User talk:SPIKE

Latest revision as of 18:55, May 25, 2013

New stuff at the end, please; I'll make it fit into the section organization after the topic dies down.

Is this about UnNews or UnNews audio? If so, talk to me here.

I don't routinely put a Watch on other people's talk pages. Nothing personal! I endorse keeping a conversation together on a single talk page, but a few days after the conversation ends, I will Unwatch you--the alternative being endless false alarms.

Anything typed here I may post-edit clerically. Typically, I combine parts of dialogues that took place on the other guy's talk page. Some conversations that pertain to the text of an article are moved to that article's talk page.

edit Archives

Ceremonial greetings and cookies received in '09 from Thekillerfroggy, MrN9000, Romartus, Pelargonium, and Hyperbole.
Forum threads I created in '09-'10 on multiple articles on the same theme, my proposal for the style guide on encyclopedia clichés, articles written from an uncyclopedic point of view, background-image in CSS, and suggested changes to {{Q}}.
My entries in the 8th Poo Lit Surprise: Clip-on tie, Rules of baseball (a winner), and FORTRAN.
Pee reviews I did in '09-'10: ITSCON, MGMT, Third-wave feminism, Hyphenation, Hard disk drive, Ozzy Osborne.
Technical issues in '09-'10: Changing my user name; specifying a custom signature in a file; specifying a background color for data-entry windows; putting in for Redirect rights.
Conversations in '10 that are done.
Conversations in '10 about the Islam article.
Conversations in '11.
Discussions of civics and politics in '12.
Discussions with user Kamek98.
Other conversations in '12.
Conversations in '13 before Oppage. After oppage: 2 3
RFCs received in 2013 of no enduring interest except to those studying the requestors.

edit Meganew polices Aimsplode's personal pages

Wanna do something about this?

Meganew shouldn't be reverting peoples' edits to their own user pages. I think a ban is in order. --anonymous —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.198.163.168 (talk • contribs)

(For "edits" above, read "blanking.") Check the ban log, Aimsplode; I gave him a full two hours. Then check his user page, where I expressed regret about having to decide in favor of either of you. Spıke ¬ 10:08 16-May-13

edit Joke comment on User talk:Llwy-ar-lawr

SPIKE, I thought we were on good terms now. If I make a joke comment and you realise that, can you repond with a joke instead of a serious comment please? (Refering to Llwy's talk page). Thanks. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 13:28, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. If you will stop interpreting my retaliatory poke as a "serious comment" and stop obsessing about whether it indicates a sea change in my opinion of you. Spıke ¬ 13:36 16-May-13

Make it a good joke and maybe I'll get it. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 13:38, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

edit ScottPat's Forum

Just to let you know Spike that the reason I set up the forum was to find out whether there were any other active users on at the time of the attack when I first got on. Thanks for deleting it. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 06:00, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. If you see from the variety of names used in his automated change summaries by now, it is not a personal vendetta but a quest for attention from anyone. That forum would have been his ultimate reward. We changed the parameters to make the attack less notorious; also got help from Wikia. Spıke ¬ 11:00 17-May-13

I never thought of it as a personal vendetta. He/she changed who he attacked simply on the basis of which person last edited pages on the website. I was talking to Romartus about getting Wikia to do something about it so thanks.

Thanks to everyone who reverted during that night (well night for me anyway). It was a real team effort and when the Americans and Aussies were going to bed the Brits had just woke up to continue the reverts. I still think there is more to be reverted though. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 11:10, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

I put in a new rule that Anon gets only two edits per minute and the vandal seemed to lose interest. Later on Wikia came in and put in another rule trying to pattern-match the exact edits, but the guy will quickly see what's being filtered and adapt. Spıke ¬ 11:13 17-May-13

On further repair, view Special:RecentChanges and click "Hide patrolled edits". Spıke ¬ 11:14 17-May-13

Scott, at your current privileges, do you see when reviewing single edits, "Newer edit -> [Mark edit as patrolled]"? If so, then when undoing vandalism, you must walk back to the start of the vandalism and mark each edit. Otherwise the page will come back up in the report as needing patrolling, once we work through the (as of last night) at least 1800 edits. Although you corrected the page, someone will have to look inside to verify that this is the case; that is the most time-consuming thing about this repair. Spıke ¬ 11:13 17-May-13

Yes I do see mark as patrol however only on IP edits not on user ones and also if I revert something I can't mark it as patrol after only before. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 11:15, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Edits from users with Autopatrolled do not require patrolling; so your observation on "user ones" applies only to trusted users. Revert (versus Undo) automatically patrols the reverted edit, but doesn't let you provide explanation. Undo should be used to explain to user names and then you must manually patrol the undone edit. Each Admin here has been scolded on occasional lapses. Correcting the page is only half the job; you must record that you did, by clearing the patrol flag, so that others aren't led there only to verify that you already fixed it.

There is a JavaScript thingie on RecentChanges that patrols all edits. The problem is that the current list of vandal edits extends past the end of a RecentChanges listing. Spıke ¬ 11:23 17-May-13

I know that was quite annoying. Talking of vandals we seem to have one who is subtly writing absolute nonsence on IP pages and even made an article that Snippy put on QVFD. He/she writes half of the article in German. He/she seems to use multiple IP addresses. You can see his/her edits on Recent Changes as his summaries are random numbers and letters. Thought I'd let you know. Thanks. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 11:28, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

I'm still working through correspondence, but I'll review this now. Spıke ¬ 11:32 17-May-13

PS--http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidepatrolled=1&limit=2500 may be amusing if you have a faster connection than I do. Spıke ¬ 11:40 17-May-13

edit Terms-of-Use ban of Multiliteralist

PS--Undo me at Forum:I'm leaving, and it's your fault‎ at your discretion. The author has been banned for putting his recommendation into practice last night. Spıke ¬ 11:32 17-May-13

Don't understand what you mean by the last PS bit. Undo what part??? Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 11:35, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

If you wish to answer his rant rather than just excise it as I did, feel free. Spıke ¬ 11:40 17-May-13

So you want me to answer a guy's rant because you don't want to do it yourself. (I'm sure that's not what you mean it's just I find it hard to understand why you want me to undo your undo). What's more is that you are encouraging me to respond to a vandal which you always warn me not to. Is this a joke in which you anticipate that I might want to reply to him? Confused still. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 11:45, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

PS Thanks for the 2500 one. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 11:45, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

This is not a joke. I would like a second pair of eyes on it (though Romartus has already seen and endorsed my one-month ban). I don't necessarily want you to answer his rant; I would like your opinion on whether my solution is the best. Spıke ¬ 11:48 17-May-13

Oh sorry, simpleton over here understands now. My misunderstanding. I will take a good look and post my opinion to you on this page in a few minutes. Thanks. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 12:24, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

I like to think of myself as quite a just man and I hate to say it but I'm probably biased here but I'll try not to be.

Firstly saying that they are not cherry-picking editors is wrong. One of the editors from the other site tried to make me come to their site on another forum (can't remember what the forum was called but it was about everyone giving reasons to stay on Wikia) by claiming that you had brainwashed me even though I stated reasons as to why I was staying.
People on his site may go over there "without help" however the good writers' talents are wasted on that site's type of comedy. Instead of writing articles that have clever comedy in that you feel really pleased about writing at the end because it took a lot of work and now that has been payed off, they write a swear word and put in a picture of something sex related and call it funny. There minds are not allowed to mature.
Multiliteralist himself seems a decent writer (by looking on the other site (t.here are some decent writers on that site)) but on his talk page he claims that the point of Uncyclopedia (non-Wikia) is not to parody wikipedia as that aim was achieved a few years ago. As far as I was aware Uncyclopedia is meant to be a parody of wikipedia and if it is not then I wouldn't have joined and I don't see what other point it can have.
Romartus I don't think is biased here as he is not on that site at all so he seems to be in the same position as you and I. He has judged very fairly before although my encounters with him have been short and occasional. I think he thinks that you just went too far with deleting the comment.

To conclude (please do read the bits above, they are important): I think that a response to him would be justified. Perhaps a clever and well thought-out one. Maybe subtly asking him what the purpose of uncyclopedia really is. By deleting his comment you are just showing more tension.

I think Aleister is right that we need to draw the sites together. It reminds me of the Cold War which many people have said. The opposing idealogies are clever humour vs. cheap humour. Apart from that the sites should have the same aims and purpose. Both sides claim that the other site brainwashes their users and so on. By replying to their messages maybe we can start detente.

Please read and think about what I have said Spike. Thanks. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 12:43, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

PS - I think that when you reverted him you should have put a comment in the summary and that is why Romartus has asked you to revert the revert.Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 12:43, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Do you agree with the above. Should we reply to him? Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 13:17, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

I have restored his comment and have replied. Thanks for your input. Spıke ¬ 13:26 17-May-13

No problem any time you need help. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 13:33, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Nice reply. I'll support you if there is any opposition to you replying. What I really want to know is what he thinks the purpose of Uncyclopedia is if it is not to parody wikipedia. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 13:37, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

As an aside, if you were the victim of my brainwashing, one would think I would have done a complete enough job that you would not conclude so often that I must hate you.

Parodying Wikipedia is not our "purpose"--which indeed could have been done with a couple dozen articles--but our motif, a default style in which to write new articles. Thus the job is not done as long as life continues to unfold. This is indeed not a site for unbounded fiction writing or even unbounded comedy writing, but primarily for pages that support the gag that we are a legitimate encyclopedia, a legitimate dictionary, or a legitimate news service. ML has always chafed under this structure and has authored Forums asking for new namespaces that would accommodate his notions, from ranty expressions of personal opinion to descriptions of bowel movements. He is in the right place now; if he would only stop returning to, yes, sabotage this one. Spıke ¬ 13:43 17-May-13

I think we were right about the brainwashing and ML has been tricked himself: [Quotation deleted] Also brainwashing is fine by me as long as it is done in the right way.

By the way Spike, Al and I were wondering what your views are on the content warning and your reason behind those views. Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 14:16, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Brainwashing implies dishonesty, or at least manipulation. (For example, throwing a long quote from Multiliteralist, at his sardonic best, in my face, to try to bias me against him, apart from his conduct? I already have a firm opinion of him, thank you.) The best example was MrN9000's visit to your talk page (for which he received my first Terms-of-Use ban), agreeing with you that the style of humor at the Fork was unacceptably childish, but promising that it would improve, through application of an unspecified process. I do not agree with brainwashing.

Regarding the Content Warning, are you kidding? I have stated my opinion repeatedly in the Forum and on Aleister's talk page. Spıke ¬ 17:17 17-May-13

The quote was a joke Spike. I was being sarcastic. I do believe in brainwahing, it's called education but then I believe in a strong state (American Nightmare!!!!).

The last bit was to confirm that you were against the content warning changing as you think that it is simply another episode that will go nowhere. (Am I correct?). Sir ScottPat CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 17:24, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

edit Managing UnNews

Do we mean to mislead users in this section UnNews:Newsroom#Managing UnNews? Should I replace the links to reflect the Lead Article 2 template? Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 02:04, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

The Newsroom is not a reference manual but essentially a big talk page. Don't change the record of what was discussed; at the time, those files were how to lay out the Front Page. The current method should be described somewhere, but not in the Newsroom. Right now, the wagon train of UnNews Chiefs just read the documentation in the templates themselves. Spıke ¬ 02:13 20-May-13

You got it, chief.

Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 02:34, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

edit User:Trollman2000

Hi SPIKE, please block the above user. Thanks a lot. :) Graphium (✉ • ✎) 00:56, 24 May 2013

Sometimes a user's choice of username saves us from having to guess! However, in the case of this guy, I show no activity at all. What is the problem, please? Spıke ¬ 01:03 24-May-13

PS--I was willing for a while to believe that he was making edits faster than I could follow from my slow connection out in the woods. But still nothing. I ought not ban him simply based on the choice of names. Most registered users never make a single contribution (such as, alas, lowercase Spike, who registered in 2006). By the way, rather than contact your favorite Admin (for which I thank you), the best way to make these requests is at Ban Patrol, where whoever is on duty (and at the moment we do not have schedules) will satisfy it. Spıke ¬ 01:18 24-May-13

edit Anon protests something

SPIKE. Quite clearly a 40 year old virgin that lives in his Mum's basement and thinks he's the greatest wit since Monty Python's Life of Brian. Your not. By locking out a page and/or deleting it because you can't handle the challenge to your ego then I would suggest that this is not what Uncyclopedia is about. I suggest that you take your head out of your fat arse ( I bet you don't weigh less than 20 stone!!!) and fuck off to a place where you might be appreciated, Iran, North Korea, the Planet Zog, et al........... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.153.69.78 (talk • contribs)

As you sought the safety of an IP and did not explain what page has been locked and/or deleted, it is hard to explain why the action was taken, not that I'm inspired to do so. As you have seen fit to give me some armchair psychology, I will return the favor. "Your" too stupid to figure out "your" supposed to post to the bottom of talk pages; "your" convinced that "your" entitled to create anything you want and "your" under no obligation to make it fit into the goals of Uncyclopedia, and "your" supremely unpersuasive. It is not hard to imagine that you wrote some dreck that I (or someone else) saw fit to delete, and I am confident we will again if you write another. Because I am guessing "your" a very slow learner. Spıke ¬ 22:23 24-May-13

edit Gay Darkness

Hi, can you add my new article in this template? Thank you. --The Phantom of Gay Darkness (talk) 16:21, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

No, and in fact, I will not let it remain on the site, because it fails our notability policy. We are not for descriptions of fondling games that your high-school pals play, not even if it is good enough for our Italian analog. Spıke ¬ 16:48 25-May-13

Are we meant to add new articles to this template as I haven't heard of it before and therefore haven't added any of my articles. Sir ScottPat

CUN VFH UnS NotM(talk) 18:34, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

There are no rules cast in stone for shameless self-promotion, but {{Recent}} (restricted to registered users) is a damned fine way to do it. You may post mine as well as your own, if you edit it. I took mine straight to VFH--where your comment (Make it longer) is a valid suggestion that I will try to act on later today. Spıke ¬ 18:55 25-May-13

At Nonciclopedia we also think that the page is shit. --87.16.185.124 18:47, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the input--In our Uploads Log, the author cited Nonciclopedia, probably to prove that the photos were not merely amateur photos of homosexual play (which they seem to be anyway). Separately, yesterday a contributor from Bulgaria insisted that his article about either a minor town official or his neighbor were not cyberbullying: The article's subject had been in a YouTube video! Spıke ¬ 18:55 25-May-13

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 *[[User:SPIKE/2011|Conversations in '11]].
 *[[User:SPIKE/Civics-12|Discussions of civics and politics in '12]].
-*[[User:SPIKE/2012Kamek98|Discussions with]] {{U|Kamek98}}.
+*[[User:SPIKE/2012Kamek98|Discussions with user Kamek98]].
 *[[User:SPIKE/2012|Other conversations in '12]].
+*Conversations in '13 [[User:SPIKE/2013-1|before Oppage]].  After oppage: [[User:SPIKE/2013-2|2]] [[User:SPIKE/2013-3|3]]
+*[[User:SPIKE/2013-RFC|RFCs received in 2013]] of no enduring interest except to those studying the requestors.
-==[[User:Kamek98/Lu Bu]]==
+==Meganew polices Aimsplode's personal pages==
-Is there a way to move [[Lu Bu]] to my userspace so I can make an article?--{{User:Kamek98/sig2}} 23:45, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
+[http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=User%3AAimsplode&diff=5681823&oldid=5669920 Wanna do something about this?]
-:Done. There were several references to it, which were double-redirects and now are broken.  You have the power to return it to mainspace when ready. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:50 4-Jan-13</small>
-:Jeezus, Eric, then you continue editing, re-creating it in mainspace!  What is the point of asking me?  You are on your own. Take one of the two pages to QVFD. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:59 4-Jan-13</small>
-I wasn't expecting you to move it that quickly actually, haha. My bad, dude.--{{User:Kamek98/sig2}} 00:01, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
-== Should I stay or continue on the new site? ==
+Meganew shouldn't be reverting peoples' edits to their own user pages. I think a ban is in order. --anonymous {{Unsigned|88.198.163.168}}
-I don't know which, maybe you can help me decide?--{{User:Kamek98/sig2}} 00:33, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
-:Why would I help you decide?  I view you as a budding politician rather than a technician--down to nominating me for numerous annual honors and immediately capering over to my talk page to try to extract maximum political benefit for your actions--and I believe that the more mature writers and admins--who don't view interaction with a corporation as ingestion of poison--are staying here.  I encourage you to migrate to the "new" site and see how sucking up to the autocrats works for you. I think the first time the "new" site goes down for a week, and you get nothing but ridicule followed by a ban for "disruptive comments," you will become a somewhat wiser suck-up. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:41 5-Jan-13</small>
-::I have never loathed you more than I do right now. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>02:37, Jan. 5, 2013</small>
-:::If SPIKE doesn't want to migrate to "Boobiepedia", let him stay here. The new site might go down, hopefully not for a week, but it might just take off and become successful too. It is his choice after all, and his grouchiness (see above) and sarcastic humor might not be welcomed on the new site anyways. I plan to edit on both sites, in case this site starts censoring anything remotely offensive I'll go over there, and if that site goes down, I'll spend some time editing over here. It's not like I write major articles, unlike some. {{User:Simsilikesims/sig}} 04:11, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
-==Spike!!==
+:(For "edits" above, read "blanking.")  Check the ban log, Aimsplode; I gave him a full two hours.  Then check his user page, where I expressed regret about having to decide in favor of either of you. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>10:08 16-May-13</small>
-You can get you name in lower case at the new site. I think you just sign up for an account, and then have someone transfer everything to the new account. I also intend to go between both of them, and maybe over there the drama could have a new start. Me and TFK are best of buds on the new site, he is the light of my life. You too, come by and we all can hang out there too. Pretty good energy there - but no search engine will reach it for quite awhile. [[user:Aleister|'''Al''']] 23:23 Uncy's 8th Birthday
-:Who needs search engines when we have ''each other??!!!??!'' :) :) --{{User:Thekillerfroggy/sig}} 23:25, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
-::True, so true. Spike may be up for a three-way, or more. I'm busy that day, but Socky, who doesn't want to put the boobs back on his user page, may be up for it. He's now gay, and that apparantly happened right at the transfer, like someone beaming up on Star Trek and getting his preferences scrambled in the transporter. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] minutes later
-:::But there is an (inactive) account here as Spike (as well as SPIKE's first account, which I remembered welcoming and then getting thoroughly confused). If all the accounts have been ported over, the [[User:Spike]] should be there too.
-:::And you're being naughty. How dare you criticise the new site! It's not as though people who were voted in as caretakers have now claimed ownership of a site that was never theirs to begin with! And given they are administrators on both sites whatever you do on the new site - or say about it here - is definitely not grounds for a ban. It had to do with your arrogance. I don't know where you get such behaviour - do you see any of the admins here being arrogant at all? {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:53 06 Jan}}
-::::Ok I'd just like to clear up the misinformation here in case SPIKE is actually interested in getting his username changed on the new site. 1) All of the account information is there (edits, password, etc) but the account doesn't "exist" until that user logs in for the first time, so PotR's concerns about those other accounts are unfounded 2) DO NOT DO WHAT ALIESTER SAID, just sign in with your main account and request that somebody do a name change. Creating an account with the username you want will only make life harder for the person changing your username. Ok now that that's cleared up, carry on. -- {{User:Zombiebaron/sig}} 02:55, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
-:::What are you on about, Aleister? O_o {{User:Sockpuppet of an unregistered user/sig4}}<small>''03:02, 6 January 2013''</small>
-::::Oh. Zombiebaron is correct. Until someone logged in as “Spike” or created that user account, that account was only there ''in potentia''. As soon as someone goes over and creates and account using a user name from here - such as Chronarion, Stillwaters, Hardwick Fundlebuggy, etc., then they become that identity over there.
-::::My apologies. Going back to previous statement, the account “Spike” '''now''' exists over there. Glad to see that the attribution there can't be manipulated at all. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|03:14 06 Jan}}
-:::::I believe the reason you were allowed to create User:Spike was because it has no contributions. I just tried to create an account called Zombieminion and it told me it was in use. Also, thanks for mucking up SPIKE's name change on the new site. -- {{User:Zombiebaron/sig}} 03:21, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
-::::::Just testing the capacity of the security. It appears that you're correct. I'm curious to see if any of my socks are still barred on the new site. Including those that had no contributions, but allowed me to send emails to other users. As for the name change - as soon as SPIKE asks for the password the account is his. (For obvious reasons I'm not going to publish it here.) It won't be the first time we've had a name change via account creation. If you want me to teach you how to then amend the attribution to the new account just let me know. Something I never thought of doing until Lyrithya told me it was possible and how it was done. (Probably a mistake on her part, in retrospect.) {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|03:32 06 Jan}}
-:::::::Naw don't worry about it, I just renamed User:Spike to User:PuppyOnTheSpike. So there should be no problem giving SPIKE his name change. Thank for offering to help though! -- {{User:Zombiebaron/sig}} 03:35, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
-::::::::I can't work out if that's an allusion to impaling, gay bestiality, or processed meat products. New site appears to be a success - done more edits there this year then I have here. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|04:08 06 Jan}}
-:::::::::Yeah, the new site is rockin'! Did you hear TheLedBalloon is writing a new article there? -- {{User:Zombiebaron/sig}} 04:23, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
-:::Just to clear up the misinformation on the misinformation.  The password is '''not''' on the new site until you enter it when logging in for the first time.  Wikia doesn't give out passwords ever.  You give it to the new site, an extension there verifies it by logging in as you here, and then creates the new account with that password.  OK, now that that's cleared up, carry on. -- {{User:Sannse/Sig}} 05:01, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
-::::::::::I'm just getting ready to start a new article here TBH.
+== Joke comment on [[User talk:Llwy-ar-lawr]] ==
-::::::::::Sannse: I understand that it's a hashing algorithm that's used to preserve password security. I'm assuming it's an MD5 hash. Lyrithya stated that given a database she'd be able to “hack” the password, but I doubt she'll have much luck doing that.
-::::::::::ZB - Serious question: It's been stated that nothing done here will be moved to the new site, and vice versa. Given both sites are operating under NC-BY-CC-SA, any individual user can grab the content of a page and transpose it at the other site, as long as they comment during the transposition where it has come from, and that would be legally permissible. Obviously administrators can undo or delete these entries as a gesture of goodwill, but that's the choice of said administrator. Also any admin could, at any time, export and import a page from one to the other. We've never had a policy that restricts this in the past - both Al and Lyrithya have articles that are near identical here and on Illogicopedia. Are you going to “officially” add a restriction on porting content to the ignorable policies of the site? (While at the same time allowing users to happily modify their own articles on both sites?)
-::::::::::As an adjunct to that, if a user has edited pages on one site, which has later had edits by another user, are you going to allow them to port them from one site to the other? (Or, to rephrase, if I rewrote a page here and then said “Can you import it?” would admins be willing to do that? Or would it be simply a given that intermediary edits may come across with content without proper attribution in page history?) {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|05:20 06 Jan}}
-:::::::::::I'm not really sure what you are talking about. You seem to have misunderstood talk about the practicalities of moving the wiki for discussion of some kind of future policy change. What we meant when we said that we would stop moving things done here to the new site was that we were ceasing to copy ''all'' new edits. You can copy any material written on this site post-January 3rd to the new site (with proper attribution of course). -- {{User:Zombiebaron/sig}} 05:30, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
-:Apparently this page isn't the village dump. Of course, each time I add content there I tend to be ignored or dismissed. Here there's an interesting discussion happening. But I understand some of the difficulties in migrating a fork - I seem to recall doing a similar thing myself. My question was on the policy aspect. In short, the policy is to have no policy - in which you reserve the right to take future edits from here and move them to your mirror. Which is pretty much the crux of what I was trying to understand. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|06:03 06 Jan}}
-== Dear SPIKE ==
+SPIKE, I thought we were on good terms now. If I make a joke comment and you realise that, can you repond with a joke instead of a serious comment please? (Refering to Llwy's talk page). Thanks. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  13:28, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
-If you choose to stay on the Wikia site (or even decide never to contribute to either the new one or the old one again because of your conflict with TKF), I ''will'' miss working with you. You have a precision in editing that reminds me to be careful with my own crappy compositions, and I enjoy coming up with javascript hacks for you at the drop of a hat.
+:Sure. If you will stop interpreting my retaliatory poke as a "serious comment" and stop obsessing about whether it indicates a sea change in my opinion of you. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>13:36 16-May-13</small>
+Make it a good joke and maybe I'll get it. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  13:38, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
-However, I will never forgive you for lumping me in with your description of "children with the Entitlement Mentality". Yes, I realize you didn't mention me by name, and you'll probably say "if you think I was referring to you, you fit the bill." However, unlike the rest of the "99%" generation, we didn't camp out in front of Wikia's swank lobby with protest signs, shouting and throwing feces at them as they passed. Well, we ''did'', metaphorically&#8212;but then we got off our asses and built our own server, so that we could run the site more freely than under our current corporate overlords.
+== ScottPat's Forum ==
-Unless I'm mistaken, freedom of expression and an attitude of self-reliance aren't things reviled in the New Hampshire or America as a whole. I seem to recall reading a book about a group of entitled, whiny merchants and politicians who became pissed at a corporate entity around 200 years ago or so, and decided to strike out on their own. I can't recall for the life of me how that ended, but I also don't believe anyone has called [[wikipedia:Founding Fathers of the United States|them]] "entitled children" since Lord Fredrick North's time. Am I making an undue comparison between a successful revolution and a dispute between a poorly-run company and a bunch of failed comedy writers? Yes. Yes I am. And I stand by it.{{User:Bizzeebeever/signature|20130106055141}}
+Just to let you know Spike that the reason I set up the forum was to find out whether there were any other active users on at the time of the attack when I first got on. Thanks for deleting it. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  06:00, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-::BB, you'z a crazy revolutionary. I challenge you to a duel on the banks of the Potomac, be there at sunrise tomorrow and wait for me. As for Spike, I would hope all parties involved agree that it is a new start, that people will treat each other better at the new site, and that maybe that stuff on the voting page for WotY there be removed. Spike is one of our backbones (the second verterbrae I believe), does so many saves and helps new and veteran users, and he was a long way ahead in writing the most features in 2012 (the next closest, TKF, was three behind. That's like Secretariat running backwards and winning at the Belmont, which he did in fact). When Spike signs up at the new site I hope TKF and others slaughter the fatted calf and welcome him with open arms (and legs). [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 11:38 6-1-'13
+:Indeed. If you see from the variety of names used in his automated change summaries by now, it is not a personal vendetta but a quest for attention from anyone. That forum would have been his ultimate reward. We changed the parameters to make the attack less notorious; also got help from Wikia. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:00 17-May-13</small>
-:::I hope so too, IF Spike chooses to sign up at the new site, knowing him. Maybe its better to wait out this ban while the drama dies down, and the bugs on the new site get worked out. You didn't actually think everything would be running perfectly when it opened, did you? Nothing ever works out quite that well, unfortunately, knowing technology. Meanwhile, the username "Spike" is available on the new site, which seems to me to be a sign of goodwill. Please, Spike, do go check out the new site, even just to reserve your username and take a quick look around. As with any new site, there will be a measure of confusion and chaos but there's a bug report forum for that. The Batch Delete function also isn't working over there yet, so don't go over there just to request that all your stuff be deleted from mainspace (like a certain user did). A vote on that might be in the works. {{User:Simsilikesims/sig}} 22:27, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
+I never thought of it as a personal vendetta. He/she changed who he attacked simply on the basis of which person last edited pages on the website. I was talking to Romartus about getting Wikia to do something about it so thanks.
-::::Spike will be able to speak for himself when he serves out the ban. I don't think any user can request to have their material deleted on those grounds. Articles can be selected for deletion on VFD but only the issues we are all aware of - i.e. not funny, not any good, town cruft etc etc. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 23:12, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
-:::::Actually any user can, but the administartion has chosen to not delete a user's body of work until a community consensus is reached relating to this issue, and until they have their batch delete working. Also, does Godwin's law also relate to the American fondling fathers? {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|11:18 06 Jan}}
-::::::I guess they were the guys shut out from the original committee. Then there were the Foundling Fathers..the ones abandoned on a door step with the note 'I was going to expose my child to wild beasts on a mountain but this place looks as good as any other for that purpose.' --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 10:36, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
-==UnNews and how it is running==
+Thanks to everyone who reverted during that night (well night for me anyway). It was a real team effort and when the Americans and Aussies were going to bed the Brits had just woke up to continue the reverts. I still think there is more to be reverted though. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  11:10, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
+:I put in a new rule that Anon gets only two edits per minute and the vandal seemed to lose interest. Later on Wikia came in and put in another rule trying to pattern-match the exact edits, but the guy will quickly see what's being filtered and adapt. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:13 17-May-13</small>
+:On further repair, view [[Special:RecentChanges]] and click "Hide patrolled edits". {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:14 17-May-13</small>
+----
+:Scott, at your current privileges, do you see when reviewing single edits, "Newer edit -> [Mark edit as patrolled]"?  If so, then when undoing vandalism, you must walk back to the start of the vandalism and mark each edit.  Otherwise the page will come back up in the report as needing patrolling, once we work through the (as of last night) at least 1800 edits.  Although you corrected the page, someone will have to look inside to verify that this is the case; that is the most time-consuming thing about this repair. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:13 17-May-13</small>
-Since my recent return, I have tried to figure out who is running UnNews at the moment. Unfortunately, noone seems to know who is in charge of what. I believe your still active with UnNews, correct? --{{User:Mnbvcxz/sig5}} 19:01, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
+Yes I do see mark as patrol however only on IP edits not on user ones and also if I revert something I can't mark it as patrol after only before. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  11:15, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-:Right now, I don't know as that is one of the issues to be decided this week. As you can see, Aleister and the others are posting stories on both wikis so it is really only a question about who organises the template. For now, I will oversee it. I will updating the UnNews template page today. Thanks. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 19:10, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
+:Edits from users with <code>Autopatrolled</code> do not require patrolling; so your observation on "user ones" applies only to trusted users. Revert (versus Undo) automatically patrols the reverted edit, but doesn't let you provide explanation. Undo should be used to explain to user names and then you must manually patrol the undone edit. Each Admin here has been scolded on occasional lapses. Correcting the page is only half the job; you must record that you did, by clearing the patrol flag, so that others aren't led there only to verify that you already fixed it.
-::My main concern was that someone was updating it here. Also, are you guys updating the featured article too? Because of the possible decrease in membership, keeping VFH running might get difficult. --{{User:Mnbvcxz/sig5}} 19:13, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
+:There is a JavaScript thingie on RecentChanges that patrols all edits. The problem is that the current list of vandal edits extends past the end of a RecentChanges listing. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:23 17-May-13</small>
-:::Welcome back, Mnbvcxz!  Mattsnow and GlobalTourniquet, in that order, were the last two to step up for full-service Editor-in-Chiefing, until their respective schedules changed.  More recently, Matt lobster has juggled the feature lists.  I was [[User:SPIKE/UnNews#Contributions|sporadically active]] this fall but the news has not gripped me with mirth since, say, last November 6. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>19:20 7-Jan-13</small>
-::::I will do the juggling in the meantime until we decide who wants to look after that page in the next few days. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 19:25, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
-:::::And there is a new featured article  for Tuesday. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 19:26, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
-==Grand Rapids==
+I know that was quite annoying. Talking of vandals we seem to have one who is subtly writing absolute nonsence on IP pages and even made an article that Snippy put on QVFD. He/she writes half of the article in German. He/she seems to use multiple IP addresses. You can see his/her edits on Recent Changes as his summaries are random numbers and letters. Thought I'd let you know. Thanks. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  11:28, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-I just left the new building and saw that your Grand Rapids page is featured on its front porch. I think they left a light burning in the window there for you. Maybe I should nom one of my pages here, I don't know which are ready. Many are good, few are chosen. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 4:10 8-1-'13
+:I'm still working through correspondence, but I'll review this now. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:32 17-May-13</small>
-:Sorry for the delayed response!  Indeed, any records for Uncyclopedia in 2013 will have to have more asterisks than their counterparts in the 2013 miniature of the National Hockey League. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>03:46 9-Jan-13</small>
+:PS--<code>http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidepatrolled=1&limit=2500</code> may be amusing if you have a faster connection than I do. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:40 17-May-13</small>
-::Sans Asterix DeGaulle. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 10:27, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
-:::You could become Asterix in Chains....--{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 10:28, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
-==[[UnNews:ACLU silent on gun control debate]]==
+==Terms-of-Use ban of Multiliteralist==
-You are the first person from whom I would like to hear opinion on this. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>03:19, Jan. 12, 2013</small>
+:PS--Undo me at [[Forum:I'm leaving, and it's your fault‎]] at your discretion. The author has been banned for putting his recommendation into practice last night. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:32 17-May-13</small>
-==[[UnNews:Facebook introduces ‘Nookie’]]==
+Don't understand what you mean by the last PS bit. Undo what part??? {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  11:35, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-Hey mate! I have pretty good one here. But if you can see any way to improve the first para or any part then please go for it. .... BTW: I really hope you're going to be Unnews editor again (like you were before the dickweeds created Prickipedia). Cheers!--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>16:07, Jan 16</small></small>
+:If you wish to answer his rant rather than just excise it as I did, feel free. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:40 17-May-13</small>
-:For some reason, I jumped on this the moment it came up.  The first paragraph did not read like news (Who? What? Where? When? How?) but as a sales brochure, a problem that persists in the use of the second person throughout.  I have been over it with small tweaks and now a second Source regarding what the "Anal ysts" [sic] say about it.
-:Now back to you: Your fake name Nookie is based on nothing.  A better parody of "Graph Search", given your take on the news, would be "Grope Search".  If you agree, do a global-replace and rename the article. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>16:34 16-Jan-13</small>
-Hey, good work! On the name, I like Nookie, because of the play on Siri (who will never answer simple questions like "How big are your nipples?"). Lets keep the Nookie name. Cheers!--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>17:00, Jan 16</small></small>
+So you want me to answer a guy's rant because you don't want to do it yourself. (I'm sure that's not what you mean it's just I find it hard to understand why you want me to undo your undo). What's more is that you are encouraging me to respond to a vandal which you always warn me not to. Is this a joke in which you anticipate that I might want to reply to him? Confused still. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  11:45, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-:You are the author, and thus I did not "be italic" on such a major change. But "Nookie" is a play on a related, incidental concept, whereas "Grope Search" would be a play on the news itself, which is preferable. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:12 16-Jan-13</small>
-::You did a good job with the edit. But we're not going to mess it up with a name change. This is as much a play on Siri (a girl's name and voice) as it is on Facebook. ''Facebook introduces grope''?---fuck that dry impersonal BS! My concept is ''Nookie''. If you want to write another news with Grope - well, be my guest, that's all yours. Cheers--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>17:35, Jan 16</small></small>
-==[[Mutaween]]==
+PS Thanks for the 2500 one. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  11:45, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-:''extracted from the start of the previous section''
-We have a collab FA today with Mutaween, which is half yours. Cheers!--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>16:07, Jan 16</small></small>
-:The feature belongs entirely to you!  I contributed one small section by way of a segue to a minor pun (and you may keep me in the article's Change History), but did not even vote for it for FA, stating that "I continue to believe that awareness-raising is getting in the way of humor."  If I had tried to smooth over the article to solve this philosophical disagreement, it would be a true collab; as it is, you are entitled to one full point in the Hall of Shame. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:24 16-Jan-13</small>
-Thanks, mate! Much appreciated.--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>17:35, Jan 16</small></small>
+:This is not a joke. I would like a second pair of eyes on it (though Romartus has already seen and endorsed my one-month ban).  I don't necessarily want you to answer his rant; I would like your opinion on whether my solution is the best. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:48 17-May-13</small>
-:Ah! you see, you were offering me half of that last cupcake because you wanted the whole thing all along.  A pleasure doing business with you. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:37 16-Jan-13</small>
-Hey, I'm always happy to share. Although, I forgot that you didn't vote for Mutaween. Yeah, not voting is a major disqualification on VFH. But, much thanks for the help. BTW: Have you ever written anything in the real world that was published? Cheers!--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>17:49, Jan 16</small></small>
+Oh sorry, simpleton over here understands now. My misunderstanding. I will take a good look and post my opinion to you on this page in a few minutes. Thanks. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  12:24, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-:Yeah, "I oppose this article but will happily take half credit."  Separately, that could be the most demeaning question since you wondered recently whether I had ever been on the other side of the county line.  In fact, I have hundreds of published books, none with my name on them; those are always the terms of employment. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:57 16-Jan-13</small>
-::Spike, I've always wondered, and this is a good time to ask it, if you can chew gum and write at the same time. Not to insult you in any way, but can you tell time? How many quarts in a gallon, I'm thinking you might not know. Mares eat oats, and does eat oats, and little lambs eat ivy - a kid'll eat ivy too, wouldn't you? [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 23:54 16-1-'13
-:::"Spike: I understand you try to seem smart and economically competent. You are not. You neither understand what I write, or have the capability to restate any position I take....You really should try and stick to your own points rather than ride my and other posters' coat tails. If only you understood economics and finance as well as you think you do....You really are one of the lightest posters on this board....You should run in your Primary. You're the best they've got!!!" --Someone else, today, a continent away on another blog. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:12 17-Jan-13</small>
-::::You know that that fellow was being an ignorant dick. We, of course, are smart dicks. Here's what I did way earlier today/yesterday, but it would look better if you sign up as a member there - then you skip most of the ads and get to see the avatars of each poster and lots of other fun stuff. But today [http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread918494/pg1 I tried to create an urban legend], with maybe good results if anyone ever sees it. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleik''']] 00:19 17-1-'13
-:::You have always been the most courteous leftie I deal with. Apart from a serious self-promotion Jones. Completely separately, please [[Forum:Reminder: Clear "Patrolled" flag]]. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:24 17-Jan-13</small>
-::::Thanks, I am left-handed, although actually ambridexteriously. I had thought that it cleared automatically on an undo but apparantly not, and on one of them I had to clear it and then go back and undo it. Is there an easier way? Have you ever tried ATS? You may like it, in fact knowing you [[Stranger in a Strange Land|as I do]] I think you would. Many people of your irk post there, raving and sounding intelligent and more economically competent by the minute. I just looked at the site without signing in and it's horrible, ads everywhere, even between every fourth or fifth post. Some people lurk for years and then sign in, I don't see how they could look at it or make out what's going on. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 00:33 17-1-'13
-:::Rollback seems to clear it, but revert via Undo does not; it merely initializes an edit window in a particular way with a particular Change Summary.  Separately, many of us do not have your allergy to advertisements. I am not presently looking for new forums to get irked by people of my "irk" [sic]. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:38 17-Jan-13</small>
-::::A patrolled tag is removed:
-::::#On an revert
-::::#By clicking “Mark as patrolled” on the diff page (or on the page assuming it's a new page)
-::::#By using BB's patrolling script
-::::An undo won't remove it, but a revert won't allow you to give a reason for the undo, and can seem harsher when dealing with noobs writing with best intention but lack of skill. A decent scripter could probably create an “undo and patrol” tag/option, but that's beyond my capacity. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:04 17 Jan}}
-:::::I apologise for ilking you. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:07 17 Jan}}
-:::I am not even contemplating going on IRC to get irked by my irk.  Thanks, this is how I thought the Patrol tag worked.  I use Revert only on I.P.Anon, and liberally when they make lists listier or add memes or quotes, but users with names almost always deserve a Change Summary and often deserve contact via talk page.  Ideally, Undo (when done by a trusted=Autopatrolled user and not by the vandal himself) should remove the Patrol tag, as someone has patrolled the change and responded via Undo (whether he reverts it or uses the edit window to go halfway). {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>02:17 17-Jan-13</small>
-::::I also avoid the IRCsome corners of this site. And I agree, and was one of the things I was looking into a while ago - especially as a one click, type in rationale for undo, and submit type of thing - but I left here at a stage when nobody was actually bothering to patrol regularly. (Frosty excepted.) {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:50 17 Jan}}
-==Headers are good==
-Just a thought related to the skin we have here.  At present we have this in the [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]
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+I like to think of myself as quite a just man and I hate to say it but I'm probably biased here but I'll try not to be.
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-This exceedingly ugly piece of code allows us to have the "boxes" in the forums here. This - oddly - is completely different to what they have at Wikipedia, and doesn't relate to the vector skin at all.
+*Firstly saying that they are not cherry-picking editors is wrong. One of the editors from the other site tried to make me come to their site on another forum (can't remember what the forum was called but it was about everyone giving reasons to stay on Wikia) by claiming that you had brainwashed me even though I stated reasons as to why I was staying.
+*People on his site may go over there "without help" however the good writers' talents are wasted on that site's type of comedy. Instead of writing articles that have clever comedy in that you feel really pleased about writing at the end because it took a lot of work and now that has been payed off, they write a swear word and put in a picture of something sex related and call it funny. There minds are not allowed to mature.
+*Multiliteralist himself seems a decent writer (by looking on the other site (t.here are some decent writers on that site)) but on his talk page he claims that the point of Uncyclopedia (non-Wikia) is not to parody wikipedia as that aim was achieved a few years ago. As far as I was aware Uncyclopedia is meant to be a parody of wikipedia and if it is not then I wouldn't have joined and I don't see what other point it can have.
+*Romartus I don't think is biased here as he is not on that site at all so he seems to be in the same position as you and I. He has judged very fairly before although my encounters with him have been short and occasional. I think he thinks that you just went too far with deleting the comment.
-Also on [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] we have the following:
+To conclude (please do read the bits above, they are important): I think that a response to him would be justified. Perhaps a clever and well thought-out one. Maybe subtly asking him what the purpose of uncyclopedia really is. By deleting his comment you are just showing more tension.
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-The final four of those items are off-site links - the first of which is a commercial entity that is now being used to raise funds for the fork, as far as I'm aware. (Assuming the $2.83 or so they raised can be considered as any form of significant income). All of these sites are also being used to direct readers back to the new fork.
-The first is predominantly cosmetic issue. The second is probably more related to the external liks forum we were recently disucssing. Given my current status in some circles as the anti-uncyclo-christ, I'm loathe to do much more than raise this to the attention of other community members. Your perspective on this is probably along the same lines as mine. What action do you think would be advisable? {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|08:49 21 Jan}}
+I think Aleister is right that we need to draw the sites together. It reminds me of the Cold War which many people have said. The opposing idealogies are clever humour vs. cheap humour. Apart from that the sites should have the same aims and purpose. Both sides claim that the other site brainwashes their users and so on. By replying to their messages maybe we can start detente.
-:Sorry for the delay; I looked at a change summary of this message once, and followed the link to common.css, but never saw the rest of your message until now.  (And your darned signature doesn't display anything until one reads the source code; this is carrying Aleister's disdain for corporate life to extremes.)  At one point there was an Uncyclopedia Store, with real UnNews coffee cups.  The use of the very new <code>.co</code> domain is suspicious, as is the unusual spelling "uncyclopaedia" in the final two entries.  I know some of the Forkers bragged about controlling the IRC channel and I know they view [[WP:Uncyclopedia]] as a battleground too.  I would not be surprised if the final four links are controlled by the Fork as well.
+Please read and think about what I have said Spike. Thanks. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  12:43, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-:If so, this is more theft by deception, against Wikia whose corporate efforts attracted readers to this site, and defrauds the reader, who never expects his mouse click will result in funds transferred to a privately owned parallel website with a copy of Uncyclopedia's articles.  Further to our discussion on your talk page about the outrages of corporate life (against which the gripes of the Forkers are trivial): If you worked on the <code>.co</code> site, your paycheck would bounce. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:53 21-Jan-13</small>
-::You really do fit the mold of '[http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Vulgar_libertarianism vulgar libertarianism]'. You take the side of a corporation over the aspirations of people who simply desire freedom and to profit over what is rightfully there's. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>04:03, Jan. 22, 2013</small>
-:::''Comedy'' ain't supposed to be about the ''money'', man. --{{User:Thekillerfroggy/sig}} 04:30, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
-::::Well, I didn't say it ''was''. However, Spike is arguing about money, and I'm saying if merchandise profits should go to anyone, it should go to ''us'', not Wikia. On that note, most of our money will go to keeping the site up, so Spike is double-wrong. I like that. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>04:37, Jan. 22, 2013</small>
-:::::And the phrase "outrages of corporate life" is just gold. Ain't no stoppin the Spike train! --{{User:Thekillerfroggy/sig}} 04:56, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
-::::::This is SPIKE's talk page and not a common room to discuss him as if he was invisible.  Thank you. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 08:38, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
-:::::::Excuse me, but it is ''him'' who is ignoring ''us''. I assume it's because of bad blood. If you notice a few sections up, I asked him for his opinion on a news article more than a week ago and he never responded. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>09:45, Jan. 22, 2013</small>
-::::::::Look further up the page Kip. If I had left a comment like that on your user page, would that encourage collaboration or an acknowledgement? --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 13:37, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
-:::::::::Are you referring ''"I have never loathed you.."'' comment? I said that in a moment of anger. His comment was a summary of my entire beef with him: He believes our forking was an autocratic exercise in immaturity, while in the same breath he downplays any of the oppression we've been through with the cold Wikia. Anything after this is childish misdirected rage, for which I sincerely apologize. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>17:35, Jan. 22, 2013</small>
-I love Stadtler and Waldorf. As for the date/time in my sig - I've set it up as a tooltip. (Hover over the date/time text.) Thank you for expressing an opinion when I asked you for an opinion. Much appreciated. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|10:10 22 Jan}}
+PS - I think that when you reverted him you should have put a comment in the summary and that is why Romartus has asked you to revert the revert.{{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  12:43, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-:Wa-hey! look at that!  That is as subtle as double-clicking; truly "too clever by half."  Regarding your first observation in this section: I am not at all attached to the boxes in the Forum--but neither at the notion that an exact superficial resemblance to Wikipedia is a key to our attempt to satirize them. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>15:22 22-Jan-13</small>
-==In light of all the rocks and sticks being thrown at you...==
+Do you agree with the above. Should we reply to him? {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  13:17, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-...I was wondering if you can cook? On a stone, or a stove, or an oven. Or do you use microwaves. Have you ever eaten out at a restaurant? Just wondering. [[user:Aleister|'''Al''']] 13:13 22-1-'13
-:Avoiding excess grease and sugar is now a higher value than bold new experiences, and a typical meal is nuked rice or couscous with one of those curry things stirred in.  But there is a Chinese place (essentially a chippie) I often visit halfway to my favorite sports venue. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>15:22 22-Jan-13</small>
-::Oh. This was meant, of course (for those in need of humor, I don't personally find anything funny) as a joke, but great, you're eating good. At times in my life I've been "off" sugar for years and on for years (when off of it maybe once or twice a year I'd eat sugar while getting high on some kind of herb, and they mix as a hallucinogen). Am currently no-sugared since Sept. 18. Rice, cous cous, ah, the feasts of life. For a non-sugar treat, have you had Rice Dream (ice cream without the cream). Doesn't sound like you're vegan, but in the past year Amy's has come out with a rice-crust pizza with soy cheese that actually melts. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 15:57 22-1-'13
-::I like your new user page header. Sent you an email, in case you don't check those often. I seldom check my Al account, but do so after I write someone. The guy who's doing the band page is really good, I hope he sticks around to do at least one original page so he can see if he likes writing in this style. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 21:00 23-1-'13
-:Your email hasn't arrived yet; I poll every 10 minutes.  I replied to you on his talk page, where I hopefully turned him over to you. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:04 23-Jan-13</small>
-===[[HowTo:Become A Rapist]]===
+:I have restored his comment and have replied. Thanks for your input. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>13:26 17-May-13</small>
-Spike, you know what? The IP's edits on HowtoBecome a rapist are actually good, and I like the page a lot more after his edits. A lot. It shortened it, took out lots of the deadwood as well as parts the page both shouldn't be teaching ''and'' aren't that funny. I say we keep it as the IP edited it, and I'll see if any important links were deleted. Please take a look at the page when he got done with it and see what you think. But not now, all work and no play and that.[[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 3:25 24-1-'13
-:I'll defer to you if you've actually looked at the result; I assumed it was just a blanker, perhaps a phone worker at a Rape Crisis Center on an evening when no one's calling in.  It is a damned cold night to go out raping.  By the way, your email never arrived.  Good night. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>03:34 24-Jan-13</small>
-::Probably a blanker, but they blanked the worse of it in terms of being too-far out there and trimmed the page back to a very good version as versions go, maybe unintentionally, which is the same as intentional when the intent is right. Not a bad job. Email, will look into it later. A long and interesting day in uncy history. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 3:42 24-1-'13
-==[[User:Projectmayhem666/Thailand]]==
+No problem any time you need help. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  13:33, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-Made a plan of action, hopefully will get around to it. Struggling to find time, and when I do I'm usually distracted and finding it hard to come up with anything funny. Will Peereview and see if what I write is better than what is already on there. {{User:Projectmayhem666/sig}}. 18:49, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
-:OK.  The biggest problems I see with the mainspace version is that the Fun Facts have gone out of control (as Fun Facts always do) and it could use more information for people unfamiliar with the local news, and less reliance on simple puns. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>19:02 24-Jan-13</small>
-::It feels like an attack article that exists to insult the subject, rather than an article that is trying to be funny. --{{User:Mnbvcxz/sig5}} 12:45, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
-:The mainspace article is not terribly good, but not entirely malevolent; there's also some not terribly good Randumbo. Hence the effort to rework it, which 666 has graciously accepted.  {{U|Funnybony}} lives there and turned down this assignment.  I think the place is an autocracy where anyone who knows enough to write a funny article is safer not doing so. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:52 27-Jan-13</small>
-::I would agree with your reasoning. However, articles to attack to prove a point rather than be funny often don't off as funny. Thailand is in a relatively backwards part of the world, and is about on par, in terms of freedom, for the region.  It sort of comes across like town-cruft, because there is nothing that sets apart Thailand, either real or imagined. An alternative similar article on Mubage or Kim Jong-un or even Vladimir Putin would work, simply because they are more notable. This one comes across, as a "same crap, different day" article. --{{User:Mnbvcxz/sig5}} 13:14, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
-:I hope Projectmayhem is following this and getting a sense of what needs to be done. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>13:38 27-Jan-13</small>
-==Aleister chats up an IP==
+Nice reply. I'll support you if there is any opposition to you replying. What I really want to know is what he thinks the purpose of Uncyclopedia is if it is not to parody wikipedia. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  13:37, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-The IP had a point on the Primitive Taliban page, I left him a note on his talk page. We're getting some pretty good IP's the last couple days. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 21:28 24-1-'13
-:I too have been encouraged by the stream of new contributors.  However, Aleister, if you are going to chat up IPs (other than to ask good ones to register), please investigate the context.  This one is a few digits down from Template Spammer (thus probably the same guy), who started in again this morning after coming back from a 6-month ban and picking up right where he left off.  I don't care if this particular blind squirrel found an acorn in your eyes, the reward of your attention could be disastrous. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:35 24-Jan-13</small>
-:Alright. But I tried to tame him, and if he continues, yeah. Apologies, I didn't check into him but saw that he was trying to help on the Taliban USA page. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 21:43 24-1-'13
-I am wrong, he is not the perma-banned Template Spammer.  But I assume that 198.228.228.21 is an incarnation of 198.228.228.40 and 198.228.228.32, in other words ban evasion. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:46 24-Jan-13</small>
+:As an aside, if you were the victim of my brainwashing, one would think I would have done a complete enough job that you would not conclude so often that I must hate you.
-:Why don't we see if he signs up as a member and decides to respect people. Miracles happen. [[user:Aleister|'''Al''']] minute later
+:Parodying Wikipedia is not our "purpose"--which indeed could have been done with a couple dozen articles--but our motif, a default style in which to write new articles. Thus the job is not done as long as life continues to unfold. This is indeed not a site for unbounded fiction writing or even unbounded comedy writing, but primarily for pages that support the gag that we are a legitimate encyclopedia, a legitimate dictionary, or a legitimate news service. ML has always chafed under this structure and has authored Forums asking for new namespaces that would accommodate his notions, from ranty expressions of personal opinion to descriptions of bowel movements.  He is in the right place now; if he would only stop returning to, yes, sabotage this one. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>13:43 17-May-13</small>
-I can't predict the future.  But I can see that what he does, as the Template Spammer does too, is make a lot of annoying tweaks to a lot of unrelated pages.  If he is the next Solzhenitzyn, I will admit error.  But '''engaging him is an enormous reinforcement''' even if your amended engagement merely directs him to register, and being the source of a disagreement between two registered users is an even bigger reinforcement. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:52 24-Jan-13</small>
+I think we were right about the brainwashing and ML has been tricked himself: [Quotation deleted]  Also brainwashing is fine by me as long as it is done in the right way.
-PS--I think you got your wish.  You now have an adoptee!  Append to [[User talk:Kirbyfan1996]] if you see fit. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:58 24-Jan-13</small>
+By the way Spike, Al and I were wondering what your views are on the content warning and your reason behind those views. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  14:16, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-:Hmmmmmm. He's going to have to make a quick 260 on the respect level. We'll see. [[user:Aleister|'''Al''']] 22:09
+:Brainwashing implies dishonesty, or at least manipulation.  (For example, throwing a long quote from Multiliteralist, at his sardonic best, in my face, to try to bias me against him, apart from his conduct? I already have a firm opinion of him, thank you.)  The best example was MrN9000's visit to your talk page (for which he received my first Terms-of-Use ban), agreeing with you that the style of humor at the Fork was unacceptably childish, but promising that it would improve, through application of an unspecified process. I do not agree with brainwashing.
+:Regarding the Content Warning, are you kidding? I have stated my opinion repeatedly in the Forum and on Aleister's talk page. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:17 17-May-13</small>
-===...and Kirbyfan1996 appears on the scene===
+The quote was a joke Spike. I was being sarcastic. I do believe in brainwahing, it's called education but then I believe in a strong state (American Nightmare!!!!).
-Hi, I'm new to Uncyclopedia. Like really new. I literally just made my account about an hour ago. I'd like help understanding why I'm on thin ice for a large series of trivial edits to pages. Including this page, I have only "made my mark" on two pages. Nor have I ever done anything that would get me banned from a web community before. I may not be the funniest or most creative person out there, and I'd like help learning how to convey my more creative side. But I just want to understand the criticism.
+The last bit was to confirm that you were against the content warning changing as you think that it is simply another episode that will go nowhere. (Am I correct?). {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  17:24, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
-BTW, who's this Template Spammer guy? When I posted this on your talk page, I read the IP section just above it. If my computer's IP address is similar to your guy, it might be because I'm using InPrivate Browsing (I don't like cookies and other stuff from the Internet that automatically gets stored an causes problems as this is what happened to my last computer.) {{Unsigned|Kirbyfan1996}}
+==Managing UnNews==
+Do we mean to mislead users in this section [[UnNews:Newsroom#Managing UnNews]]? Should I replace the links to reflect the Lead Article 2 template? {{User:Zim_ulator/sig}} 02:04, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
+:The Newsroom is not a reference manual but essentially a big talk page. Don't change the record of what was discussed; at the time, those files were how to lay out the Front Page. The current method should be described somewhere, but not in the Newsroom. Right now, the wagon train of UnNews Chiefs just read the documentation in the templates themselves. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>02:13 20-May-13</small>
+::You got it, chief. {{User:Zim_ulator/sig}} 02:34, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
-:So you've read my welcome to you on [[User talk:Kirbyfan1996]], and the previous section of this here page.  Your registration as Kirbyfan followed a vandal attack by the guy I described to you.  Aleister posted a message to him applauding one of his edits, I told him that was unwise, he edited the message to invite the vandal to register--and you turned up.  If this is a gigantic case of mistaken identity--if you are saying above that this is literally your second edit to our wiki--then I am mistaken.  (Even in that case, there is no harm in putting your best foot forward.)  We are all here to help you be funny, and we can proceed on this talk page or yours, where I did give you one tip about your other edit. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:05 24-Jan-13</small>
+== [[User:Trollman2000]] ==
-:PS--It has nothing to do with your IP address; ordinary users like me can't see your IP address when you use a user name.  It is the coincidence in time that made me suspicious. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:07 24-Jan-13</small>
+Hi SPIKE, please block the above user. Thanks a lot. :) {{User:Graphium/sig}} 00:56, 24 May 2013
-:[Memo to self]  The next day the Template Spammer returns, and makes a bee-line not for Kirby but [[Furby]].  I repeat my apology on Kirby's talk page. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>20:29 25-Jan-13</small>
+:Sometimes a user's choice of username saves us from having to guess!  However, in the case of this guy, I show no activity at all. What is the problem, please? {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>01:03 24-May-13</small>
+:PS--I was willing for a while to believe that he was making edits faster than I could follow from my slow connection out in the woods. But still nothing. I ought not ban him simply based on the choice of names. Most registered users never make a single contribution (such as, alas, lowercase {{U|Spike}}, who registered in 2006). By the way, rather than contact your favorite Admin (for which I thank you), the best way to make these requests is at [[UN:BP|Ban Patrol]], where whoever is on duty (and at the moment we do not have schedules) will satisfy it. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>01:18 24-May-13</small>
-:Photo of a [[Furby]] from Aleister seen, and deleted so I don't have to pay to load it again later, or see it again.  Who do you think you are, "self]"? {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:01 27-Jan-13</small>
+== Anon protests something ==
-==Thanks from Robstew==
+SPIKE.  Quite clearly a 40 year old virgin that lives in his Mum's basement and thinks he's the greatest wit since Monty Python's Life of Brian.   Your not.  By locking out a page and/or deleting it because you can't handle the challenge to your ego then I would suggest that this is not what Uncyclopedia is about.  I suggest that you take your head out of your fat arse ( I bet you don't weigh less than 20 stone!!!) and fuck off to a place where you might be appreciated, Iran, North Korea, the Planet Zog, et al........... {{Unsigned|86.153.69.78}}
-Hey, just wanted to say thanks for the feedback. This being the internet, I expected something completely offensive and nonconstructive. Your advice wasn't any of these things, and for that I am most grateful. I will definitely keep your revisions in mind. As you can see, the subaru page is still a bit of a work in progress. After looking around, I found that a different page about subaru was deleted by an admin. Hopefully with a bit of time, mine won't be.--[[User:Robstew|Robstew]] ([[User talk:Robstew|talk]]) 03:02, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
-:You're welcome. Offensive and nonconstructive can also happen here; just above you see part of a debate about how to treat newcomers who don't register and who seem to be vandals.  The weekend shift is undermanned at the moment because of the politics we all love, and those remaining are sometimes defensive.
+:As you sought the safety of an IP and did not explain what page has been locked and/or deleted, it is hard to explain why the action was taken, not that I'm inspired to do so. As you have seen fit to give me some armchair psychology, I will return the favor. "Your" too stupid to figure out "your" supposed to post to the bottom of talk pages; "your" convinced that "your" entitled to create anything you want and "your" under no obligation to make it fit into the goals of Uncyclopedia, and "your" supremely unpersuasive. It is not hard to imagine that you wrote some dreck that I (or someone else) saw fit to delete, and I am confident we will again if you write another. Because I am guessing "your" a very slow learner. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>22:23 24-May-13</small>
-:You are also wise to contact me here: I had already concluded that you were in good hands and "unwatched" your talk page, meaning I would not have seen a message left there.
+== [[Gay Darkness]] ==
-:The edit {{U|Simsilikesims}} made to your article coincides with the list of comments I gave earlier.  When writing, you must always decide who your reader is; here, it is a random person anywhere in the English-speaking world, notably the UK, Canada, and Australia.  2 out of 2 readers who cared to comment did not know who your auto-racer was; I am sorry to say it is just as bad for baseball stars.  Recently I helped out on a new article on [[Rick Nash]] (the star of the hockey NY Rangers) by a butt-hurt Columbus Bluejackets fan, and someone else was ready to delete it as an article about a family member or something.  A sentence with a summary of his accomplishments would help the reader relate to him (and you don't have to play that straight either).
+Hi, can you add my new article in this [[Template:Recent|template]]? Thank you. --[[User:The Phantom of Gay Darkness|The Phantom of Gay Darkness]] ([[User talk:The Phantom of Gay Darkness|talk]]) 16:21, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
+:No, and in fact, I will not let it remain on the site, because it fails our [[UN:CM|notability policy]]. We are not for descriptions of fondling games that your high-school pals play, not even if it is good enough for our Italian analog. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>16:48 25-May-13</small>
-:Reading your talk page: You are perfectly free to abandon the article on "Subaru" in your userspace if you get a more promising idea.  It was wise to look for other versions of Subaru--and, if you find them, study '''why''' they were deleted.  (If it was by [[UN:VFD|vote]], read the debate.  Also try my [[Rice burner]].)  You can upload any content you produce, provided you agree that it can be used for any non-commercial use subject only to giving you credit; regarding photos you take with your phone, please confine any vanity to your user page, a small amount to introduce yourself to other editors, not a catalog of everything you've done on the Web.  Happy editing! {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:01 27-Jan-13</small>
+::Are we meant to add new articles to this template as I haven't heard of it before and therefore haven't added any of my articles. {{User:ScottPat/sig2}}  18:34, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
+:There are no rules cast in stone for shameless self-promotion, but {{Tl|Recent}} (restricted to registered users) is a damned fine way to do it. You may post [[Turban|mine]] as well as your own, if you edit it.  I took mine straight to VFH--where your comment (Make it longer) is a valid suggestion that I will try to act on later today. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>18:55 25-May-13</small>
-==Rule 2==
+:::At Nonciclopedia we also think that the page is shit. --[[Special:Contributions/87.16.185.124|87.16.185.124]] 18:47, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
-SPIKE,as a concerned American(WOO America!!!), I see you have deleted a lot of stuff. I don't think you are American.You are a Uncyclopedia Nazi(read Hitler). THIS , IS , AMERICA!!!! Idiot {{unsigned|Drfg|00:15, January 28, 2013}}
+:Thank you for the input--In our Uploads Log, the author cited Nonciclopedia, probably to prove that the photos were not merely amateur photos of homosexual play (which they seem to be anyway).  Separately, yesterday a contributor from Bulgaria insisted that his article about either a minor town official or his neighbor were not cyberbullying: The article's subject had been in a YouTube video! {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>18:55 25-May-13</small>
-:As an idiot, you may have missed a few subtle points
-:*This is not America
-:*You started a discussion by invoking Godwin's rule
-:*Spike cannot delete any pages. He can edit pages. This is done for quality control. ([http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=SPIKE A complete list] of every pages Spike has deleted.)
-:*[[Hitler]] is a terrible article
-:Pleasure to be of assistance. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|12:20 28 Jan}}
-::PUPPY, as a concerned Fiji Islander(WOO Fiji Islands!!!), I see you have berated Drfg and stuff. I don't think you are Fiji Islander.You are a Uncyclopedia Nazi(read Goebbels). THIS, IS, FIJI ISLANDS!!!! Idiot [[user:Aleister|'''unsigned''']] 00:15, January 28. 2013
-Deleting is editing ,jackass.same to you on the nazi part.from reading your article you are a puppy fucker. {{Unsigned|Drfg}}
-:::I think the edit in question is to [[Car]], where Drfg added the bit in italics: "In 1879, Karl Benz patented his engine, allowing him to make the first car.''He immediately regretted it and became a hippie.''"  With no space following the previous sentence.  We regard this addition as Randumbo and deserving of deletion.  I had also seen your edit to your own user page, to-wit: "DRFG ROCKS!!!!!!! EVERY ELSE IS AN FUCKING RETARDED IDIOT,HA HA!!!!!!!!!EVERYONE ON THIS SITE HAS A SMALL DICK OR A PUSSY THAT SMELL LIKE RETARDED FISH."  And to [[Talk:Onion]], I quote: "Say something about how onion smell like ass."  In brief, I did not expect quality edits from you and the one I deleted was not one. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:40 28-Jan-13</small>
-::::Yes, I do fuck puppies, but that is [[Bestiality|a lifestyle choice]]. Anyway, to be serious, and I don't know the issues involved, why don't you pick a couple of your favorite edits that you are talking about and present your case in nice tones and with a hand of friendship extended, like an adult would (you can still have the other hand unextended and holding a stone-age knife, like I do). Then some of your edit, a word or two, can maybe go wherever it is you guys are talking about. Thanks, and if you calm the fuck down you can find a lot of good and creative people here who can give you a healthy learning curve. But what will probably happen is you will ignore my advice, get banned, and that will be that. Try to stick around, yes? [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 00:42 28-1-'13
-:::''May we vote?'' (Incidentally, you would be amazed how little of the time it works to tell someone to "calm the fuck down.") {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:47 28-Jan-13</small>
-::::We must try though. I have never calmed the fuck down when requested to, but miracles do happen (I just saw a Drew Barrymore film "Big Miracle", a pretty good movie), [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister calmed the fuck down''']] 00:52
-:::::Spike is right. ''Chill the fuck out'' is much more effective. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|03:14 28 Jan}}
-== [[Content warning]] ==
-I thought I'd said this in the past but I might as well say it now. I like content warnings when done the right way. One of the best examples of this is the content warning on South Park. It's a very quick warning and shows a distinct lack of respect for the fact that it needs a warning. That splash of irreverence actually drew me into the show. I also recall that the Naked Gun series had a few gems in their end credits along these lines, and even Michael Jackson's ''Thriller'' referred to "...resemblance to any persons living, dead, or undead..."
-Would I run the site without one if possible - yes. If we're going to have one would I make it as much of an indication of the site as possible? Absolutely.
-As for the issues you're having with viewing - the images off shouldn't make an impact (and if they do they'll make an impact here but not when the content warning actually is in place - that uses real background html.) But let me know what issues you're having. I've tested across a few browsers and resolutions, but I'm aware that there's a chance I missed something. If it's in your CSS that's killing it, then that's a non-issue. Your site CSS shouldn't kick in until the content warning is dismissed. (Effectively it'll be fine once you've logged in.) {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|12:12 30 Jan}}
-:I don't expect to prevail; but as the question is raised in a new place, I gave my opinion again.  The whimsical approach is way too much about what we think about ourselves and not about the decision the reader has to make.  On the CSS, almost all of my CSS is in <code>userContent</code> on my PC and thus takes effect for anything Uncyclopedia displays.  But again, even when I disable my CSS, without images the text is light-light-light-gray on white.  And disabling images should disable all downloads of images, whether through <code>[File:...]</code> or as a background image. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:47 30-Jan-13</small>
-::Isn't what we think about ourselves the same as what we want the reader to think about us? The choice is pink and kittens or scary lightning and Oscar Wilde. I myself loath and fear to come here, but here I am nonetheless. Almost time to eat, so I must be off to the races. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 12:54
-:I will definitely pick navel-gazing over irrelevance (kittens), but I'd rather play it straight to a newcomer.  Separately, I had a nice diced-ham-and-cheese vindaloo recently (sauce from a bottle, of course).  Yesterday it was a loaf of bread dipped in pie filling. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:57 30-Jan-13</small>
-::Code talk. Al, block your ears. The way I've put together the page is a bastardisation of background image, which means the option of background image OR dark blue colour doesn't quite work. If I could add the image into the CSS for the div then that would work. Having said that part of my hack meant that you should have most of the text on a dark blue background anyway. The fact that you don't bugs me. I'll give it another kick and see if it helps. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:17 30 Jan}}
-:::Ah - my bad. I took out a background colour on my “behind” div while experimenting and forgot to reinstate it. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:22 30 Jan}}
-:That fix got 'er done. Aleister, meanwhile, has blocked not only his ears but his mouth, see above. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>13:27 30-Jan-13</small>
-Enjoy the silence. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:30 30 Jan}}
-== VFS ==
-I see you're leading, if you get oppage. Congratulations.--{{User:Kamek98/sig2}} 21:51, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
-== ThePartTimeGroucho ==
-Hi you keep undoing all my changes. and ill admit, the one about the black people was pretty stupid. However, the changes to the Washington state page were very funny in my opinion, and I don't understand why you reverted them.
-:I explained that one on [[User talk:ThePartTimeGroucho|your user page]].  In fact, after reverting your first three edits, I sought the intervention of one of the site's Admins, and two other non-Admins have intervened with helpful tips to you.  For starters, everything you type is not automatically funny; you need something in mind, some plan for making the reader laugh.  More so when it tweaks issues of black-versus-white. Especially when you change something inside brackets, which is the name of an article that exists, to something that doesn't exist, or write "compton" and I'd have to go in and capitalize it anyway, it's easier to undo the change if it isn't funny, and these so far haven't been. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:41 31-Jan-13</small>
-==Forum==
-Since no admin is around, do you know how to get into a locked forum code? "Funnybony has 40 features" is the name, and I want to copy the start of it on some other site where Funnybony has just gotten his 40th. Thanks. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 00:49 31-1-'13
-:It's editable to me.  Even when it is "locked" there is a '''View source''' button where '''Edit''' should be.  You always have access to the code. Separately, that is not the name. If you want to cite a page, cite it correctly--better yet, link to it so I don't have to use our horrible search feature. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:56 31-Jan-13</small>
-My view doesn't have the view source, but I'll look again. On another topic, you know, with all the idiots and bots and things floating around, we should really just admin all four people - even Puppy who really doesn't want it, and Simi who I don't know what the big fuss is about her because I haven't seen her help out here very much since the move. But how about we make a push to admin all four of you, so the ban button could be in other people's hands when no admin is on-site. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 1:00 31-1-'13
-:Puppy and I have both stated that we would be happy with whatever the Chief Justice decides. Simsie is mostly at the Fork and Mn-z is mostly happily creating content, but I think they wouldn't object either. "We" are not going to make a push, as I am not going to make a push to change the rules in the middle of the game. But you are welcome to give your opinion to the Chief. For the record, if I had the ban button tonight, you would still be stinging, edit-conflicting me twice on my own talk page so you could respond to Groucho before I could and continue passing yourself off as a Negro to lay a guilt trip on him.  Just 10 minutes so I could get horrible T-Mobile to turn my post around. It is taking nearly a minute tonight. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>01:09 31-Jan-13</small>
-::Passing myself off as a negro? Well my good sir, my good sir!! And I got that thing done, thanks for opening it. [[user:Aleister|'''Ol Black Betty''']] 1:18 31-1-'13
-Groucho, meanwhile, is in again.  I comment on his talk page, but will leave it to one of youse to give him the deserved revert if you agree. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>01:21 31-Jan-13</small>
-==[[Great Library of Alexandria]]==
-The page is looking and reading really good. I knew it would be a saveable article, with all your work on it it's a classic of the (library) genre. I just saw an IP edit dogs, which reminded me I wanted to polish that page and make it better than it has a right to be. Alright IP! [[user:Aleister|'''Aleist''']] 23:29 1-2-'13
-:Um, yes.  He removed one excess space, then added, and I quote, "Dogs are cool." Rolled back.  Library is unbegun except to show what I would do with it: blur concepts of primitivity together, incompatibly, with the US capital district. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:45 1-Feb-13</small>
-::But dogs are cool! At least the bigger ones. I'm actually helping to raise another wolf (80%, the rest german shepard and there's speculation some coyote got in there somewhere), he just celebrated his 1st birthday and is a gamer. Are you going to continue on the Library? Is it open to play on it with you? [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 1:00 2-2-'13
-:The veracity of his statement was never in question; only the funniness.  Yeah, go play in the Library.  I hope you preserve the style of dryly getting all the facts wrong, unless you have something brilliant in mind. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>01:07 2-Feb-13</small>
-::No, nothing in mind. Thanks, I'd like to collab with you on such an auspicious page. I'll play on it sometime this weekend, today my time here is running short and I am "runnning long for the pass" - to quote Randy Moss, the self-styled best receiver in American football history (at least one of the top five). [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 1:11 2-2-'13

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