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Pictures in the army article. yeah. lol. that's fun enough now, let's keep it your way.


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Archives: 1-Feb '13 to May '13


As SPIKE was saying...

As I was saying. Spıke ¬ 19:56 28-May-13

Remember the heading, for God's sake! Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 20:06, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
Damn! I so wanted to write the first word on the Reverend's talk page. Oh well I shall take it like a man (see above). Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:23, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Heading? Reverend, when raping a virgin talk page, I should hardly have to spring for cocktails first. Spıke ¬ 20:59 28-May-13

So you wanna ban Christmas, huh?

Me and my boys got somemin' to say to you on that subject. Somemin' that'll change your ways. YOU ARE A BAH HUMBUG!!!!!

Have you never heard of Scrooge. The whole purpose of the story Darwin Dickens wrote was not to show how to be nice to people but what Santa and Christmas does to you if you stop believing in them. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:30, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

And I think the plight of Tim Crachit shows what happens to those who do believe, ie. rickets/polio/near-death-at-the-hands-of-the-capitalist-oppressors. What's more, no-one ever comes to midnight mass any more. I spend weeks writing the perfect sermon, and no-one comes. Well, they're all twats. So there. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 21:30, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
Damn it man pull yourself together, you're English, the only two rude words you know are "bloody" and "jolly." Reverend I am not exactly the most Capitalist of men out there and I still love a festival like Christmas. Just learn to be happy and have a relaxing break instead of getting wound up by it. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:27, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

The UnSignpost hath cometh

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:24, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

QVFD

Reverend, in both of your recent submissions to QVFD, your judgement about the unsuitability of the pages in question is sound; but there is a political consideration: QVFD effects an instant and silent erasure of work, which might not be how we want to greet a new user who might have potential and who might not know the rules. So, as shown on the page, I have deferred these requests in favor of asking the authors where in hell they are going with their pages. Spıke ¬ 23:59 29-May-13

In future, should I leave articles by new users and such matters to an admin willing to explain on their talk page why their article is wank? Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 19:29, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Coaching the newbies is the part of the job I like, but being an Admin has nothing to do with it. You too are welcome to tell new users why their article is wank (perhaps with words that are not as likely to make them quit), and in fact move really bad ones to their userspace with a note to them on where it went and on what they need to do. (Admin Mordillo recently told ScottPat not to userspace newbies' articles, but I think it is warranted if you believe the article is poor, likely to be stumbled upon by other users to whom it will give a bad impression, and not improving rapidly.) But don't just list their work for deletion; users with user names are entitled to a little due process. Spıke ¬ 20:47 31-May-13

Fair enough. SPIKE has spoken, so it shall be done. On an unrelated note, I've removed the reference to the Grease Fire article up for deletion from the anniversaries. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 20:52, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

User:PuffyMidnightCloud:UnDebate:Is it legal to like Joe ?

I was startled to see you userspacing this one--as I saw it just after deleting PuffyMidnightCloud's UnNews (which was not an UnNews but a rant about the poor quality of other people's UnNewses, citing one in particular). Mordillo has been away for a couple of weeks but might conclude that, with the above mandate, I created a Frankenstein monster.

The issue is that we are flagrantly inconsistent. "Trusted" Uncyclopedians--or Uncyclopedians who merely trust themselves--develop articles in mainspace and get away with it. Newbies are expected to start in their own userspaces and let nothing out without a good Pee Review. That's what our policy documents say, but we don't enforce it, and there are utterly no dividing lines on when someone is good enough to put something incomplete in mainspace. (ScottPat and I are jointly acting on a whim in mainspace with an article that initially was a direct spork from Wikipedia, full of red-links. Grammmamslam obligingly accepted a userspacing from me, but then moved the article back to mainspace with more work but long before it was ready.)

On reviewing the article in question, Puffy seems unaware that there even is a phase called markup (for indentation and so on) (also the need for a comedy strategy or indeed comedy at all) and I think your move is perfectly justified. Spıke ¬ 23:19 31-May-13

I must say, my first (and only real) article was all done in one big upload to main-space. I personally advocate:
  1. A proper policy on when to user-space and when not to, and
  2. Encouraging people to write in MS Word and try to create articles in as few edits as possible. The recent changes is usually filled with a single article being created when copy & paste would've been more appropriate.
I myself (although that's hardly a standard for reference) don't know about phases or markup. Please, enlighten me. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 01:48, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

By the "markup phase" I only mean preparing text to render correctly by MediaWiki (as you did by beginning lines with : and #, or indicating boldfacing with triple quotes). Puffy's UnDebate is not formatted at all.

I endorse everything you wrote except that I won't start using MS Word. The editor in my web browser plus the Uncyclopedia Preview button is a fine open-source alternative. Specifically, I endorse the strategy of getting people to do what you want them to do by stating it in writing. In Uncyclopedia's low-energy current state, though, I don't endorse stiff sanctions against violators. Spıke ¬ 02:00 1-Jun-13

We don't have any sanctions apart from banning, and that's over-reacting just a tad. So long as people use the preview button, that's fine, but I get the impression not that many do. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 02:03, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Well, banning is a "stiff sanction" and userspacing is a gentle sanction. On the Preview button, my current posture is to nag those who seem to need nagging. My welcome message is one of the site's longest and I'm inclined not to lengthen it further with this information. It seems we are "violently in agreement." Spıke ¬ 02:11 1-Jun-13

Rather. With regards to Grammmamslam, his article on User:Grammmamslam/Erwin Rommel, well... It needs a little work, shall we say. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 02:18, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

To be clear, Grammma copied Erwin Rommel to mainspace--as you must know, because you started proofreading it there. Spıke ¬ 02:25 1-Jun-13

Yes, sorry, forgot about that. Is it really ready for main-space? Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 02:26, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure it is. I am sure that Grammma moved it there long before he was done working on it. There is an additional issue here (he edited two Erwins and I don't recall which one this was)--on one of these he first section-blanked an existing mainspace article. Spıke ¬ 02:29 1-Jun-13

VFD

I saw your comment on VFD about hating politicians:

Are you an underpaid hardworking Northerner who hates the government for cutting your benefits? Are you so worried about immigrants and new machinery stealing your jobs as carpenters and builders? Well then we at the Labour Party have a solution. Ed Miliband is an example of a tough, hard working, truly British, lower-class worker. He cares about people like you. The only reason he is head of the Labour Party was because he became Communist for a month just so that he could get the Trade Unions to back him instead of his brother, who we at the Labour Party like to call "David Blair". Yes Ed Miliband doesn't have any policies whatsoever but if he did make any, people wouldn't vote for him so it is best if we keep it that way. One idea John Prescott came up with was "Deindustrialisation." If we get rid of most of the machinery in the United Kingdom then the companies will have to employ hard-working labourers from the North like you and the employment in this country would rise. Also don't support Scottish Independence or we will lose half our seats and never get into power ever again. So vote Labour. Say no to the Conservatives laying waste to the North. Let's return to the good old days of Callaghan and Wilson where this country's government puts forward no new policies and lets the workers riot and strike whenever they want.

That was a political broadcast by the Labour Party, in the interest of balance (it's the BBC here) we will bring you more political party broadcasts over the coming week whether you agree with their views or not. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:34, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not a Northerner! As my biography points out, I hail from the Midlands (Derby area), which allows me to slag off Northerners, Southerners, Westerners and Easterners alike. And Scots. And the Irish. And those bloody Welshers. In short, anyone short-sighted enough to have been born further than 5 miles from that beacon of civility: Derby. Down with Labour/Lib Dems/Conservatives/Everyone! Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 19:34, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Hay mate it was a joke! Anyway for anyone who lives in my area anyone above London is a Northerner (including Derbyshire and the rest of the Midlands). Labour targets Northerners specifically but I never implied you were one. I was simply agreeing with you about how bad British politics has become and wrote a satirical broadcast from the Labour Party. It's there for you to enjoy. Anyway now you mentioned you were from the Midlands:

Come on, you've got to feel sorry for old Nicky. It's just not been a great term for him. There were some minor slip ups involving lying to the voters and an MP being sent to prison and that sort of ruined our reputation as the only uncorrupt party in the UK. But hey, are you a half-rural, half-urban, middle of the road kind of liberal who is hypocritical about how bad private schools are for the country and then sending your children to a private school just "so they can learn how bad they are?" Good then you are a typical voter of our Lib Dem party (see we shortened the name to make it snazzy) either that or you#re half-drunk and wearing a blindfold when you are walking into the polling station. If you vote for us to stay in power for another term that that will increase the chances of exposing even more corrupt politicians in our party and get them sent to jail too. This will halp our party become as uncorrupt as the other two main parties again. When we promise that we won't raise University fees higher we really mean it this time as when we broke our promise last time we raised them so high it is impossible for us to raise it ant higher. If you still are unconvinced about voting for us then perhaps it will comfort you to know that Nick Clegg is cut out to be Prime Minister. He won the David Cameron look-alike competition two years in a row! You can't argue with destiny! Yes so vote Lib Dem.

That was a political broadcast by the Liberal Democrat Party, in the interest of balance (it's the BBC here) we will bring you more political party broadcasts over the coming week whether you agree with their views or not. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:39, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, well, if it'll really halp your party that much, then I suppose... Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 20:42, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
This has no political backing whatsoever. Mocking UKIP, the Conservatives and BNP (and whoever else you want) still to come. If you do not find it amusing and I have mistaken your sense of humour (through noticing your interest in Radio 4 and previous avid discussions on politics) then I will withdraw to pester amuse another. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:52, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
What do you mean, "no political backing"? Are you implying that you've faked these broadcasts? I recently turned 18 and got my letter from our local MP, who's invited me to parliament. I think I might go during the holidays, should be fun lifeblood-sappingly, mind-drainingly, shitingly shit. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 20:59, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Of course I have not faked these broadcasts they come directly from the local party backed newspapers. The Conservative extract from the "Daily Swivel-Eyed Loon" (hope you've listened to the news lately to get that joke) will be posted tomorrow. These extracts are simply meant to encourage you to choose your least-hated party so that you can vote for them (he says woth an unconvincing smile). Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:04, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

I always vote for the one woth the best unconvincing smile. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 21:07, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Monster Raving Loony all the way but for some reason you hate serious politicians so you won't like Lord Sutch and his party. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:25, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Is "to hat" a proper verb? There was a candidate for the OMRLP in a town near me, I think. Whopping Lord Foghole was his name. Do you get the Private Eye? It usually got some very good political cartoons in. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 22:34, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Anyone who opposes Obama's gun bill wants school children to get massacred because he is just a hatter. Spıke ¬ 02:27 1-Jun-13
Well then you'll be pleased to know I'm a staunch supporter of banning guns in the USA. Our police don't have guns over here because once you shoot someone their dead and the fun is over but if you bludgen a man to death with batons and then realise he was innocent it's much more fun for the police. Guns are dangerous weapons in the hands of Rednecks, ban them all. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 05:34, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

VFH/Cotswold Olimpick Games

Thanks for voting for this article. For the full effect see the wikipedia article that we based it on and compare. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 14:30, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Have done so. The wikipedia article would probably survive VFD on this site! In future, if you are going to parody their feature, use their feature queue (click on the "archive" link on the feature's front page bit) to pick one that's coming up in a week or so, like that you may have time to have it on the front page on the same day. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 20:10, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
Good idea. I had the article ready to go up on the morning after the day the wikipedia article was up. The only trouble is that only Romartus can change the features and he did not log on again until yesterday. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 05:47, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

"Whoops" template

[Regarding the undone edit]...I think those random "whoops" makes a lot of fun sometimes. For example, the one at Talk:McDonald's changed my name to Sir Laugh-a-lot. We all have different opinions, but instead of being removed, it could direct to another page? (Saddex (talk) 14:53, June 4, 2013 (UTC))

The "Whoops" can be funny, and this one might work better at Encyclopedia Dramatica (Website) instead of the feature, but in this particular article I think it didn't really work that well. Sorry. If you really want it, speak to someone with a bit of authority and get their opinion. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 15:02, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Hey, I have a bit of authority, though none of it extends to dictating humor styles. But my opinion is that the start of an Uncyclopedia article has one function: To mimic a Wikipedia or encyclopedia article and start so enticingly as to suck the reader into reading the rest of the article. Simsie, Mnbvcxz, Puppy, and I have discussed this in detail as it concerns a half dozen initial quotations from Oscar Wilde, Chuck Norris, Your Mom, Some Guy, or Typical Russian Guy; also quotations that bicker with one another. The exact same thing applies to the use of {{Whoops}} to note a sound-alike or to deliver a drive-by insult ("Idiot"--Whoops! Did you mean George W. Bush?). Most uses of {{Whoops}} are not clever and are not humor; they are imitation. Spıke ¬ 15:25 4-Jun-13
PS--I'll give you my opinion on the edit in question if you will copy the URL of the change history and paste it onto this page as a link. (In general when discussing specific edits, you should include such a citation so that anyone reading the page can see what you're talking about.) Spıke ¬ 15:27 4-Jun-13
Ok, I understand what you mean, but they can be pretty funny sometimes.
Also, today I changed a little in the September 11 attacks article, since the beginning part sounded serious, with actual numbers and such, fact alert! I have also plans to fix an infobox to the America article, with a photoshopped flag and a McDonald's logo as coat of arms. (Saddex (talk) 15:35, June 4, 2013 (UTC))
In my opinion, "pretty funny" is not enough. Lots of stuff I write is pretty funny to me, because I know why I wrote it. Here, we are talking about a {{Whoops}} that will be the top line of an article. The reader doesn't know "why" anything, because he has just started to read. My point above is that it has to be more than "pretty funny"--If it takes the place of the start of the article, it has to be better than the start of the article at inducing the reader to read the rest of the article. See what I mean? Spıke ¬ 16:20 4-Jun-13
Now, I reverted you myself at September 11 attacks. Citing "2,974 victims" may have been a "fact alert!" but changing it to "two million victims" is simply a Nonsense Number. Likewise, some of the other randomness you inserted wasn't clever enough to make it funny but was unrealistic enough to make it stop resembling an encyclopedia article. Always remember, Untrue ≠ Funny. Spıke ¬ 16:35 4-Jun-13
PS--No, it didn't work at Encyclopedia Dramatica (Encyclopedia) either, and the Reverend was doing God's work to revert you. It didn't say anything clever about ED; it merely asserted (on Line 1 of the page) that EDiots might as well be reading Gay porn. This isn't comedy but merely insult. (Gay ≠ Funny either.) Spıke ¬ 18:31 4-Jun-13
SPIKE's analysis of this particular edit is, in my view, accurate. I do, however, think the template can be funny in a very small amount, and only if the joke is clever. There are too many crap ones about. The good examples of the joke work better if most of the site's uses are genuine; this would also serve the purpose of Wikipedia imitation better. I even think, if it were one of a very few jokey ones left on the site, the George Bush example mentioned above would work quite well. I have added a few before myself, but agree the less added at the moment, the better. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 18:57, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Reset the patrol flag

I am working the unpatrolled edits and have found half a dozen ill-advised edits that you undid. Thanks for policing the site, but remember to reset the unpatrolled flag on those edits so others don't repeat the review. Spıke ¬ 19:42 4-Jun-13

How do I go about doing that? Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 19:42, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, it looks like we start by me asking a Bureaucrat to give you Rollback permissions. At that point, you will see "rollback" next to "undo." Rollback automatically clears the flag, does not let you state a Change Summary, and is appropriate for Anon vandalism. Looking at a diff of any single edit, you will see "Mark this edit patrolled" which you should do before clicking Undo. There is also a JavaScript widget that gives you a "patrol" button for one or several edits when you view Special:RecentChanges. Spıke ¬ 19:51 4-Jun-13

Creating redirects

OK, cheers. Separately, can I have permission to create a re-direct for one of my articles? Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 19:54, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

I have given you the only permission I am permitted to give. Creating a redirect does not require any special permission at all. A redirect is simply a page whose entire contents are:

#REDIRECT [[page to which the user is to be sent]]

Spıke ¬ 19:59 4-Jun-13

That's all right, I knew that. I meant permission in the normal sense, not the technical one. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 20:02, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

For permission in the normal sense: If you are using a redirect to serve the reader by diverting him from a page that doesn't exist to a page that does exist that there is reason to believe will amuse him: By all means. If you are using a redirect to prank the reader, such as redirecting "George Bush" to "Dumbass": "Don't crack wise with the navigation tools." Spıke ¬ 20:06 4-Jun-13

I was intending to make one from Worcester sauce to Worcestershire sauce, as it's a very common alternate spelling and have seen it linked to. Ist das zulässig? Ja? JA? JA? Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 20:10, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds fine. In fact, we have nothing at Worcester and making that point to the sauce as well is sensible. Spıke ¬ 20:14 4-Jun-13

Both done, cheers. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 23:18, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

For all of your kind words and vote on the moon page. But of course you helped the page to become what it is by catching about 100 of my errors with your masterful proofing. Thanks, and much appreciated. Aleister 23:12 4-6-'13

Quite all right. Considering the length of the article, so few errors is admirable. My "work" remains but a drop in the ocean compared to thinking of and writing such a chef-d'oeuvre as that. Well done. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 23:18, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
(I just wrote this and got an edit conflict - Aleister couple of minutes later) p.s. Whooo! I just noticed you did more proofreading, and caught another two dozen errors. Thank you for all the fish!!! The only changeback would be "Mr. Professor N" which is a tip o' the hat to our admin and user here, MrN9000, who came up with the idea of the pendulum experiment when discussing on the Above Top Secret site how to prove to the doubters that man did go to the moon.
Fair enough. Much as it offends the eye to give said personage a quasi-tautological title, you are excused. Revert away. And now I must to bed. Bye-bye. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 23:24, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
So long and thanks, for all the fish! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:03, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks from Anton

Thank you! I am glad there are no more errors in this article now! Do you think that it is good enough for VFH or should I work on it a bit more? By the way, you made the quote a lot funnier! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 06:03, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

It may need a little more work yet, but I think it will make it eventually. I've noticed that some of the text in the infobox doesn't show up on the article, only in the editing screen. Do you know why this is? Also, I've more or less finished my exams now, so I should have a bit more time on here over the next few weeks. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 15:27, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know why and I will redo it. You said that it needs more work and I think so but I don't know what to work on. How is your ear drum? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 16:40, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Still got a bloody great big hole in. It probably will for life, although it's less painful now and more just annoying. When I walk at an angle to the wind it whistles really loudly. Your article reads like a real Frenchman's: obsessed with food! Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 19:41, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Summer's here! And so is the post

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotYSir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:05, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

Have you been...

...inducted into the order of Hyena blazing? Zimbuddha Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 02:06, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

I don't believe so. Said article doesn't mention an order. Clarify. NOW! Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 22:47, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
Firstly, I didn't write the article, I just love it. I'd have included instructions. You are more than welcome to appropriate a blazing hyena for your own personal devotions. Zimbuddha Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 21:34, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Hello, sir

Seeing my page, the vote page, and those comments completely made my day. Thanks so much. I think I'll stay and write some more. Have any ideas?Arctangent (talk) 21:43, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Please do write more. As for ideas, I'm not really the best person to ask, but if you can't think of anything try re-writing an existing article. There are plenty enough that need it. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 16:42, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
I just started brain in a vat, I'll write some more later.Arctangent (talk) 00:19, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Recent news from old newspapers

Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 19:55, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Libertarian Party on VFH

Thanks for your vote, in which you wrote: "Being utterly clueless on American politics, I rely on articles like this." Then you might doubly enjoy Impeachment and maybe U.S. Constitution. Cheers! Spıke ¬ 03:26 28-Jun-13

Very good, both of them. The one thing I can't help but feel about American politics is that it's all so very boring, isn't it? It's effectively a two-party state, with both parties filled with media-obsessed twats engaging in political point scoring. And in your parliament they can't even say things like "The honourable member, my good sir, is a wanker!", after which the entire house cheers. And, and this is the worst bit, you elect both houses! How! Upper houses are designed to be about 15% hereditary, 5% bishops and the rest failed politicians who've donated money to their party. Honestly. Sort yourselves out. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 18:08, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

My only quibble is about your supposed cluelessness on American politics. (We did not indeed elect U.S. Senators until one century ago.) Spıke ¬ 18:32 28-Jun-13

PS--Don't remove {{VFD}} from articles. Whoever "poopsmiths" UN:VFD does that, and adds {{Oldvfd}} to the surviving article's talk page. Cheers! Spıke ¬ 18:34 28-Jun-13

All the flippin' British government is is a three-party state (if we are talking about the general picture and not the Welsh, Irish and Scottish independence parties) in which all three parties say the same crap and give nothing. There'll all inept and corrupt. I'd rather the House of Lord's members could sit in big offices such as PM and then things would be so much more fun and we might actually invade France again. Bring back punching Prescott, Churchill, Attlee, the mad and the good politicians then we'll be back into the good realms of good old pompous, arrogant but somehow effective British politics. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:14, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
Hague for Prime Minister! OK, I shall leave the VFD tags. When both houses are elected, bad shit happens. I think. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 20:58, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
Hague for the funny accent, Cameron for nothing, Miliband for a disaster, Clegg for a cock-up, Boris for invading France. Despite the fact he's Tory Boris has done a hell of a lot for London and I'd want him to be PM anyday. He'd be the only PM who would leak all his corruption details and everything and still do something drastic to improve Britain.
My biased perspective of American politics is an outdated, non-democratic side of Religious fundamentalists who aspire to drag America back into the 1920s against a few intelligent voices who understand the meaning of helping the poor, preventing religion from influencing state and maintaining status as a first-world country. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:07, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
My view is that they're either the right wing nutjobs or (possibly slightly worse) the bloody "new-age", bleeding heart liberals. You know, the ones that press the government to "apologise" for some minor thing two hundred years ago, and who never understand the whole correlation/causation thing. Mind, both of these are present in most countries, but in my view they're more extreme in America. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 21:12, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
If you are referring to the sort of liberals who are the hippies (as opposed to centrists or economic free market, capitalists (both forms of liberalism)) then I agree there are some in America but please do't use the term to stereotype all liberals on one kind of liberal. The US has a different definition of liberal, I think. As far as I am aware liberal over there means anyone left-wing so a capitalist, free-market, slight-anarchist would not be a liberal there. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:25, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
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