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Contents 1 grumble! 2 Some religion for yaa 2.1 If God was dead you wouldn't be hearing the following... 3 Impeding lawSUIT 4 Seriously good contact for you in So Cal 5 So I was patrolling RC... 6 Phil Ochs 7 Bill Grum 8 Words! 9 Can I sell you my Topaz? 10 Huffing Ted Stevens 11 Pier Gerlofs Donia 12 UnSignpost 29-10-2009 13 Aren't you going to have "the talk" with me? 14 Vandal up in here 15 Pat Benetar (redirect) (delete) 16 Costa Rica 17 I'm bored 18 Unwelcomed 19 Barack Obama's birth 20 Request for userfication - In The Groove 21 Thanks

[edit] grumble!

grumble grumble RAHB grumble penis grumble lawsuit   Her Cajekiness • <5:19 Oct 27, 2009>

The last time someone mentioned a lawsuit against my penis...well, let's just say I'm court ordered not to discuss the incident. -RAHB 05:21, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I am SO going to sue your penis.   Her Cajekiness • <5:26 Oct 27, 2009>

Not if I sue yours first! /me rushes off to the courthouse -RAHB 05:40, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I will not lose my penis again, mon frére /jumps in Cajekmobile   Her Cajekiness • <5:49 Oct 27, 2009>

Curses! The coconut powered engine of the Cajekmobile is much to efficient for me to outrun it with my superhuman legs! TO THE PUBLIC BUS!! -RAHB 05:53, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Curses! I'm all out of FRESH coconuts. I'm going to have to resort to the Cejakmobile, an unregistered 1978 Yort that runs on lamp oil! /jumps in whatever it was I said   Her Cajekiness • <5:59 Oct 27, 2009>

Dammit! Why do buses have to stop at all these BUS STOPS! -RAHB 06:15, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

By Herrod's fishnet stockings, I forgot that the 1978 model didn't have a front windshield! TO THE USED CAR DEALERSHIP OR MAYBE A POLICE AUCTION!   Her Cajekiness • <6:22 Oct 27, 2009>

Sweet mother of Thor! I'm not wearing any pants! TO THE PANTS STORE! -RAHB 07:19, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I warned you to buy extra pairs before the prices went up, but did you listen... MrN  18:59, Oct 27

I listened to every word you said. I just, you know, didn't do anything about it. -RAHB 02:26, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Some religion for yaa

Cheers!--Funnybony 18:18, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

---JEFF BECK IS PROOF-POSITIVE OF GOD!!!

God said, "Let there be lead guitar", and nothing happened, so He fuckin' did it Himself.

[edit] If God was dead you wouldn't be hearing the following...

Jeff Beck - The MOST INNOVATIVE SONG IN ROCK HISTORY - The Yardbird's classic Shapes of Things

Note: Please disregard if disregarding.--Funnybony 07:05, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Impeding lawSUIT

I'm going to sew your penis. • MAHMOOSHA 2.0 • • • 18:29, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

O_O -RAHB 00:58, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Seriously good contact for you in So Cal

Dude! You must have heard of International Music Magazine UT or Ugly Things Magazine, which is the most influential bi-annual publication on 60s Psychedelic music, specially British artists, like Kieth Moon, Cream, The Misunderstood, The Move, The Creation, THEM, The Who, etc., with special awe to the real fathers of psych rock the Jeff Beck Era Yardbirds. Mike is the World's leading authority on The Pretty Things (after which the mag is pun-named). Anyway, it's published out of San Diego. Please contact the Editor, Mike Stax, and tell him that Rick Brown heard and suggests he review your stuff. Write him at uglythingsmag@hotmail.com His web site is http://www.ugly-things.com/ - Mike is in a position to help you. He even has his own already successful label UT Records with global distribution, same as his 20 years old magazine, which has risen to the top of the heap.

Tell him what I said about it sounding "under". Ha! I was thinking, maybe if someone did get tripped out on DMT or even less heavy, like shrooms, then your music might sound normal. Haa!! - He'll see it's far from that! Contact him, really! Ugly Things Magazine is also on Wikipedia. This might be the best contact you'll ever need.--Funnybony 22:16, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

After thought, I think your sound would benefit with your vocals in distant Tomorrow Never Knows drone voice, and put meaningful lyrics. The Misunderstood were about Mind Expansion and Anti war. So you can be what ever you like to say. For example, the UK Band MUSE, I checked on MySpace and they have 65 MILLION SONG PLAYS. And everyone of their songs is about Illuminati, anti-NWO, anti-loss of freedom to fear, anti US of Earth. They tell it like it is, they're on about secret politics behind the NWO - which they oppose with a passion! And 65 million Song Plays?? Someone is listening to them. Do it Dude!--Funnybony 22:49, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

This is all well and good Rich, but it's getting kind of tiring coming to my talk page every day and finding an essay's worth of comments about psychedelic music, and suggestions of how to alter my own sound. Particularly, it's getting annoying that all of these quotes about the past are all over my page. I'd listen to nostalgia radio if I wanted those. Music is great, but this talk page is more for the purposes of this wiki, and so I'd like to keep it readable enough for me to answer any administrative questions and the like. -RAHB 00:57, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] So I was patrolling RC...

...and is this the same image you just deleted from the same guy? I've got a hunch that it is. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (vote!)} 01:05, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I've got a hunch that you're right. Good on ya! -RAHB 01:21, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Phil Ochs

Hi. I've continued playing with the Phil Ochs article which you suggested be expanded. Please have a look now, and I'll continue to work on it (Movies would be the next starting point). Do you know Ochs' work? Long time fan, first time caller. Aleister in Chains 14:32, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Not familiar with him myself. It seems long enough now, although it could use some pictures. Maybe a couple more links for good measure. But the terms of the expand tag are satisfied, so good on ya, I'll be removing the tag now. -- Also, penis. 14:35, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not proficient as yet with pictures, but will work on the links. Ochs was, indeed, considered by many the main singing voice of his generation, most of whom have little hearing ability left. The reason he didn't get airplay was that he attended as many protests, movement activities, and wrote about the issues of his day, and was more-or-less blacklisted (more rather than less). Those who know him will catch the references on the page, and hopefully will add to them. Thanks again. Not to be too serious here, goats. Aleister in Chains 15:34, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Word, sounds like someone I could get behind. Think I'll check him out. Good luck on your article! -- Also, penis. 16:31, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Grum

May I have a copy of the article you huffed--Legolas11 20:35, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Here you go. -- Also, penis. 03:26, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Words!

It's just words man. He is awesome and recently discovered by myself. I guess you saw that video years ago... MrN  02:58, Oct 31

It IS just words! You only recently discovered Zappa? Well that explains everything then. The reason I didn't particularly want that video on is that, yeah, it's a fucking great interview, but when you start watching all of the many many interviews Zappa did over the years, they just get better and better. His philosophy extended over such a broad range of topics, and was so fucking insightful, that it's impossible to sum him up in simply that crossfire interview. So I choose not to.

If you will it, you're in for the ride of your life getting into Zappa. I must warn you however, that you will also become quite insane. But it's a delightful insanity. I don't even notice the poltergeists anymore. -- Also, penis. 03:01, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I already have a poltergeists. It opens and closes locked windows... I have watched probably 15 or so interviews and such with Zappa in the last few days. Apparently he also played some music, so I probably should look into that also. ;) MrN  03:07, Oct 31

Hahah, yes, I hear he did something along those lines. A paltry 70 or so records. -- Also, penis. 03:08, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind me butting in here, but I just read something that I didn't know about Frank Zappa (I'm assuming you mean Frank). This is from our imitator Wikipedia: 'Zappa had proposed to replace "phonographic record merchandising" of music by "direct digital-to-digital transfer" through phone or cable TV (with royalty payments and consumer billing automatically built into the accompanying software). In 1989, Zappa considered his idea a "miserable flop."' The idea might have been a flop then, but a few years later, with the Internet....     Father WHY??? (confessions)  03:12, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Exactly! Just one of many many factors that added to Frank's genius. Are you a fan? -- Also, penis. 03:17, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I didn't get to know much about him until after his death. I had thought of him mostly as a guy who sang about yellow snow and valley girls--the stuff I heard listening to Doctor Demento. Now, I'm fascinated with him.     Father WHY??? (confessions)  03:34, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, that's how it tends to go. I didn't find out about him until long after his death, and was lucky enough to get right into the meat of his discography without being distracted too much by his "hits". Don't necessarily mind Apostrophe and the like, but beyond what's most well known of his stuff there's some of the most fascinating music and musical-related ideas in modern history. Hence why I preach of his works extensively in all situations, appropriate or otherwise, much to the chagrin of those around me. -- Also, penis. 03:38, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Is there a Zappa religion? Something like Zappanity, or The Flying Frank Zappa, or the Sons and Daughters of Invention?     Father WHY??? (confessions)  03:44, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Sons and Daughters of Invention would probably be it if there was. My idea of the Frank Zappa religion is not having a religion. And dressing up like a poodle on December 4th. That's more of a ritual though, I suppose. -- Also, penis. 03:49, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

User:Miley Spears and User:Syndrome are both Discordians. They'd probably make that holiday if you asked them. And would wearing a poodle skirt count?     Father WHY??? (confessions)  04:12, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Only if it's made of....Muffin! -- Also, penis. 04:19, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Um, yes, of course! Obviously.     Father WHY??? (confessions)  04:25, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Well, you know. I could pull out a more obscure reference but, alas...well, I have nothing to actually put after the "alas." But the thought is there. -- Also, penis. 04:35, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

While you're thinking, enjoy some little girl poodle skirt cake!     Father WHY??? (confessions)  04:51, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Somewhere there's a very confused, very naked girl made out of cake. -- Also, penis. 04:53, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

With your current signature, that reads as "Somewhere there's a very confused, very naked girl made out of cake. -- Also, penis." That would be a confused girl.     Father WHY??? (confessions)  05:08, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Yes! Glad to see the sig is working the way it was designed for. Nothing makes me prouder than an awkward meaning placed in every sentence. That and watching young children trying to wear bowls of potato salad as hats. Admittedly, I have much less occasion to happen upon the later. -- Also, penis. 05:17, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Can I sell you my Topaz?

Congratulations on the featured, nice work and a nice article. A question, why or who or what should I ask about a keyed-in article that needs a major change? It's locked up, stored away like amber, and yet not up-to-date. Thanks. By the way, where can I hunt topaz, and what weapons should I bring along to hunt it? Aleister in Chains 16:46, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying you have a finished article, but you want someone to make a pass and clean it up? If that's the case, I could probably help you out. Alternately there's The Thinker, pending he's in mood to check his talk page. There's also the proofreading service, and you can also get constructive feedback at the Pee Review. Also also, you can ask around for someone to help you in the IRC channel. If that's not what you were talking about, then please disregard this entire message. Except for the statement that to hunt topaz, you need only your hands...and 15 years of intensive martial arts training. -- Also, penis. 03:52, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Specifically, I've edited the article, and will fine tune in, United States Emperors to select a new Emperor (Sinead O'Connor, weird, but it fits the logic of the page), and this update will affect the Ron Paul page, which is locked. So, how can it be unlocked in order to make the needed changes? Thanks. Oh, and thank your for putting an under construction template on my new article The Babe Over There On The Right, which could also be fun. Aleister in Chains 15:15, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, I see what you mean now. Well, three things about that then. Firstly, I could generally unlock the article, allow you to make your edit, and then relock it. Secondly, continuity between articles isn't actually something very much upheld, so if the edit is needed just for that purpose, it doesn't necessarily need to be made. Alternatively though, if you think it will make the page funnier, then absolutely make the edit. Most importantly of all is this. There are two types of protection, a regular user protection, and a sysop protection. Sysop protection means only sysops can edit a page. Regular protection means that anyone except IPs can edit a page. The Ron Paul article is regular protection, but brand new users (I believe the number is four days old or less) can't edit those. So if your edit can wait for another day or so (although looking at your contribs I think you've passed the requirement by now), then you'll be able to edit the article without anything having to be changed. As will be with any other regular-protected articles now that you've been around for a few days. Merely a precautionary measure. -- Also, penis. 15:30, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't know about the four day rule. It worked out fine. The Ron Paul and the United State Emperor pages seemed to go hand in glove, as much of the Paul article centered on the other while other "Emperor"s only mention it in passing. And having Richard Nixon as Emperor over and over again (supposedly his soul inhabited Ron Paul and that's why he was Emperor, I had Melinda Gordon send his soul into the light while abdicating to O'Connor, who will lead all into an era of peace. Thanks again. I may try one of the news articles tomorrow and learn how those work, but the Paul thing seemed to remedy itself. Aleister in Chains 00:58, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Right. That thing you just said. -- Also, penis. 07:12, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Huffing Ted Stevens

Apparently Ted Stevens was huffed because I was the only one who wrote about him.

Maybe that would be different if the article was left up more than a day. Ketchikanadian 18:21, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

The "only contributor" thing is less of the reason than the fact that there was nearly nothing whatsoever on the page. Unfortunately, you can't simply start a one sentence page and then just expect everybody else to start throwing in a bunch of comedy gold. Generally, if you're going to start an article, you should finish it, or at least develop it a significant amount before getting outside help, and asking for that help instead of just leaving the article there, hoping someone might come along and give it their pity. Putting the template {{construction}} on a page is also helpful for keeping an article safe from deletion while it is in development. -- Also, penis. 18:24, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Ok thanks. I'll try again when I have more. Ketchikanadian 06:49, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Pier Gerlofs Donia

The Pier Gerlofs Donia is pretty awful. I tried my best, but I think it still sucks ass... could you work on it, perhaps?

You could use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pier_Gerlofs_Donia for information. Thanks in advance,

signed

The Midgets (Seven&ThreeMidgets 19:01, November 2, 2009 (UTC))

I usually don't work on other people's articles unless I started out a collaboration with them. And I know absolutely nothing about the subject matter and something tells me that reading the article isn't going to give me the same frame of reference that being Dutch does. I also generally don't do articles about people. Because I suck at that. I'm sure someone else around here might help you though. Perhaps make a forum post. -- Also, penis. 19:04, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

It's even worse than that, he's a Frisian folk hero, and they are the weirdest sort of Dutch :) ~ 19:20, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Those silly Frisians! -- Also, penis. 19:22, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, they sure are silly... oh, those Frisians! Here, see the forum Forum:Pier Gerlofs Donia & Frisians, was this what you meant, RHAB? :D Seven&ThreeMidgets 20:05, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, that should work just fine. Good luck in finding English speakers who know anything about Dutch folklore, maybe it's just me who has never heard of any of this stuff. All sounds rather interesting however. -- Also, penis. 20:14, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

You might want to try Lars. He is a Dutchy. So, are you Frisian then? ~ 20:27, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I am partly Frisian. I do not speak the silly language and I do not live in Frisia, but I have. Thanks for the tip. :P Seven&ThreeMidgets 21:15, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

By the way, I did not know much about Pier Gerlofs "Grutte Pier" Donia either until some time ago. I read he had "superhuman strength" and then I began to read a book about him. Pretty interesting stuff... a gigantic warrior chopping of heads with a gigantic sword who possesses superhuman strength - how cool is that? I would say, almost as cool as ninja's and pirates. :D Seven&ThreeMidgets 21:18, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds more cool to me. -- Also, penis. 05:03, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it does! A giant freedom fighter with superhuman strength... who stole from the poor and gave to himself? Donia is Robin Hood on steroids! :D Seven&ThreeMidgets 15:17, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] UnSignpost 29-10-2009

9001(bot)  01:39, Nov 3

[edit] Aren't you going to have "the talk" with me?

I'm just curious why User:Tomisbetterthanu was blocked indefinitely when the user hadn't yet posted here. Perhaps it's some Super Secret Admin Thingy I'm not allowed to know about about. Or maybe it's an IP problem. Those rather concern me, as I once got blocked indefinitely from a wiki because some troublemaker used the same IP I did (IPs change over time, some services such as AOL have shared IPs, some services switch IP numbers around frequently, some security services give a shared IP, some users do edits on shared library and school computers, etc.) Also PuppyOnTheRadio‎'s home IP was blocked indefinitely, but fortunately Puppy knows enough computer code to get it fixed. If not, we might have lost him.     Father WHY??? (confessions)  17:12, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Actually he has posted, but those posts don't show up on his contribs list because they were all deleted. He created a vanity page to the tune of Sandy Hubers, which he kept recreating. And so I got rid of him. He a friend of yours? If there's something I should know, I'd gladly re-evaluate the ban. -- Also, penis. 17:42, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Also, do you mean that Puppy's IP was banned when I blocked that guy? Or were you referring to an altogether different occurrence? -- Also, penis. 17:43, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know Tom at all; I just found him when I was looking for noobs who hadn't been welcomed yet. And the Puppy ban was a separate thing that probably happened a couple months ago. I don't even know the details, but saw Puppy mention it somewhere. Happy editing!     Father WHY??? (confessions)  17:58, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Ah, very good then. Keep up the good work, good to know someone's ballsy enough out there to call out the admins when they see an issue =) -- Also, penis. 18:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I wouldn't say I'm ballsy for doing that. I've been editing wikis for too many years to be afraid of admins. It's not like you could shoot me or anything. Wait, could you?     Father WHY??? (confessions)  18:12, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

That's for me to know, and for several secret government agents to find out. -- Also, penis. 18:28, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

PS - I just called, to say, I lo-ove you. I just called to say how much I care. I just called, to say, I lo-ove you. And I mean it, from the bottom of my heart.

Seriously you guys. --THINKER 18:06, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah well you know what man. Fuck you! -- Also, penis. 18:28, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, Thinker, RAHB just propositioned you! Will you two be making a video and selling it on eBay?     Father WHY??? (confessions)  18:46, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

You know nothing of our illustrious relationship. Normally I'd offer to fill you in, but you're likely to go insane. I mean, just look at the two of us! -- Also, penis. 19:01, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal up in here

I'm really happy for you and I'd normally let you finish and just list it on UBP, but the little dude has been going at it for a while now. --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (vote!)} 18:41, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Excellent. Now if you'd be so kind, pour me a shot of that cognac. -- Also, penis. 19:01, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm nowhere near that cultured. I just drink it straight from the bottle. Want a swig? --Pleb SYNDROME _{CUN medicate (vote!)} 19:54, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely! Though I'd generally go for gin myself. -- Also, penis. 21:18, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Pat Benetar (redirect) (delete)

Sorry for not checking Wikipedia before nominating this for QVFD. Still, I think the redirect is pointless since its target is Heart, and I see no reason that Pat Benetar will ever be mentioned in the Heart article. (Is there some other place the redirect could point?) --Pentium5dot1_{(read this)}t~^_^~c 22:46, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Well I think the reasoning is supposed to be that Pat Benatar is often mis-attributed as being a member of Heart, the band. Or something. And that her last name is often misspelled as Benetar when it's really Benatar. That or somebody made both of those mistakes and made an idiotic redirect. As is it seems like a funny bit of reference though. -- Also, penis. 00:08, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I thought her name was Pat Benedryl.     Father WHY??? (confessions)  02:48, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Costa Rica

Thanks for reverting the edits to Costa Rica by the anonIP. Oddly, he left untouched the newest addition: the totally unfunny paragraph by "Anastaciabeaverhausen" (at the end of Security) advising tourists to steer clear at all costs. I told her I didn't doubt anything she wrote, but to please try again to make it funny. Spıke ¬ 00:17 5-Nov-09

PS--and my little pink template at the top, asking locals in Spanish for new topics, does not seem to be working. Spıke ¬ 01:43 5-Nov-09

Looks like it's working to me. What seems to be the problem with it? -- Also, penis. 16:09, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Only that the page attracts blankers, and doesn't attract potential new themes on the talk page as I had hoped. This morning I cleaned up Anastacia's contribution--I bet she registered a user name for the sole purpose of getting back at her Costa Rican robbers via Uncyclopedia. Spıke ¬ 16:36 5-Nov-09

Well I know nothing about Costa Rice, or the situation going on here, but lots of the country articles tend to attract vandalism. If it's a big problem I could semi-protect it for a little while. -- Also, penis. 16:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Not necessary, thanks; the situation isn't extreme. Spıke ¬ 16:56 5-Nov-09

Indeed. Let me know if it becomes such. -- Also, penis. 17:03, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] I'm bored

Ban me.. • MAHMOOSHA 2.0 • • • 07:28, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I'm still bored as hell.. And angry too, for having an article up for VFH, on which nobody is voting.. Ban me again.. • MAHMOOSHA 2.0 • • • 18:06, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Unwelcomed

I was going through, welcoming new users, when I noticed that User:Mullerisgay was welcomed, banned for two weeks, and the welcome message was huffed by yourself. I imagine you have a reason for this, but it seems the thing we would definitely want a problem user to see is the welcome message for those helpful links. I tried doing a welcome with a message about being productive, and got "This page has been locked to prevent editing. This title has been protected from creation by RAHB. The reason given is That's enough." Was this user only banned for two weeks, or did I read that wrong?     Father WHY??? (confessions)  05:02, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I just ran into another one with a huffed talk page, User:Daniel simpson. Is there some way something could be left on their talk pages so it's not a red link on the User creation log? I welcome a whole bunch of people at once, and when I see a red talk page I go to put a welcome message on. Yes, I know I could check each page and each user individually, but last month I welcomed 177 people because it hadn't been done. If I checked each one individually, I might have burned out after a couple dozen. I'd rather welcome 177 and end up welcoming 20 banned users, than welcome 24 and miss a single potentially productive user. Thanks for your consideration, and happy editing!     Father WHY??? (confessions)  05:42, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Eh, we have this policy about welcoming vandals or something. I protected the one page because the link was put on QVFD and kept getting recreated. Makes me long for the old days, when we didn't have a user creation log. People had to really contribute first and then we'd know whether to welcome them or get rid of them. Anyways, that was then, and this is potato salad. So...eh, exercise your best judgment or something I guess. I'll unprotect that other page before the ban ends. -- Also, penis. 18:07, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Likewise, users should be welcomed when they did something worthy of a welcome rather than just appeared on the welcome log, as we do have an unwritten policy of "don't welcome the vandals". ~ 18:35, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I remembers them days whem ZB used to ban em for welcoming vandals... Huff the user creation I say. MrN  18:49, Nov 7

I certainly understand that. But personally I think it's good if people get links to how to write for Uncyclopedia before they've written a lot for Uncyclopedia. I saw a user a while back who got insulted (I think it was a threat of being blocked, but I don't remember) who was apparently trying to do good edits (adding Chuck Norris references/Oscar Wilde quotes stuff that's all over the site). The user had never been welcomed so had nothing to go by other than what's all over the site. When I first looked around here before I joined, I thought an Oscar Wilde quote was expected. A welcomed user may or may not look at the links, but at least they've been given a chance. Also my welcome message currently says "Thank you for your current and future contributions, assuming, of course, you aren't a vandal or some such." I got advice that thanking vandals even in a generic template wasn't a great idea, so I reworded it that way to cover productive users, users who hadn't posted yet, and vandals. The Welcome backlog was horrible--as I said above, I welcomed 177 people last month and ChiefjusticeDS welcomed a whole bunch too. We (and others) were working to catch up on the backlog for welcomes and Pee Reviews, and I believe we succeeded.     Father WHY??? (confessions)  19:01, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, but... The thing is we want people checking contributions, not people holding down the Ctrl key and clicking 10 links on a page to send their welcome message. If that was all we wanted then it could be automated such that all new users automatically get sent the message, but then that would just be another link which popped up which they ignore along with all the others. If the welcome message is sent in response to a good/bad contribution then... Well that's your first actual interaction with the wiki for a new user. A real communication. You are saying "Hi! I actually read something you did, and it did not suck". We have so many other places where we do provide help and guidance. MrN  19:14, Nov 7

(Well MrN, I didn't read a word you said because you edit conflicted me, so on with my message as it was) The number 177 is irrelevant here. I think it's just fantastic that you were able to paste a template on 177 pages that were listed in a log, but that's neither here nor there. Generally I really don't care what people do when it comes to welcoming users. You can welcome whoever you want. Except you can't welcome IPs. But this whole thing started because someone posted a link on the QVFD, and when I see those I usually act upon them, since it is a policy here. And if you can welcome 177, and don't get to put a template on a 178th page, I don't see where the glaring issue is. There are more important matters to get caught up on, and it doesn't seem that any of these situations came out a negative, since all of the non-welcomed in this discussion were vandals. As for the whole Chuck Norris whatsit and everything, the welcome templates don't do any more to enforce quality standards than do any article. Users simply have to learn by example. I don't recall ever banning someone for incessant Chuck Norrising, unless they were being obnoxious or were already warned, and I think that's how it generally goes. But every administrator also has their own individual way about things, and there are over fifty of us, somewhere near twenty active. There are different ways of dealing with things, and as I said, it's generally good to simply exercise your best judgment in close calls. -- Also, penis. 19:16, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

And now, after I've cooled off from MrN's glaring edit conflict, I've bothered to read it, and I agree whole-heartedly with what he said as well. -- Also, penis. 19:17, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Understood, and now that the backlog's caught up, I am checking contributions of those who've contributed. But I'm still welcoming those who haven't contributed yet so they have an idea where to start. As I said in an earlier post, there's no way I would have welcomed that many people if I had to check everything first. There were well over 200 unwelcomed people because it wasn't being done and I saw that as a problem to be solved. I'm one of those people who's fixed computers with tape and toilets with paper clips. It's a lousy fix, but at least it's better than nothing. (And personally, I'd prefer an automatic welcome anyway as it would give people an idea where to start before they begin. Even if you do a welcome personally, it still looks generic because it's a generic template. Until I actually talked to a user, I had no way of knowing if it was a person who welcomed me or that person's bot.)     Father WHY??? (confessions)  19:31, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

That's the thing though. You seem to be putting more stock into how big a number you can tally than whether it's going to do any good. As I said, you can welcome whoever you want, it really doesn't bother me. What would bother me would be if people are going around trying to make some sort of contest of how many people they can welcome, without taking consideration of what kind of effect they're having. And personally, I've fixed everything with duct tape and paper clips, but it doesn't really make me want to paste a template on a bunch of pages. That's just me. I'm not saying the things you're doing aren't good, but what I am saying is don't expect a tremendous amount of praise for solving some sort of perceived "problem" that Uncyclopedia has. Because it really doesn't seem to be one. Also, people who don't have welcome messages on their pages, and aren't brain dead, can find out all of the information on the template the same way I and may others did: by clicking the majority of the links covering the mainpage and the toolbar which is on every page of the wiki. Also by observation. The welcome template is more a formality, as well as simply an attempt at making users feel welcome, than it is implemented for any actual practicality. As MrN said, it would be very very easy to do as the rest of wikia and simply put a welcome template on every new user's page by default. We simply don't want to do that though. -- Also, penis. 19:39, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Barack Obama's birth

This article was removed from the main article pursuant to Barack Obama#A separate page?. It summarizes the way that both sides made fools of themselves over the issue, but two of the Colonizers had said on the talk page that it detracted from the original theme of the main article. Why did you delete it? Spıke ¬ 23:46 7-Nov-09

Well, I deleted it because it was short, and it looked to me just like somebody who fancied themselves a political commentator felt like spewing such commentary on a page. If it was the makings of a larger article, then I'll restore it and put a construction tag on it for you. It needs to be expanded and it needs to have jokes in it. Or an overall satirical or comedic purpose. -- Also, penis. 23:49, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring it. I do fancy myself a commentator at times, but this one has a comedic purpose (and in fact, has a couple jokes in it). It was not the makings of a larger article, it was a piece of Barack Obama that a couple of people told me would be better stand-alone. (Who knows, maybe they meant, "In the huff log"?) I have no imminent expansions of it in mind. I think it encapsulates an absurdity, and "Simsilikesims" seemed to endorse it on the talk page, though perhaps not its presence in the main article. I think it's funny. Spıke ¬ 01:05 8-Nov-09

It looks alright as a section of something larger to me, but it's going to need more meat if it's going to survive as its own article. Do as you so choose, but after a week it'll be gotten rid of or moved to your userspace. You could easily start by adding a picture. It could also use a different title perhaps. But those are all up to you. Well, the picture part only sort of is. I mean, it only makes sense. -- Also, penis. 01:09, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

If I might butt in RAHB, the way it currently stands it does not constitute as an article by itself and to be honest I don't see the great value of removing that single paragraph from the main article. Also, I didn't see a lot of discussion going on that page. Pelargonium is a new user with not relation to IC. And Mickey was not entirely for the whole issue. So all in all, I don't see a lot of added value in this sub article. ~ 14:30, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

So...you're saying, "do exactly what you just did." Because you know...I did that. You're a silly little polygon, you are. -- Also, penis. 21:24, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, that was directed at Herr Spike, not at your honor O_O ~ 22:28, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Ah...well then...care for a gin and tonic? -- Also, penis. 22:30, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Got any Scotch? ~ 22:49, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Not really. I don't even have any gin and tonic. I was hoping you were buying. -- Also, penis. 22:51, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

God darn it. ~ 23:02, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I think my little article violates the Uncyclopedia norm for articles less severely than some of those that have come through VFD recently, including one that I termed "not writing but performace art." I have a copy of the article in my space, though I have no grand plans for it at present; but it ought to go through VFD rather than have someone conclude that it simply can't be an article. Spıke ¬ 02:43 9-Nov-09

VFD is for articles that have been around for a long time that weren't initially spotted when they were created. There are a number of one-week policies that apply to new articles. Articles that are too short on content get construction or ICU templates applied to them, and have a week to stay, unless further edited, then they have a week since last edit. It's not personal or a special case, it's a policy that applies to all new articles. The other reason VFD is a bad option is that if every new article we got went through VFD, it would be impossible to keep track of it all, and the backlog would be overwhelming after the space of even a week or two. That's why we have the short term policies. -- Also, penis. 02:47, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Request for userfication - In The Groove

Please userfy In The Groove and its corresponding talk page to User:Pentium5dot1/Storage facility/In The Groove (and its corresponding talk page). Unless there is some BLP problem that I don't know about... --Pentium5dot1_{(read this)}t~^_^~c 18:53, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Completed. -- Also, penis. 20:08, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for voting for me as Writer of the Month. For those wonderful praises sung of me, I invite you stateside where we'll grow some bud and live the life. Cheers! rev. zim_ulator (Talk - Edits Logs) I am the dirt under your rollers. 16:48, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

On your knees! Rev. Zim_ulator blesses you. Your blessings are increasing exponentially. In the name of Sophia and the Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic, kneel and recieve the melding of Zim's holy axe and your wetware.

Excellent, I'll be sure to make a stop on my way to Florida in a few months. -- Also, penis. 22:12, November 10, 2009 (UTC)