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Lincoln-mic
I will now sing the Gettysburg Address.

Rabbit Below

Don't mind if I do. Spıke ¬ 15:25 22-Jan-13

User:New user 22-Jan-2013 1801

There were a spate of these, a couple weeks ago, but they didn't start "New user" but "test account" or some such. They seemed to cite Central European Time. I have never seen these users actually do anything. Spıke ¬ 18:05 22-Jan-13

Possible spammer. I will block the IP address. Thanks. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:13, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Again, I don't think there has been actual spam. If I had to guess, it is a kid in a computer class with a test program (or a prototype virus) attempting automated account registration. A block is appropriate; if you can check to see if this IP has created other accounts, it will solve the other riddle. Cheers. Spıke ¬ 18:24 22-Jan-13

Lifting of UnNews stories

There is something on TKF's page from Mnbzz. Our UnNews stories are being lifted from here to the other site without notification or the permission of the author. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:27, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

I saw that. Legally, under CC-BY, our stories are not "ours" and can be copied for any non-commercial use. (For proof that the resulting use is non-commercial, I assume we take the word of Fork management, including the one who seems to have tapped into Wikia's traffic flow for third-party gain.) It is more annoying, as with Hack writer, when the Fork does not lift our stories until our VFH finishes vetting them. The Mother Ship cannot survive by having a monopoly on our best content, as we agree it will be given away before we write it. We survive because Wikia is well-capitalized, whereas the Fork is just another American business racing toward the end of its seed funding with nothing but certainty that the world will instantly see its inventory of free stuff as worth paying for. Spıke ¬ 18:43 22-Jan-13
PS--Sannse proposes a Sidebar edit at Forum:Links to the other wiki in the sidebar that only an Admin can do. Spıke ¬ 18:50 22-Jan-13
Let the record show that I did not support any migration bot, for the sake of ethics towards authors and good-spirited competition. -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 18:52, Jan. 22, 2013
They don't need permission, or even notification, but rather, proper attribution. I personally don't even care that much that they took it. Rather, I just find it funny that the site containing "the community" needs to steal articles from "empty" evil-Wikia site. --Mn-z 18:56, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Your gloating, IT STINGS! -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 19:03, Jan. 22, 2013
Since you here Kip, I will ask you this question. Would you be happy if some programme decides pull your articles into another website without attribution or indeed consent. A long time ago when I didn't understand how wikis worked, I saw an article by Todd Lyons on Uncyclopedia. I had supplied him with some extra lines and he had accepted it. He then re-posted the same story to Illogicopedia - but without my additions. I thought his work had been stolen but he explained he had put it on that site but had removed my extra sections. That was then how I understood how this wiki thing worked. But there is also a matter of good faith and telling writers 'we want you to write for our site but if your stuff is no good, we'll just take what ever SPIKE or myself has written on theirs with this bot. All the work I have done before the split is now at the Fork - and I accept that. But anything created here is my decision about where I want to put it next. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 19:35, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Obvious sexual innuendo aside, I agree with your sentiment. Although TKF is apparently trying to remedy the authorship issue by giving proper attributions on the talk pages. Still, my beef is the principle of taking things from the Wikia version the begin with. It makes us at Free Uncyclopedia (if you will) look petty and lazy. -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 19:47, Jan. 22, 2013
I disagree with Romartus's interpretation. Where there is no ownership, there is no control. You are entitled to attribution--by your name remaining in the Change History--but not to make demands on them, such as that they don't change your stuff or even not pervert your creative goal in writing it. Articles begun tomorrow are subject to the same thing. Our work is worth every penny we agreed not to demand when we submitted the stuff. And I can view it with a personal copy of Mozilla, on which I rip out the code for the Juice Bar or whatever it's called, and recompile it and give you a copy. The interesting question is still: Can you sustain a website around content of no commercial value? I claim that Wikia can, and Acme Wiki cannot. Spıke ¬ 19:53 22-Jan-13
I would agree with Spike, the issue isn't article control, which we surrender by the Creative Common license, but proper attribution. It seems like TKF is adding attribution (of sorts) to articles. I'm not sure if a talk page comment would satisfy the attribution requirements, but I don't know off hand. --Mn-z 20:03, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
By the way, a wiki that provided the added-value of ensuring that all your reads were good reads (say, Acme Wiki after Mega Forest Fire Week '13) still doesn't survive, as it doesn't gain readers faster than it loses authors. Spıke ¬ 20:05 22-Jan-13
I do understand that an article submitted to this Wikia hosted site cannot be claimed with 'author's rights'. That is why I gave you Todd Lyons as an example. He didn't have to remove my material to put his story elsewhere, but he did nevertheless. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Attribution is important, of course, and the site probably understands that. It seems most of the sites articles are all being written and nommed by Sir Peesalot. I've been moving all my UnNews pages there, and will do so with pages too, but am writing them and polishing them and putting them here first (since I'm doing most of the writing here, both because it feels good here, the energy has picked up again and quite a few of the good users are here, and because of the in-page link fixture). On that topic, does anyone know when we lost the in-page File feature, where you could schroll down the pics and little images of them would show up so you could choose which one you wanted? I always used that, and now it's gone (is it because each of the files has been renamed "Image - Cow tipping.jpg" in that format and not in the old "File:Jesus stubbing his toe.PNEG" format? Thanks. Aleister 20:19 22-1-'13
There has been so much strange activity on this site of late...I don't know is the answer. Ask a 'techie'. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:30, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
With the above, I was only talking about the ownership rights under CC-BY as I understand them. Romartus, you might be talking about additional restrictions imposed by Wikia against a community member misusing the work of another community member, about which I know nothing. User names are common throughout Wikia (except here) and that is why a History entry is sufficient attribution, something that is not true from us to the Fork, which is not bound to respect our usernames, hence the talk-page text. Spıke ¬ 20:58 22-Jan-13

UPDATE: The knuckleheads on IRC got off the topic of stripper pole exercising long enough for me to bring it up, prompting RAHB to take action by infinibanning TheBorrower bot and deleting the exported UnNews articles. The issue is as good as over. -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 21:00, Jan. 22, 2013

Seems fair. My talk page attribution was a bit of a stopgap. I hate deleting quality content anywhere, and there's definitely been things sporked from external blogs and such in the past (when attribution was given and it wasn't taken from, say, a commercial joint like the Onion), but it definitely would have been irky if that was allowed to keep going. Seriously, let's just keep these two places separate. --Littleboyonly TKFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Oldmanonly 21:04, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Thank you TKF, Kip and RAHB. Then for me this matter has been resolved and I appreciate that it has stopped. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:09, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
I for one, would have preferred that Free Uncyclopedia kept the article stealing going a bit longer. I found it both amusing and ego-stroking. --Mn-z 14:12, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

No Bullying, Please

You may be a star here, but you do not have the right to harass other contributors on their pages. If you visit my page again with abusive comments, I reserve the right to take appropriate action. Thank you. Heenan73 (talk) 21:09, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

That was Leverage's story on the other Uncyclopedia. You put it here as your own without attribution. That violates the Unwritten Code (Starter Pack 2.1). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Romartus, I worked with this author yesterday on the development of the UnNews. I don't know where he got the concept, but it is based on actual news in the British press, we usually welcome multiple articles on a single topic, and I think that most of his material is original. It was originally not an UnNews at all but an addition to Tesco which I saw come in. Please review User talk:Heenan73. Spıke ¬ 21:22 22-Jan-13
Separately, Heenan73, there is no "appropriate action" because, as we have been discussing on this page, no one owns anything. This website is currently undergoing an exodus of some of its authors to a parallel site and is unusually suspicious about copying content. Spıke ¬ 21:23 22-Jan-13
I have apologised to Heenan73 on his talk page. I guess it was a bit of bad luck for him to walk in the room when I was 'bot' and 'sock' hunting. I had hoped not to have reached the Paranoia stage quite yet after a year but I guess it can get to all admins. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:59, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
You think that's bad? I thought Guildenstern and GlobalTourniquet were socks of each other for over a year. --Littleboyonly TKFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Oldmanonly 22:00, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
A demonstration of Why I Got Those Froggy Blues would have resolved it. And the beard. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:03, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Feature nommmmmed

I feature nommed one of your roman emperor pages I came across in Random page (I was trying to leave Spike's talk page, which always takes a Random page or some other hit to get out of, the luck of the draw). Just feature them all, is what I say, and up the intelligence of our total feature collection by 20 IQ points. Aleister FreeZanaMovement'13

Why

Why did you block Aimsplode for one week stating that you are restoring an original block of 3 days by ChiefjusticeDS when Chief unblocked Aimsplode himself? Madclaw @ talk 01:02, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Aimsplode's nomination was stricken from the page for all the reasons explained by Chief. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 08:51, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
That still does not answer my question, I asked you why you blocked him after Chief himself unblocked him. Madclaw @ talk 14:16, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
THe Chief was off-line so I re-imposed the longer ban when I checked what was going on VFS. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 14:39, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

talk VFS

I noticed you have removed a discussion between Mnbvcxz and myself, from what I have read no one has "inflamed" me and you have in fact removed a perfectly normal discussion about policy and wiki coding. Removing civil interactions between users strikes me as a bit odd especially when done by an administrator. It would behoove you to put the discussion back. Thank you in advance and have a nice day Madclaw talk 16:56, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

In Romartus's defense, our discussion had very little to do with VFS. Also, Romartus did contradict some of what I said about linking to other wikis in sigs. Spike said no, I said yes, Romartus said maybe. I remember sigs that linked to other wikis in the past, but I'm not up do date on Wikia's current policies, so I could be wrong. --Mn-z 17:02, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
I checked the history of the VFS talk page...I didn't remove your comment. I added mine about the inflame/sig issue. Regards the Sig issue, spammers etc do that all the time 'come to easyfit kitchens etc' which counts as a commercial - or one linking with a porn site or some cyberbullying page. You said your site is non-wikia. It's a question I will check with Sannse. She can let us know the situation. I will link her to this conversation. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:07, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
You did remove a large chunk of conversation as seen when you scroll down after clicking this link Madclaw talk 17:11, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Ok thanks. Reverted. Don't know what happened there. Blame Wikia? (seems a popular sport). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:20, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Blame Wikia, works for me Madclaw talk 17:27, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

I've seen a couple of cases where the edit conflict detection doesn't kick in correctly.. I'll get someone to do some testing and see if he can reproduce it -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 18:41, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

!!!!!!PENISPENISPENIS!!!!!!

By deleting this, you have as good as put a curse on this Uncyclopedia. -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 20:45, Jan. 24, 2013

Aha...Kip lad....lend me that crossbow...I see an albatross in the rigging....--LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:01, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

That image…

…at the top of your talk page. I'm now imagining Lincoln singing “Cocaine blues” at Folsom.                               Puppy's talk page10:04 24 Jan

Now that would be an idea. I would imagine the Gettysburg Address sung to the tune of Clapton's 'Cocaine'. One song sang to the tune of another...(a © idea from another place in case any hungry content bot is listening). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:12, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
I've sung "Amazing Grace" to the tune of "Gilligan's Island theme" before. That works scarily well.                               Puppy's talk page10:40 24 Jan
Know the name of the prog but never watched it. I am more of the Batman TV era and the Banana Splits. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 23:04, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
I'll have to check out the words and sing that one to "Gilligan's Island". Why not a page where those two songs and a few others are written, pictured (the Lincoln is a classic, nomnomnom), and then a good singer can record all the songs on the page, like a mini-album. Romartus, thanks for the "man marries brown rice" feature. I wouldn't have nommed it if I didn't think it was feature-worthy, and what made it that is the youtube (to keep with the theme) of Caruso singing (the caption "Tommy Lee Caruso sings for his supper on their wedding night" had me laughing so hard at the time that I could hardly type the words). There's a Joan Baez song about hearing a recording of Caruso in his prime, and what it did for her. I don't know if the song I have on his page is from his prime years. I have an album of his, but no record player at the moment - must get one of those if Tom Edison is still cranking them out. Thanks again! Aleister 11:53 25-1-'13
I can sing it. Assuming your dog has recovered from last time.                               Puppy's talk page12:23 25 Jan
Is that a "yes" for an article? I'll add a song to it if you guys don't mind, don't know which one though. We could do it in sections, with a fake history paragraph before each set of lyrics (Romartus could write a great history paragraph describing Lincoln at Gettysburg). Hmmmmmmm. Aleister 12:27 25-1-'13
Pure coincidence but I was playing with a (very rough) song idea in the spambox earlier. And I had a vague idea for an article “translating” hip hop songs into English by using literal meaning (starting with “gold digger”). But the creative juices are still a tad dry.                               Puppy's talk page12:33 25 Jan
Try this Aleister 12:51 25-1-'13
Going back a bit...who would write a song about leaving a cake in the rain and have the the first Dumbledore sing it? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:53, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Evil ear worm! It's almost as bad as if I'd been to paradise, but I'd never been to me.                               Puppy's talk page12:57 25 Jan
Hmm.I know that song, I can see her face....and then people just disappear. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:58, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Not original to me, but some comedian was asking how Petula Clark got such a loser boyfriend who sleeps on the subway and stands out in the pouring rain. Aleister 12:58 25-1-'13
I always felt men falling like rain and hitting terminal velocity prior to impact with the ground would be pretty messy. Which makes the weather girls exhortation to “get yourself wet” a rather macabre invitation.                               Puppy's talk page01:03 25 Jan
She was talking only to the women (hey, that link reminds me, where's your masterpiece warning page?). Aleister
I must get back to that. When I'm not busy.                               Puppy's talk page01:13 25 Jan
Try this wikipedia [user talk page], I've never seen this one. Laughs aplenty. Al minutes later
Wow! That was just… I'm speechless.                               Puppy's talk page01:50 25 Jan

Liberal Party of Great Britain

has some images that may be in need of censoring due to Wikia's policies. --Mn-z 19:49, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Since the split, I am not aware that any image has been removed or requested to be censored on an existing article, so I will leave it as it is until things are a bit clearer. Thanks for the shout --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:12, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
We should also review the way the images are censored. What had been done previously seemed to be a bit of overkill IMO. Strategic placement of a block would be more effective than gigantic banners across the images, which were done partially as an objection to the request for gentrification.                               Puppy's talk page11:30 25 Jan
The banners were making a rather obvious point about who was objecting and who was photoshopping them. Right now, that is on the back burner as we still need to get that new template finished and approved. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 23:40, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Which I'd put on the backburner as I'd been focused on VFS and stuff off-site.                               Puppy's talk page11:50 25 Jan
Yes, Lyrithya's cats remain for a little longer until a sticker goes on a window 'Moggies Require New Home', --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:09, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Moggies to be exhumed and brought back to life by an evil genius.                               Puppy's talk page12:33 26 Jan
Template looks good. Suggest we make a * for the word humor on the lines of. Spelt Humour in Britain, Craik in Ireland, Sledging in Australia, Hobbit in New Zealand and Moose in Canada. For all other countries where English serves as the lingua franca, Mr Bean will suffice. Something like that. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:50, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Parliamentary Reform in Britain on VFD

Can you do anything with this? Please reply either way on UN:VFD. Spıke ¬ 20:23 25-Jan-13

Ok. Put a fix tag on it and I will knock something out that will be an improvement - just as long as I don't make it too long (my abiding sin). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:15, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
If it's about women getting the vote it could be very long. I enlarged to pic to read it, and never knew that until the 1890s only Wyoming - in the whole world - gave women the vote! And not much better for the next 20 years. New Zealand was alone as a nation for a long time in letting women vote. Man, we treated them like dogs. Aleister 23:38 25-1-'13
Parliamentary reform had to do with voting rights in the United Kingdom. Britain pre-1832 constituency sizes were far from consistent. Some constituencies could were effectively controlled by a single patron, wereas other constituencies had over ten thousand voters. See wikipedia:Parliamentary_Reform_Act_1832 for more info. --Mn-z 13:11, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

UnNews:UnNews reporter comes back from the dead: Only to realize his guiding bird is a duck

I can't tell if this vanity, or just bad writing. --Mn-z 12:30, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

I read the last line that he wanted it moved to user sub pages. So I have done that. See what develops from there. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:35, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
I have seen you have written the 'Labor Party'. There is an Australian Labor Party (a quirk of that party's history the adopted the American spelling rather than the standard British one). Also..a link for you. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-546072/American-man-claims-months-pregnant-baby-girl.html --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:39, January 26, 2013 (UTC).
The “Australian Labor Party” was created from a fork of the “Labour Party”. The original party now no longer exists in any really meaningful way. There is also a “Democratic Labour Party” as well as a very minor presence. They may have dropped off the map altogether tbh. (It is Australia Day for another 15 minutes here.)                               Puppy's talk page12:46 26 Jan
Ha of course. Australia day! BTW..one of the best books I read about Australia was 'The Fatal Shore' by the late Robert Hughes. I recall reading the story about how a convict escaped from a prison dressed as a giant kangaroo. He got caught but I laughed out loud on a train when I saw that! A bit like that programme about the guy in the dog costume who is only visible in that form to his 'owner'. To everyone else, he is just a dumb dog. Very clever concept! --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 13:00, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Speaking of the ALP and Aussie books there's a good series by Shane Maloney about an ALP staffer. Starts with “Stiffs” which was later made into a movie starting the guy who was in that other movie, otherwise known as David Wenham, or the hunchbacked guy from 300. It's a good read, but also odd for me to read it as he mentions a whole bunch of places from my childhood and early 20's in it.                               Puppy's talk page01:11 26 Jan

What in hell?

Thanks for protecting The Onion. That particular page-blanker had a ton of IP addresses up his sleeve.

Continental philosophy as of last 15-Jun contains a rhetorical invitation, "(Someone with more knowledge than "lawl Judtih Butlerz hard to reed", please help me here)." Anarchos today seems to have accepted the invitation and has written six pointy-headed paragraphs which might be ridiculing intellectualism through pseudo-intellectualism and irony, but are way too dense to be funny. My inclination is to revert but wanted a second opinion on whether this stuff could possibly appeal to anyone.

Getting denser, Jinet Jiqet and Tetrageist are having a deep discussion of atheism at User:Tetrageist. It might have started as a proposal for a joint writing project, but at this point, it at least reflects a serious misunderstanding of which website they are on.

I am happy to dump this all in your lap! Spıke ¬ 23:43 27-Jan-13

With regard to that-- apologies. That was a Skype conversation that Jin inappropriately spilled onto my user page, also before I was aware that he was/is an Encyclopedian. Disregard all of it. He misinterpreted what I said to begin with. It's now gone. -tetra (talk) 03:06, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
Also, I've said this on my talk page but what you see there is temporary filler while I get myself oriented. Will renovate my userpage for its true purpose once I have a grasp of wiki formatting in general. Pretend I don't exist for a week or so, and then we can all be peas and carrots. -tetra (talk) 03:13, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
Don't stress it. Your user page is your playground (within reason). The concern was more with someone else using your user page as a talk page. I undid the edits there, and spoke to the other party.
Welcome to the team! Any help you need with wiki format simply ask.                               Puppy's talk page03:21 29 Jan
Thanks for your support, and for the welcome! I do hope to stick around for a while. (Heh, think I just decoded a bit of formatting on the way, too. Wee, this is fun!) -tetra (talk) 03:26, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

How do I start a new page? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drfg (talk • contribs)

I think you wait out the end of a short ban first. Spıke ¬ 00:44 28-Jan-13

Could you please delete my account and my email.this is drfg can you delete my account please and confirm it on my email

No. Nobody can delete your account. Just stop using it if you don't want it around.                               Puppy's talk page05:19 28 Jan

Your edit summary on MediaWiki:Sidebar

The way you phrased it may make it sound like Wikia forced the issue. I the community brought the issue up, and I don't think Wikia is forcing the matter. While Wikia doesn't want links to the other wiki, the main issue was the lack of reciprocity in the links. I.e. the links don't link back here and, as the wikis diverge with time, they will reference content that isn't even here. The way you phrased the edit might cause a "ZOMG WIKIA IZ CONTROLING EVERTHINGZ!" panic among certain segments of uncyclopedia.

And on a related note, I think the e-store link is dead. --Mn-z 20:03, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

The issue of removing those links was a matter of when and not why Mnz. This now means this site can develop its own links to Facebook or Twitter accounts that point to this website's content. I haven't checked the e-store link so you're probably right. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:33, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
Seconded. I don't see the text of a Change Summary as major or as an authoritative document (nor see any way to edit it!) but the desire that our Sidebar not divert clicks or cash to the Fork is not just Wikia's request but mine too. Puppy also noticed it, and came to me with a "What do you make of this?!" Spıke ¬ 22:06 29-Jan-13
On separate issues:
  • Kremdog (6 total edits) has "reposted" Gun control in the U.S. and you have discussed it with him. Reposted from where? the Fork I assume, as he has asked Frosty about getting history information for it. If it is reposted from the mirror, someone had better have a plan to improve it or understand why it was deleted.
  • Anon this noon increased the size of Infinity by 200 Kb, a sum I am not willing to count against my monthly byte quota to view. I'd guess this is vandalism. Spıke ¬ 22:12 29-Jan-13
I removed that chunk of text and reverted the Infinity edit. Don't know where Kremdog got the article so perhaps Frosty could answer that question. I added an image but otherwise, I haven't gone through it. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:44, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
  • E-store is dead. The fork have created a new store that they are hosting somewhere over that direction.
  • If we are removing links that have a second level direct back to the fork, then IRC now directs almost exclusively to the fork. We don't have an alternative IRC.
  • Gun control in the U.S. is not hosted on the mirror site, although it may be on the fork. I responded to Kremdog on Frosty's talkpage, as the issue whould really go back through Chief as the original deleterer.
  • My dog's farts are smelly. I know this is unrelated to the topics above, but we're currently in an enclosed room and the stench is rather overwhelming.                               Puppy's talk page11:37 29 Jan

Puppy, I appreciate your research. (Well, almost all of it.) I see that the gun-control article was not voted deleted but simply had a {{WIP}} expire, and reincarnation is fair if this Kremdog now intends to complete it. Spıke ¬ 23:44 29-Jan-13

The Game

To complete this afternoon's patrol: I think your {{Fix}} here is too charitable. Anon's version is not going to get much better. Spıke ¬ 23:51 29-Jan-13

You may appreciate this...

There's been a discussion on my talk page at FreeUncy after Sir Peesalot asked me if I was a boy or a girl, and I answered him honestly (maybe). Then even though I tried to go on to give him advice, it got weirder as more people joined in, and now I don't know myself if I'm a boy or a girl. So confused. The section is near the bottom of my FreeUncy talk page at dammit, are you a girl or a boy?. I hope the link works, if not, my name there is just "Aleister" Aleister or... 1:15 30-1-'13 (it works kind of but took my machine a long time to load)

Glad to see there's a hive of in depth activity over there. But then some people still think Sims is a guy - despite the signature which strongly suggests otherwise. Perhaps it is a net thing. The more you say you are one thing/gender, the more people believe you are hiding something. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 06:45, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
Ahhh...you mentioned two four letter words that are guaranteed to raise the hackles in certain quarters. Anyway, you can only be banned on the site where you post your comments, though admittedly if you said it to the same admin on either site, they can actually kill you twice. Strange thought isn't it? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 06:55, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

The Big O

Repeating a request I first made of Puppy, who seems to have left the office--Would you care to moderate a creative dispute I am having with new user Steamslinger regarding The Big O? He reasserts an addition he first made as Anon that I have reverted as ranty. As he picked a user name, he ought to have the benefit of an independent set of eyes. Spıke ¬ 22:21 30-Jan-13

Ok. I will check. Thanks Spike. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:22, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
Had a look. Has a touch of the Angry Kid about it but as I have no clue about this particular anime series. At least there is an attempt to write paragraphs and extend the joke...so I will let this one stay. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:35, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. So perhaps ranty is the right thing in context? I'll let him know. Spıke ¬ 22:38 30-Jan-13

Race condition! Puppy did see my request, read the material and came to the opposite conclusion, and has detailed editing advice for the new guy. I won't add anything. Spıke ¬ 22:40 30-Jan-13

Similar conclusion. He's tried to extend the joke. Problem is that it still hasn't worked. I'm letting it stay so he has a chance to improve rather than just keep adding into it. My proviso was though that he has a few days before I bulldoze it and recreate it. I also know nothing about the series, but what he has added has the potential to be funny if done another way.                               Puppy's talk page10:44 30 Jan

Another creative conflict

New user ThePartTimeGroucho is now 3-for-3 in getting his edits reverted by me. On two of the three, I have explained on his talk page. Separately, he seems to have an animus about African Americans, but also to think it is inherently funny. Again we might benefit from the intervention of a third party. Cheers. Spıke ¬ 23:56 30-Jan-13

PS--He is now in with a crap edit on Ku Klux Klan that needs reverting on the same grounds. Spıke ¬ 00:03 31-Jan-13

PPS--Handled (for now); thank you, gentlemen. (Aleister, I mean to say, ah give y'all props, Homie.) Spıke ¬ 00:18 31-Jan-13

VFH

Spike made a point on my talk page. Can you please remove:

<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:120%;">'''VFH status:'''</span><br />'''{{VFHhealth}}''' votes per article • Goal: '''15'''</div>
{{progressbar|total=25|{{VFHhealth}}|center=yes|header=no|width=50%}}

From VFH. It's charting our progress towards lukewarm at present. We can incorporate VFH status: {{VFHhealth}} votes per article. somewhere else if we really need to keep track, but that (now unrealistic) goal and the progress bar are somewhat useless and makes us look stupid.                               Puppy's talk page01:46 31 Jan

Trying to locate that link (never said I was a coder!). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:44, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
It's about 2 or 3 lines into the page.                               Puppy's talk page09:51 31 Jan

 !ENDVALUE! vandal

How about Autoconfirmed protection for Template talk:German and Template talk:Britain? He always changes his IP, but he often attacks here. What need does Anon have for access to the talk page of two templates? Spıke ¬ 19:04 31-Jan-13

Locked. Thanks Spike. Good point as regards templates. Why indeed? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 19:24, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Your Welcome page

I took a copy of User:Romartus/Welcome to tweak it for my own use. You have, at the end, a message to a specific user that you don't want to send to future recipients of the welcome. Spıke ¬ 20:03 31-Jan-13

I removed the addition intended for a specific user. --ChiefjusticeWii 20:28, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Chief. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:38, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Congrats

You won Uncyclopedian of the Year, and well deserved. The other site has its winners, but that does not in any way lessen this great award. Congratulations!!! Aleister 00:05 2-1-'13

And not only that, this wonderful day in Uncyclopedia history includes the featuring of the Epic! Should be a holiday every year. I hope HoGB stays on the main page for a week, and maybe now I'll actually read it all the way and give myself an education. Aleister
I still think Schama's take was funnier, but likewise congrats!                               Puppy's talk page01:26 02 Feb
Thanks Pup. It's featured on both sites and I am still working on the 'epic'. Odd thing is, I really wrote it for myself to see how much nonsense I could weave in an updated spirit of the classic book 1066 and All That. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:47, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

VFH

I've done work on the "Guy who invented soap" vhf and added a good pic. So if you have a minute grab another look. Thanks. As for VFH, I think we're close to the point where a second-way to feature a page could be thought about. My idea of a "panel" of you, Spike, and Chief - all of you hard votes on vfh - to either vote a page a feature or to show the author weak points (as you did with the Soap page) so they could fix them, would serve as another gateway for pages. It would peer review them. That would leave two routes to feature, the peer review panel of discerning voters and the minumum number of votes. I'd prefer the peer review route myself, although it would have to be even selective in pages it chooses to discuss. Aleister 14:27 3-2-'13

Triumvirātus præmiōrum Spıke ¬ 14:41 3-Feb-13

Skipping a Day

It looks like UnNews:Medical Cause of Unpregnancy Fetishism Discovered is being featured on the 5th. However, if we are featuring for 2 days, it should be on the 4th. --Mn-z 15:21, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixed. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:11, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Al Obama

Looks like a copy of Alabama. --Mn-z 17:14, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

We could delete one and leave a redirect. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:59, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
User Kaint@yo a month ago, presumably from the American right-wing, hit a lot of subjects, such as al-Obama, al-Gore, and al-Jazeera. Unfortunately, he came to the conclusion that a good way to make a pun is to create an article with a name that no one will ever type. The two articles are not exact copies, as he has transliterated "Alabama" to "Al Obama" throughout. However, in my opinion, no one cares. Huff it and don't leave a redirect. Spıke ¬ 18:06 3-Feb-13
PS--I'll take this to VFD. Spıke ¬ 18:19 3-Feb-13

User:CartoonistHenning

Apparently, his page hard redirects to Free Uncyclopedia. The code [[nl:en:<pagename>]] apparently redirects to free Uncyclopedia. The code, [[nl:<pagename>]] redirects to http://oncyclopedia.net, the Dutch Uncyclopedia. Interestingly, on Free Uncyclopedia, the code [[:it:en:<pagename>]] will redirect back here.

Here is how I think it works. [[nl:<pagename>]] redirects to the Dutch Uncyclopedia, the code [[nl:en:<pagename>]] re-redirects to Dutch Uncyclopedia's English link, which is Free Uncyclopedia. Since the Italian uncyclo still links to wikia site, such code would move the reader back here.

My point is that userpages should not hard redirect off the wiki. In fact, I might go so far as to say nothing should ever hard redirect of the wiki. --Mn-z 18:12, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed; he is using Wikia's resources to divert traffic away from Wikia. The definition of Uncyclopedia on foreign wikis, changed by an inoccuous message to a friend, like the WP:Uncyclopedia entry where Aimsplode described us as a "deprecated....sandbox," is just one more battlefield to portray the Fork as the real Uncyclopedia. They can own a copy of the database but they do not have the legal right to the term. Spıke ¬ 18:19 3-Feb-13
Ok, have removed the redirects. The links are on the user and talk pages as per others who have moved elsewhere. Matter closed. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:10, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

King Rich

Ah, you beat me, I came her to write the UnNews. The angle I was going to use, if you'd like to dd it, was that the skeleton of Richard was demanding the skeleton of a horse. "A skeleton of a horse, a skeleton of a horse, my kingdom (a parking lot in Leicester) for a skeleton of a horse". I posted the story on Above Top Secret, apparantly the first there. Leverage hasn't gotten onto it yet, but I expect a masterpiece from that dodger. Aleister 12:28 4-1-'13

I was watching it on the computer (it was a live feed on BBC 24). Feel free to do your own take! --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:38, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
There's a tv show tonight. This is a pretty big deal, and Al Pacino is salivating somewhere, wanting the skull for his very own. No, but thanks, one story is enough. Maybe tomorrow I'll write up the horse skeleton one as a follow-up, but yours deserves the showcase. The pic is great, and should be in every textbook. If I knew how to load a pic onto my computer and transfer it I'd move it to my thread at Above Top Secret, but they would just remove it because of the suspicious cig in the King's mouth. Al 12:44
The cigarette is in the painting. The one I used is by Van Gogh. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:50, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
I thought it was a bit familiar, my ignorance surrounds me. The cig looks like grass, but because it isn't it could pass muster at ats. Aleister 13:25
I have that as a framed repro at home which is why I remembered. Saw the original in the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 13:28, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
Nice, and it's nice to use something you like enough to hang in your home on one of your pages. I really have to learn how to load pictures, but everytime I try I'm missing something and can't do it. Maybe I should make that a New Year's goal for 2014 and start studying. The tv show tonight on Richard is on Channel 4, about a King in a parking lot or something. lol: "A handicapped parking space, a handicapped parking space, my below-ground lot for a handicapped parking space." Al 13:35
Do you mean uploading or photoshopping? BTW, I like the Al Pacino angle. If I recall he played Richard III like a mafia boss but wasn't that him 'trying to find the role' rather than actually playing Richard III? Trying to recall info than going for a wiki click. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 14:30, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
Pacino loves Shakespeare's Richard. He used his personal money to finance his own movie "Looking for Richard" which is very good, and if you haven't seen it, there you go. It's more of a movie and documentary. There is also a Richard III Society, who must be very happy today. The talk on the thread is about if RIII will have a state funeral, where he should be buried, nad one woman who is a racist talking about how Leicester is now Asian and no longer English. We live and learn. Aleister 18:59 4-2-'13

"Test, just a test"

Anon (not always at the same IP) seems anxious to delete the contents of User:Twinkleblue43/guestbook. I have reverted three times, and informed him via Change Summary that he is free to do so by logging on as himself. What do you reckon the "test" is? I think it's to test whether Uncyclopedia is completely deserted and undefended. I'm inclined to protect this userpage to Autoconfirmed. Another IP wants us to huff the personal pages of Mike heat; I likewise said he'd have to do so as himself. Spıke ¬ 14:57 4-Feb-13

You could lock it and ban the IP for reverting you (3 days). I don't let IPs huff pages, personal or user ones. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:37, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the second opinion. Spıke ¬ 16:55 4-Feb-13

You removed the {{VFD}} from Great Library of Alexander, commenting, Removed delete template..unless that was part of the joke). It is not; the article is a VFD save and it is still listed on VFD, though the vote is now 2-0 Keep. If you want to declare it kept, that would be fine. Never mind; this is done. Spıke ¬ 17:57 4-Feb-13

History of Great Britain, promises made, promises broken, sadness and wringing of hands

You promised me once only four footnotes in HoGB (I just invited an English history buff to look at the page), and there are seven. Seven! An unfunny amount of footnotes, whereas four broke me up one time and I laughed and laughed and laughed. I hope you never make a pact with the devil, as the devil would know you lie and would be very sad too. Dejectedly yours, Aleister 19:46

MTTB and Talk:Pizza Planet

I agree that his actions are in good faith. And the talk page is effectively an attempt and doing another version of the same article - and it's pathetic. So I've restored the page because of the concept of "don't blank", but added to VFD on the concept of "deleteable garbage", but there's no way I'd want to blank someone for what I assume is good willed ignorance rather than maliciousness or vandalism. I ummed and aahed over whether QVFD was more suitable but because it has been around for so long - and we've all missed seeing it for so long - I figured by our deletion policy this was the best way to go. Feel free to just delete it instead though - your call, and I'm not going to argue.                               Puppy's talk page09:40 05 Feb

Ah...MTTB had his own template? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 10:50, February 5, 2013 (UTC)
I use brains goodly.                               Puppy's talk page11:11 05 Feb

my talk page

Why have you reverted my edits and protected my talk page? The message is still in the history, and I would prefer that the page be blanked. sumone10154(talk) 07:30, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

As much as I hate when questions are answered with questions, why do you want it deleted? Spike's message was in short why we wouldn't want to delete the page.                               Puppy's talk page07:40 06 Feb
The option is to put 'Retired' on your talk page with a link to your archived discussion in case anyone wants to contact you here again. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 07:41, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

User:Dannyboy1209

I believe you adopted this one? He is getting confrontational on his talk page and continuing to make overtly unfunny edits to various articles despite my best attempt to tell him what is wrong and how to learn to do better. Spıke ¬ 15:54 6-Feb-13

Oh yes I did. I will pop over to his page. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:49, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Help me fix my user page.

Yes this is just a blatent cry for help- I've been gone so long I can't remember (or did something change...?) how to fix my formatting problems on my user page- this is preventing me from being creative and writing more articles- or I'm just too lazy to try and figure it out myself using the format guide- help?--Spqr Sir Claudius CUN VFH (carpe diem) 22:48, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hail Claudius! I am no whizz with the formatting issue so I am not sure if I can help loads. Suggest you ask Mnbvcxz, Simsilikesims or PuppyOnTheRadio - say I pointed you in their general direction. I am writer/editor first, a thingy wotsit second. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 07:00, February 7, 2013 (UTC)
When I have time I'll look at it, although I'll need to know what you want it to look like.                               Puppy's talk page09:22 07 Feb
Well it used to not look like shite that's for sure! Those info boxes were all spaced out and organized- now they are all bunched together....any help you can give I would appreciate- I will look into cleaning up myself today if I can figure it out.--Spqr Sir Claudius CUN VFH (carpe diem) 17:44, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Soap guy

Thanks for your vote on the soap guy page. Because of your initial abstain I polished, added content, and added a pic and caption. So with three votes it should be ready for featuring! (it had six at the fork last time I checked, going for the gold, ah, soap). What do you think of my idea of you, Spike, Chief, and Puppy acting as judges for features if we don't get enough votes? It'd be a way to offer suggestions without having to do a complete pee review, and would make everyone do some polishing, etc., which is what has been lacking with the feature votes. Well, what's next on your table? Thanks again. Al 20:10 7-2-'13

Me, I think this proposed reorganization is a thinly-veiled sham to ensure that I will finally read all your stuff. Harsh and grumpy ¬ 20:22 7-Feb-13
lol at your sig (and I only say that if I am lol. Have only FOMCROFL once in my life). You don't read my stuff? I thought everyone read my stuff, all 50,000 visitors a day. Life is unfair when you're a young African-American unwed mother living in rural Mississippi, I can tell you that. Al 20:31 same day

Welcome message

Acting on your prodding from a couple weeks ago, I adapted your welcome message to create User:SPIKE/Welcome. I am not saying you should adopt my changes, but the section on "How to post to talk pages" I based on your repeated advice to newbies to do stuff no one ever told them to do in the first place. These are scoldings for not imitating adequately!

Separately, at present I am copying and pasting on each occurrence. I dabbled with {{subst: but found it inserted a red-link instead of the file, at least in Preview. At any rate, I'm not hitting everyone, as you and Simsie are, but only guys who have made edits, and typically appending a comment on their edits. Spıke ¬ 14:44 8-Feb-13

PS--Thanks, Puppy, for verifying that there is no malfunction. I had added a vertical bar that spoiled it. Nevertheless, I think I will stay with copypasting (despite having to pay per gigabyte) rather than depending on myself to type this correctly in the future.

Floyd

This was uploaded in one Big Gulp. I presume it is a creation from Yuky Doody Pedia for which the author wants additional eyes. I see the coherent use of a humor technique (illustrate stupidity by being stupid), but I personally do not want it, at least not from Anon. Please do whatever is consistent with what we intend to do about sporks. Spıke ¬ 15:53 8-Feb-13

Out of curiosity, do you mean illogicopedia, or is there another silly wiki I haven't heard of. --Mn-z 16:07, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
I meant the Fork, but I concede I don't know where Floyd comes from. Spıke ¬ 16:13 8-Feb-13
Quick google search for the first couple of sentences picked up about a dozen or so entries, ranging from a week to two years ago (roughly). It looks like copypasta randumbo that's floated around for a while. It's unoriginal, but I can't pinpoint the original source.                               Puppy's talk page09:26 08 Feb
Overlooked the original. Complete copy-paste of stupid but under someone's name. Pure UN:CB.                               Puppy's talk page09:29 08 Feb

No, under Anon's IP. Correctly filed on QVFD and now it's gone. Thanks for the research. Spıke ¬ 21:36 8-Feb-13

Oh - the name I was referring to was Floyd.                               Puppy's talk page06:26 10 Feb

Thanks

Thanks for nominating my article! Equilateralperil 02:32, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome. I enjoyed the article, a deserved feature! --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 09:05, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

History of the world. Again.

I re-read the rewrite, and your review. There are two major elements missing from that article that are really letting it down. The first is Asian history, which I deliberately glossed over due to ignorance - hard to make funny of something I know so little about. The second is history from Industrial Revolution onwards, which does read as being written hastily. The latter part I think I can do myself, as while I'm no history buff there's enough that has happened over the past couple of centuries I do know about that I can write something for. The depression and the World Wars are a definite inclusion, and I'd like to include the birth of the Information Age from Bletchley Park to Arpanet to Tim Berners-Lee. I was trying to avoid Hitler - we have too much on him already on site - but in this context it's fitting.

The problem is that'll still leave a gap on Asian history. Your knowledge on Asian history outstrips me by a mile. How do you feel about collaborating on it to fill in those gaps? If not, I can leave that part as is. The lack of detail in that article makes a decent point about how the English speaking world - in general - ignore Asian history. I might just have to make that point somewhat clearer.                               Puppy's talk page06:24 10 Feb

Hi Pup. Regards Asian history, you have the two great hubs of India and China, with Japan, indochina, the Mongol Empire, Timurlane, expansion of Russia eastwards, The rival empires of the Ottomans and Persia (become a Shiite state in the 16th century) etc. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 09:11, February 10, 2013 (UTC)
OK, let me see what I can sketch in on the article. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 09:13, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Reading, England

We have a live one on the line, with a Southampton IP (but a username too), whom I've convinced to start the above article. I'll contribute my thoughts based on pub-crawling over a seven-year period (and grammar), and perhaps you have more to add about Berkshire history. Spıke ¬ 10:38 10-Feb-13

I thought a construction tag means "Go away" and let the author do what he does for a week. If I just started writing here, I think my Phil Ochs page was my first, and Spike was hovering over me with suggestions and rewrites and throwing widgets into my whatids, I wouldn't have stayed. Now Spike and I are being well paid by Wikia to hang around, and we're driving Hummers that can barrel though snowdrifts the size of houses, so my point is if we all start editing a new page of a first time user we can send him to the fork earlier than he would have gotten there anyway, and he won't get paid as much. Aleister 10:45 10-2-'13

That is because you are a temperamental artist. I think this one is a schoolgirl. Spıke ¬ 11:04 10-Feb-13

I have noticed that the pages of the active users here have become the informal forums! Regards new users, I think perhaps adding a WIP tag is perhaps 'kinder' than an ICU. Certainly for new pages, we can be a bit more strict if an IP starts to adding junk to an article. Since no one has any idea if a new user will turn out to be a Sog1970 or a Gomphog, then I would lean towards leniency to start with. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 11:38, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

This one has {{Construction}}, applied by the article's creator, not by any unkind quality Nazi imposing a deadline. So "leniency" is not an issue, though the author's right to be alone with the creation might be. I asked Magicrainbowunicorn to create this, and I'm asking Romartus to flesh out the paragraph on the 8th Century so that it goes somewhere. Spıke ¬ 11:50 10-Feb-13

I agree with Al. Let it play out. If we jump down the throat of every newcomer then we lose every newcomer we're likely to have. Admittedly Pawn shop and Care Bear were crap articles, but if I was read the riot act on starting to fiddle with them I probably wouldn't have hung around. As long as it's not UN:CM or UN:CB, it can wait out the {{construction}} tag.                               Puppy's talk page12:03 10 Feb
Puppy barks wisdom. I thought all construction tage are put on by the creator (praise His name) (And the morning and the evening were the First day, and He saw that it was good, and He placeth a construction tag on His creation). Al minutes later

It looks as though, now that we have the wiki all to ourselves, everyone wants to set policy. Instead, I went to the talk page to ask what the author prefers. Spıke ¬ 12:18 10-Feb-13

If I set policy you'd find yourself in a heaven on earth. On this one though, the construction tag itself sets the policy, with words like "Go away". Of course when you ask a new user what they'd prefer they will probably give in to the established user, as I gave in to Puppy and RAHB when I arrived and had to do unspeakable acts before I could edit (later I found out I was taken in by the gang of two). Maybe in honor of this series of posts I'll continue to edit "Phil Ochs". Aleister 12:26 that day
I've always tried to establish policy. Just never got around to actually writing it down.                               Puppy's talk page12:29 10 Feb
Then again, in this case it seems to be working out well, with three editors jumping in, and maybe the noob will be honored to be included in a feature on his first outing, if it gets the required three votes. Al setting policy on how many coffee breaks we get

Cumbria

Could I kick it to you on the basis of geography to review Anon's contributions to Cumbria? He contributes some interesting possible future directions, but has bad grammar, bad markup, daydreaming-in-place-of-humor, dialect-in-place-of-humor, and even nonsense numbers. Can you weave him in, or would you just revert him? Spıke ¬ 18:52 10-Feb-13

Thanks for that. In other news today, we had a cameo appearance from VegaDark, apparently a Wikia firefighter who reverted one of those blankers who leaves high praise in place of an entire...user archive. We had Lesbian Wolf, whose first edit was to upload JavaScript that looked like an app to do automated random reverts; permabanned by me. Puppy has defended us on Wikipedia against flowery rhetoric by a Wikipedian to defend an assertion that we are "seemingly abandoned." And I have fixed up new user Nivrock with Magicrainbowunicorn on the basis of the former's volunteering for the Proofreading Force and the latter's need of it. Frosty has been doing a little sysopping, and there have been conversations you'll stumble upon in all the wrong places (including Buddy Cianci). Spıke ¬ 01:56 11-Feb-13
Thanks for the update. I took time away from the site to read the 'Lincoln' book, Team of Rivals. A little bit heavy to start with as it talks not just about Lincoln but Seward, Chase, Bates in quite obsessive detail but now getting into the story. Hence, my limited attendance this weekend. It does contain the line from Mrs Lincoln when she notices her husband 'isn't very gay at the moment' (I paraphrase). Ha! The changes in a word usage!! Unless memory mis-serves, doesn't The Flintstones end with a song "We'll have a Gay Old Time"?? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 08:03, February 11, 2013 (UTC)
Vega Dark? Any relation to Zana Dark?? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 08:08, February 11, 2013 (UTC)
There's a song that used to be taught to school kids here that goes:
Kookaburra sits in the old guntree
Merry, merry king of the bush is he
Laugh, Kookaburra, laugh
Gay your life must be
I don't think they teach it any more.                               Puppy's talk page09:55 11 Feb

Hmmph! "Catching up on your reading" seems to mean, "Give Spike the ol' Ban Stick and run away!" Again, Lesbian Wolf is permabanned, as discussed at User talk:Frosty, and didn't need to be welcomed, though {{Oh Dear}} was the way to do it. Sigh! when we let them have the word "liberal," the language was done. Still harsh and grumpy ¬ 11:54 11-Feb-13

Hi Spike. Well I didn't run away as I was updating UnNews and the feature page. Not sure I understand the quote and context. Who is/are the 'we'? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:48, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

An archetypal grumbly conservative (no one we know) lamenting that "liberal" in the U.S. has lost its association with liberty. I forgot to mention: Your protege Dannyboy was in with a change, and noted same on his talk page--a copy of a joke told elsewhere, and Snippy got to it first. And I heard that Wikia is playing hardball on the Spanish Uncyclopedia, declining to feed interwiki traffic to a site that doesn't return the favor. Spıke ¬ 12:58 11-Feb-13

PS--Looking for stuff to feature? Xedoc has a rewrite of F. Scott Fitzgerald that might be ready. Spıke ¬ 15:27 11-Feb-13

Toast Wars

Mnbvcxz has VFD'd this, in conjunction with two grade-school rants involving various Popes. However, this one has erudition, especially after I cleared away all the sequel "toast wars." You might be able to contribute more specifics from history, more puns, and perhaps a photo or two. Spıke ¬ 17:35 11-Feb-13

Content warning stuff

Okay - my coding is not always perfect, so be ready to revert this if it goes askew.

I've only edited the areas of common.css directly related to the content warning. This should replace the content warning completely. I'd suggest having a second browser open to check the content warning after the changes have been made (one where you're not logged in) just to be on the safe side. If it buggers up, then revert.                               Puppy's talk page12:40 12 Feb

I will put an alert on the Chief's page as he is the site Bureaucrat to have a look. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 13:08, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

moaning

Tropic Thunder
MrN Icons-flag-gb (talk to me) 02:57, Feb 15

I think the new content warning is only being seen in Australia. Thanks for your many sited votes on the soap guy article, and the backhanded backhand on the other site. MrN hates the page because it has no laughs for him, and tore me a new one on that other site too, and my new one is working fine but children point and draw pictures to sell to strangers. If wishes were horses (a fine page you did there) I'd be riding Secretariat's bones. Al 10:38 Happy Valentines Candy Buying Day '13

I can see it but it is better than the kitties. I had wanted Oscar and the template but perhaps it was too 'navelist'. Anyway, of more importance is what we can show behind the front door. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 10:45, February 14, 2013 (UTC)
I get blamed for everything. :( I'm told it's because I'm too stupid. MrN Icons-flag-gb HalIcon.png WhoreMrn.png Fork you! 00:57, Feb 15
Didn't the template and the pic of Oscar win the vote, and Puppy closed the vote? So I thought that was chosen as the new warning label. MrN has stupid centered on his family crest, but he can't read it. If stupid were a colour it'd be named MrN. Every time stupid looks in the mirror, MrN is staring back (and he can't understand the concept of mirrors, and is surprised each time). When people were looking for stupid in the woods, MrN came out from behind a tree. When a UFO wants to find the stupidest man on earth, MrN will be waving at them to "Land right here!". Eating cake with pickles is MrN's favorite meal. But I digress... the warning label, yeah, serious, didn't the template win? Aleister 2:48 15-2-'13
What Al said - about the warning template, not MrN - but I'd add the vote was close. The vote about the warning template - the vote on MrN hasn't closed yet.                               Puppy's talk page03:04 15 Feb

I hate reading history

I'm just reading up on WWI and WWII (including the Sino-Japanese war) because of you. I've also decided Charles á Court Repington is responsible for both of them. He supported bolstering UK troops prior to 1914 (as well as being a soldier himself) and first coined the term “First World War” in 1918, stating “The history of the world is the history of war.” Given that's what it was being called, no wonder we insisted on a sequel.

Also noticed Kaiser Bill was high command of UK forces at the advent of the war, as was Hirohito 20 odd years later. Then Saddam Hussein was armed and trained by the US, (as was Iran at the same time), and so was Osama Bin Laden. We have a tendency to create our own enemies.

And then we have Bletchley Park being responsible for the advent of computers, and Arpanet being responsible for the Internet. So the military - both in war and “peace” - is responsible for the advent of the Information Age.

And I'm going to continue reading and turning this around until I have the picture drawn the way I want it to be. And it's all your bloody fault!                               Puppy's talk page03:43 16 Feb

Pink Floyd and the Wizard of Oz...--LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 15:53, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
The sun is the same in a relative way, and I could while away the hours conversing with the flowers.                               Puppy's talk page03:59 16 Feb

Second pair of eyes, please

  • Leandro1983 has uploaded two photographs of pairs of people and has seeded several pages, including Elton John, with them. I am not sure whether there is any point other than a serious anti-gay-marriage message.
  • In my conversation on User talk:Nopartablewarning, he seemed to be saying that The Cuteyhearts, an amusing page on the formation of an awful amateur girl-group, was using Uncyclopedia to promote a pre-existing hoax or maybe even an actual stage act.
  • In other news, I deleted Unquotable:Steven Wright by Phrank Psinatra, after Puppy cited it as junk in alternate namespaces, on the grounds that it was copypasted humor from an external web site. Spıke ¬ 21:08 17-Feb-13

Others may feel free to comment, too. Spıke ¬ 21:08 17-Feb-13

My comments, which are worth a bucket of warm spit. The picture is boring, if it's the one I was looking at. That's not even Elton John in it, and it means nothing except maybe to the user. - The Cuteyhearts seems light hearted and boring, so real or not it seems okay but a bit juvenile. It does have a link to The Shaggs, which is to its everlasting credit (I have a copy of The Shaggs original album, and don't know if they made more than one (not one copy, one album)). - Lots of junk around here, but that is the way of the world. Aleister 1:14 18-2

Thanks, Al; elsewhere, Puppy believes that The Cuteyhearts is intentionally a satire on The Shaggs. Spıke ¬ 01:28 18-Feb-13

I removed the pic as the guy on the left is former Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. He is also married so I am finding it hard to see how that image adds to 'the funny' to either article. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 10:34, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

There were two photos, inserted into articles a total of 4 times. I have reverted YMCA and huffed both photos, which were uploaded without any description, on presumed vanity. I see you have asked Leandro for an explanation; they can be restored if he offers one. Spıke ¬ 12:38 18-Feb-13

I see - essentially photo spamming articles. OK, we'll see if he tries to restore them or responds to my explanation but no further action for now regards this account. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:55, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Users C1322978 and C1326159

I have blocked these users for 1 day "pending investigation." The first one added a page to Category:Things Retards Believe by simply editing the category and typing in the name of the page. I reverted, and listed the category on VFD on substantive grounds. Then the second one typed the same page back in, as a red-link. Apart from the fact that the user is playing with categories without learning how to, and is using categories to write a drive-by slap (at the expense of British Intelligence, if I may digress into oxymorons) rather than clever humor, these usernames are at least an effort to evade the responsibility of having an identity, and may be sockpuppets. Please advise. Spıke ¬ 12:26 18-Feb-13

I would have just reverted without banning, depends if they repeat the actions. Can't tell if the actions are by someone who is new to the site or a sockpuppet which would require rolling out check user. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 13:42, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

If you aren't inclined to ask for checkuser based on the incident, I'll bring them back to life. Spıke ¬ 13:58 18-Feb-13

I think the Chief can check use as a bureaucrat. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 14:04, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
You might be thinking of the fork. Only staff can checkuser here, unless something changed recently. --Mn-z 14:48, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
I think you're right. Thanks. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 15:16, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Consultation

  • I have banned Samh2012 for a week for multiple incivilities, which I explain (underneath you) on his talk page.
  • Mnbvcxz asserts via QVFD that File:Pogrom.jpg is so graphic as to violate our policy. In my opinion, we have no censorship policy apart from that of Wikia, which they see to promptly. (PS--But see below.) However, several weeks back, a photo was offered up on VFD and someone made the claim that Mordillo laid down the law against "snuff pics." This JPG is in use in Final Solution, which I nominated last night for featuring (running, as usual, with images switched off). Is it too graphic to be funny, especially in context of an article that plays nicety-nice with the Holocaust? Should it be deleted outright? Spıke ¬ 19:41 19-Feb-13
I would replace it as I recall someone did something similar about the Nanking Massacre and used some death images. I don't mind 'death in art' (David's painting of Marat) but I using photos like this is a bit too much. I suggest asking the author first if he can change it otherwise we will have to locate a different image that isn't so graphic. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:29, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
OK I will ask him. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:29, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad you're looking at removing this image, I think there's a lot to say for allowing people a bit of dignity in death - especially when they didn't actually get any when they died. And there are always other images that can be used...
But I have to rant a bit about "we have no censorship policy". Guys, you should (and did) have some limits. I know this is something I've grumped at before (always with my non-staff hat on), but I've got to do so again. Ignoring Wikia's limits for a moment, the line used to be: no shock images, no porn, and no boobs unless they were funny - that is, none that weren't in an article and an intrinsic part of the joke. That last bit got lost first, when people started piling on the nudie shots for personal collections (I never understood what that had to do with building a humor website). Sure, Wikia (or more specifically, me) will eventually remove images outside the ToU, but surely there should still be a level of self-regulation... just as there is for articles that are unfunny. I'm not asking for an child friendly site, but there are two reasons that Goatse doesn't contain the actual image. Firstly, because it's more funny that way, and secondly because no one (well, almost no one) wants to see that image as they move around uncyc.
Again, this is all personal opinion, not staff opinion.. and maybe I'm a prude, but I honestly don't believe that this wiki needs porn or shock to be funny. There are plenty of other sites that occupy that spot already. -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 22:06, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
I stand corrected, as Special:Upload states that very policy--against "pornographic/shock/gore" and in our name not Wiki's. Separately, I agree with you that we don't need porn or shock to be funny, and those who do are for the most part recently removed. On the image in question, I agree with Romartus on giving the author the chance to correct it rather than rip a hole in his article and risk its advance to the main page (by which time the issue must be dealt with). Spıke ¬ 23:27 19-Feb-13
Everyone has a different line where they define porn. For me it's war and violence and the kiilling of animals of any kind. That's porn. Showing that fat guy eating a hamburger is snuff porn. Eye of the beholder. Wikipedia has graphics and photos which are much much more sexually explicit than anything I've seen here, by far. Even videos on talk pages. They show the body as a natural thing. Eating a chicken leg, unnatural and porn, unless you are a coyote or something. Aleister 00:10 20-2-'13
Aleister my love... if that's your view of porn, either you don't actually know the definition of the word, or you are a very very scary man. Or both. I'm going to assume it's both. -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 17:49, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
You will never go wrong doing so. Aleister, what about the lifeless corpses of all those bean sprouts you scarf down? Spıke ¬ 17:55 20-Feb-13
My theory is that if you can't shock people's sensibilities without resorting to pornography, then you shouldn't be editing a humor wiki. --Mn-z 18:32, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
With such adults in charge, we will remain the Mother Ship of humor wikis, no matter the distorted reflection over there in the carnival mirror. (Now about those shocking, abnormal, distended female bellies that are overwhelming this site....) Spıke ¬ 18:48 20-Feb-13
Wait... are you calling me fat?! <grumble> -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 00:33, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hea

I was hoping to e-mail you. Could I? I have an account which is mrn9k@yahoo.co.uk. If you are busy, that's cool. No biggie, I just had a few things I wanted to discuss with you off wiki. MrN Icons-flag-gb (talk to me) 20:46, Feb 19

Ok. I will send an email to your address. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:45, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

QFA

Just noticed you were going back into the stack, a good idea. For the Hall of Shame, to keep it current, maybe you should add the pages there when you choose one. I've added today's and "Bad Directions," did you do more of these that may have been missed in the Hall? Thanks. Aleister 10:17 1-3-'13

OK..sorry been out of action for last few days thanks to flu and moving office at the same time...not a good combination. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:26, March 3, 2013 (UTC)
Though happily, if it was intestinal flu, your coworkers will be able to tell where you moved to. Spıke ¬ 21:41 3-Mar-13
Hmm...wasn't that Spike but er....thanks for the thought! --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:46, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Robertmalick786‎

For Mr. Malick, with any suffix, now please see Abuse Filter 13. His siblings 82 and 100 signed on the day before yesterday. Spıke ¬ 22:19 4-Mar-13

In other news, your protége Dannyboy1209 has been insistently asking about an UnSignpost. And Mordillo was in this afternoon and did some token reverts. Spıke ¬ 22:43 4-Mar-13

Well if DB can write it, he can do it! I saw Mordillo has come back. Next Famine!!!? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:04, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Famine? Apres moi, la deluge!!! Spıke ¬ 12:13 5-Mar-13

Newbie watchlist

  • You had warned GingerMcNeill about photographs of non-notable individuals. She may be at it again, such as at Your mom. I find the addition funny, but I might not if I were Ginger's neighbor and that were me.
  • TheDarthMoogle wrote an UnNews that not only was based on the Ikea horse-meat news but stumbled onto the exact same angles (Koreans and DNA-testing Ikea staffers) as my UnNews. I userspaced it, but he swears it was parallel development (and I've watched Star Trek and seen this sort of thing) so I put it back.
  • I also had words with Rrraaattt‎ on his talk page about his behavior. Spıke ¬ 10:11 9-Mar-13
The pix used by GingerMcNeill are ok and they don't seem to be illustrating anyone in particular in a context they could object to. Other stuff checked too, some classic Newbie errors but nothing too bad that requires a ban. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:40, March 9, 2013 (UTC)
Darthmoogle's UnNews is a possible 'two minds thinking alike'. I made an error recently when I mistakenly thought someone had borrowed a Leverage article for here. I was 100% incorrect! --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:43, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Hellooo. ooooo. oooooo!

Hi. We need more Romartus pages. Could you look at Funnybony's Pope Conclave unnews page on VFH, some of us noobs are trying to get it as a feature either tonight or tomorrow, so it's up on the main page when the conclave opens. A read from you may baby seal the deal. That is all, but we should talk more, imnho, and I'm glad Zarbag is still on the site. Aleister 17:02 10-3-'13

If you are feeling like voting, you are welcome back to VFD as well. Spıke ¬ 17:19 10-Mar-13
OK I will check the pages. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:27, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

I'm no expert on the concept of time, but...

...I don't understand. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 19:15, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

I am featuring articles that were quasi-featured before and mixing them in with new articles. Is that the question? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:02, March 11, 2013 (UTC)
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't "Poop throwing monkeys" quasi-featured several times? Once for every monkey? And on a not-so-serious note, G-flat. Aleister 20:48 11-3-'13
Yes. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 21:10, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

Conclave

Conclave

Any chance of putting up Funnybony's conclave UnNews tonight, so it's there when, as I mentioned to SPIKE, the conclave opens and the Cardinals - who all read uncy - will have a last laugh before they are locked in to vote. Thanks. Aleister 21:11 11-3-'13

You are a genitalman and a schroller. Thanks. Now the cardinals can talk about the idea, and hopefully adopt it. Aleister 10:22 12-3-'13

Forum:Vote: Are there too many @$%& boxes on this @$%& Forum?

Do you have an opinion on this? Spıke ¬ 15:26 13-Mar-13

Spartacus:Gore and Nudity

Sannse has savaged this article's illustrations. Yesterday I tried to close gaping holes left in two articles visited by some other Wikia employee, but as it is the core of this article and you are the author, I'll dump it in your lap. Spıke ¬ 19:19 14-Mar-13

Hi Spike. I checked the Fork version to see what the image was: A boob grab image from the TV series? I will check with Sannse if that was the reason. Thanks for the alert. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:38, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
One sec...isn't Cap Sock Monkey BB??? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:41, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
No, the image was taken off by Sannse. Scrub that previous comment. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:50, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
I have great trouble telling these things apart as well. Spike sockpuppet (talk) 21:58, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
I know what you mean. I'd class this as a legitimate use, although if we needed to remove that gropage then a trim of about 10% from the right and from the base wouldn't be too drastic. C₂H₆O 22:31, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
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