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*Please add any new topics at the end to be sure they are noticed.
New stuff at the end, please; I'll make it fit into the section organization after the topic dies down.
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*Don't split conversations between pages, for the benefit of future readers.
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*Post to [[User:SPIKE/UnNews]] about UnNews and UnNews Audio.
'''Is this about UnNews''' or UnNews audio? If so, [[User:SPIKE/UnNews|talk to me here]].
 
 
'''I don't routinely put a Watch on other people's talk pages.''' Nothing personal! I endorse keeping a conversation together on a single talk page, but a few days after the conversation ends, I will Unwatch you--the alternative being endless false alarms.
 
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Anything typed here I may post-edit clerically. Typically, I combine parts of dialogues that took place on the other guy's talk page. Some conversations that pertain to the text of an article are moved to that article's talk page.
 
   
 
==Archives==
 
==Archives==
*[[User:SPIKE/Cookies-09|Ceremonial greetings and cookies received in '09]] from Thekillerfroggy, MrN9000, Romartus, Pelargonium, and Hyperbole.
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*[[User:SPIKE/Cookies-09|Ceremonial greetings in 2009]].
*[[User:SPIKE/Forum-09|Forum threads I created in '09-'10]] on multiple articles on the same theme, my proposal for the [[UN:HTBFANJS|style guide]] on [[User:SPIKE/Cliches-1|encyclopedia clichés]], articles written from an uncyclopedic point of view, <code>background-image</code> in CSS, and suggested changes to {{tl|Q}}.
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*Conversations in 2009-10: [[User:SPIKE/Forum-09|Forums]], [[User:SPIKE/PLS-09|8th PLS]], [[User:SPIKE/Pee-09|Pee Reviews]], [[User:SPIKE/Techie-09|Technical]], [[User:SPIKE/Deadends-10|other]]. (On [[User:SPIKE/Islam-10|Islam]])
*[[User:SPIKE/PLS-09|My entries in the 8th Poo Lit Surprise]]: Clip-on tie, Rules of baseball (a winner), and FORTRAN.
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*Conversations in [[User:SPIKE/2011|2011]] [[User:SPIKE/2012|2012]]. (On [[User:SPIKE/Civics-12|civics and politics]])
*[[User:SPIKE/Pee-09|Pee reviews I did in '09-'10]]: ITSCON, MGMT, Third-wave feminism, Hyphenation, Hard disk drive, Ozzy Osborne.
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*Conversations in 2013 [[User:SPIKE/2013-1|before Oppage]]. After oppage: [[User:SPIKE/2013-2|2]] [[User:SPIKE/2013-3|3]] [[User:SPIKE/2013-4|4]] [[User:SPIKE/2013-5|5]] [[User:SPIKE/2013-6|6]] [[User:SPIKE/2013-7|7]] [[User:SPIKE/2013-8|8]]. Conclusion: Oppage makes one popular.
*[[User:SPIKE/Techie-09|Technical issues in '09-'10]]: Changing my user name; specifying a custom signature in a file; specifying a background color for data-entry windows; putting in for Redirect rights.
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*Conversations in 2014 [[User:SPIKE/2014-1|1]] [[User:SPIKE/2014-2|2]].
*[[User:SPIKE/Deadends-10|Conversations in '10 that are done]].
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*RFCs received: [[User:SPIKE/2012-RFC|2012]] [[User:SPIKE/2013-RFC|2013]] [[User:SPIKE/2014-RFC|2014]]
*[[User:SPIKE/Islam-10|Conversations in '10]] about the [[Islam]] article.
 
*[[User:SPIKE/2011|Conversations in '11]].
 
*[[User:SPIKE/Civics-12|Discussions of civics and politics in '12]].
 
*[[User:SPIKE/2012Kamek98|Discussions with]] {{U|Kamek98}}.
 
*[[User:SPIKE/2012|Other conversations in '12]].
 
 
==[[User:Kamek98/Lu Bu]]==
 
Is there a way to move [[Lu Bu]] to my userspace so I can make an article?--{{User:Kamek98/sig2}} 23:45, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Done. There were several references to it, which were double-redirects and now are broken. You have the power to return it to mainspace when ready. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:50 4-Jan-13</small>
 
:Jeezus, Eric, then you continue editing, re-creating it in mainspace! What is the point of asking me? You are on your own. Take one of the two pages to QVFD. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:59 4-Jan-13</small>
 
I wasn't expecting you to move it that quickly actually, haha. My bad, dude.--{{User:Kamek98/sig2}} 00:01, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Should I stay or continue on the new site? ==
 
I don't know which, maybe you can help me decide?--{{User:Kamek98/sig2}} 00:33, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Why would I help you decide? I view you as a budding politician rather than a technician--down to nominating me for numerous annual honors and immediately capering over to my talk page to try to extract maximum political benefit for your actions--and I believe that the more mature writers and admins--who don't view interaction with a corporation as ingestion of poison--are staying here. I encourage you to migrate to the "new" site and see how sucking up to the autocrats works for you. I think the first time the "new" site goes down for a week, and you get nothing but ridicule followed by a ban for "disruptive comments," you will become a somewhat wiser suck-up. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:41 5-Jan-13</small>
 
::I have never loathed you more than I do right now. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>02:37, Jan. 5, 2013</small>
 
:::If SPIKE doesn't want to migrate to "Boobiepedia", let him stay here. The new site might go down, hopefully not for a week, but it might just take off and become successful too. It is his choice after all, and his grouchiness (see above) and sarcastic humor might not be welcomed on the new site anyways. I plan to edit on both sites, in case this site starts censoring anything remotely offensive I'll go over there, and if that site goes down, I'll spend some time editing over here. It's not like I write major articles, unlike some. {{User:Simsilikesims/sig}} 04:11, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Spike!!==
 
You can get you name in lower case at the new site. I think you just sign up for an account, and then have someone transfer everything to the new account. I also intend to go between both of them, and maybe over there the drama could have a new start. Me and TFK are best of buds on the new site, he is the light of my life. You too, come by and we all can hang out there too. Pretty good energy there - but no search engine will reach it for quite awhile. [[user:Aleister|'''Al''']] 23:23 Uncy's 8th Birthday
 
:Who needs search engines when we have ''each other??!!!??!'' :) :) --{{User:Thekillerfroggy/sig}} 23:25, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
::True, so true. Spike may be up for a three-way, or more. I'm busy that day, but Socky, who doesn't want to put the boobs back on his user page, may be up for it. He's now gay, and that apparantly happened right at the transfer, like someone beaming up on Star Trek and getting his preferences scrambled in the transporter. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] minutes later
 
:::But there is an (inactive) account here as Spike (as well as SPIKE's first account, which I remembered welcoming and then getting thoroughly confused). If all the accounts have been ported over, the [[User:Spike]] should be there too.
 
:::And you're being naughty. How dare you criticise the new site! It's not as though people who were voted in as caretakers have now claimed ownership of a site that was never theirs to begin with! And given they are administrators on both sites whatever you do on the new site - or say about it here - is definitely not grounds for a ban. It had to do with your arrogance. I don't know where you get such behaviour - do you see any of the admins here being arrogant at all? {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:53 06 Jan}}
 
::::Ok I'd just like to clear up the misinformation here in case SPIKE is actually interested in getting his username changed on the new site. 1) All of the account information is there (edits, password, etc) but the account doesn't "exist" until that user logs in for the first time, so PotR's concerns about those other accounts are unfounded 2) DO NOT DO WHAT ALIESTER SAID, just sign in with your main account and request that somebody do a name change. Creating an account with the username you want will only make life harder for the person changing your username. Ok now that that's cleared up, carry on. -- {{User:Zombiebaron/sig}} 02:55, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::What are you on about, Aleister? O_o {{User:Sockpuppet of an unregistered user/sig4}}<small>''03:02, 6 January 2013''</small>
 
::::Oh. Zombiebaron is correct. Until someone logged in as “Spike” or created that user account, that account was only there ''in potentia''. As soon as someone goes over and creates and account using a user name from here - such as Chronarion, Stillwaters, Hardwick Fundlebuggy, etc., then they become that identity over there.
 
::::My apologies. Going back to previous statement, the account “Spike” '''now''' exists over there. Glad to see that the attribution there can't be manipulated at all. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|03:14 06 Jan}}
 
:::::I believe the reason you were allowed to create User:Spike was because it has no contributions. I just tried to create an account called Zombieminion and it told me it was in use. Also, thanks for mucking up SPIKE's name change on the new site. -- {{User:Zombiebaron/sig}} 03:21, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::::Just testing the capacity of the security. It appears that you're correct. I'm curious to see if any of my socks are still barred on the new site. Including those that had no contributions, but allowed me to send emails to other users. As for the name change - as soon as SPIKE asks for the password the account is his. (For obvious reasons I'm not going to publish it here.) It won't be the first time we've had a name change via account creation. If you want me to teach you how to then amend the attribution to the new account just let me know. Something I never thought of doing until Lyrithya told me it was possible and how it was done. (Probably a mistake on her part, in retrospect.) {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|03:32 06 Jan}}
 
:::::::Naw don't worry about it, I just renamed User:Spike to User:PuppyOnTheSpike. So there should be no problem giving SPIKE his name change. Thank for offering to help though! -- {{User:Zombiebaron/sig}} 03:35, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::::::I can't work out if that's an allusion to impaling, gay bestiality, or processed meat products. New site appears to be a success - done more edits there this year then I have here. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|04:08 06 Jan}}
 
:::::::::Yeah, the new site is rockin'! Did you hear TheLedBalloon is writing a new article there? -- {{User:Zombiebaron/sig}} 04:23, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Just to clear up the misinformation on the misinformation. The password is '''not''' on the new site until you enter it when logging in for the first time. Wikia doesn't give out passwords ever. You give it to the new site, an extension there verifies it by logging in as you here, and then creates the new account with that password. OK, now that that's cleared up, carry on. -- {{User:Sannse/Sig}} 05:01, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::::::::::I'm just getting ready to start a new article here TBH.
 
::::::::::Sannse: I understand that it's a hashing algorithm that's used to preserve password security. I'm assuming it's an MD5 hash. Lyrithya stated that given a database she'd be able to “hack” the password, but I doubt she'll have much luck doing that.
 
::::::::::ZB - Serious question: It's been stated that nothing done here will be moved to the new site, and vice versa. Given both sites are operating under NC-BY-CC-SA, any individual user can grab the content of a page and transpose it at the other site, as long as they comment during the transposition where it has come from, and that would be legally permissible. Obviously administrators can undo or delete these entries as a gesture of goodwill, but that's the choice of said administrator. Also any admin could, at any time, export and import a page from one to the other. We've never had a policy that restricts this in the past - both Al and Lyrithya have articles that are near identical here and on Illogicopedia. Are you going to “officially” add a restriction on porting content to the ignorable policies of the site? (While at the same time allowing users to happily modify their own articles on both sites?)
 
::::::::::As an adjunct to that, if a user has edited pages on one site, which has later had edits by another user, are you going to allow them to port them from one site to the other? (Or, to rephrase, if I rewrote a page here and then said “Can you import it?” would admins be willing to do that? Or would it be simply a given that intermediary edits may come across with content without proper attribution in page history?) {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|05:20 06 Jan}}
 
:::::::::::I'm not really sure what you are talking about. You seem to have misunderstood talk about the practicalities of moving the wiki for discussion of some kind of future policy change. What we meant when we said that we would stop moving things done here to the new site was that we were ceasing to copy ''all'' new edits. You can copy any material written on this site post-January 3rd to the new site (with proper attribution of course). -- {{User:Zombiebaron/sig}} 05:30, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Apparently this page isn't the village dump. Of course, each time I add content there I tend to be ignored or dismissed. Here there's an interesting discussion happening. But I understand some of the difficulties in migrating a fork - I seem to recall doing a similar thing myself. My question was on the policy aspect. In short, the policy is to have no policy - in which you reserve the right to take future edits from here and move them to your mirror. Which is pretty much the crux of what I was trying to understand. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|06:03 06 Jan}}
 
 
== Dear SPIKE ==
 
If you choose to stay on the Wikia site (or even decide never to contribute to either the new one or the old one again because of your conflict with TKF), I ''will'' miss working with you. You have a precision in editing that reminds me to be careful with my own crappy compositions, and I enjoy coming up with javascript hacks for you at the drop of a hat.
 
 
However, I will never forgive you for lumping me in with your description of "children with the Entitlement Mentality". Yes, I realize you didn't mention me by name, and you'll probably say "if you think I was referring to you, you fit the bill." However, unlike the rest of the "99%" generation, we didn't camp out in front of Wikia's swank lobby with protest signs, shouting and throwing feces at them as they passed. Well, we ''did'', metaphorically&#8212;but then we got off our asses and built our own server, so that we could run the site more freely than under our current corporate overlords.
 
 
Unless I'm mistaken, freedom of expression and an attitude of self-reliance aren't things reviled in the New Hampshire or America as a whole. I seem to recall reading a book about a group of entitled, whiny merchants and politicians who became pissed at a corporate entity around 200 years ago or so, and decided to strike out on their own. I can't recall for the life of me how that ended, but I also don't believe anyone has called [[wikipedia:Founding Fathers of the United States|them]] "entitled children" since Lord Fredrick North's time. Am I making an undue comparison between a successful revolution and a dispute between a poorly-run company and a bunch of failed comedy writers? Yes. Yes I am. And I stand by it.{{User:Bizzeebeever/signature|20130106055141}}
 
::BB, you'z a crazy revolutionary. I challenge you to a duel on the banks of the Potomac, be there at sunrise tomorrow and wait for me. As for Spike, I would hope all parties involved agree that it is a new start, that people will treat each other better at the new site, and that maybe that stuff on the voting page for WotY there be removed. Spike is one of our backbones (the second verterbrae I believe), does so many saves and helps new and veteran users, and he was a long way ahead in writing the most features in 2012 (the next closest, TKF, was three behind. That's like Secretariat running backwards and winning at the Belmont, which he did in fact). When Spike signs up at the new site I hope TKF and others slaughter the fatted calf and welcome him with open arms (and legs). [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 11:38 6-1-'13
 
:::I hope so too, IF Spike chooses to sign up at the new site, knowing him. Maybe its better to wait out this ban while the drama dies down, and the bugs on the new site get worked out. You didn't actually think everything would be running perfectly when it opened, did you? Nothing ever works out quite that well, unfortunately, knowing technology. Meanwhile, the username "Spike" is available on the new site, which seems to me to be a sign of goodwill. Please, Spike, do go check out the new site, even just to reserve your username and take a quick look around. As with any new site, there will be a measure of confusion and chaos but there's a bug report forum for that. The Batch Delete function also isn't working over there yet, so don't go over there just to request that all your stuff be deleted from mainspace (like a certain user did). A vote on that might be in the works. {{User:Simsilikesims/sig}} 22:27, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Spike will be able to speak for himself when he serves out the ban. I don't think any user can request to have their material deleted on those grounds. Articles can be selected for deletion on VFD but only the issues we are all aware of - i.e. not funny, not any good, town cruft etc etc. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 23:12, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::Actually any user can, but the administartion has chosen to not delete a user's body of work until a community consensus is reached relating to this issue, and until they have their batch delete working. Also, does Godwin's law also relate to the American fondling fathers? {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|11:18 06 Jan}}
 
::::::I guess they were the guys shut out from the original committee. Then there were the Foundling Fathers..the ones abandoned on a door step with the note 'I was going to expose my child to wild beasts on a mountain but this place looks as good as any other for that purpose.' --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 10:36, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==UnNews and how it is running==
 
 
Since my recent return, I have tried to figure out who is running UnNews at the moment. Unfortunately, noone seems to know who is in charge of what. I believe your still active with UnNews, correct? --{{User:Mnbvcxz/sig5}} 19:01, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Right now, I don't know as that is one of the issues to be decided this week. As you can see, Aleister and the others are posting stories on both wikis so it is really only a question about who organises the template. For now, I will oversee it. I will updating the UnNews template page today. Thanks. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 19:10, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
::My main concern was that someone was updating it here. Also, are you guys updating the featured article too? Because of the possible decrease in membership, keeping VFH running might get difficult. --{{User:Mnbvcxz/sig5}} 19:13, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Welcome back, Mnbvcxz! Mattsnow and GlobalTourniquet, in that order, were the last two to step up for full-service Editor-in-Chiefing, until their respective schedules changed. More recently, Matt lobster has juggled the feature lists. I was [[User:SPIKE/UnNews#Contributions|sporadically active]] this fall but the news has not gripped me with mirth since, say, last November 6. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>19:20 7-Jan-13</small>
 
::::I will do the juggling in the meantime until we decide who wants to look after that page in the next few days. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 19:25, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::And there is a new featured article for Tuesday. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 19:26, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Grand Rapids==
 
I just left the new building and saw that your Grand Rapids page is featured on its front porch. I think they left a light burning in the window there for you. Maybe I should nom one of my pages here, I don't know which are ready. Many are good, few are chosen. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 4:10 8-1-'13
 
:Sorry for the delayed response! Indeed, any records for Uncyclopedia in 2013 will have to have more asterisks than their counterparts in the 2013 miniature of the National Hockey League. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>03:46 9-Jan-13</small>
 
::Sans Asterix DeGaulle. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 10:27, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::You could become Asterix in Chains....--{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 10:28, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==[[UnNews:ACLU silent on gun control debate]]==
 
You are the first person from whom I would like to hear opinion on this. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>03:19, Jan. 12, 2013</small>
 
   
==[[UnNews:Facebook introduces ‘Nookie’]]==
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== Two things ==
Hey mate! I have pretty good one here. But if you can see any way to improve the first para or any part then please go for it. .... BTW: I really hope you're going to be Unnews editor again (like you were before the dickweeds created Prickipedia). Cheers!--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>16:07, Jan 16</small></small>
 
:For some reason, I jumped on this the moment it came up. The first paragraph did not read like news (Who? What? Where? When? How?) but as a sales brochure, a problem that persists in the use of the second person throughout. I have been over it with small tweaks and now a second Source regarding what the "Anal ysts" [sic] say about it.
 
:Now back to you: Your fake name Nookie is based on nothing. A better parody of "Graph Search", given your take on the news, would be "Grope Search". If you agree, do a global-replace and rename the article. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>16:34 16-Jan-13</small>
 
   
Hey, good work! On the name, I like Nookie, because of the play on Siri (who will never answer simple questions like "How big are your nipples?"). Lets keep the Nookie name. Cheers!--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>17:00, Jan 16</small></small>
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I know how much you enjoy it when I wrap two things into the one header on your talk page, so:
:You are the author, and thus I did not "be italic" on such a major change. But "Nookie" is a play on a related, incidental concept, whereas "Grope Search" would be a play on the news itself, which is preferable. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:12 16-Jan-13</small>
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# [[Uncyclopedia:Report a problem]] - there's a response to you
::You did a good job with the edit. But we're not going to mess it up with a name change. This is as much a play on Siri (a girl's name and voice) as it is on Facebook. ''Facebook introduces grope''?---fuck that dry impersonal BS! My concept is ''Nookie''. If you want to write another news with Grope - well, be my guest, that's all yours. Cheers--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>17:35, Jan 16</small></small>
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# Reading through [[:mw:Manual:$wgHiddenPrefs]] - this suggests that the inability to change/remove a real name on this site can be adjusted with a simple edit to the LocalSettings.php. Rather than arguing with Mira - as I'm annoyed again at the handball and lack of resolution - I thought I'd get you to re-read this and make sure it means what I think it means, and then I might ask Sannse to look into that change.
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Thoughts? {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|04:24 pm 26 Mar 2014}}
   
==[[Mutaween]]==
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:I am sorry you thought that is what I enjoy. What I really enjoy is wrapping one thing into one section header, which is so specific I can find stuff three months from now. I have already written a MediaWiki page to explain what [[Special:AncientPages]] displays; tell me if more is needed.
:''extracted from the start of the previous section''
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:As for $wgHiddenPrefs, after reading the sparse text in the MediaWiki manual, I don't really understand the issue any more than Mira does (like, why were you and Zana able to enter your full name once but are now unable to delete it?), but he seemed to accept my input that everyone's defaults should maximize privacy and he passed your request onto the Mobile engineers. Better than me rereading it and confirming that that is "what it means," which I cannot, it would be better to deal with someone at Wikia who knows "what it does." By all means contact Sannse. (As she always says, you cannot, but only use [[Special:Contact]], which you have already done.) {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>16:37 26-Mar-14</small>
We have a collab FA today with Mutaween, which is half yours. Cheers!--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>16:07, Jan 16</small></small>
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::Prior to MW v1.16ish, the default was to have an option in preferences for "real name (to be used for attribution)", but it never displayed on the site. At about MW v1.16 that option was removed, and Wikia took on the Oasis skin, where the option was added to the user page.
:The feature belongs entirely to you! I contributed one small section by way of a segue to a minor pun (and you may keep me in the article's Change History), but did not even vote for it for FA, stating that "I continue to believe that awareness-raising is getting in the way of humor." If I had tried to smooth over the article to solve this philosophical disagreement, it would be a true collab; as it is, you are entitled to one full point in the Hall of Shame. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:24 16-Jan-13</small>
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::Unfortunately the user database here is not the same as Wikia's global database. Which means when someone tries to add or remove details from their "Optional information" on their user page, it does nothing.
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::This option in local preferences adds the "real name" field back into user preferences, from what I can read from that mw page.
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::The issue is not with the mobile skin, as it also goes across to the Wikia skin - which means Mira's handball is going to do absolutely nothing. Which - incidentally - is the identical response to the issue with not being able to get to the full site on mobile devices issue that I raised last year, and it took three months to resolve.
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::The problem is the inability to adjust user preferences to be able to remove that information. There's no problem with it being displayed, but users '''must''' have the access to remove it. (As for me having my name displayed - I don't. Zana does, as does Colin "All your base" Heaney.) It impacts on any user who was here prior to mw v1.16ish, and who entered in that information - especially as it was never being displayed in the first place. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|05:30 pm 26 Mar 2014}}
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:As your bug report that I got a copy of went to a Mobile engineer and seemed even to me to be about Mobile, you should indeed file another one with the same amount of detail you gave above, and specify that it is not a Mobile bug. Do please name me or point to this page. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:34 26-Mar-14</small>
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::I've thrown it at Sannse via community Wikia. The reality is that users who have added their real name previously will probably still have that displayed until they remove it. I've asked that we actually have the means to add/remove real names though. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:07 am 29 Mar 2014}}
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:[http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:653606 Your bug report] looks clear to me, and I see Sannse has sent it on its way.... {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>01:14 29-Mar-14</small>
   
Thanks, mate! Much appreciated.--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>17:35, Jan 16</small></small>
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== Inadvertent ban of [[User:Anton199|Anton]]; [[David Cameron]]; user [[User:Lord Castabarus|Lord Castabarus]] ==
:Ah! you see, you were offering me half of that last cupcake because you wanted the whole thing all along. A pleasure doing business with you. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:37 16-Jan-13</small>
 
   
Hey, I'm always happy to share. Although, I forgot that you didn't vote for Mutaween. Yeah, not voting is a major disqualification on VFH. But, much thanks for the help. BTW: Have you ever written anything in the real world that was published? Cheers!--{{User:Funnybony/sig}} <small><small>17:49, Jan 16</small></small>
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I have looked through Anton's recent contributions and see nothing that resembles vandalism. Has there been a mistake in banning him for two weeks? Seperately [[User:Lord Castabarus]] who has done some decent editing (added a picture to [[David Cameron]] (which by the way is a very stereotypical article with lots of unoriginal humour - I might re-write when I get round to it)) has once again blanked his talk page. Maybe a stern final warning and some words of encouragement on his talk page for his work and future work would help to settle things down. I won't touch the talk page at the moment and let you take a course of action you desire. {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 20:45, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
:Yeah, "I oppose this article but will happily take half credit." Separately, that could be the most demeaning question since you wondered recently whether I had ever been on the other side of the county line. In fact, I have hundreds of published books, none with my name on them; those are always the terms of employment. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:57 16-Jan-13</small>
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:I have unblocked Anton, I have checked his contributions and deleted contributions and can't find anything meriting two weeks off. If there's a problem off wiki let me know. --{{User:ChiefjusticeDS/sig}} 21:07, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
::Spike, I've always wondered, and this is a good time to ask it, if you can chew gum and write at the same time. Not to insult you in any way, but can you tell time? How many quarts in a gallon, I'm thinking you might not know. Mares eat oats, and does eat oats, and little lambs eat ivy - a kid'll eat ivy too, wouldn't you? [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 23:54 16-1-'13
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::I did what? I'll look into this right now and compose the details of an apology! {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:44 28-Mar-14</small>
:::"Spike: I understand you try to seem smart and economically competent. You are not. You neither understand what I write, or have the capability to restate any position I take....You really should try and stick to your own points rather than ride my and other posters' coat tails. If only you understood economics and finance as well as you think you do....You really are one of the lightest posters on this board....You should run in your Primary. You're the best they've got!!!" --Someone else, today, a continent away on another blog. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:12 17-Jan-13</small>
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:::I had a look at the [[David Cameron]] article. Started a re-rewrite but seen that it needs a lot of work to remove old stuff pre-2010 and cut back on the lists at the end. I also checked the logs regards Anton. Perhaps Spike got confused with Lord Castabarus's IP anon comment? --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 21:47, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
::::You know that that fellow was being an ignorant dick. We, of course, are smart dicks. Here's what I did way earlier today/yesterday, but it would look better if you sign up as a member there - then you skip most of the ads and get to see the avatars of each poster and lots of other fun stuff. But today [http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread918494/pg1 I tried to create an urban legend], with maybe good results if anyone ever sees it. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleik''']] 00:19 17-1-'13
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::<s>In the morning I sifted through the Abuse Log and banned a bunch of spambots. At the time of this ban, I was reviewing new user {{U|BEJR2000}}, whom I ministered to with {{Tl|Oh Dear}} on his talk page as he was adding totally serious paragraphs plus links and photos to external humor, plus Rollback All, plus [[Special:Nuke]], the first one didn't seem to take. Presumably a very sloppy reading of the screen on my part Anton was cleaning up [[Radio]] just below in RecentChanges and I could have hit that. I have had fewer dealings with Anton than usual, and several very positive ones at the bottom of his talk page, which I'll now visit. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:53 28-Mar-14</small></s>
:::You have always been the most courteous leftie I deal with. Apart from a serious self-promotion Jones. Completely separately, please [[Forum:Reminder: Clear "Patrolled" flag]]. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:24 17-Jan-13</small>
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::In fact, a minor case of bad hand/eye coordination, described at [[User talk:Anton199]] along with my apology. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>02:05 29-Mar-14</small>
::::Thanks, I am left-handed, although actually ambridexteriously. I had thought that it cleared automatically on an undo but apparantly not, and on one of them I had to clear it and then go back and undo it. Is there an easier way? Have you ever tried ATS? You may like it, in fact knowing you [[Stranger in a Strange Land|as I do]] I think you would. Many people of your irk post there, raving and sounding intelligent and more economically competent by the minute. I just looked at the site without signing in and it's horrible, ads everywhere, even between every fourth or fifth post. Some people lurk for years and then sign in, I don't see how they could look at it or make out what's going on. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 00:33 17-1-'13
 
:::Rollback seems to clear it, but revert via Undo does not; it merely initializes an edit window in a particular way with a particular Change Summary. Separately, many of us do not have your allergy to advertisements. I am not presently looking for new forums to get irked by people of my "irk" [sic]. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:38 17-Jan-13</small>
 
::::A patrolled tag is removed:
 
::::#On an revert
 
::::#By clicking “Mark as patrolled” on the diff page (or on the page assuming it's a new page)
 
::::#By using BB's patrolling script
 
::::An undo won't remove it, but a revert won't allow you to give a reason for the undo, and can seem harsher when dealing with noobs writing with best intention but lack of skill. A decent scripter could probably create an “undo and patrol” tag/option, but that's beyond my capacity. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:04 17 Jan}}
 
:::::I apologise for ilking you. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:07 17 Jan}}
 
:::I am not even contemplating going on IRC to get irked by my irk. Thanks, this is how I thought the Patrol tag worked. I use Revert only on I.P.Anon, and liberally when they make lists listier or add memes or quotes, but users with names almost always deserve a Change Summary and often deserve contact via talk page. Ideally, Undo (when done by a trusted=Autopatrolled user and not by the vandal himself) should remove the Patrol tag, as someone has patrolled the change and responded via Undo (whether he reverts it or uses the edit window to go halfway). {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>02:17 17-Jan-13</small>
 
::::I also avoid the IRCsome corners of this site. And I agree, and was one of the things I was looking into a while ago - especially as a one click, type in rationale for undo, and submit type of thing - but I left here at a stage when nobody was actually bothering to patrol regularly. (Frosty excepted.) {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:50 17 Jan}}
 
==Headers are good==
 
Just a thought related to the skin we have here. At present we have this in the [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]
 
   
<source lang="css" style="background: #f5f5f5;">
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::In re Lord Castabarus, he has had three bans, the last by me for three months. He has ignored repeated warnings and indeed may have tried to pretend through blanking that they didn't happen. My next move would be a six-month ban in view of the previous one. However, there seems to be some character development going on here, as he has advanced from vandalizing the site to merely writing new paragraphs that aren't funny. I have given him your desired warning (which is plenty "stern" but won't be news) — Recommend some other Admin take a fresh look and decide if it's time for another ban. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>22:09 28-Mar-14</small>
/* comment boxes adapted from French Wikipedia.
 
Applied to Forum and stuck here because making the colours match the skin is annoying. */
 
.ns-110 dd {
 
margin: 0;
 
padding: 0;
 
}
 
.ns-110 dl {
 
border-top: solid 1px #BBBBBB;
 
border-left: solid 1px #BBBBBB;
 
padding-top: 0.5em;
 
padding-left: 0.5em;
 
margin-left: 1em;
 
}
 
.ns-110 dl { background-color: #F9F9F9; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl { background-color: #FFFFFF; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl { background-color: #F9F9F9; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl { background-color: #FFFFFF; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl dl { background-color: #F9F9F9; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl dl dl { background-color: #FFFFFF; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl dl dl dl { background-color: #F9F9F9; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl { background-color: #FFFFFF; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl { background-color: #F9F9F9; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl { background-color: #FFFFFF; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl { background-color: #F9F9F9; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl { background-color: #FFFFFF; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl { background-color: #F9F9F9; }
 
.ns-110 dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl dl { background-color: #FFFFFF; }
 
</source >
 
   
This exceedingly ugly piece of code allows us to have the "boxes" in the forums here. This - oddly - is completely different to what they have at Wikipedia, and doesn't relate to the vector skin at all.
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::Well, he saw the warning, reacted with more blanking and contempt, and I whacked him. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>01:02 29-Mar-14</small>
   
Also on [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] we have the following:
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:::I didn't realise he'd been banned 3 times before but thanks for giving him another warning. He certainly deserves this final ban. {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 06:27, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
<source lang="html4strict" style="background: #f5f5f5;">
 
* SEARCH
 
* community
 
** helppage|help
 
** portal-url|portal
 
** pump-url|pump
 
** irc-url|irc
 
** Uncyclopedia:Pee Review|Pee Review
 
** Uncyclopedia:VFH/summary|Votes for Highlight
 
** Uncyclopedia:VFP|Votes for Pictures
 
** signpost-url|signpost
 
** http://shop.uncyclomedia.co|E-store
 
** http://www.facebook.com/uncyclopedia|Facebook
 
** http://twitter.com/#!/uncyclopaedia|Twitter
 
** http://www.youtube.com/user/uncyclopaedia|YouTube
 
</source>
 
The final four of those items are off-site links - the first of which is a commercial entity that is now being used to raise funds for the fork, as far as I'm aware. (Assuming the $2.83 or so they raised can be considered as any form of significant income). All of these sites are also being used to direct readers back to the new fork.
 
   
The first is predominantly cosmetic issue. The second is probably more related to the external liks forum we were recently disucssing. Given my current status in some circles as the anti-uncyclo-christ, I'm loathe to do much more than raise this to the attention of other community members. Your perspective on this is probably along the same lines as mine. What action do you think would be advisable? {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|08:49 21 Jan}}
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::Done with regrets He was increasingly evidencing a sense of humor, but also that it would be subordinated to other agendas. Other Admins are free to revisit this if a better way occurs to them. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:53 30-Mar-14</small>
   
:Sorry for the delay; I looked at a change summary of this message once, and followed the link to common.css, but never saw the rest of your message until now. (And your darned signature doesn't display anything until one reads the source code; this is carrying Aleister's disdain for corporate life to extremes.) At one point there was an Uncyclopedia Store, with real UnNews coffee cups. The use of the very new <code>.co</code> domain is suspicious, as is the unusual spelling "uncyclopaedia" in the final two entries. I know some of the Forkers bragged about controlling the IRC channel and I know they view [[WP:Uncyclopedia]] as a battleground too. I would not be surprised if the final four links are controlled by the Fork as well.
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== {{tl|VFDn}} tweak ==
:If so, this is more theft by deception, against Wikia whose corporate efforts attracted readers to this site, and defrauds the reader, who never expects his mouse click will result in funds transferred to a privately owned parallel website with a copy of Uncyclopedia's articles. Further to our discussion on your talk page about the outrages of corporate life (against which the gripes of the Forkers are trivial): If you worked on the <code>.co</code> site, your paycheck would bounce. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:53 21-Jan-13</small>
 
::You really do fit the mold of '[http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Vulgar_libertarianism vulgar libertarianism]'. You take the side of a corporation over the aspirations of people who simply desire freedom and to profit over what is rightfully there's. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>04:03, Jan. 22, 2013</small>
 
:::''Comedy'' ain't supposed to be about the ''money'', man. --{{User:Thekillerfroggy/sig}} 04:30, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Well, I didn't say it ''was''. However, Spike is arguing about money, and I'm saying if merchandise profits should go to anyone, it should go to ''us'', not Wikia. On that note, most of our money will go to keeping the site up, so Spike is double-wrong. I like that. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>04:37, Jan. 22, 2013</small>
 
:::::And the phrase "outrages of corporate life" is just gold. Ain't no stoppin the Spike train! --{{User:Thekillerfroggy/sig}} 04:56, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::::This is SPIKE's talk page and not a common room to discuss him as if he was invisible. Thank you. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 08:38, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::Excuse me, but it is ''him'' who is ignoring ''us''. I assume it's because of bad blood. If you notice a few sections up, I asked him for his opinion on a news article more than a week ago and he never responded. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>09:45, Jan. 22, 2013</small>
 
::::::::Look further up the page Kip. If I had left a comment like that on your user page, would that encourage collaboration or an acknowledgement? --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 13:37, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::::::Are you referring ''"I have never loathed you.."'' comment? I said that in a moment of anger. His comment was a summary of my entire beef with him: He believes our forking was an autocratic exercise in immaturity, while in the same breath he downplays any of the oppression we've been through with the cold Wikia. Anything after this is childish misdirected rage, for which I sincerely apologize. {{User:Kip the Dip/sig}} <small>17:35, Jan. 22, 2013</small>
 
   
I love Stadtler and Waldorf. As for the date/time in my sig - I've set it up as a tooltip. (Hover over the date/time text.) Thank you for expressing an opinion when I asked you for an opinion. Much appreciated. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|10:10 22 Jan}}
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So I have a partial solution that I've been playing with at [[User:PuppyOnTheRadio/Test]]. The last header has images in it, rather than text links. That should resolve most of those issues. Let me know if that works as a solution for you, and if it does I'll tweak those header templates accordingly. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:56 am 29 Mar 2014}}
:Wa-hey! look at that! That is as subtle as double-clicking; truly "too clever by half." Regarding your first observation in this section: I am not at all attached to the boxes in the Forum--but neither at the notion that an exact superficial resemblance to Wikipedia is a key to our attempt to satirize them. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>15:22 22-Jan-13</small>
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:I can see it. (If I run with images enabled, which I usually don't, in which case I just see "Dot H".) Does that mean it's working? {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>02:03 29-Mar-14</small>
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:That fixed it. Now, the Hs seem to be below the baseline of the section heading (I presume because they are technically not part of the section heading, which was the goal), but I'm running with so many local tweaks that that might just be me. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>02:11 29-Mar-14</small>
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::That appears to be part of either your local tweaks, or because the image placeholder is too small to show the alt text so it drops it down slightly. Either way it means it's workable. I'll get to fixing these later today - hopefully. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:15 am 29 Mar 2014}}
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:::Done. I've removed the "archive", "add oldvfd" and "featured" buttons for now, just to make it simpler. This won't be fantastic for images off, but the links will work. I've also added comments into the rtemplates to make it a little easier to edit them if needed. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|08:37 am 29 Mar 2014}}
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:Your tutorial to {{U|Nick123}} is odd. You tell him that certain options are only for Admins and Poopsmiths, but he is in fact the Poopsmith (and they all get an odd day off). Meanwhile, your instruction on the templates seems to have some typos; nice that he smiled and thanked you anyway. PS, it is my turn to scold you as I am marking edits Patrolled that you already undid (two, with Change Summary "Who?"). It will be your turn to scold me again some time soon. Your VFD comment that the unfunny article I nominated had been funny before being vandalized is right; I have reverted it, as I should have done instead of nominating it. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>20:47 29-Mar-14</small>
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::It was more to let him know about the changes I'd made to the VFD stuff. Sorry about the patrolling stuff - initially meant to revert both of them, changed my mind, stuffed up one if the undos, and then hid in a cupboard in shame. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|12:20 am 30 Mar 2014}}
   
==In light of all the rocks and sticks being thrown at you...==
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== Share buttons ==
...I was wondering if you can cook? On a stone, or a stove, or an oven. Or do you use microwaves. Have you ever eaten out at a restaurant? Just wondering. [[user:Aleister|'''Al''']] 13:13 22-1-'13
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What I've been waiting for for ages has finally happened. It appears that Bizzeebeever has deleted the image he uses for the "share" option from the site it was hosted at. (Which is one of the concerns I had way back when he first created that gadget.) I'm thinking that as his gadget actually doesn't really display on screen properly, and causes issues when accessing the site from places where you can't access the third party sites he has linked to, it may be time to remove this from where it is at present and create a more visible selection of sharing icons at the base of the sidebar. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:15 am 29 Mar 2014}}
:Avoiding excess grease and sugar is now a higher value than bold new experiences, and a typical meal is nuked rice or couscous with one of those curry things stirred in. But there is a Chinese place (essentially a chippie) I often visit halfway to my favorite sports venue. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>15:22 22-Jan-13</small>
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:Not only that, but it enables the third-party site to collect information on the Uncyclopedian. I was reassured when Olipro(?) added social website options to the UnNews Front Page that they would not do a round trip to each of those websites. What would you like me to do? {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>02:18 29-Mar-14</small>
::Oh. This was meant, of course (for those in need of humor, I don't personally find anything funny) as a joke, but great, you're eating good. At times in my life I've been "off" sugar for years and on for years (when off of it maybe once or twice a year I'd eat sugar while getting high on some kind of herb, and they mix as a hallucinogen). Am currently no-sugared since Sept. 18. Rice, cous cous, ah, the feasts of life. For a non-sugar treat, have you had Rice Dream (ice cream without the cream). Doesn't sound like you're vegan, but in the past year Amy's has come out with a rice-crust pizza with soy cheese that actually melts. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 15:57 22-1-'13
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::For now we'd be best to remove it until we have a better system in place. I know that it was linked into the site js, but without being in front of a PC hard to narrow down where it sits. I can create "dumb" links to sites that don't do any sharing beyond the link itself - I used them for the share links on [[Microsoft Knowledge Base]]. I also noticed that it links via Uncyclopedia.org, and refers back to the EMC owned social network profiles.
::I like your new user page header. Sent you an email, in case you don't check those often. I seldom check my Al account, but do so after I write someone. The guy who's doing the band page is really good, I hope he sticks around to do at least one original page so he can see if he likes writing in this style. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 21:00 23-1-'13
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::Probably need to look more at social networking linking back here, but I haven't gotten to that bit yet. (And due to my time constraints I'm not the ideal person to try and manage these.) {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:53 am 29 Mar 2014}}
:Your email hasn't arrived yet; I poll every 10 minutes. I replied to you on his talk page, where I hopefully turned him over to you. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:04 23-Jan-13</small>
 
   
===[[HowTo:Become A Rapist]]===
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=== External links ===
Spike, you know what? The IP's edits on HowtoBecome a rapist are actually good, and I like the page a lot more after his edits. A lot. It shortened it, took out lots of the deadwood as well as parts the page both shouldn't be teaching ''and'' aren't that funny. I say we keep it as the IP edited it, and I'll see if any important links were deleted. Please take a look at the page when he got done with it and see what you think. But not now, all work and no play and that.[[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 3:25 24-1-'13
 
:I'll defer to you if you've actually looked at the result; I assumed it was just a blanker, perhaps a phone worker at a Rape Crisis Center on an evening when no one's calling in. It is a damned cold night to go out raping. By the way, your email never arrived. Good night. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>03:34 24-Jan-13</small>
 
::Probably a blanker, but they blanked the worse of it in terms of being too-far out there and trimmed the page back to a very good version as versions go, maybe unintentionally, which is the same as intentional when the intent is right. Not a bad job. Email, will look into it later. A long and interesting day in uncy history. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 3:42 24-1-'13
 
   
==[[User:Projectmayhem666/Thailand]]==
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*http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:LinkSearch?limit=500&offset=0&target=http%3A%2F%2Fen.uncyclopedia.co%2F (per [[#Bugs]])
Made a plan of action, hopefully will get around to it. Struggling to find time, and when I do I'm usually distracted and finding it hard to come up with anything funny. Will Peereview and see if what I write is better than what is already on there. {{User:Projectmayhem666/sig}}. 18:49, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
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*http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:LinkSearch?limit=500&offset=0&target=http%3A%2F%2F*.uncyclomedia.org (Per [[Forum:UnCommons domain suspended?]]
:OK. The biggest problems I see with the mainspace version is that the Fun Facts have gone out of control (as Fun Facts always do) and it could use more information for people unfamiliar with the local news, and less reliance on simple puns. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>19:02 24-Jan-13</small>
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*http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:LinkSearch?limit=500&offset=0&target=http%3A%2F%2F*.freenode.net (Per a previous conversation. Despite what it states it's not picking up <code>irc://</code> protocol - given that it was part of at least one user\s welcome greeting (as seen [[User talk:Dposer|here]].)
::It feels like an attack article that exists to insult the subject, rather than an article that is trying to be funny. --{{User:Mnbvcxz/sig5}} 12:45, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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**http://lmgtfy.com/?q=link%3Airc%3A%2F%2Fchat.freenode.net+site%3Auncyclopedia.wikia.com is slightly better.
:The mainspace article is not terribly good, but not entirely malevolent; there's also some not terribly good Randumbo. Hence the effort to rework it, which 666 has graciously accepted. {{U|Funnybony}} lives there and turned down this assignment. I think the place is an autocracy where anyone who knows enough to write a funny article is safer not doing so. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:52 27-Jan-13</small>
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{{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|09:13 am 29 Mar 2014}}
::I would agree with your reasoning. However, articles to attack to prove a point rather than be funny often don't off as funny. Thailand is in a relatively backwards part of the world, and is about on par, in terms of freedom, for the region. It sort of comes across like town-cruft, because there is nothing that sets apart Thailand, either real or imagined. An alternative similar article on Mubage or Kim Jong-un or even Vladimir Putin would work, simply because they are more notable. This one comes across, as a "same crap, different day" article. --{{User:Mnbvcxz/sig5}} 13:14, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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:Ah - I see what it has done to me now. try http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:LinkSearch?limit=500&offset=0&target=irc%3A%2F%2F*.freenode.net instead, {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|09:15 am 29 Mar 2014}}
:I hope Projectmayhem is following this and getting a sense of what needs to be done. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>13:38 27-Jan-13</small>
 
   
==Aleister chats up an IP==
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==Aleister==
The IP had a point on the Primitive Taliban page, I left him a note on his talk page. We're getting some pretty good IP's the last couple days. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 21:28 24-1-'13
 
:I too have been encouraged by the stream of new contributors. However, Aleister, if you are going to chat up IPs (other than to ask good ones to register), please investigate the context. This one is a few digits down from Template Spammer (thus probably the same guy), who started in again this morning after coming back from a 6-month ban and picking up right where he left off. I don't care if this particular blind squirrel found an acorn in your eyes, the reward of your attention could be disastrous. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:35 24-Jan-13</small>
 
:Alright. But I tried to tame him, and if he continues, yeah. Apologies, I didn't check into him but saw that he was trying to help on the Taliban USA page. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 21:43 24-1-'13
 
   
I am wrong, he is not the perma-banned Template Spammer. But I assume that 198.228.228.21 is an incarnation of 198.228.228.40 and 198.228.228.32, in other words ban evasion. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:46 24-Jan-13</small>
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I have restored the forum to BHOP and locked it so that it cannot be edited. 3 days seems a bit steep for venting his personal feelings on a forum. I'd like to request his block be shortened to two hours, that's more than sufficient time off for what is a very small offence. There's no codified link about talking about the fork and if we banned everyone who ranted about something in the forum we'd have no users left. Admins aren't immune to criticism, but telling Aleister that this isn't the place for it and locking the forum seems more appropriate in this case. I see entirely why you did it and what your intentions are, I'd just like to see the punishment better fit the crime. I'm not going to revert the ban if you disagree, but can we at least consider a reduction? --{{User:ChiefjusticeDS/sig}} 18:21, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
:Why don't we see if he signs up as a member and decides to respect people. Miracles happen. [[user:Aleister|'''Al''']] minute later
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:I agree, the forum should have been just locked as this isn't the place to moan about other admins elsewhere. It is what we did last year when those who left came back to create forums asking why people remained at this site. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 18:42, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
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::No problem in cutting the ban short. But I would have left the Forum deleted. We ought not let us become a favored destination for complaints on the administration of other websites, and if Forums like this invite counter-rants and retaliation, we cannot "lock down the debate," something we also saw last year. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>13:02 2-Apr-14</small>
   
I can't predict the future. But I can see that what he does, as the Template Spammer does too, is make a lot of annoying tweaks to a lot of unrelated pages. If he is the next Solzhenitzyn, I will admit error. But '''engaging him is an enormous reinforcement''' even if your amended engagement merely directs him to register, and being the source of a disagreement between two registered users is an even bigger reinforcement. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:52 24-Jan-13</small>
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== VFD ==
   
PS--I think you got your wish. You now have an adoptee! Append to [[User talk:Kirbyfan1996]] if you see fit. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:58 24-Jan-13</small>
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Could you do me a favour? When closing a nomination on VFD, could you add to the comments something along the lines of <code><nowiki>* Deleted ~~~~~</nowiki></code> (or kept/replaced, etc.), so I can keep track of when the 24 hours is up without having to check the log/page history? {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|09:28 am 02 Apr 2014}}
:Hmmmmmm. He's going to have to make a quick 260 on the respect level. We'll see. [[user:Aleister|'''Al''']] 22:09
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:The color-coded clock keeps track of the elapsed time of the nomination. I have been faithful in marking Change Summaries so they show what was done with which article, when. Is your goal to debug the templates or to ensure the rules are complied with? {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>13:02 2-Apr-14</small>
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::It's the "not archiving for 24 hours after deletion/closing" that I'm working on. At the moment I'm having to go back and check the history/logs to see when stuff happened. The clock shows time from nomination, but nothing indicates outcome. It also would make sense when digging through archives to know what was done when without digging. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:14 am 03 Apr 2014}}
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:As that rule depends on the fullness of VFD, we ought to leave this to the Poopsmith's discretion. If he should suddenly reappear. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>02:16 3-Apr-14</small>
   
===...and Kirbyfan1996 appears on the scene===
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== [[File:ClintonAristocratsGoneWild.png]] ==
   
Hi, I'm new to Uncyclopedia. Like really new. I literally just made my account about an hour ago. I'd like help understanding why I'm on thin ice for a large series of trivial edits to pages. Including this page, I have only "made my mark" on two pages. Nor have I ever done anything that would get me banned from a web community before. I may not be the funniest or most creative person out there, and I'd like help learning how to convey my more creative side. But I just want to understand the criticism.
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QVFD? {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|09:49 am 02 Apr 2014}}
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:This page, though potentially useful in a 2016 Hillary campaign, is used only in a personal porn cache and is labeled both "gross" and "NSFW." It's gone. Next time, you can take it straight to [[QVFD]]. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>13:02 2-Apr-14</small>
   
BTW, who's this Template Spammer guy? When I posted this on your talk page, I read the IP section just above it. If my computer's IP address is similar to your guy, it might be because I'm using InPrivate Browsing (I don't like cookies and other stuff from the Internet that automatically gets stored an causes problems as this is what happened to my last computer.) {{Unsigned|Kirbyfan1996}}
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==Hello==
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Thanks to Chief and Romartus for lessening my ban, but I felt it was justified and so took the whole thing. Spike, you were right, I did non-thinkingly and overtly criticize a couple of the wikia admins, and did so pretty blatantly, so I deserved three days in the hole. I still disagree about being banned for linking and talking about other sites, people do that all over the web and twice on Sunday, but I do agree about my rant spilling over to admins here. Felt great to get it off my chest though (GET IT OFF! GET IT OFF!), an unfairness occurred and I had to rant about it someplace. I spent some of my time really polishing up my Guidebook page, and damn, does it read good now if I don't say so myself, and will copy it here. Thanks for doing your hateful best to do your hateful duty, love ya man (hugs but no kisses). [[user:Aleister|Aleister]] 17:55 2-4-14
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:To go 'Aleisterical' ©{{u|Leverage}} as observed at the Fork. --{{User:Romartus/sig2}} 07:20, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
:So you've read my welcome to you on [[User talk:Kirbyfan1996]], and the previous section of this here page. Your registration as Kirbyfan followed a vandal attack by the guy I described to you. Aleister posted a message to him applauding one of his edits, I told him that was unwise, he edited the message to invite the vandal to register--and you turned up. If this is a gigantic case of mistaken identity--if you are saying above that this is literally your second edit to our wiki--then I am mistaken. (Even in that case, there is no harm in putting your best foot forward.) We are all here to help you be funny, and we can proceed on this talk page or yours, where I did give you one tip about your other edit. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:05 24-Jan-13</small>
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== [[:WP:Wikipedia:User scripts|Wikipedia:User scripts]] ==
   
:PS--It has nothing to do with your IP address; ordinary users like me can't see your IP address when you use a user name. It is the coincidence in time that made me suspicious. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:07 24-Jan-13</small>
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We were discussing scripting the other day. Although this doesn't give a solution to the watchlist thingy we were looking at, there may be some scripts in here that you could find useful. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:19 am 03 Apr 2014}}
   
:[Memo to self] The next day the Template Spammer returns, and makes a bee-line not for Kirby but [[Furby]]. I repeat my apology on Kirby's talk page. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>20:29 25-Jan-13</small>
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==[[:File:HETtuna.jpg]]==
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This was unused for about three years because a vandal from 2011 (whom Pup has just reverted) deleted an entire section from [[Political cartoon]], which contained that image. Could it be restored, please? {{User:Anton199/sig}} 11:31, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:Thanks! {{User:Anton199/sig}} 12:02, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::And thanks for picking up what I missed. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:03 pm 03 Apr 2014}}
   
:Photo of a [[Furby]] from Aleister seen, and deleted so I don't have to pay to load it again later, or see it again. Who do you think you are, "self]"? {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:01 27-Jan-13</small>
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== [[French]] ==
   
==Thanks from Robstew==
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Could you protect this page against IPs by any chance? It is a consistent target for receiving un-original French stereotype quotes from what I can only assume to be the same determined anonymous person. {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 08:07, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for the feedback. This being the internet, I expected something completely offensive and nonconstructive. Your advice wasn't any of these things, and for that I am most grateful. I will definitely keep your revisions in mind. As you can see, the subaru page is still a bit of a work in progress. After looking around, I found that a different page about subaru was deleted by an admin. Hopefully with a bit of time, mine won't be.--[[User:Robstew|Robstew]] ([[User talk:Robstew|talk]]) 03:02, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:You're welcome. Offensive and nonconstructive can also happen here; just above you see part of a debate about how to treat newcomers who don't register and who seem to be vandals. The weekend shift is undermanned at the moment because of the politics we all love, and those remaining are sometimes defensive.
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==Visual editor==
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Wow!....I think we've got Visual Editor, like Wikipedia! Have you seen that? {{User:Anton199/sig}} 11:42, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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:I know this was directed to Spike but for the wondering ordinary minstrel, what are you refering to specifically? {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 11:45, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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::I see it too (second line of buttons at the top of the page). I'll play with this the next time I am on unmetered Internet. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>11:53 9-Apr-14</small>
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:::<s>Sorry can't see them. Are we talking about the "edit", "ban patrol" etc. buttons?</s> {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 11:55, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Never mind just seen it! {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 12:00, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Nothing seems to happen when I click on it. Simply refreshes the page. {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 12:03, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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::Do you have Teh JavaScriptz switched on? It might even require Teh Flash. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:35 9-Apr-14</small>
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:::::::Visual editor seems to work only on mainspace pages (which is a rational thing, as it's supposed to make editing articles easier, without bothering with the wiki formatting), that's probably why you couldn't see it at the beginning. I clicked on it, but it takes a lot of time to load (Wikipedia's VisualEditor also does, so it's not different). If it works, you'll still see the page the way it looks like when it's saved and when you click on something and start editing, it'll just associate the changes directly to it. {{User:Anton199/sig}} 18:35, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
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::I too see no effect--nor the spinning wheel suggesting that additional stuff is loading. When I "click on something and start editing," I get the old-style edit box. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:54 9-Apr-14</small>
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:::OK, I haven't seen it work here (because of it cannot load) but I tried it once on Wikipedia and it's pretty much how it worked. Maybe it's a bug and they're still going to fix it. {{User:Anton199/sig}} 15:21, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
   
:You are also wise to contact me here: I had already concluded that you were in good hands and "unwatched" your talk page, meaning I would not have seen a message left there.
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== [[William Riker]] ==
   
:The edit {{U|Simsilikesims}} made to your article coincides with the list of comments I gave earlier. When writing, you must always decide who your reader is; here, it is a random person anywhere in the English-speaking world, notably the UK, Canada, and Australia. 2 out of 2 readers who cared to comment did not know who your auto-racer was; I am sorry to say it is just as bad for baseball stars. Recently I helped out on a new article on [[Rick Nash]] (the star of the hockey NY Rangers) by a butt-hurt Columbus Bluejackets fan, and someone else was ready to delete it as an article about a family member or something. A sentence with a summary of his accomplishments would help the reader relate to him (and you don't have to play that straight either).
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Hello spike,
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Regarding "I believe thumbnails with scaling or caption do not animate", please see the article [[Blue Screen of Death|"Blue Screen of Death"]] and the GIF "Data can never get past level 2". I used exactly the same code as that GIF (with the other image's dimensions of course, 290px) and it didn't animate. Have no idea why.
   
:Reading your talk page: You are perfectly free to abandon the article on "Subaru" in your userspace if you get a more promising idea. It was wise to look for other versions of Subaru--and, if you find them, study '''why''' they were deleted. (If it was by [[UN:VFD|vote]], read the debate. Also try my [[Rice burner]].) You can upload any content you produce, provided you agree that it can be used for any non-commercial use subject only to giving you credit; regarding photos you take with your phone, please confine any vanity to your user page, a small amount to introduce yourself to other editors, not a catalog of everything you've done on the Web. Happy editing! {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:01 27-Jan-13</small>
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Anyways, I think the still image the thumb is showing pretty much sums up what I want it to say anyway.
 
==Rule 2==
 
SPIKE,as a concerned American(WOO America!!!), I see you have deleted a lot of stuff. I don't think you are American.You are a Uncyclopedia Nazi(read Hitler). THIS , IS , AMERICA!!!! Idiot {{unsigned|Drfg|00:15, January 28, 2013}}
 
:As an idiot, you may have missed a few subtle points
 
:*This is not America
 
:*You started a discussion by invoking Godwin's rule
 
:*Spike cannot delete any pages. He can edit pages. This is done for quality control. ([http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=SPIKE A complete list] of every pages Spike has deleted.)
 
:*[[Hitler]] is a terrible article
 
:Pleasure to be of assistance. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|12:20 28 Jan}}
 
::PUPPY, as a concerned Fiji Islander(WOO Fiji Islands!!!), I see you have berated Drfg and stuff. I don't think you are Fiji Islander.You are a Uncyclopedia Nazi(read Goebbels). THIS, IS, FIJI ISLANDS!!!! Idiot [[user:Aleister|'''unsigned''']] 00:15, January 28. 2013
 
   
Deleting is editing ,jackass.same to you on the nazi part.from reading your article you are a puppy fucker. {{Unsigned|Drfg}}
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Regards,
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Ihasakitler 09:06, April 10, 2014 (UTC) :)
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:It's the way wiki parses images. If an image is resized wiki software converts it from the server end to a png type file - which means with animated GIFs you only get the first frame. If the original image size is 320px width (for example), the displayed size needs to also be 320px.
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:So if you want the file to be displayed at 280px, you need to locally save the file, and use an editor like GIMP or Photoshop (not MS Paint) to resize it with all frames intact, and then re-upload the edited file, and then add it to your page.
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:The problem there, of course, is that resizing will lose some of the image quality. Because stupid computers are stupid. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|09:43 am 10 Apr 2014}}
   
:::I think the edit in question is to [[Car]], where Drfg added the bit in italics: "In 1879, Karl Benz patented his engine, allowing him to make the first car.''He immediately regretted it and became a hippie.''" With no space following the previous sentence. We regard this addition as Randumbo and deserving of deletion. I had also seen your edit to your own user page, to-wit: "DRFG ROCKS!!!!!!! EVERY ELSE IS AN FUCKING RETARDED IDIOT,HA HA!!!!!!!!!EVERYONE ON THIS SITE HAS A SMALL DICK OR A PUSSY THAT SMELL LIKE RETARDED FISH." And to [[Talk:Onion]], I quote: "Say something about how onion smell like ass." In brief, I did not expect quality edits from you and the one I deleted was not one. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:40 28-Jan-13</small>
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== Where's Puppy? ==
::::Yes, I do fuck puppies, but that is [[Bestiality|a lifestyle choice]]. Anyway, to be serious, and I don't know the issues involved, why don't you pick a couple of your favorite edits that you are talking about and present your case in nice tones and with a hand of friendship extended, like an adult would (you can still have the other hand unextended and holding a stone-age knife, like I do). Then some of your edit, a word or two, can maybe go wherever it is you guys are talking about. Thanks, and if you calm the fuck down you can find a lot of good and creative people here who can give you a healthy learning curve. But what will probably happen is you will ignore my advice, get banned, and that will be that. Try to stick around, yes? [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 00:42 28-1-'13
 
:::''May we vote?'' (Incidentally, you would be amazed how little of the time it works to tell someone to "calm the fuck down.") {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:47 28-Jan-13</small>
 
::::We must try though. I have never calmed the fuck down when requested to, but miracles do happen (I just saw a Drew Barrymore film "Big Miracle", a pretty good movie), [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister calmed the fuck down''']] 00:52
 
:::::Spike is right. ''Chill the fuck out'' is much more effective. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|03:14 28 Jan}}
 
   
== [[Content warning]] ==
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So that you know what's going on, I'm doing stuff on other Wikia wikis at the moment - most of it with some transferable value back to here. It means my edits are likely to be even less regular than they are now, but method and madness, etc.
   
I thought I'd said this in the past but I might as well say it now. I like content warnings when done the right way. One of the best examples of this is the content warning on South Park. It's a very quick warning and shows a distinct lack of respect for the fact that it needs a warning. That splash of irreverence actually drew me into the show. I also recall that the Naked Gun series had a few gems in their end credits along these lines, and even Michael Jackson's ''Thriller'' referred to "...resemblance to any persons living, dead, or undead..."
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What you may not be aware of - a significant number of wikis use user talk pages in a very different fashion. Instead of responding to a thread on the page that it was started on, users respond back on the original poster's page. Which means that if you read a single page you won't understand the conversation. Like listening to half of a phone call. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:12 pm 10 Apr 2014}} 13:12, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
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:Oh, most definitely that will be done. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:12 pm 10 Apr 2014}}
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::I'm not too sure how legal it was. Aparently the laws relating to bestiality differ from state to state. The raw meat was a concern for me though. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:12 pm 10 Apr 2014}}
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:::Only on Tuesdays, and you have to book in advance. She accepts Paypal though. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:12 pm 10 Apr 2014}}
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::::So now you understand what I mean about confusing now. The way we use talk pages makes much more sense. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:12 pm 10 Apr 2014}}
   
Would I run the site without one if possible - yes. If we're going to have one would I make it as much of an indication of the site as possible? Absolutely.
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Thanks for checking in. That would be the Wikia "message wall" or whatever they call it? I religiously pick up requests for help from newbies and move them (and the inevitable reply) to the newbie's own talk page. With luck, you noticed my post in the middle of your talk page that the Watchgadget bug is solved, and might never have affected any other Uncyclopedian in the first place. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>14:38 10-Apr-14</small>
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:Message Walls are different again. They are used more like how we do User Talk here. As for moving stuff to newbies talk pages - only time that becomes problematic is using IP talk pages. I had a message on [[WP:]] when I wasn't logged in, telling me they'd reverted my edits to an article. Finally reałised dynamic IP address, so the message wasn't for me. At the same time, the intended recipient is now unlikely to ever see it, as the message banner won't show. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|02:55 pm 10 Apr 2014}}
   
As for the issues you're having with viewing - the images off shouldn't make an impact (and if they do they'll make an impact here but not when the content warning actually is in place - that uses real background html.) But let me know what issues you're having. I've tested across a few browsers and resolutions, but I'm aware that there's a chance I missed something. If it's in your CSS that's killing it, then that's a non-issue. Your site CSS shouldn't kick in until the content warning is dismissed. (Effectively it'll be fine once you've logged in.) {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|12:12 30 Jan}}
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== Yaks in Canada ==
   
:I don't expect to prevail; but as the question is raised in a new place, I gave my opinion again. The whimsical approach is way too much about what we think about ourselves and not about the decision the reader has to make. On the CSS, almost all of my CSS is in <code>userContent</code> on my PC and thus takes effect for anything Uncyclopedia displays. But again, even when I disable my CSS, without images the text is light-light-light-gray on white. And disabling images should disable all downloads of images, whether through <code>[File:...]</code> or as a background image. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:47 30-Jan-13</small>
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There is a great debate going on in my head right now. I remember how we voted down [[That time I nearly took a sojourn to Canada while I was being raped by a yak]] at VFD and remember my reasons for voting to delete it. At the same time, I remember that it was the most original and maybe even the most worthy My sojourn that was deleted. But then I remember that six people voted against it. At the same time, the discussion took place before I started [[UnBooks:My sojourn]], and the outcome could be different if it was now.
::Isn't what we think about ourselves the same as what we want the reader to think about us? The choice is pink and kittens or scary lightning and Oscar Wilde. I myself loath and fear to come here, but here I am nonetheless. Almost time to eat, so I must be off to the races. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 12:54
 
:I will definitely pick navel-gazing over irrelevance (kittens), but I'd rather play it straight to a newcomer. Separately, I had a nice diced-ham-and-cheese vindaloo recently (sauce from a bottle, of course). Yesterday it was a loaf of bread dipped in pie filling. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>12:57 30-Jan-13</small>
 
::Code talk. Al, block your ears. The way I've put together the page is a bastardisation of background image, which means the option of background image OR dark blue colour doesn't quite work. If I could add the image into the CSS for the div then that would work. Having said that part of my hack meant that you should have most of the text on a dark blue background anyway. The fact that you don't bugs me. I'll give it another kick and see if it helps. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:17 30 Jan}}
 
:::Ah - my bad. I took out a background colour on my “behind” div while experimenting and forgot to reinstate it. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:22 30 Jan}}
 
   
:That fix got 'er done. Aleister, meanwhile, has blocked not only his ears but his mouth, see above. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>13:27 30-Jan-13</small>
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And I forgot what the article actually looked like, so I don't know what do. Could you please help, by looking at the article and saying if it could survive in the UnBooks and possibly make it better, or if it's simply not funny, no matter where it is and even with possible polishing? {{User:Anton199/sig}} 15:09, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
Enjoy the silence. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|01:30 30 Jan}}
 
   
== VFS ==
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:I think you meant to write, "I remember...my reasons for '''[[Uncyclopedia:Votes_for_deletion/Archive276|nominating it]]'''." If the purpose of your Book is to be funny, rather than a forensic re-creation of a previous frat party at Uncyclopedia where the same exact articles have to appear and contain some of the same text that was typed originally, you might spend the same time writing a new chapter that is even more original and worthy. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>15:55 14-Apr-14</small>
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::Funny - I <s>haven't</s> ''hadn't'' read this message until now but still wrote [[That time I was attacked by my step-son during my sojourn in Peloponnese|a new chapter]], which I hope is original and worthy! {{User:Anton199/sig}} 16:41, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:The deleted article, apart from a "15-foot yak cock" (which offers nice alliteration but no humor) is indistinguishable from one of the ones you have up on VFD, and can't hold a candle to your "Peloponnesia," which braids erudition around its randomness. PS--Another thing I wouldn't waste time on is dealing with 'bot Fnoodle's tagging of articles for using deprecated tags. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>17:15 14-Apr-14</small>
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::Why not? I read that if a tag is deprecated, it is probable that it soon won't work on some browsers. {{User:Anton199/sig}} 17:27, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I read the yak sojourn you mention Anton, and it's maybe one of only ones I've ever laughed at. Quite clever, actually, and I would have voted a keep on that one. Although the first caption needs the formula mark-up (as does your new addition, which is quite pleasing to the intellect and may gain favor for your book. a book which needs a cover!) [[user:Aleister|Aleister]] 18:25 14-4-14
   
I see you're leading, if you get oppage. Congratulations.--{{User:Kamek98/sig2}} 21:51, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
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== [[Accountant]] ==
   
== ThePartTimeGroucho ==
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Congratulations for the save and feature Spike. To have an original article on accountants is something Uncyclopedia can feel proud of. I was thinking of writing a [[Scottish Independence Campaign]] article to cover the events leading up to the Scottish referendum in 2014. To think that by the end of this year we Brits might be facing a huge change in how we perceive our state (as complicated as it is already) is something I am dreading, especially as an exiled Scot. I think its better to write it up in one big article rather than countless UnNews that I have thought of writing on the subject. Also I'll get round to [[Ed Miliband|Mr. Miliband's]] article at some point too. {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 18:17, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:At some point in researching one of my India articles, I read about India's tendency to react to any civil uprising by creating new states or shifting their boundaries. As your country and mine were organized by pre-existing states with distinct identities, the current news in Scotland is more disturbing than, say, shifting the border between Chihuahua and Coahuila, Mexico. Will persons like you be offered the "right of return"? {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>18:42 14-Apr-14</small>
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:PS--I would spike [[UnSignpost:Article/Does_Uncyclopedia_need_more_admins?]]. Not only is the current vote -1 toward a goal of 5, but the deadline for that phase of voting passed four days ago. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>18:46 14-Apr-14</small>
   
Hi you keep undoing all my changes. and ill admit, the one about the black people was pretty stupid. However, the changes to the Washington state page were very funny in my opinion, and I don't understand why you reverted them.
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Yes it is rather disturbing. The loss of the British identity is most distressing especially for someone like me who is from all over the British Isles. The nations of Scotland and England don't really exist in my view and the view of the majority of people who live in the South East of England, being economic migrants from different places within Britain and the rest of the World, the identity of an "Englishman" is certainly the nomenclature for a white person who is from a particular county/region of England. If Scotland breaks off the word British can still be used but we won't be politically united so we'll have to broaden the meaning of "Englishman". Anyway how Salmond can pull of the trick without any sensible economic ideas is ridiculous. The "No" campaign have everything in favour of them, the last two Prime Ministers were Scottish, Scotland will be financially unstable, Scotland will lose the high up diplomatic position that Britain currently has etc. All we need now is someone who can actually argue back at Salmond because there seems to be no figurehead for the campaign against.
   
:I explained that one on [[User talk:ThePartTimeGroucho|your user page]]. In fact, after reverting your first three edits, I sought the intervention of one of the site's Admins, and two other non-Admins have intervened with helpful tips to you. For starters, everything you type is not automatically funny; you need something in mind, some plan for making the reader laugh. More so when it tweaks issues of black-versus-white. Especially when you change something inside brackets, which is the name of an article that exists, to something that doesn't exist, or write "compton" and I'd have to go in and capitalize it anyway, it's easier to undo the change if it isn't funny, and these so far haven't been. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:41 31-Jan-13</small>
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As for the UnSignpost article consider it, as usual, late news. It makes people aware of the situation if people don't know and also points out an absurd factor behind the idea of wanting more admins. {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 19:38, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
==Forum==
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== VFS April ==
Since no admin is around, do you know how to get into a locked forum code? "Funnybony has 40 features" is the name, and I want to copy the start of it on some other site where Funnybony has just gotten his 40th. Thanks. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 00:49 31-1-'13
 
   
:It's editable to me. Even when it is "locked" there is a '''View source''' button where '''Edit''' should be. You always have access to the code. Separately, that is not the name. If you want to cite a page, cite it correctly--better yet, link to it so I don't have to use our horrible search feature. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:56 31-Jan-13</small>
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Can you close the vote as "Did not pass round 1", and delete the vote (with link to prev version in history)? Keeps getting added to, and I would prefer that people realise we're post 10th day. Would do it myself, but time poor. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|10:07 pm 14 Apr 2014}}
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:Remanded to the Chief Justice, who did so. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>19:52 16-Apr-14</small>
   
My view doesn't have the view source, but I'll look again. On another topic, you know, with all the idiots and bots and things floating around, we should really just admin all four people - even Puppy who really doesn't want it, and Simi who I don't know what the big fuss is about her because I haven't seen her help out here very much since the move. But how about we make a push to admin all four of you, so the ban button could be in other people's hands when no admin is on-site. [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 1:00 31-1-'13
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== Hello ==
   
:Puppy and I have both stated that we would be happy with whatever the Chief Justice decides. Simsie is mostly at the Fork and Mn-z is mostly happily creating content, but I think they wouldn't object either. "We" are not going to make a push, as I am not going to make a push to change the rules in the middle of the game. But you are welcome to give your opinion to the Chief. For the record, if I had the ban button tonight, you would still be stinging, edit-conflicting me twice on my own talk page so you could respond to Groucho before I could and continue passing yourself off as a Negro to lay a guilt trip on him. Just 10 minutes so I could get horrible T-Mobile to turn my post around. It is taking nearly a minute tonight. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>01:09 31-Jan-13</small>
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And I am sorry for my long absence! I am back and will start doing the poopsmithing again. Sorry, technical problems didn't allow me to drop by. {{User:Nick123/sig}} 23:55, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
::Passing myself off as a negro? Well my good sir, my good sir!! And I got that thing done, thanks for opening it. [[user:Aleister|'''Ol Black Betty''']] 1:18 31-1-'13
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:Sounds good! If "technical problems" permit, let us know in advance of future long absences! Nothing that needs your attention right now. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:11 16-Apr-14</small>
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::It was internet failure, just so you know. It will not happen again, I assure you. {{User:Nick123/sig}} 00:15, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
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:'''''The internet will not fail again???''''' You had better write an [[UnNews]]! Are you sure you are in Greece? It sounds like Turkey!!! {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>00:19 16-Apr-14</small>
   
Groucho, meanwhile, is in again. I comment on his talk page, but will leave it to one of youse to give him the deserved revert if you agree. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>01:21 31-Jan-13</small>
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== [[Gaza War]] ==
   
==[[Great Library of Alexandria]]==
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I found there wasn't too much to re-write on the article. I gave a satirically biased towards Israel article and rather emphasised the common sense options to resolve the situation. Might need some more humour though. My views on the subject are quite strong and I fear that in some areas they burst through a bit but were not smothered with enough comedy. Please take a look and add where you can. Thanks! {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 19:32, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
The page is looking and reading really good. I knew it would be a saveable article, with all your work on it it's a classic of the (library) genre. I just saw an IP edit dogs, which reminded me I wanted to polish that page and make it better than it has a right to be. Alright IP! [[user:Aleister|'''Aleist''']] 23:29 1-2-'13
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:I looked in and groaned when I saw you were trying to give the historical background for the war. Jews versus Arabs should be regarded as one of those cases for which, as I recommend in [[CoW#Extremists]], you should steer wide of your own views and of common-sense (that is, real-world) resolution, in favor of more fanciful and absurd interpretations, even randomness. To the point, even a "satirically biased" article is perceived by half of its target audience as not satirical at all. Read [[User talk:Mctomerd11]] for an example. In particular, Adolf Hitler does not belong anywhere near this article: Too serious. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>19:52 16-Apr-14</small>
:Um, yes. He removed one excess space, then added, and I quote, "Dogs are cool." Rolled back. Library is unbegun except to show what I would do with it: blur concepts of primitivity together, incompatibly, with the US capital district. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>23:45 1-Feb-13</small>
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::Oh I see what you mean. I guess that's a more original take. Might try a re-write of my re-write then tomorrow or sometime soon. Going to sleep now though! {{User:ScottPat/sig3}} 20:00, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
::But dogs are cool! At least the bigger ones. I'm actually helping to raise another wolf (80%, the rest german shepard and there's speculation some coyote got in there somewhere), he just celebrated his 1st birthday and is a gamer. Are you going to continue on the Library? Is it open to play on it with you? [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 1:00 2-2-'13
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:I looked in closer just now. The final section ('''Aftermath''') gives me the strong impression someone is trying to sell me one side in a political dispute. I can force myself to see that you are writing with irony, but I cannot separate it from the serious. In particular, there is a question we ought not try to answer on this website — whether the economic differences between Israel and Gaza are the result of racism or of culture — and any informed reader scours even a frivolous or ironic approach to the question to decide which side the author is on.
:The veracity of his statement was never in question; only the funniness. Yeah, go play in the Library. I hope you preserve the style of dryly getting all the facts wrong, unless you have something brilliant in mind. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>01:07 2-Feb-13</small>
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:I hope all this doesn't give you nightmares! {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>20:06 16-Apr-14</small>
::No, nothing in mind. Thanks, I'd like to collab with you on such an auspicious page. I'll play on it sometime this weekend, today my time here is running short and I am "runnning long for the pass" - to quote Randy Moss, the self-styled best receiver in American football history (at least one of the top five). [[user:Aleister|'''Aleister''']] 1:11 2-2-'13
 

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edit Two things

I know how much you enjoy it when I wrap two things into the one header on your talk page, so:

  1. Uncyclopedia:Report a problem - there's a response to you
  2. Reading through mw:Manual:$wgHiddenPrefs - this suggests that the inability to change/remove a real name on this site can be adjusted with a simple edit to the LocalSettings.php. Rather than arguing with Mira - as I'm annoyed again at the handball and lack of resolution - I thought I'd get you to re-read this and make sure it means what I think it means, and then I might ask Sannse to look into that change.

Thoughts?                               Puppy's talk page04:24 pm 26 Mar 2014

I am sorry you thought that is what I enjoy. What I really enjoy is wrapping one thing into one section header, which is so specific I can find stuff three months from now. I have already written a MediaWiki page to explain what Special:AncientPages displays; tell me if more is needed.
As for $wgHiddenPrefs, after reading the sparse text in the MediaWiki manual, I don't really understand the issue any more than Mira does (like, why were you and Zana able to enter your full name once but are now unable to delete it?), but he seemed to accept my input that everyone's defaults should maximize privacy and he passed your request onto the Mobile engineers. Better than me rereading it and confirming that that is "what it means," which I cannot, it would be better to deal with someone at Wikia who knows "what it does." By all means contact Sannse. (As she always says, you cannot, but only use Special:Contact, which you have already done.) Spıke ¬ 16:37 26-Mar-14
Prior to MW v1.16ish, the default was to have an option in preferences for "real name (to be used for attribution)", but it never displayed on the site. At about MW v1.16 that option was removed, and Wikia took on the Oasis skin, where the option was added to the user page.
Unfortunately the user database here is not the same as Wikia's global database. Which means when someone tries to add or remove details from their "Optional information" on their user page, it does nothing.
This option in local preferences adds the "real name" field back into user preferences, from what I can read from that mw page.
The issue is not with the mobile skin, as it also goes across to the Wikia skin - which means Mira's handball is going to do absolutely nothing. Which - incidentally - is the identical response to the issue with not being able to get to the full site on mobile devices issue that I raised last year, and it took three months to resolve.
The problem is the inability to adjust user preferences to be able to remove that information. There's no problem with it being displayed, but users must have the access to remove it. (As for me having my name displayed - I don't. Zana does, as does Colin "All your base" Heaney.) It impacts on any user who was here prior to mw v1.16ish, and who entered in that information - especially as it was never being displayed in the first place.                               Puppy's talk page05:30 pm 26 Mar 2014
As your bug report that I got a copy of went to a Mobile engineer and seemed even to me to be about Mobile, you should indeed file another one with the same amount of detail you gave above, and specify that it is not a Mobile bug. Do please name me or point to this page. Spıke ¬ 17:34 26-Mar-14
I've thrown it at Sannse via community Wikia. The reality is that users who have added their real name previously will probably still have that displayed until they remove it. I've asked that we actually have the means to add/remove real names though.                               Puppy's talk page01:07 am 29 Mar 2014
Your bug report looks clear to me, and I see Sannse has sent it on its way.... Spıke ¬ 01:14 29-Mar-14

edit Inadvertent ban of Anton; David Cameron; user Lord Castabarus

I have looked through Anton's recent contributions and see nothing that resembles vandalism. Has there been a mistake in banning him for two weeks? Seperately User:Lord Castabarus who has done some decent editing (added a picture to David Cameron (which by the way is a very stereotypical article with lots of unoriginal humour - I might re-write when I get round to it)) has once again blanked his talk page. Maybe a stern final warning and some words of encouragement on his talk page for his work and future work would help to settle things down. I won't touch the talk page at the moment and let you take a course of action you desire. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:45, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

I have unblocked Anton, I have checked his contributions and deleted contributions and can't find anything meriting two weeks off. If there's a problem off wiki let me know. --ChiefjusticePS2 21:07, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
I did what? I'll look into this right now and compose the details of an apology! Spıke ¬ 21:44 28-Mar-14
I had a look at the David Cameron article. Started a re-rewrite but seen that it needs a lot of work to remove old stuff pre-2010 and cut back on the lists at the end. I also checked the logs regards Anton. Perhaps Spike got confused with Lord Castabarus's IP anon comment? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:47, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
In the morning I sifted through the Abuse Log and banned a bunch of spambots. At the time of this ban, I was reviewing new user BEJR2000, whom I ministered to with {{Oh Dear}} on his talk page as he was adding totally serious paragraphs plus links and photos to external humor, plus Rollback All, plus Special:Nuke, the first one didn't seem to take. Presumably a very sloppy reading of the screen on my part — Anton was cleaning up Radio just below in RecentChanges and I could have hit that. I have had fewer dealings with Anton than usual, and several very positive ones at the bottom of his talk page, which I'll now visit. Spıke ¬ 21:53 28-Mar-14
In fact, a minor case of bad hand/eye coordination, described at User talk:Anton199 along with my apology. Spıke ¬ 02:05 29-Mar-14
In re Lord Castabarus, he has had three bans, the last by me for three months. He has ignored repeated warnings and indeed may have tried to pretend through blanking that they didn't happen. My next move would be a six-month ban in view of the previous one. However, there seems to be some character development going on here, as he has advanced from vandalizing the site to merely writing new paragraphs that aren't funny. I have given him your desired warning (which is plenty "stern" but won't be news) — Recommend some other Admin take a fresh look and decide if it's time for another ban. Spıke ¬ 22:09 28-Mar-14
Well, he saw the warning, reacted with more blanking and contempt, and I whacked him. Spıke ¬ 01:02 29-Mar-14
I didn't realise he'd been banned 3 times before but thanks for giving him another warning. He certainly deserves this final ban. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:27, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
Done with regrets — He was increasingly evidencing a sense of humor, but also that it would be subordinated to other agendas. Other Admins are free to revisit this if a better way occurs to them. Spıke ¬ 12:53 30-Mar-14

edit {{VFDn}} tweak

So I have a partial solution that I've been playing with at User:PuppyOnTheRadio/Test. The last header has images in it, rather than text links. That should resolve most of those issues. Let me know if that works as a solution for you, and if it does I'll tweak those header templates accordingly.                               Puppy's talk page01:56 am 29 Mar 2014

I can see it. (If I run with images enabled, which I usually don't, in which case I just see "Dot H".) Does that mean it's working? Spıke ¬ 02:03 29-Mar-14
That fixed it. Now, the Hs seem to be below the baseline of the section heading (I presume because they are technically not part of the section heading, which was the goal), but I'm running with so many local tweaks that that might just be me. Spıke ¬ 02:11 29-Mar-14
That appears to be part of either your local tweaks, or because the image placeholder is too small to show the alt text so it drops it down slightly. Either way it means it's workable. I'll get to fixing these later today - hopefully.                               Puppy's talk page02:15 am 29 Mar 2014
Done. I've removed the "archive", "add oldvfd" and "featured" buttons for now, just to make it simpler. This won't be fantastic for images off, but the links will work. I've also added comments into the rtemplates to make it a little easier to edit them if needed.                               Puppy's talk page08:37 am 29 Mar 2014

Your tutorial to Nick123 is odd. You tell him that certain options are only for Admins and Poopsmiths, but he is in fact the Poopsmith (and they all get an odd day off). Meanwhile, your instruction on the templates seems to have some typos; nice that he smiled and thanked you anyway. PS, it is my turn to scold you as I am marking edits Patrolled that you already undid (two, with Change Summary "Who?"). It will be your turn to scold me again some time soon. Your VFD comment that the unfunny article I nominated had been funny before being vandalized is right; I have reverted it, as I should have done instead of nominating it. Spıke ¬ 20:47 29-Mar-14
It was more to let him know about the changes I'd made to the VFD stuff. Sorry about the patrolling stuff - initially meant to revert both of them, changed my mind, stuffed up one if the undos, and then hid in a cupboard in shame.                               Puppy's talk page12:20 am 30 Mar 2014

edit Share buttons

What I've been waiting for for ages has finally happened. It appears that Bizzeebeever has deleted the image he uses for the "share" option from the site it was hosted at. (Which is one of the concerns I had way back when he first created that gadget.) I'm thinking that as his gadget actually doesn't really display on screen properly, and causes issues when accessing the site from places where you can't access the third party sites he has linked to, it may be time to remove this from where it is at present and create a more visible selection of sharing icons at the base of the sidebar.                               Puppy's talk page02:15 am 29 Mar 2014

Not only that, but it enables the third-party site to collect information on the Uncyclopedian. I was reassured when Olipro(?) added social website options to the UnNews Front Page that they would not do a round trip to each of those websites. What would you like me to do? Spıke ¬ 02:18 29-Mar-14
For now we'd be best to remove it until we have a better system in place. I know that it was linked into the site js, but without being in front of a PC hard to narrow down where it sits. I can create "dumb" links to sites that don't do any sharing beyond the link itself - I used them for the share links on Microsoft Knowledge Base. I also noticed that it links via Uncyclopedia.org, and refers back to the EMC owned social network profiles.
Probably need to look more at social networking linking back here, but I haven't gotten to that bit yet. (And due to my time constraints I'm not the ideal person to try and manage these.)                               Puppy's talk page02:53 am 29 Mar 2014

edit External links

                              Puppy's talk page09:13 am 29 Mar 2014

Ah - I see what it has done to me now. try http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:LinkSearch?limit=500&offset=0&target=irc%3A%2F%2F*.freenode.net instead,                               Puppy's talk page09:15 am 29 Mar 2014

edit Aleister

I have restored the forum to BHOP and locked it so that it cannot be edited. 3 days seems a bit steep for venting his personal feelings on a forum. I'd like to request his block be shortened to two hours, that's more than sufficient time off for what is a very small offence. There's no codified link about talking about the fork and if we banned everyone who ranted about something in the forum we'd have no users left. Admins aren't immune to criticism, but telling Aleister that this isn't the place for it and locking the forum seems more appropriate in this case. I see entirely why you did it and what your intentions are, I'd just like to see the punishment better fit the crime. I'm not going to revert the ban if you disagree, but can we at least consider a reduction? --ChiefjusticePS2 18:21, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

I agree, the forum should have been just locked as this isn't the place to moan about other admins elsewhere. It is what we did last year when those who left came back to create forums asking why people remained at this site. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:42, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
No problem in cutting the ban short. But I would have left the Forum deleted. We ought not let us become a favored destination for complaints on the administration of other websites, and if Forums like this invite counter-rants and retaliation, we cannot "lock down the debate," something we also saw last year. Spıke ¬ 13:02 2-Apr-14

edit VFD

Could you do me a favour? When closing a nomination on VFD, could you add to the comments something along the lines of * Deleted ~~~~~ (or kept/replaced, etc.), so I can keep track of when the 24 hours is up without having to check the log/page history?                               Puppy's talk page09:28 am 02 Apr 2014

The color-coded clock keeps track of the elapsed time of the nomination. I have been faithful in marking Change Summaries so they show what was done with which article, when. Is your goal to debug the templates or to ensure the rules are complied with? Spıke ¬ 13:02 2-Apr-14
It's the "not archiving for 24 hours after deletion/closing" that I'm working on. At the moment I'm having to go back and check the history/logs to see when stuff happened. The clock shows time from nomination, but nothing indicates outcome. It also would make sense when digging through archives to know what was done when without digging.                               Puppy's talk page02:14 am 03 Apr 2014
As that rule depends on the fullness of VFD, we ought to leave this to the Poopsmith's discretion. If he should suddenly reappear. Spıke ¬ 02:16 3-Apr-14

edit File:ClintonAristocratsGoneWild.png

QVFD?                               Puppy's talk page09:49 am 02 Apr 2014

This page, though potentially useful in a 2016 Hillary campaign, is used only in a personal porn cache and is labeled both "gross" and "NSFW." It's gone. Next time, you can take it straight to QVFD. Spıke ¬ 13:02 2-Apr-14

edit Hello

Thanks to Chief and Romartus for lessening my ban, but I felt it was justified and so took the whole thing. Spike, you were right, I did non-thinkingly and overtly criticize a couple of the wikia admins, and did so pretty blatantly, so I deserved three days in the hole. I still disagree about being banned for linking and talking about other sites, people do that all over the web and twice on Sunday, but I do agree about my rant spilling over to admins here. Felt great to get it off my chest though (GET IT OFF! GET IT OFF!), an unfairness occurred and I had to rant about it someplace. I spent some of my time really polishing up my Guidebook page, and damn, does it read good now if I don't say so myself, and will copy it here. Thanks for doing your hateful best to do your hateful duty, love ya man (hugs but no kisses). Aleister 17:55 2-4-14

To go 'Aleisterical' ©Leverage as observed at the Fork. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 07:20, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

edit Wikipedia:User scripts

We were discussing scripting the other day. Although this doesn't give a solution to the watchlist thingy we were looking at, there may be some scripts in here that you could find useful.                               Puppy's talk page02:19 am 03 Apr 2014

edit File:HETtuna.jpg

This was unused for about three years because a vandal from 2011 (whom Pup has just reverted) deleted an entire section from Political cartoon, which contained that image. Could it be restored, please? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 11:31, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 12:02, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
And thanks for picking up what I missed.                               Puppy's talk page01:03 pm 03 Apr 2014

edit French

Could you protect this page against IPs by any chance? It is a consistent target for receiving un-original French stereotype quotes from what I can only assume to be the same determined anonymous person. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:07, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

edit Visual editor

Wow!....I think we've got Visual Editor, like Wikipedia! Have you seen that? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 11:42, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

I know this was directed to Spike but for the wondering ordinary minstrel, what are you refering to specifically? Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 11:45, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
I see it too (second line of buttons at the top of the page). I'll play with this the next time I am on unmetered Internet. Spıke ¬ 11:53 9-Apr-14
Sorry can't see them. Are we talking about the "edit", "ban patrol" etc. buttons? Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 11:55, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
Never mind just seen it! Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 12:00, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
Nothing seems to happen when I click on it. Simply refreshes the page. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 12:03, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
Do you have Teh JavaScriptz switched on? It might even require Teh Flash. Spıke ¬ 12:35 9-Apr-14
Visual editor seems to work only on mainspace pages (which is a rational thing, as it's supposed to make editing articles easier, without bothering with the wiki formatting), that's probably why you couldn't see it at the beginning. I clicked on it, but it takes a lot of time to load (Wikipedia's VisualEditor also does, so it's not different). If it works, you'll still see the page the way it looks like when it's saved and when you click on something and start editing, it'll just associate the changes directly to it. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 18:35, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
I too see no effect--nor the spinning wheel suggesting that additional stuff is loading. When I "click on something and start editing," I get the old-style edit box. Spıke ¬ 23:54 9-Apr-14
OK, I haven't seen it work here (because of it cannot load) but I tried it once on Wikipedia and it's pretty much how it worked. Maybe it's a bug and they're still going to fix it. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 15:21, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

edit William Riker

Hello spike, Regarding "I believe thumbnails with scaling or caption do not animate", please see the article "Blue Screen of Death" and the GIF "Data can never get past level 2". I used exactly the same code as that GIF (with the other image's dimensions of course, 290px) and it didn't animate. Have no idea why.

Anyways, I think the still image the thumb is showing pretty much sums up what I want it to say anyway.

Regards, Ihasakitler 09:06, April 10, 2014 (UTC)  :)

It's the way wiki parses images. If an image is resized wiki software converts it from the server end to a png type file - which means with animated GIFs you only get the first frame. If the original image size is 320px width (for example), the displayed size needs to also be 320px.
So if you want the file to be displayed at 280px, you need to locally save the file, and use an editor like GIMP or Photoshop (not MS Paint) to resize it with all frames intact, and then re-upload the edited file, and then add it to your page.
The problem there, of course, is that resizing will lose some of the image quality. Because stupid computers are stupid.                               Puppy's talk page09:43 am 10 Apr 2014

edit Where's Puppy?

So that you know what's going on, I'm doing stuff on other Wikia wikis at the moment - most of it with some transferable value back to here. It means my edits are likely to be even less regular than they are now, but method and madness, etc.

What you may not be aware of - a significant number of wikis use user talk pages in a very different fashion. Instead of responding to a thread on the page that it was started on, users respond back on the original poster's page. Which means that if you read a single page you won't understand the conversation. Like listening to half of a phone call.                               Puppy's talk page01:12 pm 10 Apr 2014 13:12, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, most definitely that will be done.                               Puppy's talk page01:12 pm 10 Apr 2014
I'm not too sure how legal it was. Aparently the laws relating to bestiality differ from state to state. The raw meat was a concern for me though.                               Puppy's talk page01:12 pm 10 Apr 2014
Only on Tuesdays, and you have to book in advance. She accepts Paypal though.                               Puppy's talk page01:12 pm 10 Apr 2014
So now you understand what I mean about confusing now. The way we use talk pages makes much more sense.                               Puppy's talk page01:12 pm 10 Apr 2014

Thanks for checking in. That would be the Wikia "message wall" or whatever they call it? I religiously pick up requests for help from newbies and move them (and the inevitable reply) to the newbie's own talk page. With luck, you noticed my post in the middle of your talk page that the Watchgadget bug is solved, and might never have affected any other Uncyclopedian in the first place. Spıke ¬ 14:38 10-Apr-14

Message Walls are different again. They are used more like how we do User Talk here. As for moving stuff to newbies talk pages - only time that becomes problematic is using IP talk pages. I had a message on WP: when I wasn't logged in, telling me they'd reverted my edits to an article. Finally reałised dynamic IP address, so the message wasn't for me. At the same time, the intended recipient is now unlikely to ever see it, as the message banner won't show.                               Puppy's talk page02:55 pm 10 Apr 2014

edit Yaks in Canada

There is a great debate going on in my head right now. I remember how we voted down That time I nearly took a sojourn to Canada while I was being raped by a yak at VFD and remember my reasons for voting to delete it. At the same time, I remember that it was the most original and maybe even the most worthy My sojourn that was deleted. But then I remember that six people voted against it. At the same time, the discussion took place before I started UnBooks:My sojourn, and the outcome could be different if it was now.

And I forgot what the article actually looked like, so I don't know what do. Could you please help, by looking at the article and saying if it could survive in the UnBooks and possibly make it better, or if it's simply not funny, no matter where it is and even with possible polishing? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 15:09, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

I think you meant to write, "I remember...my reasons for nominating it." If the purpose of your Book is to be funny, rather than a forensic re-creation of a previous frat party at Uncyclopedia where the same exact articles have to appear and contain some of the same text that was typed originally, you might spend the same time writing a new chapter that is even more original and worthy. Spıke ¬ 15:55 14-Apr-14
Funny - I haven't hadn't read this message until now but still wrote a new chapter, which I hope is original and worthy! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 16:41, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
The deleted article, apart from a "15-foot yak cock" (which offers nice alliteration but no humor) is indistinguishable from one of the ones you have up on VFD, and can't hold a candle to your "Peloponnesia," which braids erudition around its randomness. PS--Another thing I wouldn't waste time on is dealing with 'bot Fnoodle's tagging of articles for using deprecated tags. Spıke ¬ 17:15 14-Apr-14
Why not? I read that if a tag is deprecated, it is probable that it soon won't work on some browsers. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 17:27, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
I read the yak sojourn you mention Anton, and it's maybe one of only ones I've ever laughed at. Quite clever, actually, and I would have voted a keep on that one. Although the first caption needs the formula mark-up (as does your new addition, which is quite pleasing to the intellect and may gain favor for your book. a book which needs a cover!) Aleister 18:25 14-4-14

edit Accountant

Congratulations for the save and feature Spike. To have an original article on accountants is something Uncyclopedia can feel proud of. I was thinking of writing a Scottish Independence Campaign article to cover the events leading up to the Scottish referendum in 2014. To think that by the end of this year we Brits might be facing a huge change in how we perceive our state (as complicated as it is already) is something I am dreading, especially as an exiled Scot. I think its better to write it up in one big article rather than countless UnNews that I have thought of writing on the subject. Also I'll get round to Mr. Miliband's article at some point too. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:17, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

At some point in researching one of my India articles, I read about India's tendency to react to any civil uprising by creating new states or shifting their boundaries. As your country and mine were organized by pre-existing states with distinct identities, the current news in Scotland is more disturbing than, say, shifting the border between Chihuahua and Coahuila, Mexico. Will persons like you be offered the "right of return"? Spıke ¬ 18:42 14-Apr-14
PS--I would spike UnSignpost:Article/Does_Uncyclopedia_need_more_admins?. Not only is the current vote -1 toward a goal of 5, but the deadline for that phase of voting passed four days ago. Spıke ¬ 18:46 14-Apr-14

Yes it is rather disturbing. The loss of the British identity is most distressing especially for someone like me who is from all over the British Isles. The nations of Scotland and England don't really exist in my view and the view of the majority of people who live in the South East of England, being economic migrants from different places within Britain and the rest of the World, the identity of an "Englishman" is certainly the nomenclature for a white person who is from a particular county/region of England. If Scotland breaks off the word British can still be used but we won't be politically united so we'll have to broaden the meaning of "Englishman". Anyway how Salmond can pull of the trick without any sensible economic ideas is ridiculous. The "No" campaign have everything in favour of them, the last two Prime Ministers were Scottish, Scotland will be financially unstable, Scotland will lose the high up diplomatic position that Britain currently has etc. All we need now is someone who can actually argue back at Salmond because there seems to be no figurehead for the campaign against.

As for the UnSignpost article consider it, as usual, late news. It makes people aware of the situation if people don't know and also points out an absurd factor behind the idea of wanting more admins. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:38, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

edit VFS April

Can you close the vote as "Did not pass round 1", and delete the vote (with link to prev version in history)? Keeps getting added to, and I would prefer that people realise we're post 10th day. Would do it myself, but time poor.                               Puppy's talk page10:07 pm 14 Apr 2014

Remanded to the Chief Justice, who did so. Spıke ¬ 19:52 16-Apr-14

edit Hello

And I am sorry for my long absence! I am back and will start doing the poopsmithing again. Sorry, technical problems didn't allow me to drop by. Compassrose-transparent Bro. Nicholas 23:55, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good! If "technical problems" permit, let us know in advance of future long absences! Nothing that needs your attention right now. Spıke ¬ 00:11 16-Apr-14
It was internet failure, just so you know. It will not happen again, I assure you. Compassrose-transparent Bro. Nicholas 00:15, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
The internet will not fail again??? You had better write an UnNews! Are you sure you are in Greece? It sounds like Turkey!!! Spıke ¬ 00:19 16-Apr-14

edit Gaza War

I found there wasn't too much to re-write on the article. I gave a satirically biased towards Israel article and rather emphasised the common sense options to resolve the situation. Might need some more humour though. My views on the subject are quite strong and I fear that in some areas they burst through a bit but were not smothered with enough comedy. Please take a look and add where you can. Thanks! Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:32, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

I looked in and groaned when I saw you were trying to give the historical background for the war. Jews versus Arabs should be regarded as one of those cases for which, as I recommend in CoW#Extremists, you should steer wide of your own views and of common-sense (that is, real-world) resolution, in favor of more fanciful and absurd interpretations, even randomness. To the point, even a "satirically biased" article is perceived by half of its target audience as not satirical at all. Read User talk:Mctomerd11 for an example. In particular, Adolf Hitler does not belong anywhere near this article: Too serious. Spıke ¬ 19:52 16-Apr-14
Oh I see what you mean. I guess that's a more original take. Might try a re-write of my re-write then tomorrow or sometime soon. Going to sleep now though! Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:00, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
I looked in closer just now. The final section (Aftermath) gives me the strong impression someone is trying to sell me one side in a political dispute. I can force myself to see that you are writing with irony, but I cannot separate it from the serious. In particular, there is a question we ought not try to answer on this website — whether the economic differences between Israel and Gaza are the result of racism or of culture — and any informed reader scours even a frivolous or ironic approach to the question to decide which side the author is on.
I hope all this doesn't give you nightmares! Spıke ¬ 20:06 16-Apr-14
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