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New stuff at the end, please; I'll make it fit into the section organization after the topic dies down.

Is this about UnNews or UnNews audio? If so, talk to me here.

I don't routinely put a Watch on other people's talk pages. Nothing personal! I endorse keeping a conversation together on a single talk page, but a few days after the conversation ends, I will Unwatch you--the alternative being endless false alarms.


Anything typed here I may post-edit clerically. Typically, I combine parts of dialogues that took place on the other guy's talk page. Some conversations that pertain to the text of an article are moved to that article's talk page.

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Old people

At the page Old_People my Google Chrome is detecting malware, coming from cdn-www.cracked.com. I am not sure if this is actual malware or my antivirus acting up again. But I think Id just say it here. Jirachi8932 17:11, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Well-spotted. This page had a citation of a photo from that website. I deleted it for several reasons:
  1. It does not work to simply give the URL of a photo elsewhere, and this photo did not render on the page.
  2. Anyone wanting to include artwork on the page should use Special:Upload and explain how Uncyclopedia comes to have the right to use it. We do assert a right under the "fair use" doctrine to use not-funny photos pertaining to news events and pervert them into humor, such as with captions.
  3. But the website in question is a comedy publication. It might be thought of as a competitor of Uncyclopedia, and we have a duty under our Terms of Use not to send our webhost's viewers away to a competing site. Moreover, an editor who saw something funny at Cracked and tried to import it into Uncyclopedia is very likely stealing humor that an artist at Cracked created for the benefit of Cracked. It is either an attempt to be funny, without being funny, or worse yet, an advertisement for Cracked. In either case, it does not belong here. If you're interested, see a related conversation I had at User talk:Simsilikesims#Microsoft Windows. Spıke ¬ 17:40 30-Sep-13

Site banner promised a Wikia site-visit report

Originally combined with the following section

Site banner should be updated. Evil week is no longer coming soon, but discussed in latest USP, and elsewhere as far as I recall.                               Puppy's talk page10:20 02 Oct 2013

Ah...my fault. I have it all ready as regards the report. I will put it up today. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 10:51, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Template:VFDn

{{VFDn}} shows talk, history, search for previous nominations (once I set that up), and can check if the article is a feature, or in the Category:In-jokes - although the last item is not a reason to sway vote as far as I'm concerned. Working on a way to do a semi-auto add of {{Oldvfd}} to talk page (still an idea in progress), but I may leave that last item to {{VFDc}}. I'm trying to set it so an edit of one letter to template closes the nomination and gives you the links most relevant to poopsmithing.

Anything else that would be suitable that you can think of? I'd like to get this as smooth for adding, voting, and closing nominations as possible, while giving the access to due diligence, so any suggestions are very welcome.                               Puppy's talk page10:20 02 Oct 2013

I take it that {{VFDn}} would be the new section head for ballots at VFD. It's helpful, though my tests have not found a page where "Search previous VFD nominations" works.
I have not stopped wanting to change other things about VFD; notably, to display the case (Delete) before the rebuttal (Keep). However, last time, Sycamore insisted that I take it to the Forum, where the result was ridicule that the change was too trivial and I was wasting everyone's time: "It is so trivial that you must not do it." So this would require a return trip to the Forum, which would bog down your changes.
Also, it would be painless to have a background of pastel green for the Keep votes and pastel red for the Deletes, and I have become enamored of rounded corners, just because they are smooth and we never used to be able to code it. Spıke ¬ 11:38 2-Oct-13
Never been able to get rounded corners to work smoothly cross browser. The backgrounds and the reversal of order is fairly straight forward, but it means creating a fresh template for votes, which I'll play with over the course if the next few days. My intention is to get it as complete as possible, so we don't need to do too many tweaks.                               Puppy's talk page12:09 02 Oct 2013
On reversal-of-order, again: Please don't. It might bog your uncontroversial work down in the revival of old controversy. Spıke ¬ 12:16 2-Oct-13
It's a valid point. We'll see how it goes.                               Puppy's talk page12:23 02 Oct 2013

Hey. I don't have access to the deletion page, so could you just confirm that the delete link here autopopulates the deletion reason? (There is another way to do this so it uses the drop down box, but I can't remember for the life of me what it is.) If you want to adjust the phrasing of the deletion reason then feel free, but it may need a little url encoding if you do.                               Puppy's talk page11:51 07 Oct 2013

It does indeed. However, instead of what I do--putting the link to VFD in the "Reason for deletion" field via pulldown menu, which leaves the "Other/additional reason" field free for possible comment, it puts the link in the latter field. That's good enough, as I am free to append comments to it. Spıke ¬ 12:01 7-Oct-13

US Government shuts down

I'd have thought that this would make a good UnNews story. The whole things caused quite a stir over here. I don't really know enough information about how the US Government runs to write a decent UnNews on it but I just thought that as you are the king of UnNews writing and you know a fair bit about US Politics that you might want a crack at it. Seems stupid how not acheiving a budget statement causes so much distress. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:28, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but I wrote UnNewses about the previous round of brinksmanship/fingerpointing/Kabuki-dances. The bottom line is that nothing important will fail to occur, but Obama will tough it out and wait for Republican after Republican to claim, increasingly publicly, that "we can't win." In my state, we are grooming the next generation of Conciliation Monkeys even now.
As far as UnNews goes, the story on the top of the stack provides a novel take on the shutdown, and I did a narration of it. Spıke ¬ 17:36 2-Oct-13
Oh one has already been written...whoops. Didn't see it. Thanks.
Our intake in my corner of the island is also "blame the republicans." The main reason being that Obama is one of the most liberal Presidents seen in a while so us Brits take a liking to him. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:43, October 2, 2013 (UTC)
ScottPat, perhaps what you want is at UnNews:US government shuts down with unprecedented triteness (Gnome-speakernotes listen). Spıke ¬ 20:58 3-Oct-13

Forum:A reskin for the US government shutdown

Could I bring you to the attention of this forum. What do you think of the idea? Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:52, October 5, 2013 (UTC)


I think that there has been some mis-communication with Sansee. Instead of a spoof Government shut down message, I know see the original content warning back to haunt us. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:35, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, we did mis-communicate, as I thought she would install the file I specified. I'm glad someone is reporting something! I have found Puppy's instructions following the last round of Content Warning debate and followed them to copypaste MainPageTemp and delete the Content Warning Footer. The haunted-house background should already be disabled. Please tell me how it looks. Spıke ¬ 20:46 8-Oct-13
I think I need to log off to view. Be back in a sec! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:53, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
Please comment at the relevant Forum so more people will see it. Spıke ¬ 20:53 8-Oct-13
I'm afraid I cannot see it and yet you can. This is probably because it has a timer or something and I haven't waited enough before logging on to see a warning. I'll have to wait till tomoroow to see full effect therefore. Thanks for everything, this can go down in history now! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:15, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
If you delete your Uncyclopedia cookie, you'll probably see it immediately. Spıke ¬ 21:26 8-Oct-13
I don't know how to I'm afraid. I'll leave it till tomorrow. Thanks Spike, it was good of you to make the spoof main page. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:46, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
It is tomorrow now, for me and I was met by neither a content warning nor a spoof government message. Strange. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 05:15, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
Delete the cookie. Like the Content Warning, any Uncyclopedia user will only see our little gag once, and will not even see it once if they ever saw the actual Content Warning. On Firefox, under Tools/Options/Privacy, click "Show Cookies." 10:26 9-Oct-13
Also, note the almost complete lack of vandalism and bad edits overnight. All the unfunny Anons of the world have bought it, hook, line, and sinker, the level of credulity Wikia cited when they slapped the original Content Warning on (initially because someone might mistake our writing for truth and it would be Wikia's fault). Leave it on for good??? Spıke ¬ 10:39 9-Oct-13
Yessir! I am not using firefox but Internet Explorer. I do have firefox so perhaps I should switch to that. I used to see Content Warning all the time when that was around but this spoof page still alludes me. Thanks for UnSignpost article! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 15:54, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
The control for cookies is somewhere comparable in IE. PS--eludes. Spıke ¬ 16:05 9-Oct-13
Went on firefox and saw it. Wonderful, absolutely wonderful! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:50, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Meet the new Newman66 in the future!

In the future, I will make new articles, which are funny ones ranging from science stuff to video game articles. I may also request or make bots for Wikia and Uncyclopedia. Make sure to stay tuned, and don't forget that I'm better than ever! Newman66 Visit my table here! Contributions My works 01:05, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Denza for Admin?

(Original title: "A query of complete neutrality that will not have any relation to events in the VFS") Alright, were I to get nominated by, whoever, would you, or some other sysop/admin remove it, or let it stand as a fair nomination? --The Sieger of Dungeons Lord Denza Aetherwing Inventory 17:06, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

And were I to somehow get opped, would I be able to keep it? --The Sieger of Dungeons Lord Denza Aetherwing Inventory 17:06, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
Denza, if you want to be an admin, just say so. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 17:15, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Autopatrolled for Saddex

He needs it, as he has done a lot of good edits since his first time here. I really believe this would help out. Newman66 Visit my table here! Contributions My works 23:11, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Newman's block

Wow! For what did you block him? For suggesting me and ScottPat as candidates for admins to Chief Justice? But that was his opinion and it was perfectly legitimate, even though he did not know how to express it (forum/VFS). Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 06:09, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

I have unblocked Newman for now but I will put him on official parole. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 07:19, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your concern, Anton. But my decision does not require your review, as the Summary indicates I would immediately ask another Admin to review it. (In fact, I asked two.) And, as before, I do not need to explain it to you, as I have explained it directly to him.
It seems as though he went on the wire last night and tried to focus attention on innocent individual actions. No, it is not a problem to express an opinion to the Chief Justice; it is not a problem not to know about the VFS procedure (though Denza makes clear, above, that he did Newman the favor of advocating for a new VFS vote because Denza wants oppage himself); it is not a problem to press the Save button. It is a problem when a new user, with a pattern of raping slightly new users, holds himself out to yet another relatively new user as a person through whom favors can be obtained from an Admin — even favors that the user didn't ask for and wouldn't notice the granting of. If you have heard these complaints and are interceding personally to get credit for obtaining justice, you are doing the same thing. Spıke ¬ 17:41 8-Oct-13
Let not assume the worst from Anton. I agree that this block was a good call...but Anton has every right to ask you about a block and he shouldnt be considered opportunistic for doing so. What paranoia. Remember how Aleister, Lyrithya and I questioned your excessively long block by Zombie before you became admin? It wasnt about getting credit for anything but caring about the best interests of the site and users. --ShabiDOO 18:07, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
Spike, you have told me several times that I maybe considered this site as an opportunity to create or break alliances. And I have told you that I did not. I have no allies here, only friends, if people want to be friends with me. And you are wrong, if you think that I want to promote myself, when I ask for justice (not ChiefJustice, but the abstract meaning of the word), it is only because I want justice, and not because I want credit.
Separately, thank you for responding to me and clarifying the matter even more, once again! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 20:32, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
P.S. Shabidoo, thanks for your post and Spike, I am not saying that your actions are wrong or not legitimate; I just want to make sure nobody gets banned for too long, if he does not deserve it.

Hey! I may seem like I want oppage, but I don't really want it. Don't put words in my mouth without backing. I may have said GIVE ME ADIM PLZ I R XEXZY!!11!, but that is obviously a joke. --The Sieger of Dungeons Lord Denza Aetherwing Inventory 22:24, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

UN:CHAT

Add another # infront of #uncyclopedia and the links, and we have our own chatroom, separate from #uncyclopedia. irc://irc.freenode.net##uncyclopedia. Its the future of... the past... --The Sieger of Dungeons Lord Denza Aetherwing Inventory 17:21, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Don't people have to register their names..?--LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:04, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
Not really, unless I go insane and set mode +r. Btw, don't try to register it, its already registered to me. :D --The Sieger of Dungeons Lord Denza Aetherwing Inventory 14:46, October 9, 2013 (UTC) (+F flag bitchez; adminses will still get OPs tho.)
So, to summarise, you've created a chat room that nobody here asked for, without looking to get community consent, and given yourself higher authorisation access without any voting to grant that authority, and are now claiming ownership of it, and setting your own rules in regards to how it all works. Which begs the question - in what way is this going to increase the quality or quantity of our content here, or support the community as a whole?                               Puppy's talk page07:26 09 Oct 2013
Yes, I think that is a fair summary. Not for nothing do we call him Captain Self-promotion. At least it doesn't include Pay-to-Play. Spıke ¬ 19:39 9-Oct-13
If the real IRC channel does not belong to us but to the fork, then we need another one. Denza's idea is cool, but I agree that one person cannot control the whole system. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 12:57, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, I won't hold the power once people are here. I was going to actually hold a forum to create #uncyc-wikia as a channel, but due to the actions by members of the fork, I decided to make one with haste, as they would have tried to sabotage it if they got wind of it. I will retain the +F flag, but I am allirght with deopping myself, and giving the actual adminses power. Also, I think that active rollbackers should be given Voice flags (+Vv) to denote them as people to deal with minor bouts of vandalism or such. I'm sorry I didn't hold a discussion beforehand, and if I must, I can take down the channel, it was just that I can't trust the fork anymore. On another note, I plan to make a recent-changes bot, akin to Uncyc-rc in #uncyclopedia-rc-en, but for the wikia site, if we decide to keep our channel. --The Sieger of Dungeons Lord Denza Aetherwing Inventory 16:55, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

UnNews:Merkel promises Germany a New Dull

Thanks for the audio SPIKE on that one. I am trying to keep news articles brief and breezy, something Leverage suggested awhile back. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:05, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Brief-and-breezy delays the date on which I will need to drive to Walmart for a new Internet refill card! (Not so much to read text but to upload audio.) For my part, I think UnNewses can go into detail, if it remains funny and if they hint at what they're ridiculing rather than force the reader to read the Source. 12:10 9-Oct-13
PS--I omitted the Rip Van Winkle ending from the audio, him being Dutch not German, and the legend being American, I think. You might reconsider it in the text, as I think the preceding text is a better final zinger. Spıke ¬ 12:37 9-Oct-13

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty

Did you even read the article? The whole thing (as well as all the other MGS articles) are self-referencing UnScripts. I'd just made that edit because I was dissatisfied with the original version's conclusion. You can bring the matter up with Guildy if you like, but for God's sake don't revert because you assumed bad faith. Lord Scofield Stark 09:47, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

Your point is well-taken. So is mine: When someone makes a massive edit to a Feature Article (likewise yesterday's vanity edit of Justin Bieber), I do not have the time to track down the author and ask him if he is happy with the change. You are probably in closer contact with Guildy than I am. If he comes here and okays it, it can stand. Telling me that I "assumed bad faith" is manipulative. What I assumed is that for Uncyclopedia articles to talk about the writing of Uncyclopedia articles is bad writing, though there may also be plenty of it elsewhere in the series. Spıke ¬ 10:17 11-Oct-13

VFD nom

Thanks for that. I actually added it twice, but my cellular network has been crapping out all day. Got there finally though.                               Puppy's talk page07:41 14 Oct 2013

Kiwi Slayer

WHY DOES UNCYCLOPEDIA EXIST? ALSO, I BLANKED OUT THAT WEIRD PAGE ON NEW ZEALAND AGAIN(NOT) The preceding unsigned comment was added by 122.57.106.136 (talk • contribs)

The above IP was blocked for his behavior in messing with Captain gull's userpage, plus blanking out part of this article. -- Simsilikesims(♀UN) Talk here. 04:18, October 16, 2013 (UTC)

Excuse me!

Will you please stop edit conflicting me while I'm busy edit conflicting you!                               Puppy's talk page12:56 16 Oct 2013

And will you please not post to me while I am replying to you! I put back your correction of that little pederasty Freudian slip, didn't I??? Spıke ¬ 13:04 16-Oct-13
Not my fault. It's all the fault of the iProd.                               Puppy's talk page01:07 16 Oct 2013

Poopsmithing QVFD

I've already asked this on Uncyclopedia talk:Poopsmith's Lounge but since I got no answer I assumed you didn't see it so I'm asking you my question again here. Should I archive QVFD (after all the articles there have been patrolled by an administrator of course) or is it not my responsibility to do so? --Mimo&Maxus (Talk) 15:47, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

As the attending Admin is supposed to use {{BPC}} to note that he took care of the little bastards, Admins tend to poopsmith it themselves. The Chief Justice complained recently that I was neglecting this, but sometimes I like to leave it long so there is an example of the right way to nominate a {{Redirect}} because no one reads the instructions. If you would like to clean it up from time to time, that wouldn't be a problem.
Did you see my new material at VFDA (new shortcut!) regarding creating new VFD archive files? You might wait on this because next week Puppy's new VFD system will be voted on, and it might be nice if the start of a new archive is at the start of the new VFD system. Spıke ¬ 15:54 17-Oct-13

I did actually and found it very helpful. You might want to add info about poopsmithing QVFD, like the things you just told me, to avoid similar confusion for future poopsmiths.

P.S. It's alright. I wasn't in a hurry to create a new VFD archive anyway! (Like anyone's ever been in that kind of hurry)
P.S. (2) In a few more hours, I will finally be able to move my first article from VFD to archive 276! Yay! --Mimo&Maxus (Talk) 16:17, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, positive byte count equals negative byte count...diffs look correct...By George, I think he's got it! Spıke ¬ 19:27 17-Oct-13

OR I removed parts from VFD to make it look like I tried to archive a closed nomination and then added random, meaningless text to the VFD archive to make it look like the archiving procedure was succesfully over. Of course, all that would be just an attempt on making you notice me, your long-lost son, who, in order to gain his father's love again, will change his way of life as a vandal and will, eventually, find his inner Uncyclopedian. It's either that or what you said. --Mimo&Maxus (Talk) 20:29, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

No, like I said, I looked at the diffs too. "Trust but verify." (Reagan) Spıke ¬ 20:35 17-Oct-13

Banning Denza

I dunno man, I think you were kinda harsh on him. Even if he didn't revert your move by mistake, which would be higly unlikely given that he's pretty much an established user by now (or is he), I believe it's the first time he's done it, isn't it? Maybe give him a serious warning or a 3-4 days ban, if it's that much of a problem, but I think two weeks, is a little over the top? Then again, you are the admin and you probably have a better judgement. I'm just suggesting you might want to re-consider the lengh of his ban. Peace --Mimo&Maxus (Talk) 16:28, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

I always enjoy explaining penalties on users to other users, even in the unlikely case that it was not a result of the banned user committing ban evasion by lobbying on other web sites. Denza's Forum:A Forum for the presentation and debate of new ideas‎ did not present nor debate any new idea, though it raised the possibility that he would make new initiatives like his personal IRC channel in our name or his recent campaign to hold a new Admin vote (for him). It instructed other Uncyclopedians on how to contribute. In other words, it was a Forum set up for no purpose other than for Denza to have something to run; in still other words, it was vanity. (It followed a re-creation of a deleted article in mainspace which, likewise, had utterly no content and had to be deleted.) Rather than immediately delete the Forum, I remembered Simsilikesims's solution the last time we had a vanity Forum: Move it to BHOP, which is the location for Forums that do not pertain to the business of the website (which, remember, is comedy).
When he undid this move, I deleted the forum and banned him. The duration of the ban was the next notch up from the effective duration of his previous ban, in the menu of intervals presented to me on the Ban menu. It occurs to me that selecting 1 year would have resulted in exactly the same immediate reaction, and more time before he returns and resumes acting out and begging everyone to drop everything and look at him. But in that case, Simsie would have had to listen to yet more of Denza's life story. Spıke ¬ 17:39 17-Oct-13
Denza wants to run something and at the same time he wants to help the community. Now, instead of criticising him, why don't we allow him to actually run a project? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 20:38, October 17, 2013 (UTC)
UN:WYCD. Plenty to do, and it's a way to create respect that he's after before trying to create something new in order to control it. There's also the option of working on USP. He's been presented with these options, and asked to focus on this.                               Puppy's talk page09:06 17 Oct 2013
We have so little precious free time on our hands I don't want to waste it reading pointless forums and long paragraphs about how Denza is the dude. He's not ready to run anything. There's lots of admin, categorizing, proof reading, tagging, patrolling, updating featured article lists, chopping images, pee reviews etc. to do. --ShabiDOO 01:06, October 18, 2013 (UTC)
In fact, he did run something; he cajoled us into giving him rollback, spent several weeks doing good patrol work, then — in my opinion, right after asking me for an honest evaluation and me giving it, which fell short of a permanent declaration that he was the dude — the Usefulness Offensive ended and he went back to being an ornery kid writing about being an ornery kid. Spıke ¬ 01:22 18-Oct-13
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