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  • Be funny or stupid. I reserve the right to judge which one you are being.
  • Don't be a dick. Or if you have to be a dick, be funny
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Page rape

But I want to be a dick, dammit Spıke Ѧ 23:17 22-Sep-13

This is NOT funny and serves no humour value to this website but I want to write something here so I shall. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:07, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Watchlist tool has failed

Hello! The watchlist tool that I just documented at the end of UN:HAX is not working. The Java Error Console reports that "mw.Api is not a constructor" in file User:Bizzeebeever/scripts/watchgadget.js. It fails on two PCs and after purging the cache. I would guess that something changed with a new edition of MediaWiki.

Separately, UN:HAX displays for me without numbered sections, and my attempts to use {{USERNAME}} to build a string for the reader to type produce <insert name here>, not the user's name. Whazzup with that? Spıke Ѧ 23:10 25-Sep-13

I'm still stranded on mobile view at the moment. After repeatedly nagging Wikia I've been told that as the issue was only impacting a small number of users on one Wiki, the fix is a low priority. Due to my nagging they increased the priority so that the ETA is now October 9th. So for the moment I'm having trouble viewing the site, and even more trouble editing. Special:Contact sounds like the best option, but as far as I can tell we're just not that important to worry about fixing.                               Puppy's talk page11:43 25 Sep 2013

Sigh! As before: I sent an email stressing your importance to us, but this merely resulted in the generation of a second ticket to fix the bug noted in the first ticket, which has gone wherever the first one did. Oh well, please take a look whenever you can. I can find the documentation of mw.Api in Chapter 50 of something, but have never read Chapter 1 and have a very poor sense of what packages are available for use and how they got there. Spıke Ѧ 23:49 25-Sep-13

I've never bothered to get into the more nitty gritty of MW before, but instead looked more at the user end stuff. Because we can't install or rollback MW changes I've always left it to Wikia to fix whatever they break.                               Puppy's talk page11:55 25 Sep 2013

Main page links to your sandbox

There is a link on the main page which should only link to the daily feature which seems to be linking to User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sandbox. I don't see any changes to the feature queue template that would cause this, nor to the main page. Moreover, the latest feature does not seem to be updating properly. What is going on? -- Simsilikesims(♀GUN) Talk here. 22:51, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

My sandbox got featured! Excellent! (In regards to any errors, I think I've worked it out. Give me a moment. )                               Puppy's talk page11:00 29 Sep 2013
Done. Simple fix. More complicated fix (so this doesn't reoccur) involves a little tweak to {{FA}}. More on that later.                               Puppy's talk page11:04 29 Sep 2013
Thanks much. Please keep me posted. -- Simsilikesims(♀GUN) Talk here. 23:07, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

UnSignpost - Reporting from the Belgian Congo

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:51, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

VFD rules

The rewrite of VFD rules taking place in your userspace looks like an improvement on all levels. However, ultimately, I would like to split off the rules for Admins (and Poopsmiths). There are several more procedures they need to follow (and usually do), and no need for the average reader to read them every time he calls up VFD. Spıke Ѧ 12:38 1-Oct-13

Yeah - I've removed the mention of poopsmithing from the rules, as it's not as significant a role as it used to be (do we have any now?). The page at User:PuppyOnTheRadio/temp3 is what I'm envisioning as UN:VFD, with User:PuppyOnTheRadio/temp replacing {{VFDRules}} and User:PuppyOnTheRadio/temp2 being a preload template. Any other changes you think are warranted feel free, and once you're happy it can be put into practice.                               Puppy's talk page01:01 01 Oct 2013
Oh - latest nominations would be at the base - only way to add in the preload without too much fanagling.                               Puppy's talk page01:05 01 Oct 2013

I suspected you'd have to do that, and I don't like it, but copypasting a template is an absurd chore. The proposed Admin stuff is at Uncyclopedia:Votes for deletion/For Admins, designed only to codify our current practices. I, and Simsie occasionally, poopsmith VFD. It is low-profile and thankless. Spıke Ѧ 13:27 1-Oct-13

PS--Is it worth it to use an edit box and CREATEBOX as I did in User:SPIKE/SIG? That way, you could provide (above the edit box) a page of instructions. Don't have three tildes for the nominator; let him sign his own post, as some users still use four tildes. Spıke Ѧ 13:29 1-Oct-13

We can always add an &editintro to the URL, which will have a similar effect. CREATEBOX is really only useful if you're creating an entire page, as (from memory) the page name is the only thing that can be drawn into the edit. Having said that, we could always use the exact same process for VFD as we do for VFH, where a unique page is created each time. It's a different direction which has both advantages and disadvantages. Poopsmithing could become less cumbersome (as you only have to change a small amount of code - not cut and paste from the page every time something is archived).                               Puppy's talk page01:51 01 Oct 2013

Short of changing the file organization, and independent of using CREATEBOX, I'd like to see not just a clickable link but an input field for the name of the page to nominate for deletion, in the same way as when nominating on VFH or creating an UnNews on the UnNews Front Page. Spıke Ѧ 14:06 1-Oct-13

That's the problem I'm finding - the only easy way to create an input field that I know of is via a createbox or searchbox, and neither of them can be used to send the parameters to a page - other than determining a page name to create or search for, which means changing file structure.                               Puppy's talk page09:13 01 Oct 2013
Of course, I could be wrong.                               Puppy's talk page10:19 01 Oct 2013

Forum:A reskin for the US government shutdown

"Houston - we have a problem." Please can I bring you to the attention of this wonderful forum we need your help. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:11, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Forum:A new VFS is in order

On my initial comment in this Forum, I gave short shrift to your remark that you were "hijacking" it, and initially concluded you were setting out to manage an actual VFS vote rather than use the Forum as a springboard to some useful policy discussion. I've now given specific replies on a few of your points. Spıke Ѧ 14:15 7-Oct-13

I noticed. Valuable feedback, even though we disagree on some points. Which is why I was going to start that forum to begin with - to get this discussion going now before we go down the path of holding a VFS.                               Puppy's talk page02:36 07 Oct 2013


Please touch base with the new editor on his talk page.... Spıke Ѧ 13:34 11-Oct-13

"A foul ball going through to the catcher"

And what do we know about this? Anyone? (Special name? Two exceptions to the rules?) Spıke Ѧ 10:06 15-Oct-13

In cricket if a batsman faces a ball that might be able to be hit or might not, the batsman often opts for letting it go past as it's not worth the risk. I'm assuming baseball has a similar thing, but I don't understand how a foul ball and a strike differ from a batters perspective - I don't know how that game even scores. Seriously - a test match covers give days and has four innings - how can anyone survive a game with seven innings is beyond me.
As to the other point - it was probably an oversight that I didn't allow a compromise option for this - there was enough support to suggest that a compromise might be desirable. I'd rather have a vote where people feel that their voice is heard than a railroaded vote where they feel excluded, even if the outcome is not what I desire.                               Puppy's talk page10:17 15 Oct 2013

As I say there, I am interested in clear consensus decisions and not in providing another venue for self-expression. You have given the process a fine structure, but mid-course corrections are arbitrary--and unnecessary: Follow-on editing (affecting style and not policy) is always possible, as there are no last decisions on a wiki.

Regarding a foul ball that the catcher holds onto: (1) It is called a foul tip; (2) In view of the catcher's prowess, it can be the third strike against the batter, as other fouls cannot be; (3) There is no reason to call Time Out, as we do for every other ball hit outside the lines. So runners can try to steal a base on this "foul ball," and a defense that does not know this distinction is playing the game poorly. Spıke Ѧ 10:27 15-Oct-13

On cricket, limited-overs is the only variety I can stand; there have to be constraints that eventually compel the players to play the game. Baseball indeed has nothing similar except that (1) the batter may request Time Out, and if the umpire mistakenly grants it when the pitcher is pitching, he will declare, "no pitch"; also (2) foul balls (other than foul tips!) with two strikes already on the batter do not change the state of the game. Fouling off any close pitch is a skill comparable to declining a ball that doesn't threaten the wickets, and it will eventually tire out a pitcher and require a replacement. Spıke Ѧ 10:36 15-Oct-13

Test matches are no longer as popular as they used to be, but they are a very different type of game. 20/20 are a fast paced match that promotes heavy hitting techniques, and very little room for strategic maneuvers, and a one day match (2x50 overs) has a good mix of strategic play, including field placement and utilisation of skills. A test is an endurance match though, as the result can change in the course of a single bowl, and keeping that level of concentration and physical activity over an extended period pushes a sportsperson to the limit. That, and the Ashes series is traditional way to enjoy a summer in Australia. The traditional perspective of an Australian cricket fan is “I support two teams - Australia, and whoever is playing against England.”                               Puppy's talk page10:53 15 Oct 2013
Just to clear this up I shall add a quote that a wise woman once told me, "Baseball is like America's version of cricket - just as boring." I have nothing against either sport but get no enjoyment from watching either of them. Try watching Rugby, American Football, Aussie Football or Football. Those are fun to watch. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:30, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
I'm not a fan of football codes at all. I like a game where there is a certain level of strategy behind what is being done, and Australian rules football and football don't have the same level of strategic thought behind them that cricket does. Never watched American football - unless lingerie league counts - so haven't got an appreciation of the finer points of the game, assuming there are any. Rugby league I can enjoy, but only if it's a close run match.                               Puppy's talk page07:53 15 Oct 2013
Rugby (which I assume is what you mean by the word "Cricket") never had a player as good as George Herman "Babe" Ruth. There is no explaining him and how he did it, although people have tried and all they come up with is hot dogs and beer. Aleister 15-10
Never underestimate the value of Shane Warne Gretzky. Never has one man given so little to so few.                               Puppy's talk page08:15 15 Oct 2013

Would you mind

Moving all your UnSignpost templates into mainspace, please? You said you wanted to do so and I think it's time for it now. Anton (talk) 10:41, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Did I miss any?                               Puppy's talk page11:11 21 Oct 2013
This? Anton (talk) 11:37, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
Done. Note that Template:USP head is the old version, and Template:USP header is the current one.                               Puppy's talk page12:03 21 Oct 2013
I beg you to accept my vivid acknowledgements. Anton (talk) 12:06, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
It's just boring to say thanks. Anton (talk) 13:20, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

When a single post can become a source for drama, a newspaper becomes a deadly weapon

Have fun reading it!

Anton (talk) 17:26, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Poopsmithing VFD

Thank you for that. However, we now have a poopsmith hard at work, and the procedures suggest that the poopsmith leave the closed vote on display for a little while to advertise the result. Do you have more nominations and need the space? Spıke Ѧ 12:57 22-Oct-13

Sorta. I was creating a list at User:PuppyOnTheRadio/stuff to delete, but I'm just wanting to make space for others ATM. A momentum seems to have started that I don't want to impinge. If there's still space in the AM my time I'll probably add one or two.                               Puppy's talk page01:03 22 Oct 2013

VFD template on pages

Hey Puppy. I sort of forget how VFD worked. Didn't we used to put a template on the page that's under scrutiny? Like we did with VFH? I remember kind of having one but I can't be sure. --ShabiDOO 15:24, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

I think Puppy's asleep. We certainly do require the use of {{VFD}}; I suggest at the top of the article. Authors are allowed this alert, plus 24 hours, before anyone deletes their articles. Suggested remedy is to apply the tag yourself and reset the clock at UN:VFD. Spıke Ѧ 15:57 22-Oct-13
There was no tag put on my Playstation 5 article or on Horse throwing. Is that because the vote was over so fast that no tag was needed? --ShabiDOO 16:20, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
Absolutely not. The tag should be put on before the vote starts. This is a technical violation that occurs from time to time. You are entitled to complain to the nominators. Failing to apply {{VFD}} is an order of magnitude less than rape-adopting a newbie (my last ban of Newman66, who nominated Playstation5), and I just chided him for another minor error, so I'm not going to take it to him. Spıke Ѧ 16:28 22-Oct-13
And I neglected to add it to three things I jut nominated... Ooops. I think I just remembered something that I meant to do with the new system.                               Puppy's talk page07:51 22 Oct 2013

Deputy Chief Editor of UnSignpost?

You are doing this job in all but name at the moment. Please accept the post. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:34, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

I already have the role of interfering tosspot which takes up most of my free time.
Actually, I'm loathe to take on any particular role as I tend to have a fairly sporadic RL situation. There are times I can dedicate a fair amount of my day to editing here, and then there will be a month or so where I'll be lucky to even look at the site. Besides, the next ChiefJustice/ScottPat/Frosty/Spike/Simsie/Romartus/ThatOtherUserIDidn'tMention will join here shortly, and when he/she does he/she will be a welcome addition to the role, and it will help him/her become an instant significant part of the community.                               Puppy's talk page08:46 23 Oct 2013
Fair enough then. Please respond to my messages on the Forum:UnSignpost Changes! if you can. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:53, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

My dearest puppy

Would you be able to volunteer your fierce template making skills to help me devise a prototype for peer review lite? --ShabiDOO 18:52, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ooh! Say yes! Spıke Ѧ 18:55 23-Oct-13
As long as you don't mind waiting a few days, happy to give it a crack.                               Puppy's talk page09:29 23 Oct 2013
I would wait till the end of time for you! --ShabiDOO 22:19, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
I equally dislike sycophantic behaviour while I enjoy being appreciated. To alleviate this ambivalence, I'll just say: Screw you, you wonderful man!                               Puppy's talk page10:33 23 Oct 2013

To-delete list

Copied from email; no reason not to say this on the website and invite comment. —Spike

I saw some of the stuff on your to-delete list. I am eager to delete the attempts to make specific individuals into mainspace memes, but not so keen as to purge every in-joke, even if it sets us apart from the Fork. AAAAAAAA!, for instance, is a page I was against (unencyclopedic!) but then my mind was broadened and I saw how cleverly it's done. The preceding unsigned comment was added by SPIKE (talk • contribs)

The problem with much of what is on that list is not that it's an in-joke, but it's derivative of an in-joke. Binary is one of the pages that brought me to Uncyc the first time around in 96ish. And I like A wizard did it! because of it's wider context - anyone searching for that will understand the joke. Trying to combine in-jokes is just more obscure and annoying, and more likely to make us lose readers rather than attract.
And any joke Mario related just drives me up the wall. The preceding unsigned comment was added by PuppyOnTheRadio (talk • contribs)

I'd still vote to keep AAAAAAAA!. The number of articles that use the "incessant gibberish" joke needs to be small but doesn't need to be 1. Spıke Ѧ 14:12 24-Oct-13

User talk:Anton199

Does the honourable gentlemen withdraw his remarks about Anton from the floor? (there is a broom in the corner) On a serious not though please apolagise that was too harsh and not true. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:57, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's all sorted out now. Anton (talk) 08:30, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
Yep. It's amazing what a bottle of rye whiskey, fishnet stockings and double choc ice cream can accomplish. (Although I have no idea how to clean those stains.)                               Puppy's talk page09:00 26 Oct 2013
OK. Puppy you might want to hide the key for Room 101 before Anton works out what just happened. We can all go back to being friends now. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:18, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
Never stopped.                               Puppy's talk page09:20 26 Oct 2013
No I meant we can all go back to watching "Friends" now! Are you deaf? Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:47, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
Good show. That black guy is really funny.                               Puppy's talk page09:58 26 Oct 2013
Never seen it properly. Only seen bits of some episodes. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:01, October 26, 2013 (UTC)


Absolutely love it! My favourite changes are:

  • Old stuff at the top to make you look at it first. I wish VFH were like this so that articles could either be featured or dismissed without languishing.
  • Don't need to bother copying the VFD nom everytime as it does it for me automatically.

Thanks. Did you get Uncyclopedian of the Month last time? If not you need it, if you did, you need it again. Definitely need Uncyclopedian of the Year. Thanks so much. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 12:41, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

I've been WotM once, NotM once, PotM twice, UGotM twice, Foolitzer once, and UotM once. And never a bride.                               Puppy's talk page12:46 26 Oct 2013
Fabulous! Indeed, flipping the order may get people to pay attention (mostly one-time-only) to the ballots that are languishing. The worst part of copying the VFD nom is that many times I copied the name of the article into the Windows clipboard, only to realize I would have to use the clipboard to copy the ballot! I am not seeing section numbers on the ballots (mostly useful for me to count how many are open, but also gives a sense that the list is not interminable) and the stuff does not expand to use all the available width. Now, is there a way to make the red and green go gray on ballots that have been closed? To avoid any potential slight, such as from Simsie, whom I appreciate when she casts the 5th vote and simultaneously deletes the page, please add the bit that other Admins can also close votes. Going offline for a while now. Spıke Ѧ 13:11 26-Oct-13
Yep. Was working on {{VFDc1}}, but looking at scrapping that to changing the way {{VFDt}} works instead. Gives me a couple of other tools that are a little more user friendly (such as incorporating the original date stamp of the nomination into {{Oldvfd}}). As for the Admin named - simply change {{VFDr}}.                               Puppy's talk page02:21 26 Oct 2013
Actually, it won't work completely the way I want. It'll have to be a two step process.                               Puppy's talk page02:32 26 Oct 2013
I also appreciate your initiative to change the naming of archives! But for simplicity/clarity, please put this into effect at 1-Nov, and without actually moving any ballots between files. Some "Oct '13" archives are already in #276, so let's have them all be. Spıke Ѧ 14:51 26-Oct-13
That's the plan. The Oct-13 archive is just because I'm still kinking out the irons.                               Puppy's talk page03:23 26 Oct 2013
Just saw the new VFD format. Just beautiful. Anton (talk) 18:02, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
I've just used it for the first time to delete an article. The Delete button was not useful. It would save me from having to futz with a pulldown menu of Deletion Reasons, but the problem is that I have to read the article before deleting it anyway, to see if there are orphaned illustrations. As the button is noise to everyone else, it might as well go away. And would you like an even more trivial quibble? The dash before "Voting closed" looks like the minus sign to the left that was the thing that closed the voting! so I recommend the bullet character. Spıke Ѧ 20:40 27-Oct-13

Awards on Uncyclopedia

Is there a particular policy about who is allowed to give out awards, such as NotM, WotM, UotY, etc.? I think you did this but I am not sure. Anton (talk) 17:54, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

It used to be admin only, but the giving of awards has been neglected. I was the one who created the current version of NotM, which is why I did that. I can't see anyone objecting to your doing it, as long as it's done by the rules of the award, and archived properly.                               Puppy's talk page10:30 26 Oct 2013
Ok, sure. Anton (talk) 15:03, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

VFD Comments Section

Could you make this a different colour to the Keep section as it is hard to distinguish between the two and leads people to add keep votes in the comments section by accident as Shabidoo has just done. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:22, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

It is a different colour. One is #CFC and the other is #CCF. (Or light green and light blue, for those that can't read hex colour values.) Besides, nobody see the colours when they are editing.                               Puppy's talk page07:25 27 Oct 2013
Good point however it would look nicer if the colours were a bit more contrasting in my opinion because I don't see the difference unless I tilt my laptop screen so that it is almost at 180 degress to my keyboard! Perhaps yellow for comments box? Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:28, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
PS - I can't see the 20 nom limit rule on VFD. Have you missed it out by accident? Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:30, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
It's the second rule, and it pops up when someone adds a new article using the input box at the top of the page.                               Puppy's talk page07:37 27 Oct 2013
Oh ok. And changing the colour of the comments box? It is very hard to see the difference on my screen and it wouldn't hurt to change it surely. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:43, October 27, 2013 (UTC)


#CFC (For the contrast)
Which colour value works best for you?                               Puppy's talk page08:57 27 Oct 2013
Colour: #FFB. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:28, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
A lot better now, thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:37, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
I think all the boxes should be polkadotted, barbershopped-striped, and strobing. Can you work that up in the next hour? Thanks! Aleister 27-10
The strobing might be a little difficult. But I appreciate your faith in my abilities.                               Puppy's talk page11:50 27 Oct 2013
Anyone who could make 'Tropical Cyclone' can do strobing with one hand tied behind his sack. Aleister 27-10

You won't please ScottPat until you install the Union Jack as the background for the pane! In fact, I asked for green and red to highlight where the votes are, also to highlight the fact that they are now reversed. It is not a goal to have color everywhere there might be color, and it isn't clear that Comments needs a background color at all, although the way you resolved this is fine.

However, please do whatever you did to {{VFDn}}, regarding width, to {{VFDg}} as well! I am a CSS expert when it can be done through mere imitation, and this is now fixed. Spıke Ѧ 14:24,16:59 27-Oct-13

Just wondering: have you thought about the system that allows you to tag articles with VFD and place them there at the same time? Will this still work? Anton (talk) 15:02, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
Yes. Slightly outside of my coding abilities, but possible. There was a tagging system that could do this but it has become somewhat antiquated, and needs to be updated, but I haven't yet had a chance to look at it. Definitely on my hit list.                               Puppy's talk page06:36 27 Oct 2013

First tries from new Uncyclopedians

I agree that Kitten Mining (your ICU) is too short and Amilton de Cristo has numerous problems too. I have mentioned some of these to the authors on their talk pages. You are welcome to add to the reviews and to tag the second with ICU too. Spıke Ѧ 13:32 27-Oct-13

Shouldn't Amilton de Cristo be already deleted, being vanity and all? --Mimo&Maxus (Talk) 13:57, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
You are the second Uncyclopedian who interpreted this as vanity. I gave the author the benefit of the doubt and decided the user name he chose was what he wanted to write about rather than the other way around. But I'll take another look. Spıke Ѧ 14:03 27-Oct-13
PS--A second look finds no clear evidence he is writing about himself; but there are huge notability problems and I've slapped {{ICU}} on it. Spıke Ѧ 14:06 27-Oct-13
Then, as you can see for yourself with a Google search, whoever that guy is, he is not notable enough to desreve an article on himself here. --Mimo&Maxus (Talk) 14:10, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
In fact, if even a Wikipedia search fails, you are right. However, again, this is a new guy's first try and I am waiting for a response from him. Spıke Ѧ 14:29 27-Oct-13
PS--We got the response, in the form of a new round of edits that serves no purpose except vanity. His contributions are gone, so is he for a week, and so is Ad48hp who was also using mainspace as a sandbox. Spıke Ѧ 18:16 27-Oct-13

Another award!

BePrepared Uncyclopedian of the Month August-September 2013

You got your five votes very quickly!

Anton (talk) 15:40, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

PeeReview Lite

Would you like any help with it? I have several ideas and you are doing VFS and VFD quite alone. Anton (talk) 15:43, October 27, 2013 (UTC)

More than happy for help. If you have ideas on what it should be and how it should work, I'd suggest floating them at Forum:Peer review lite first though. I can happily code what people want (mostly), but I'm not sure how this is supposed to look/act.                               Puppy's talk page06:41 27 Oct 2013
It's kind of archived now. I can just talk to Shabidoo and Spike. Anton (talk) 11:57, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
Bumped that forum - while we still have questions to ask it should remain open. I asked a few questions there as well as to what I'm looking for from people.                               Puppy's talk page12:09 28 Oct 2013

UnSignpost delivery

This was delivered from UnSignpost:Signup help, using the text in User:PuppyOnTheRadio/test2 as the preload information. Try delivering something to User:PuppyOnTheRadio from there! Anton (talk) 10:02, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

That's cool. Except for there are only three tildes at the end of the post. Anton (talk) 10:02, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
I only ever sign with three. If you update the the in User:PuppyOnTheRadio/test2 that will impact what's added onto the page. I'll rearrange it over the next few days and add instructions on how to modify it.                               Puppy's talk page10:43 29 Oct 2013
Ok, sure. And would it be a good idea to make {{:<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>UnSignpost:Current}} preloaded on users' talk pages? This will actually turn into the new UnSignpost issue and we will just have to update the UnSignpost:Current before the delivery. Anton (talk) 12:18, October 29, 2013 (UTC)

Time... nominate YOUR MOTHER SUCKS COCKS IN HELL MOTHERFUCKER! for VFH. That it is not featured gives this site a bad name, which then spreads bad names to Wikipedia, Reddit, and points west. Aleister today of all days


So I looked at what you did with UnSignpost:Signup_help and decided to apply the same concept but to my idea. The result is at UnSignpost:Interviews and you can try it with my talk page, if you are interested. Anton (talk) 12:08, October 29, 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for creating that; that is how most of us agreed to dispose of this entry on VFD. Separately, could you move the H . V . D stuff off the section head? It clutters the Table of Contents. Spıke Ѧ 15:02 29-Oct-13

Constantly changing and not evolving newspaper - the UnSignpost

Anton (talk) 17:24, October 31, 2013 (UTC)


Is Anon's edit to this article, yesterday, about anything? Spıke Ѧ 20:09 31-Oct-13

Yeah. Joh Bjelke-Petersonwas knighted, giving him the honorific of "Sir", hence he became "Sir Joh"/"Sergio". He was also homophobic, racist, and over-authoritarian, had been in power for far too long in a state that became increasingly rednecked, and had an extraordinarily corrupt police force. WP:Joh Bjelke-Petersen#Character and attitudes says a fair bit about him.                               Puppy's talk page08:19 31 Oct 2013

Okay, thanks. Though perhaps not the funniest thing that could be written about this, the change is now Patrolled. Spıke Ѧ 20:29 31-Oct-13

It was more a clarification of a joke that was already there. Joh could have an article of his own, but my own political leaning would show if I were to write it - along with a more personal dislike. Have family in the Queensland police force, and they all got tarred with the same brush of corruption, so it's somewhat personal for me as well.                               Puppy's talk page08:42 31 Oct 2013

Hitler dancing

The "bad chop" is now Orphaned by Edit. Is it bad enough to huff on that basis? The contributor, Alfa.V.Wolf, has come up with a series of photos that he wants put into Uncyclopedia articles (at one point opening a Forum when he found he couldn't). That doesn't mean they are stolen humor, but in such cases they usually are. Spıke Ѧ 21:17 1-Nov-13

PS--Saw your post to him and let's keep it around in case he finds a use for it in the World War II project. Spıke Ѧ 21:22 1-Nov-13
Edit conflict, but you already got what I was going to suggest.                               Puppy's talk page09:27 01 Nov 2013

Thank you

Countries of the world

Mimo&maxus has nominated {{World Countries}} for deletion, then withdrawn it when I pointed out that Bizzeebeever and I once discussed structuring this plus the continent templates to auto-expand out on the user's click. However, BB has left the building and I am not capable of the job. Are you able to devise a template with hide/show subtemplates? Spıke Ѧ 14:53 11-Nov-13

Your signature

As useful as it is to tell where you are in your outlandish sleep cycle, your signature seems to use an Australian timezone, and forces us to get out a calculator to determine whether a post of yours preceded or followed an arbitrary post of someone who follows the rules. I notice that you replied to Aleister on VFD twelve hours before his post. Would you please make your signature procedure a little less clever and give the time in UTC? Spıke Ѧ 21:11 11-Nov-13

It is? Odd. It was set for UTC when I put it together. As for the previous section, I'll have a look. Where was the conversation between you and BB (so I have a better idea of what the two of you had in mind)?                               Puppy's talk page09:18 11 Nov 2013

I had nothing in mind; it was all in his mind. See User:SPIKE/2012#Unified template for nations of the world. Spıke Ѧ 21:21 11-Nov-13

Ah. Time zone is UTC, (as it is displaying as 23 hours behind where I am), but forgot the important am/pm thing. Should be now fixed. (At least I will know if it works after this edit.)                               Puppy's talk page09:25 pm 11 Nov 2013

OK. Spıke Ѧ 21:27 11-Nov-13

Yep - you're all now only 11 hours behind me. Slackers.                               Puppy's talk page09:29 pm 11 Nov 2013

From the UnSignpost archives

The new UnSignpost journalists have found out a 2011 UnSignpost article about you and we now have some questions:

  • Do you really have issues?
  • Do you really smoke fungus? Or only sandwiches?
  • How did the UnSignpost influence your entire life?

Anton (talk) 18:36, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

    • I don't know if I would say I have issues. The fact that I now have an improved version of that image as the lock screen on my phone means nothing.
    • I said on my craigslist entry that I was a smokin', fun guy. Chief took it out of context. The bit about mucus was accurate though.
    • Thomas Jefferson once wrote Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost. And no publication can be cheaper than the UnSignpost.
      • Although in having said that, we are limited, so I would suggest that we create more copies of the latest UnSignpost.
      • And maybe start replacing all the pages we have here with the UnSignpost.
      • And create a bot that will keep creating copies of it.
      • And go to other wikis and start creating copies of it there
      • And create a self-replicating virus that creates copies of it elsewhere once the Wikia servers crash under the load!
      • And print off as many copies as we can and distribute them around our local vicinity!
      • And then travel to other towns, cities and hamlets and distribute them there!!
      • And we should all learn how to be tattoo-ists, and tattoo copies of it on ourselves!!!
      • And we shouls all start kidnapping bank tellers and traffic policepersons and tattoo copies of it on them!!!!
      • And we should burn the bill of rights and replace it with a copy of the USP!!!!!
      • And then the USP can take over the world!!!!! And my Sigmund Freud with a sausage can be everywhere!!!!! Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
    • Sorry, what was the question about issues again?                               Puppy's talk page08:21 pm 12 Nov 2013
Let's put it like this: do you have the UnSignpost issues? Anton (talk) 20:24, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
Oh. Yeah, in the corner. Under the Anarchists handbook, the Satanic verses and the 23 copies of Catcher in the rye.                               Puppy's talk page08:30 pm 12 Nov 2013
Great. You will be an example for all the readers of our next issue. In case it ever comes out. Anton (talk) 20:39, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
Anton or Puppy, you couldn't write an UnSignpost article on the topic of Puppy's plans for UnSignpost to take over the World could you? It's just I haven't been around much in the past week and a bit and no one ever seems to update UnSignpost or write articles so more needed. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 22:40, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, Scott, you are right. However we can place Pup's response in the interview section (you know about the interview project, right? It started on Simsie's talk page and you contributed to it). Anton (talk) 12:31, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
No I haven't heard of this sorry. Could you direct me to the interview project page please. Thanks Anton. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:38, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
It is currently not mentioned anywhere, except for at the UnSignpost:Interviews, in all today's newspapers and in the mailboxes of the EU presidents (in the spam section), which is just help for making an interview (I acquired new formatting skills and wanted to practice). But there was an interview with Sims in the last issue, then the interview was continued and then you yourself have actually contributed to it. Maybe it was confusing, though. Anton (talk) 17:48, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Pee Review Lite

I am almost done but I have an issue (neither mental, nor the UnSignpost one): I decided to leave the score aspect possible but not necessary, and if the reviewer chooses to give the score, it will not get displayed but will influence the colour of the table. But the problem is that if the reviewer does not give the score, the colour of the table is grey, which is not very appealing. I wanted to do an 'if and then' system - if the score is not there, the colour will be green, but if there is a score, then the colour will depend on the score. Do you know how to say "if the score is there" part or do you think there is a better way to achieve this? If you want to see the results so far, they are at User:Anton199/Sandbox1. Anton (talk) 12:28, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

if score = 0 then colour = not grey?                               Puppy's talk page12:32 pm 13 Nov 2013
if any score, then the colour depends on it (the 'then' part is already there, but I have problems with the if one). Anton (talk) 12:37, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Just so it makes sense: I think I know how do "if no score, then the colour green" (for example, <div style="{{#if:{{{Pscore|}}}||background: #00FF00}};">, right?), but then I don't know how to say: "if there is score". {{#if:{{{Pscore|{{{Pscore}}}}}}? Anton (talk) 17:41, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Probably better to go for a switch/case here, now that I think about it.
{{#switch:{{#expr:{{{Pscore|}}} round 0}}
| = blue <!--or whatever colour you want for empty value-->
|3 = red
|6 = amber
|10 = green
I think that's it. Let me test.                               Puppy's talk page07:38 pm 13 Nov 2013
blank =
  1. 66CCCC
0 =
  1. 999999
0.7 =
  1. 999999
1 =
  1. FF3300
1.5 =
  1. FF3300
5 =
  1. FFFF00
7.4 =
  1. 99FF00
9 =
  1. 33FF00
  1. 00FF00
11 =
  1. 66CCCC
foo =
  1. 66CCCC
Testing…                               Puppy's talk page07:46 pm 13 Nov 2013
Cool. User:PuppyOnTheRadio/switch should have your answers.                               Puppy's talk page07:53 pm 13 Nov 2013
Oh - floor ({{{1}}}) rounds down to nearest integer. {{{1}}} round 0 will round up or down to the nearest integer. Hope that makes sense.                               Puppy's talk page07:57 pm 13 Nov 2013
Thank you! Can I use your page as a template? By the way, if I finish everything, should I open a forum or can I just show the changes to you or to an admin and transport them to the Pee Review page? Anton (talk) 11:31, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Given we already have a forum, I suggest just bumping that. The users who are looking at putting this all into practise will have that on their watchlist. Given it's directly related that's suitable.

As for the template, move that page to a template (maybe Template:PR color) and work with it from there. I'd suggest using hex colour values as they are the same across browsers, whereas named colour values tend to differ. (Although they may have standardised - I'm slightly out of date on that topic.)                               Puppy's talk page11:59 am 15 Nov 2013

Sure, I should repare one thing and then I am done. Anton (talk) 15:47, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Category:ICU versus Uncyclopedia/Maintenance/ICU

We have Category:ICU and we have Uncyclopedia:Maintenance/ICU. One requires purging for correct display and one does not. They both display DPL-driven lists of crappy articles, but one is by date of tagging and one is by date of last edit, and they are not necessarily sorted by the key column. The table heading seems to correctly describe the table, but the text above the table does not seem to. Would you please see if these two pages make sense — and if there is any reason for us to have two of them?

If you have other techie investigations on your list, this is not necessarily a higher priority; and indeed it is a lower priority in my book than finding out why it is still true that "Mw.Api is not a constructor" (re: my bug report at the end of UN:HAX). Spıke Ѧ 17:50 15-Nov-13

There was a reason why both of these were put together in different ways, but cannot for the life of me remember why it was done. I remember having a disagreement with a former admin about this, as it was during a time where {{fix}} was being used as a backdoor method of deleting articles, which is why the last edit date became important, as those that were 30+ days were ripe for deletion at that stage, but there was no listing that showed what was likely to be deleted in any form of priority. I don't know that they have any separate value any more though. (We should still have some list of “these articles need work” though that is linked to UN:WYCD.)                               Puppy's talk page09:25 pm 15 Nov 2013
I hadn't seen this page before! And I have been here for - like five years! --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:21, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

For the record, what I would like is a single page with a single table that has ICU articles with a column for date tagged and a column for last edit, perhaps using the technology that Wikipedia has for rosters of athletic teams that lets you pick the sort column by clicking on the column head. Spıke Ѧ 22:59 15-Nov-13

Tony Abbott

New user MacRaCa has gifted us with an article on your new Prime Minister and, after slapping {{ICU}} on it, I went in and cleaned it up. Are you able to add anything to this other than the joke about his misogyny? Spıke Ѧ 12:02 23-Nov-13

I was holding back to see if he added any more. Abbott's misogyny is like Obama's birth certificate for humour purposes, by the way. I'll have a look when I'm less exhausted.                               Puppy's talk page12:09 pm 23 Nov 2013
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