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No, under Anon's IP. Correctly filed on QVFD and now it's gone. Thanks for the research. {{User:SPIKE/signature}}<small>21:36 8-Feb-13</small>
 
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Thanks for nominating my article! {{User:Equilateralperil/sig}} 02:32, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

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Lincoln-mic

I will now sing the Gettysburg Address.

Rabbit Below

Don't mind if I do. Spıke ¬ 15:25 22-Jan-13

User:New user 22-Jan-2013 1801

There were a spate of these, a couple weeks ago, but they didn't start "New user" but "test account" or some such. They seemed to cite Central European Time. I have never seen these users actually do anything. Spıke ¬ 18:05 22-Jan-13

Possible spammer. I will block the IP address. Thanks. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:13, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Again, I don't think there has been actual spam. If I had to guess, it is a kid in a computer class with a test program (or a prototype virus) attempting automated account registration. A block is appropriate; if you can check to see if this IP has created other accounts, it will solve the other riddle. Cheers. Spıke ¬ 18:24 22-Jan-13

Lifting of UnNews stories

There is something on TKF's page from Mnbzz. Our UnNews stories are being lifted from here to the other site without notification or the permission of the author. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:27, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

I saw that. Legally, under CC-BY, our stories are not "ours" and can be copied for any non-commercial use. (For proof that the resulting use is non-commercial, I assume we take the word of Fork management, including the one who seems to have tapped into Wikia's traffic flow for third-party gain.) It is more annoying, as with Hack writer, when the Fork does not lift our stories until our VFH finishes vetting them. The Mother Ship cannot survive by having a monopoly on our best content, as we agree it will be given away before we write it. We survive because Wikia is well-capitalized, whereas the Fork is just another American business racing toward the end of its seed funding with nothing but certainty that the world will instantly see its inventory of free stuff as worth paying for. Spıke ¬ 18:43 22-Jan-13
PS--Sannse proposes a Sidebar edit at Forum:Links to the other wiki in the sidebar that only an Admin can do. Spıke ¬ 18:50 22-Jan-13
Let the record show that I did not support any migration bot, for the sake of ethics towards authors and good-spirited competition. -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 18:52, Jan. 22, 2013
They don't need permission, or even notification, but rather, proper attribution. I personally don't even care that much that they took it. Rather, I just find it funny that the site containing "the community" needs to steal articles from "empty" evil-Wikia site. --Mn-z 18:56, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Your gloating, IT STINGS! -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 19:03, Jan. 22, 2013
Since you here Kip, I will ask you this question. Would you be happy if some programme decides pull your articles into another website without attribution or indeed consent. A long time ago when I didn't understand how wikis worked, I saw an article by Todd Lyons on Uncyclopedia. I had supplied him with some extra lines and he had accepted it. He then re-posted the same story to Illogicopedia - but without my additions. I thought his work had been stolen but he explained he had put it on that site but had removed my extra sections. That was then how I understood how this wiki thing worked. But there is also a matter of good faith and telling writers 'we want you to write for our site but if your stuff is no good, we'll just take what ever SPIKE or myself has written on theirs with this bot. All the work I have done before the split is now at the Fork - and I accept that. But anything created here is my decision about where I want to put it next. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 19:35, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Obvious sexual innuendo aside, I agree with your sentiment. Although TKF is apparently trying to remedy the authorship issue by giving proper attributions on the talk pages. Still, my beef is the principle of taking things from the Wikia version the begin with. It makes us at Free Uncyclopedia (if you will) look petty and lazy. -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 19:47, Jan. 22, 2013
I disagree with Romartus's interpretation. Where there is no ownership, there is no control. You are entitled to attribution--by your name remaining in the Change History--but not to make demands on them, such as that they don't change your stuff or even not pervert your creative goal in writing it. Articles begun tomorrow are subject to the same thing. Our work is worth every penny we agreed not to demand when we submitted the stuff. And I can view it with a personal copy of Mozilla, on which I rip out the code for the Juice Bar or whatever it's called, and recompile it and give you a copy. The interesting question is still: Can you sustain a website around content of no commercial value? I claim that Wikia can, and Acme Wiki cannot. Spıke ¬ 19:53 22-Jan-13
I would agree with Spike, the issue isn't article control, which we surrender by the Creative Common license, but proper attribution. It seems like TKF is adding attribution (of sorts) to articles. I'm not sure if a talk page comment would satisfy the attribution requirements, but I don't know off hand. --Mn-z 20:03, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
By the way, a wiki that provided the added-value of ensuring that all your reads were good reads (say, Acme Wiki after Mega Forest Fire Week '13) still doesn't survive, as it doesn't gain readers faster than it loses authors. Spıke ¬ 20:05 22-Jan-13
I do understand that an article submitted to this Wikia hosted site cannot be claimed with 'author's rights'. That is why I gave you Todd Lyons as an example. He didn't have to remove my material to put his story elsewhere, but he did nevertheless. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Attribution is important, of course, and the site probably understands that. It seems most of the sites articles are all being written and nommed by Sir Peesalot. I've been moving all my UnNews pages there, and will do so with pages too, but am writing them and polishing them and putting them here first (since I'm doing most of the writing here, both because it feels good here, the energy has picked up again and quite a few of the good users are here, and because of the in-page link fixture). On that topic, does anyone know when we lost the in-page File feature, where you could schroll down the pics and little images of them would show up so you could choose which one you wanted? I always used that, and now it's gone (is it because each of the files has been renamed "Image - Cow tipping.jpg" in that format and not in the old "File:Jesus stubbing his toe.PNEG" format? Thanks. Aleister 20:19 22-1-'13
There has been so much strange activity on this site of late...I don't know is the answer. Ask a 'techie'. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:30, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
With the above, I was only talking about the ownership rights under CC-BY as I understand them. Romartus, you might be talking about additional restrictions imposed by Wikia against a community member misusing the work of another community member, about which I know nothing. User names are common throughout Wikia (except here) and that is why a History entry is sufficient attribution, something that is not true from us to the Fork, which is not bound to respect our usernames, hence the talk-page text. Spıke ¬ 20:58 22-Jan-13

UPDATE: The knuckleheads on IRC got off the topic of stripper pole exercising long enough for me to bring it up, prompting RAHB to take action by infinibanning TheBorrower bot and deleting the exported UnNews articles. The issue is as good as over. -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 21:00, Jan. 22, 2013

Seems fair. My talk page attribution was a bit of a stopgap. I hate deleting quality content anywhere, and there's definitely been things sporked from external blogs and such in the past (when attribution was given and it wasn't taken from, say, a commercial joint like the Onion), but it definitely would have been irky if that was allowed to keep going. Seriously, let's just keep these two places separate. --Littleboyonly TKFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Oldmanonly 21:04, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Thank you TKF, Kip and RAHB. Then for me this matter has been resolved and I appreciate that it has stopped. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:09, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
I for one, would have preferred that Free Uncyclopedia kept the article stealing going a bit longer. I found it both amusing and ego-stroking. --Mn-z 14:12, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

No Bullying, Please

You may be a star here, but you do not have the right to harass other contributors on their pages. If you visit my page again with abusive comments, I reserve the right to take appropriate action. Thank you. Heenan73 (talk) 21:09, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

That was Leverage's story on the other Uncyclopedia. You put it here as your own without attribution. That violates the Unwritten Code (Starter Pack 2.1). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Romartus, I worked with this author yesterday on the development of the UnNews. I don't know where he got the concept, but it is based on actual news in the British press, we usually welcome multiple articles on a single topic, and I think that most of his material is original. It was originally not an UnNews at all but an addition to Tesco which I saw come in. Please review User talk:Heenan73. Spıke ¬ 21:22 22-Jan-13
Separately, Heenan73, there is no "appropriate action" because, as we have been discussing on this page, no one owns anything. This website is currently undergoing an exodus of some of its authors to a parallel site and is unusually suspicious about copying content. Spıke ¬ 21:23 22-Jan-13
I have apologised to Heenan73 on his talk page. I guess it was a bit of bad luck for him to walk in the room when I was 'bot' and 'sock' hunting. I had hoped not to have reached the Paranoia stage quite yet after a year but I guess it can get to all admins. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:59, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
You think that's bad? I thought Guildenstern and GlobalTourniquet were socks of each other for over a year. --Littleboyonly TKFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Oldmanonly 22:00, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
A demonstration of Why I Got Those Froggy Blues would have resolved it. And the beard. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:03, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Feature nommmmmed

I feature nommed one of your roman emperor pages I came across in Random page (I was trying to leave Spike's talk page, which always takes a Random page or some other hit to get out of, the luck of the draw). Just feature them all, is what I say, and up the intelligence of our total feature collection by 20 IQ points. Aleister FreeZanaMovement'13

Why

Why did you block Aimsplode for one week stating that you are restoring an original block of 3 days by ChiefjusticeDS when Chief unblocked Aimsplode himself? Madclaw @ talk 01:02, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Aimsplode's nomination was stricken from the page for all the reasons explained by Chief. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 08:51, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
That still does not answer my question, I asked you why you blocked him after Chief himself unblocked him. Madclaw @ talk 14:16, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
THe Chief was off-line so I re-imposed the longer ban when I checked what was going on VFS. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 14:39, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

talk VFS

I noticed you have removed a discussion between Mnbvcxz and myself, from what I have read no one has "inflamed" me and you have in fact removed a perfectly normal discussion about policy and wiki coding. Removing civil interactions between users strikes me as a bit odd especially when done by an administrator. It would behoove you to put the discussion back. Thank you in advance and have a nice day Madclaw talk 16:56, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

In Romartus's defense, our discussion had very little to do with VFS. Also, Romartus did contradict some of what I said about linking to other wikis in sigs. Spike said no, I said yes, Romartus said maybe. I remember sigs that linked to other wikis in the past, but I'm not up do date on Wikia's current policies, so I could be wrong. --Mn-z 17:02, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
I checked the history of the VFS talk page...I didn't remove your comment. I added mine about the inflame/sig issue. Regards the Sig issue, spammers etc do that all the time 'come to easyfit kitchens etc' which counts as a commercial - or one linking with a porn site or some cyberbullying page. You said your site is non-wikia. It's a question I will check with Sannse. She can let us know the situation. I will link her to this conversation. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:07, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
You did remove a large chunk of conversation as seen when you scroll down after clicking this link Madclaw talk 17:11, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Ok thanks. Reverted. Don't know what happened there. Blame Wikia? (seems a popular sport). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:20, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Blame Wikia, works for me Madclaw talk 17:27, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

I've seen a couple of cases where the edit conflict detection doesn't kick in correctly.. I'll get someone to do some testing and see if he can reproduce it -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 18:41, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

!!!!!!PENISPENISPENIS!!!!!!

By deleting this, you have as good as put a curse on this Uncyclopedia. -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 20:45, Jan. 24, 2013

Aha...Kip lad....lend me that crossbow...I see an albatross in the rigging....--LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:01, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

That image…

…at the top of your talk page. I'm now imagining Lincoln singing “Cocaine blues” at Folsom.                               Puppy's talk page10:04 24 Jan

Now that would be an idea. I would imagine the Gettysburg Address sung to the tune of Clapton's 'Cocaine'. One song sang to the tune of another...(a © idea from another place in case any hungry content bot is listening). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:12, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
I've sung "Amazing Grace" to the tune of "Gilligan's Island theme" before. That works scarily well.                               Puppy's talk page10:40 24 Jan
Know the name of the prog but never watched it. I am more of the Batman TV era and the Banana Splits. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 23:04, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
I'll have to check out the words and sing that one to "Gilligan's Island". Why not a page where those two songs and a few others are written, pictured (the Lincoln is a classic, nomnomnom), and then a good singer can record all the songs on the page, like a mini-album. Romartus, thanks for the "man marries brown rice" feature. I wouldn't have nommed it if I didn't think it was feature-worthy, and what made it that is the youtube (to keep with the theme) of Caruso singing (the caption "Tommy Lee Caruso sings for his supper on their wedding night" had me laughing so hard at the time that I could hardly type the words). There's a Joan Baez song about hearing a recording of Caruso in his prime, and what it did for her. I don't know if the song I have on his page is from his prime years. I have an album of his, but no record player at the moment - must get one of those if Tom Edison is still cranking them out. Thanks again! Aleister 11:53 25-1-'13
I can sing it. Assuming your dog has recovered from last time.                               Puppy's talk page12:23 25 Jan
Is that a "yes" for an article? I'll add a song to it if you guys don't mind, don't know which one though. We could do it in sections, with a fake history paragraph before each set of lyrics (Romartus could write a great history paragraph describing Lincoln at Gettysburg). Hmmmmmmm. Aleister 12:27 25-1-'13
Pure coincidence but I was playing with a (very rough) song idea in the spambox earlier. And I had a vague idea for an article “translating” hip hop songs into English by using literal meaning (starting with “gold digger”). But the creative juices are still a tad dry.                               Puppy's talk page12:33 25 Jan
Try this Aleister 12:51 25-1-'13
Going back a bit...who would write a song about leaving a cake in the rain and have the the first Dumbledore sing it? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:53, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Evil ear worm! It's almost as bad as if I'd been to paradise, but I'd never been to me.                               Puppy's talk page12:57 25 Jan
Hmm.I know that song, I can see her face....and then people just disappear. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:58, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Not original to me, but some comedian was asking how Petula Clark got such a loser boyfriend who sleeps on the subway and stands out in the pouring rain. Aleister 12:58 25-1-'13
I always felt men falling like rain and hitting terminal velocity prior to impact with the ground would be pretty messy. Which makes the weather girls exhortation to “get yourself wet” a rather macabre invitation.                               Puppy's talk page01:03 25 Jan
She was talking only to the women (hey, that link reminds me, where's your masterpiece warning page?). Aleister
I must get back to that. When I'm not busy.                               Puppy's talk page01:13 25 Jan
Try this wikipedia [user talk page], I've never seen this one. Laughs aplenty. Al minutes later
Wow! That was just… I'm speechless.                               Puppy's talk page01:50 25 Jan

Liberal Party of Great Britain

has some images that may be in need of censoring due to Wikia's policies. --Mn-z 19:49, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Since the split, I am not aware that any image has been removed or requested to be censored on an existing article, so I will leave it as it is until things are a bit clearer. Thanks for the shout --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:12, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
We should also review the way the images are censored. What had been done previously seemed to be a bit of overkill IMO. Strategic placement of a block would be more effective than gigantic banners across the images, which were done partially as an objection to the request for gentrification.                               Puppy's talk page11:30 25 Jan
The banners were making a rather obvious point about who was objecting and who was photoshopping them. Right now, that is on the back burner as we still need to get that new template finished and approved. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 23:40, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Which I'd put on the backburner as I'd been focused on VFS and stuff off-site.                               Puppy's talk page11:50 25 Jan
Yes, Lyrithya's cats remain for a little longer until a sticker goes on a window 'Moggies Require New Home', --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:09, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Moggies to be exhumed and brought back to life by an evil genius.                               Puppy's talk page12:33 26 Jan
Template looks good. Suggest we make a * for the word humor on the lines of. Spelt Humour in Britain, Craik in Ireland, Sledging in Australia, Hobbit in New Zealand and Moose in Canada. For all other countries where English serves as the lingua franca, Mr Bean will suffice. Something like that. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:50, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Parliamentary Reform in Britain on VFD

Can you do anything with this? Please reply either way on UN:VFD. Spıke ¬ 20:23 25-Jan-13

Ok. Put a fix tag on it and I will knock something out that will be an improvement - just as long as I don't make it too long (my abiding sin). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:15, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
If it's about women getting the vote it could be very long. I enlarged to pic to read it, and never knew that until the 1890s only Wyoming - in the whole world - gave women the vote! And not much better for the next 20 years. New Zealand was alone as a nation for a long time in letting women vote. Man, we treated them like dogs. Aleister 23:38 25-1-'13
Parliamentary reform had to do with voting rights in the United Kingdom. Britain pre-1832 constituency sizes were far from consistent. Some constituencies could were effectively controlled by a single patron, wereas other constituencies had over ten thousand voters. See wikipedia:Parliamentary_Reform_Act_1832 for more info. --Mn-z 13:11, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

UnNews:UnNews reporter comes back from the dead: Only to realize his guiding bird is a duck

I can't tell if this vanity, or just bad writing. --Mn-z 12:30, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

I read the last line that he wanted it moved to user sub pages. So I have done that. See what develops from there. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:35, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
I have seen you have written the 'Labor Party'. There is an Australian Labor Party (a quirk of that party's history the adopted the American spelling rather than the standard British one). Also..a link for you. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-546072/American-man-claims-months-pregnant-baby-girl.html --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:39, January 26, 2013 (UTC).
The “Australian Labor Party” was created from a fork of the “Labour Party”. The original party now no longer exists in any really meaningful way. There is also a “Democratic Labour Party” as well as a very minor presence. They may have dropped off the map altogether tbh. (It is Australia Day for another 15 minutes here.)                               Puppy's talk page12:46 26 Jan
Ha of course. Australia day! BTW..one of the best books I read about Australia was 'The Fatal Shore' by the late Robert Hughes. I recall reading the story about how a convict escaped from a prison dressed as a giant kangaroo. He got caught but I laughed out loud on a train when I saw that! A bit like that programme about the guy in the dog costume who is only visible in that form to his 'owner'. To everyone else, he is just a dumb dog. Very clever concept! --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 13:00, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Speaking of the ALP and Aussie books there's a good series by Shane Maloney about an ALP staffer. Starts with “Stiffs” which was later made into a movie starting the guy who was in that other movie, otherwise known as David Wenham, or the hunchbacked guy from 300. It's a good read, but also odd for me to read it as he mentions a whole bunch of places from my childhood and early 20's in it.                               Puppy's talk page01:11 26 Jan

What in hell?

Thanks for protecting The Onion. That particular page-blanker had a ton of IP addresses up his sleeve.

Continental philosophy as of last 15-Jun contains a rhetorical invitation, "(Someone with more knowledge than "lawl Judtih Butlerz hard to reed", please help me here)." Anarchos today seems to have accepted the invitation and has written six pointy-headed paragraphs which might be ridiculing intellectualism through pseudo-intellectualism and irony, but are way too dense to be funny. My inclination is to revert but wanted a second opinion on whether this stuff could possibly appeal to anyone.

Getting denser, Jinet Jiqet and Tetrageist are having a deep discussion of atheism at User:Tetrageist. It might have started as a proposal for a joint writing project, but at this point, it at least reflects a serious misunderstanding of which website they are on.

I am happy to dump this all in your lap! Spıke ¬ 23:43 27-Jan-13

With regard to that-- apologies. That was a Skype conversation that Jin inappropriately spilled onto my user page, also before I was aware that he was/is an Encyclopedian. Disregard all of it. He misinterpreted what I said to begin with. It's now gone. -tetra (talk) 03:06, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
Also, I've said this on my talk page but what you see there is temporary filler while I get myself oriented. Will renovate my userpage for its true purpose once I have a grasp of wiki formatting in general. Pretend I don't exist for a week or so, and then we can all be peas and carrots. -tetra (talk) 03:13, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
Don't stress it. Your user page is your playground (within reason). The concern was more with someone else using your user page as a talk page. I undid the edits there, and spoke to the other party.
Welcome to the team! Any help you need with wiki format simply ask.                               Puppy's talk page03:21 29 Jan
Thanks for your support, and for the welcome! I do hope to stick around for a while. (Heh, think I just decoded a bit of formatting on the way, too. Wee, this is fun!) -tetra (talk) 03:26, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

How do I start a new page? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drfg (talk • contribs)

I think you wait out the end of a short ban first. Spıke ¬ 00:44 28-Jan-13

Could you please delete my account and my email.this is drfg can you delete my account please and confirm it on my email

No. Nobody can delete your account. Just stop using it if you don't want it around.                               Puppy's talk page05:19 28 Jan

Your edit summary on MediaWiki:Sidebar

The way you phrased it may make it sound like Wikia forced the issue. I the community brought the issue up, and I don't think Wikia is forcing the matter. While Wikia doesn't want links to the other wiki, the main issue was the lack of reciprocity in the links. I.e. the links don't link back here and, as the wikis diverge with time, they will reference content that isn't even here. The way you phrased the edit might cause a "ZOMG WIKIA IZ CONTROLING EVERTHINGZ!" panic among certain segments of uncyclopedia.

And on a related note, I think the e-store link is dead. --Mn-z 20:03, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

The issue of removing those links was a matter of when and not why Mnz. This now means this site can develop its own links to Facebook or Twitter accounts that point to this website's content. I haven't checked the e-store link so you're probably right. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:33, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
Seconded. I don't see the text of a Change Summary as major or as an authoritative document (nor see any way to edit it!) but the desire that our Sidebar not divert clicks or cash to the Fork is not just Wikia's request but mine too. Puppy also noticed it, and came to me with a "What do you make of this?!" Spıke ¬ 22:06 29-Jan-13
On separate issues:
  • Kremdog (6 total edits) has "reposted" Gun control in the U.S. and you have discussed it with him. Reposted from where? the Fork I assume, as he has asked Frosty about getting history information for it. If it is reposted from the mirror, someone had better have a plan to improve it or understand why it was deleted.
  • Anon this noon increased the size of Infinity by 200 Kb, a sum I am not willing to count against my monthly byte quota to view. I'd guess this is vandalism. Spıke ¬ 22:12 29-Jan-13
I removed that chunk of text and reverted the Infinity edit. Don't know where Kremdog got the article so perhaps Frosty could answer that question. I added an image but otherwise, I haven't gone through it. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:44, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
  • E-store is dead. The fork have created a new store that they are hosting somewhere over that direction.
  • If we are removing links that have a second level direct back to the fork, then IRC now directs almost exclusively to the fork. We don't have an alternative IRC.
  • Gun control in the U.S. is not hosted on the mirror site, although it may be on the fork. I responded to Kremdog on Frosty's talkpage, as the issue whould really go back through Chief as the original deleterer.
  • My dog's farts are smelly. I know this is unrelated to the topics above, but we're currently in an enclosed room and the stench is rather overwhelming.                               Puppy's talk page11:37 29 Jan

Puppy, I appreciate your research. (Well, almost all of it.) I see that the gun-control article was not voted deleted but simply had a {{WIP}} expire, and reincarnation is fair if this Kremdog now intends to complete it. Spıke ¬ 23:44 29-Jan-13

The Game

To complete this afternoon's patrol: I think your {{Fix}} here is too charitable. Anon's version is not going to get much better. Spıke ¬ 23:51 29-Jan-13

You may appreciate this...

There's been a discussion on my talk page at FreeUncy after Sir Peesalot asked me if I was a boy or a girl, and I answered him honestly (maybe). Then even though I tried to go on to give him advice, it got weirder as more people joined in, and now I don't know myself if I'm a boy or a girl. So confused. The section is near the bottom of my FreeUncy talk page at dammit, are you a girl or a boy?. I hope the link works, if not, my name there is just "Aleister" Aleister or... 1:15 30-1-'13 (it works kind of but took my machine a long time to load)

Glad to see there's a hive of in depth activity over there. But then some people still think Sims is a guy - despite the signature which strongly suggests otherwise. Perhaps it is a net thing. The more you say you are one thing/gender, the more people believe you are hiding something. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 06:45, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
Ahhh...you mentioned two four letter words that are guaranteed to raise the hackles in certain quarters. Anyway, you can only be banned on the site where you post your comments, though admittedly if you said it to the same admin on either site, they can actually kill you twice. Strange thought isn't it? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 06:55, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

The Big O

Repeating a request I first made of Puppy, who seems to have left the office--Would you care to moderate a creative dispute I am having with new user Steamslinger regarding The Big O? He reasserts an addition he first made as Anon that I have reverted as ranty. As he picked a user name, he ought to have the benefit of an independent set of eyes. Spıke ¬ 22:21 30-Jan-13

Ok. I will check. Thanks Spike. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:22, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
Had a look. Has a touch of the Angry Kid about it but as I have no clue about this particular anime series. At least there is an attempt to write paragraphs and extend the joke...so I will let this one stay. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:35, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. So perhaps ranty is the right thing in context? I'll let him know. Spıke ¬ 22:38 30-Jan-13

Race condition! Puppy did see my request, read the material and came to the opposite conclusion, and has detailed editing advice for the new guy. I won't add anything. Spıke ¬ 22:40 30-Jan-13

Similar conclusion. He's tried to extend the joke. Problem is that it still hasn't worked. I'm letting it stay so he has a chance to improve rather than just keep adding into it. My proviso was though that he has a few days before I bulldoze it and recreate it. I also know nothing about the series, but what he has added has the potential to be funny if done another way.                               Puppy's talk page10:44 30 Jan

Another creative conflict

New user ThePartTimeGroucho is now 3-for-3 in getting his edits reverted by me. On two of the three, I have explained on his talk page. Separately, he seems to have an animus about African Americans, but also to think it is inherently funny. Again we might benefit from the intervention of a third party. Cheers. Spıke ¬ 23:56 30-Jan-13

PS--He is now in with a crap edit on Ku Klux Klan that needs reverting on the same grounds. Spıke ¬ 00:03 31-Jan-13

PPS--Handled (for now); thank you, gentlemen. (Aleister, I mean to say, ah give y'all props, Homie.) Spıke ¬ 00:18 31-Jan-13

VFH

Spike made a point on my talk page. Can you please remove:

<div style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-size:120%;">'''VFH status:'''</span><br />'''{{VFHhealth}}''' votes per article • Goal: '''15'''</div>
{{progressbar|total=25|{{VFHhealth}}|center=yes|header=no|width=50%}}

From VFH. It's charting our progress towards lukewarm at present. We can incorporate VFH status: {{VFHhealth}} votes per article. somewhere else if we really need to keep track, but that (now unrealistic) goal and the progress bar are somewhat useless and makes us look stupid.                               Puppy's talk page01:46 31 Jan

Trying to locate that link (never said I was a coder!). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:44, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
It's about 2 or 3 lines into the page.                               Puppy's talk page09:51 31 Jan

 !ENDVALUE! vandal

How about Autoconfirmed protection for Template talk:German and Template talk:Britain? He always changes his IP, but he often attacks here. What need does Anon have for access to the talk page of two templates? Spıke ¬ 19:04 31-Jan-13

Locked. Thanks Spike. Good point as regards templates. Why indeed? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 19:24, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Your Welcome page

I took a copy of User:Romartus/Welcome to tweak it for my own use. You have, at the end, a message to a specific user that you don't want to send to future recipients of the welcome. Spıke ¬ 20:03 31-Jan-13

I removed the addition intended for a specific user. --Chiefjustice32X 20:28, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Chief. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:38, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Congrats

You won Uncyclopedian of the Year, and well deserved. The other site has its winners, but that does not in any way lessen this great award. Congratulations!!! Aleister 00:05 2-1-'13

And not only that, this wonderful day in Uncyclopedia history includes the featuring of the Epic! Should be a holiday every year. I hope HoGB stays on the main page for a week, and maybe now I'll actually read it all the way and give myself an education. Aleister
I still think Schama's take was funnier, but likewise congrats!                               Puppy's talk page01:26 02 Feb
Thanks Pup. It's featured on both sites and I am still working on the 'epic'. Odd thing is, I really wrote it for myself to see how much nonsense I could weave in an updated spirit of the classic book 1066 and All That. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:47, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

VFH

I've done work on the "Guy who invented soap" vhf and added a good pic. So if you have a minute grab another look. Thanks. As for VFH, I think we're close to the point where a second-way to feature a page could be thought about. My idea of a "panel" of you, Spike, and Chief - all of you hard votes on vfh - to either vote a page a feature or to show the author weak points (as you did with the Soap page) so they could fix them, would serve as another gateway for pages. It would peer review them. That would leave two routes to feature, the peer review panel of discerning voters and the minumum number of votes. I'd prefer the peer review route myself, although it would have to be even selective in pages it chooses to discuss. Aleister 14:27 3-2-'13

Triumvirātus præmiōrum Spıke ¬ 14:41 3-Feb-13

Skipping a Day

It looks like UnNews:Medical Cause of Unpregnancy Fetishism Discovered is being featured on the 5th. However, if we are featuring for 2 days, it should be on the 4th. --Mn-z 15:21, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixed. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:11, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Al Obama

Looks like a copy of Alabama. --Mn-z 17:14, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

We could delete one and leave a redirect. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:59, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
User Kaint@yo a month ago, presumably from the American right-wing, hit a lot of subjects, such as al-Obama, al-Gore, and al-Jazeera. Unfortunately, he came to the conclusion that a good way to make a pun is to create an article with a name that no one will ever type. The two articles are not exact copies, as he has transliterated "Alabama" to "Al Obama" throughout. However, in my opinion, no one cares. Huff it and don't leave a redirect. Spıke ¬ 18:06 3-Feb-13
PS--I'll take this to VFD. Spıke ¬ 18:19 3-Feb-13

User:CartoonistHenning

Apparently, his page hard redirects to Free Uncyclopedia. The code [[nl:en:<pagename>]] apparently redirects to free Uncyclopedia. The code, [[nl:<pagename>]] redirects to http://oncyclopedia.net, the Dutch Uncyclopedia. Interestingly, on Free Uncyclopedia, the code [[:it:en:<pagename>]] will redirect back here.

Here is how I think it works. [[nl:<pagename>]] redirects to the Dutch Uncyclopedia, the code [[nl:en:<pagename>]] re-redirects to Dutch Uncyclopedia's English link, which is Free Uncyclopedia. Since the Italian uncyclo still links to wikia site, such code would move the reader back here.

My point is that userpages should not hard redirect off the wiki. In fact, I might go so far as to say nothing should ever hard redirect of the wiki. --Mn-z 18:12, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed; he is using Wikia's resources to divert traffic away from Wikia. The definition of Uncyclopedia on foreign wikis, changed by an inoccuous message to a friend, like the WP:Uncyclopedia entry where Aimsplode described us as a "deprecated....sandbox," is just one more battlefield to portray the Fork as the real Uncyclopedia. They can own a copy of the database but they do not have the legal right to the term. Spıke ¬ 18:19 3-Feb-13
Ok, have removed the redirects. The links are on the user and talk pages as per others who have moved elsewhere. Matter closed. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:10, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

King Rich

Ah, you beat me, I came her to write the UnNews. The angle I was going to use, if you'd like to dd it, was that the skeleton of Richard was demanding the skeleton of a horse. "A skeleton of a horse, a skeleton of a horse, my kingdom (a parking lot in Leicester) for a skeleton of a horse". I posted the story on Above Top Secret, apparantly the first there. Leverage hasn't gotten onto it yet, but I expect a masterpiece from that dodger. Aleister 12:28 4-1-'13

I was watching it on the computer (it was a live feed on BBC 24). Feel free to do your own take! --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:38, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
There's a tv show tonight. This is a pretty big deal, and Al Pacino is salivating somewhere, wanting the skull for his very own. No, but thanks, one story is enough. Maybe tomorrow I'll write up the horse skeleton one as a follow-up, but yours deserves the showcase. The pic is great, and should be in every textbook. If I knew how to load a pic onto my computer and transfer it I'd move it to my thread at Above Top Secret, but they would just remove it because of the suspicious cig in the King's mouth. Al 12:44
The cigarette is in the painting. The one I used is by Van Gogh. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:50, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
I thought it was a bit familiar, my ignorance surrounds me. The cig looks like grass, but because it isn't it could pass muster at ats. Aleister 13:25
I have that as a framed repro at home which is why I remembered. Saw the original in the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 13:28, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
Nice, and it's nice to use something you like enough to hang in your home on one of your pages. I really have to learn how to load pictures, but everytime I try I'm missing something and can't do it. Maybe I should make that a New Year's goal for 2014 and start studying. The tv show tonight on Richard is on Channel 4, about a King in a parking lot or something. lol: "A handicapped parking space, a handicapped parking space, my below-ground lot for a handicapped parking space." Al 13:35
Do you mean uploading or photoshopping? BTW, I like the Al Pacino angle. If I recall he played Richard III like a mafia boss but wasn't that him 'trying to find the role' rather than actually playing Richard III? Trying to recall info than going for a wiki click. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 14:30, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
Pacino loves Shakespeare's Richard. He used his personal money to finance his own movie "Looking for Richard" which is very good, and if you haven't seen it, there you go. It's more of a movie and documentary. There is also a Richard III Society, who must be very happy today. The talk on the thread is about if RIII will have a state funeral, where he should be buried, nad one woman who is a racist talking about how Leicester is now Asian and no longer English. We live and learn. Aleister 18:59 4-2-'13

"Test, just a test"

Anon (not always at the same IP) seems anxious to delete the contents of User:Twinkleblue43/guestbook. I have reverted three times, and informed him via Change Summary that he is free to do so by logging on as himself. What do you reckon the "test" is? I think it's to test whether Uncyclopedia is completely deserted and undefended. I'm inclined to protect this userpage to Autoconfirmed. Another IP wants us to huff the personal pages of Mike heat; I likewise said he'd have to do so as himself. Spıke ¬ 14:57 4-Feb-13

You could lock it and ban the IP for reverting you (3 days). I don't let IPs huff pages, personal or user ones. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:37, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the second opinion. Spıke ¬ 16:55 4-Feb-13

You removed the {{VFD}} from Great Library of Alexander, commenting, Removed delete template..unless that was part of the joke). It is not; the article is a VFD save and it is still listed on VFD, though the vote is now 2-0 Keep. If you want to declare it kept, that would be fine. Never mind; this is done. Spıke ¬ 17:57 4-Feb-13

History of Great Britain, promises made, promises broken, sadness and wringing of hands

You promised me once only four footnotes in HoGB (I just invited an English history buff to look at the page), and there are seven. Seven! An unfunny amount of footnotes, whereas four broke me up one time and I laughed and laughed and laughed. I hope you never make a pact with the devil, as the devil would know you lie and would be very sad too. Dejectedly yours, Aleister 19:46

MTTB and Talk:Pizza Planet

I agree that his actions are in good faith. And the talk page is effectively an attempt and doing another version of the same article - and it's pathetic. So I've restored the page because of the concept of "don't blank", but added to VFD on the concept of "deleteable garbage", but there's no way I'd want to blank someone for what I assume is good willed ignorance rather than maliciousness or vandalism. I ummed and aahed over whether QVFD was more suitable but because it has been around for so long - and we've all missed seeing it for so long - I figured by our deletion policy this was the best way to go. Feel free to just delete it instead though - your call, and I'm not going to argue.                               Puppy's talk page09:40 05 Feb

Ah...MTTB had his own template? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 10:50, February 5, 2013 (UTC)
I use brains goodly.                               Puppy's talk page11:11 05 Feb

my talk page

Why have you reverted my edits and protected my talk page? The message is still in the history, and I would prefer that the page be blanked. sumone10154(talk) 07:30, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

As much as I hate when questions are answered with questions, why do you want it deleted? Spike's message was in short why we wouldn't want to delete the page.                               Puppy's talk page07:40 06 Feb
The option is to put 'Retired' on your talk page with a link to your archived discussion in case anyone wants to contact you here again. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 07:41, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

User:Dannyboy1209

I believe you adopted this one? He is getting confrontational on his talk page and continuing to make overtly unfunny edits to various articles despite my best attempt to tell him what is wrong and how to learn to do better. Spıke ¬ 15:54 6-Feb-13

Oh yes I did. I will pop over to his page. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:49, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Help me fix my user page.

Yes this is just a blatent cry for help- I've been gone so long I can't remember (or did something change...?) how to fix my formatting problems on my user page- this is preventing me from being creative and writing more articles- or I'm just too lazy to try and figure it out myself using the format guide- help?--Spqr Sir Claudius CUN VFH (carpe diem) 22:48, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hail Claudius! I am no whizz with the formatting issue so I am not sure if I can help loads. Suggest you ask Mnbvcxz, Simsilikesims or PuppyOnTheRadio - say I pointed you in their general direction. I am writer/editor first, a thingy wotsit second. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 07:00, February 7, 2013 (UTC)
When I have time I'll look at it, although I'll need to know what you want it to look like.                               Puppy's talk page09:22 07 Feb
Well it used to not look like shite that's for sure! Those info boxes were all spaced out and organized- now they are all bunched together....any help you can give I would appreciate- I will look into cleaning up myself today if I can figure it out.--Spqr Sir Claudius CUN VFH (carpe diem) 17:44, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Soap guy

Thanks for your vote on the soap guy page. Because of your initial abstain I polished, added content, and added a pic and caption. So with three votes it should be ready for featuring! (it had six at the fork last time I checked, going for the gold, ah, soap). What do you think of my idea of you, Spike, Chief, and Puppy acting as judges for features if we don't get enough votes? It'd be a way to offer suggestions without having to do a complete pee review, and would make everyone do some polishing, etc., which is what has been lacking with the feature votes. Well, what's next on your table? Thanks again. Al 20:10 7-2-'13

Me, I think this proposed reorganization is a thinly-veiled sham to ensure that I will finally read all your stuff. Harsh and grumpy ¬ 20:22 7-Feb-13
lol at your sig (and I only say that if I am lol. Have only FOMCROFL once in my life). You don't read my stuff? I thought everyone read my stuff, all 50,000 visitors a day. Life is unfair when you're a young African-American unwed mother living in rural Mississippi, I can tell you that. Al 20:31 same day

Welcome message

Acting on your prodding from a couple weeks ago, I adapted your welcome message to create User:SPIKE/Welcome. I am not saying you should adopt my changes, but the section on "How to post to talk pages" I based on your repeated advice to newbies to do stuff no one ever told them to do in the first place. These are scoldings for not imitating adequately!

Separately, at present I am copying and pasting on each occurrence. I dabbled with {{subst: but found it inserted a red-link instead of the file, at least in Preview. At any rate, I'm not hitting everyone, as you and Simsie are, but only guys who have made edits, and typically appending a comment on their edits. Spıke ¬ 14:44 8-Feb-13

PS--Thanks, Puppy, for verifying that there is no malfunction. I had added a vertical bar that spoiled it. Nevertheless, I think I will stay with copypasting (despite having to pay per gigabyte) rather than depending on myself to type this correctly in the future.

Floyd

This was uploaded in one Big Gulp. I presume it is a creation from Yuky Doody Pedia for which the author wants additional eyes. I see the coherent use of a humor technique (illustrate stupidity by being stupid), but I personally do not want it, at least not from Anon. Please do whatever is consistent with what we intend to do about sporks. Spıke ¬ 15:53 8-Feb-13

Out of curiosity, do you mean illogicopedia, or is there another silly wiki I haven't heard of. --Mn-z 16:07, February 8, 2013 (UTC)
I meant the Fork, but I concede I don't know where Floyd comes from. Spıke ¬ 16:13 8-Feb-13
Quick google search for the first couple of sentences picked up about a dozen or so entries, ranging from a week to two years ago (roughly). It looks like copypasta randumbo that's floated around for a while. It's unoriginal, but I can't pinpoint the original source.                               Puppy's talk page09:26 08 Feb
Overlooked the original. Complete copy-paste of stupid but under someone's name. Pure UN:CB.                               Puppy's talk page09:29 08 Feb

No, under Anon's IP. Correctly filed on QVFD and now it's gone. Thanks for the research. Spıke ¬ 21:36 8-Feb-13

Thanks

Thanks for nominating my article! Equilateralperil 02:32, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

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