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edit UnNews:UKIP targets Ebola

Promising UnNews! I am ready to lay out an Ebola side-by-side! But the first clause of the lede is not what the story is about; and please get the dateline right (town name in all capitals, and perhaps something more specific than UK, not in all caps). Spıke ¬ 11:07 11-Oct-14

Will do. I tried to combine two stories into one. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 11:09, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

That is always dicy. The way I approach that is to isolate them; do one job, with a crisp lede and clear development, then halfway through, take the reader's hand and jerk him in another direction. Separately, no matter what UnNews:Style says — and as far as I can tell, it says nothing — quotations in a story about Britain should use single quotes, unless you want to go whole-hog and use American spelling, and then there should be some comedy point to compensate for baffling your reader. Spıke ¬ 11:16 11-Oct-14

WOAH! Since when did we Brits not use "" these? It is how we write - at least now. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 11:27, October 11, 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia to the rescue: "Single quotes are more usual in the United Kingdom and South Africa, though double quotes are also common there." I fall into the latter group then as I have never been taught to write with single quotation marks and I know few people who do. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 11:30, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Romartus for one — although he has written UnNews articles with both styles mixed together. Very well; double quotes it is. Spıke ¬ 11:47 11-Oct-14

I use double quotes when it is a block of speech and single quotes when a line or a few words are referred to in a paragraph. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 09:31, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
Well that's settled then. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:48, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

edit Politics

Hi ScottPat. As you know, there is another article sitting in that space. To put your article on the feature list we need either to vote to delete what is already there or come up with a slightly different title. Ideas? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 13:12, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

It isn't quite finished yet but when it is I would like it to replace the current article of the same name. The current article isn't the best representation of the topic. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:08, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
OK, well you know what to do. Send the current article in that space to VFD when you're ready. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 09:29, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

edit Devon

A great start! Thanks for attempting a VFD Save. Spıke ¬ 11:19 22-Oct-14

No probs. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:47, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

edit Your articles

Hi Scott! You have written plenty of amazing pieces, fit for any Uncyclopedia, so I wanted to ask you: would you allow your articles to be brought to the other wiki? At the moment, only our Ukraine is there, due to some strange occurrences I detailed and apologised for last year, and it seems to be a good thing as it got on VFH without my help! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 14:15, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

This issue has troubled me when I have considered it. I am afraid I do not want the articles to be shared onto the fork (apart from the one you slipped under my nose) as one of the reasons I decided to stick with this website is that we write good quality parody articles instead of the in-jokey articles and randomness that I see appearing on the other site's front page. So I'd rather my articles were shown on the parody site they were intended for rather than being accredited with the other site. I also think that the two sites have so many different articles now that their article bases are unique. And who knows maybe someone else on the other site has better ideas for those article slots. So unless I move to the fork personally, which I don't see myself doing I don't want the articles to be shared between the two, sorry. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:15, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
I understand! Just, if Wikia will excuse me for discussing another website on a site they own, the fork and in-jokes don't have a very clear relationship, despite what it seems at first sight. Many users out there understand the problems related to in-jokes and featuring them amd are trying to do something about them. And the fork is actually producing quite a lot of good parody articles, almost as many as us, even, only they can't beat Spike (or you, when the PLS starts). Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 17:31, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
Well then you have gone a certain way to persuading me. Perhaps I should become a user on both sites and transfer all my articles across. I'm not sure. I like this place. We don't do forest fires, UnSignpost is structured well, VFP runs, we have a real dedication to clearing out old crap. I want to focus on re building this site and I think we have the right history, domain name and users to do it. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:32, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
I am not persuading you to leave! Just debating for the sake of debating (or clarifying some concepts, it's how you wish to put it). If you want to know, you have the right motivation, skills and talents to bring this site to ... what? You decide. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 19:09, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
Anton199, thank you for the high praise. On the topic subject, Wikia will certainly have no opinion, but I will. You will please not use this website to disaffect our other users into spending either part or all of their time doing the same thing elsewhere. Spıke ¬ 19:32 27-Oct-14
Anton199, I have sent you an email. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 06:38, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
I'm sure Anton had no wish to cause controversy but Spike sums the whole thing up nicely, I'd only be "doing the same thing elsewhere" which I see no point to as I prefer this website. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:03, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
And we prefer you! To the contrary, Anton199 knows he was persuading but did not know whether he would get away with it (on an evening where Denza was whitewashing our URL off the Wikipedia article, and catching hell for it). Of course if you elected to hang with a different crowd, you might encounter people who share your opinions, and you might succeed in changing another website to be what you have already helped this website to be. Or you might be quickly outvoted, or you might simply become one more proxy for Pranks Wars. I am baffled that virtually none of the PLS participants have been active since — "Waiting to see if I get featured" doesn't explain it — and am wondering whether this extravaganza was yet another gimmick to lure away promising new Uncyclopedians. Spıke ¬ 09:15 28-Oct-14

I have just looked on the Wikipedia page and see the other site's sneaky under-handed foul play. I don't think the PLS lured Uncyclopedians away from this site. However I do think that Uncyclopedians are moving from this site to theirs (usually after a month's time spent on this site). I refuse to believe that the fork is perpetuating this. I believe that is our, unwilling fault that they are moving. When choosing between a site that has 4 votes per VFH article and a regular userbase of about 5 and another site of the same name and style that has 10 votes per VFH article and a regular user base of 20ish I know why they'd prefer the other site. Somehow we've got to make them stay, I just don't know how. I am firmly convinced, however, that this site has a better commitment to the Wikipedia parody than the other site and it has the views and domain name that comes highest. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:59, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

♪♪ Competitions with cash prizes ♪♪ 10:02 28-Oct-14 I don't claim it's their official site policy, but this coincided with Denza's prank; and even Simsie is writing a little epitaph in her userspace. People do chat and act in concert. Spıke ¬ 10:09 28-Oct-14
Don't think that would be an effective incentive. I think showing we have a community spirit with lots of members who are active regularly and joke about as well as writing decent articles would be the way to attract more users. Alternatively, setting high comedy standards for the site and getting it to a level where it could "compete" with professionally written comedy sites would attract attention to the site as being reborn as a respectable, intellectual comedy site. But god knows if those ambitions are realistic and my proposals are hypocritical of the fact that I have less and less time for Uncyclopedia (unwillingly). I try to gently prod people with Uncyclopedia articles whenever they have the remotest of relevance in a conversation, in attempt to make Uncyclopedia a commonly known point of comedial reference but without doing this on en masse I doubt it will be very effective. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:11, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
In a last ditch situation we could abandon Uncyclopedia, admitting that it is beyond recovery and has had its time and that we are only prolonging its death and found a new comedy website focusing on a different genre of humour. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:13, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
Uncyclopedians have and can go their own way. The year I quit, I found one, but what he quit was the collaboration part. Instead of seeking my own playground, I'll stay on the one with the good swing set. Whenever I run out of ideas, something smelly turns up on VFD. Spıke ¬ 12:30 28-Oct-14
Agreed. Can't say I'm not happy here. I get to write comedy and chat to other aspiring comedians and that's all that's needed really. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:44, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
And, not to forget, you get to whinge about the demands of the alleged Real World on your time! Changing the subject to ICU, would you please tell me what, if anything, you see in Anon's new Evolutionary psychologists? Spıke ¬ 13:59 28-Oct-14
It seems mildly amusing to me, if touched up and expanded I'm sure it could stay. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:03, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
Then I will take it out of Intensive Care; thanks. Spıke ¬ 16:12 28-Oct-14

Sorry for not answering earlier. That's a long wall of text to read and consider. So, first of all, sorry. As Scott says I had no wish to cause controversy and in my last message "this site" actually referred to this site (Wikia uncy). I had no idea Denza did what he did on the Wikipedia page on Uncyclopedia at the same time, but I am sure this "attack" was not directed by any community.

On the topic of "another gimmick to lure away promising new Uncyclopedians": lure away where? The fork played no role in our PLS, as far as I know. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 17:50, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

edit UnSignpost

Just notifying you, as I started working on a new issue here. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 17:33, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Arghhhhh! Halloween. Sorry, I don't celebrate it. Guy Fawke's night is much more fun. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:31, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
You are such a killjoy. You should get your alligator suit on and come to the party anyway. Spıke ¬ 17:24 9-Nov-14

Maybe but celebrating the burning of Catholics and their practical extermination in this country involves fireworks. Why don't you bring a sparkler, light the effigy and join the party? Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:50, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

edit UnNews:Merkel hails the fall of the Berlin Wall

I gave this a copy-editing but I don't see the humor of the Dusseldorf/Volkswagen line or the BBC Headline joke and can't learn it from your Source. But another direction you could take it in is Gorbachev spoiling the party, and that he helped the wall to fall not so much by being Westward-looking but by being incompetent at doing what he set out to do. (I'd bring in Obama at that point, especially as Gorby mentioned Cold War, but that's just me.) Spıke ¬ 17:43 9-Nov-14

Also, Merkel's self-deprecation in the second paragraph doesn't seem like Merkel and, again, I can't tell if it was based on anything in real life. Calling Brits racist needs to have a point, or it reads like her opinion, or your opinion, or your opinion on her; advocacy either way. Your use of the word "illegally" on tanks crossing borders was also not in the service of humor. Tell me what I am missing. Spıke ¬ 18:30 9-Nov-14

You missed the joke! " Merkel heils fall of Berlin Wall" was not a spelling mistake. Please change it back (on phone). That will explain the casual racism quip. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:18, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Then the UnNews headline is deliberately wrong, and Merkel's comment has no relation to the news but is merely a complaint about the headline? The correct fix is to yank the whole joke and go in a better direction than manufactured navelism. Spıke ¬ 17:37 10-Nov-14

Merkel "hailed" the fall of Berlin Wall on front page news. They left a gap for a funny title and I took it. Disagree if you wish. The story is based on Merkel's strong determination as a political character and jokes about Germany and the Berlin Wall. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:45, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

I did not change it; "hail » heil" so "German » Nazi" followed by retaliatory racism in the article are cheap shots. But I did put it on the Front Page, though Romartus and I are in afterward with side-by-side takes on "landing on a comet." Spıke ¬ 23:41 13-Nov-14

The joke was that it was cheap racist humour. Thanks anyway. Though I think the Comet story should take priority. Truly remarkable. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 11:16, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

edit Here's a very special UnSignpost

Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 17:49, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

edit Pee Week 2014

Starts this Saturday! We need you there! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 06:55, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for signing up! Now, if you want to review something, follow the guidelines here. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 13:23, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

edit RationalWiki

I have been in a running dispute with Irritable of contents over editing Featured Articles such as this one; also for visiting non-FAs and replacing the Intro; and making other changes that plant a cryptic but unrelated theme into an article (hint always in Change Summary), often involving quotecruft. Spıke ¬ 20:44 26-Nov-14

Do you know that this article is getting famous? [1] Congratulations, Scott! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 17:49, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
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