User talk:PuppyOnTheRadio/Yet another stupid archive

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I'm barely here now.                               Puppy's talk page11:15 20 Apr 2013

Indeed...but why? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:46, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
Don't go. I only know of you through a pee review that you once did for me but that was enough to let me see that you are a great Uncyclopedian. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 16:50, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
I'm working 50+ hours a week at the moment. I'm just exhausted.                               Puppy's talk page09:25 23 Apr 2013
But do you remember when Uncyclopedia was comic relief from work?! Spıke Ѧ 21:32 23-Apr-13
I started editing here when I was unemployed, and for the last few years I've mainly been a phone jockey - thereby having a low work load and constant access to Internet at work. I'm back in management, so have to focus creative energy to get paid. I'll probably be back here regularly at some stage, but just not right now.                               Puppy's talk page01:35 24 Apr 2013

Express not available today (just normal delivery)

Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose UnS CUN VFH and Bar (talk) 03:48 6, May 2016

Template:Oh Dear

Thanks for editing this so that it gives a signature. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:41, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

I just undid it. I prefer a three tilde sig - the date stamp is incorporated into my signature. There's no easy way to have it change between three and four tildes for user preference though.                               Puppy's talk page07:43 06 May 2013 <--three tilde

That's fine then. Thanks for your help though. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:45, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

You could create a template of {{OD}} which would consist of the text of:
{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>Oh Dear}}

which, if my wiki-fu is correct, give you the result you are after. It's been a while since I played with subst'ing and noincludes/includeonlys in templates though, so I'm not promising it'll be perfect.                               Puppy's talk page07:51 06 May 2013
Okay - it has been done and tested.                               Puppy's talk page07:54 06 May 2013

Ahhhh! Edit-conflict. I hate them. Anyway my point I was going to make is invalid now as you have already changed it. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:56, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

I've protected this page, not as any commentary on your experimentation, but because any actual vandalism by others would instantly appear on thousands of pages of newbies least likely to deal with it calmly. Spıke Ѧ 09:27 6-May-13
This should always be {{subst:OD}} anyway. Given the text just comes from {{Oh Dear}} that'd probably be better off with better protection.                               Puppy's talk page09:51 06 May 2013


I am glad you are taking a look at this. I have not been to the Wikipedia article on it--I visited Conservapedia itself, once, and found it more didactic than conservative--but the article strikes me as a total (featured) rant, about everything from being, yuck!, conservative, to being not conservative enough, to not banning people for the right durations, with vanity comparable to Poptropica and Red Hot Pawn when we encountered them. Spıke Ѧ 00:21 7-May-13

I have a dislike of anything Schafly related. Conservapedia is the product of the youngest(?) Schafly, Andrew. Because of my personal dislike of the site I'm not too involved in that article, as I would become ranty myself. The core of this article was a parody of The “ranty” aspect in that was taken as a parody of the source, as was the “too left leaning” concept. It could be stripped back to the original concept, as the concept has become muddled over time, but as I mentioned before, I may not be impartial enough to do this well.                               Puppy's talk page12:32 07 May 2013

I have no such personal dislike, but I always hate parodying ranters by exaggerating the rantiness; it usually doesn't work, sometimes doesn't come across as parody at all, and the reader wonders what the writer's agenda really is: create comedy or destroy his adversary with the adversary's own words. I could eventually do it right, but this is a FA (gawd!) and there are bigger fish to fry. Spıke Ѧ 00:43 7-May-13

Revert to featured version? We could probably improve it over time, but as an FA it means at that time it was considered one of our finest. (And I like the FA version myself.)                               Puppy's talk page12:54 07 May 2013

Compared to the FA, the current version has some small corrections, and some helpful large deletions, including my own of today. I would delete the external links as well: one to Conservapedia and another advocating a "better" conservative website. Spıke Ѧ 01:13 7-May-13

Oddly the Conservapedia page on Uncyclopedia links to the fork. Given how precious Conservapedia are about anyone not regular editing pages there I'm surprised that this edit got through.                               Puppy's talk page11:00 07 May 2013

Fifty shades of grey

I just ran across your page Fifty shades of grey. Very creative (I was gone for most of 2012 and missed the feature). There is a vote on the newest content warning page, for a new content warning. Please have a look. Hope all has been well, and profitable, and then some extra things too. Aleister 1:45 9-5-'13

This UnSignpost may be unsuitable for some viewers!

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 14:14, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

The UnSignpost has arrived...Quick hide!

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:18, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

The UnSignpost hath cometh

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:24, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Australia has old coins up North

Yes it does. Hello, long time no bark. Hope all is well. ATS had a thread on 1,000 year old coins being found in North Aussie, and they probably bought a lot of spiders. To business. It seems as if the new content warning idea of Brother ScottPat and Brother Aleister may be set for center stage, although we have no real page to put up. If you have a few minutes can you play around with it? Thanks!!!! The exact language voted on is:

  • 1)To contain the words "Content warning. Some of this encyclopedia's pages may not be safe for work or school, and some are unsuitable for children."
  • 2)Which would be followed by the two enter or not buttons.
  • 3)The light background be a picture of an academic institution or temple, this picture here, just lighter and enlarged (or engourged - i.e. Shaibadoo)

So if this is any use to you, please do some magic(k) and see what works best as to color of the lettering, if the button can somehow be placed onto the lawn of the pic, etc. You of course can play with the colors, size, fonts, etc., and do a bang-up job. No hurry (seriously, no hurry) and see if you can work a link to this in somewhere. Thanks from all of us here at uncyclopedia, your friendly neighborhood encyclopedia. Aleister oo:41 4-6-'13

1,000 years? A little surprising, but it's surmised that the Dutch had been to Australia long before the English, and there are maps dating back even further that show part of the northern coastline, so reasonable to assume there were visitors previously. Australian Aboriginies would have no use for coin though, so if coins had been left with them they probably would have been discarded.
Not much that needs to be done on the CW. Can't get that link in there though, mores the pity. I'll have a go at something tonight my time.                               Puppy's talk page01:04 04 Jun 2013
Here is the link to the 1,000 year old coin thread. I haven't read deeply into it, but have marked it for future reading material. If you look at it again, as always, it's best to log in there to escape some of the ads. Thanks for considering putting something together. Maybe the pic doesn't have to be very light, or can just stay as it is. Is there an easy way to redo the pic with a "hole" cut onto the lawn where the button can be placed? Anyway, to make the site look academic and respectable would be quite the sleight of hand, and maybe a good mock-up will convince the no-comment-sayers to see the potential of finally doing away with some of the controversy about the warning label. I still think the 1,000 year old coins were used to buy spiders. That just seems the most obvious thing to buy with coins back then, except for women and rocks. Aleister 2:20 4-6-'13
Er… I may have gotten busy.                               Puppy's talk page04:23 08 Jun 2013

Forum:Rollback with custom Change Summary

Wasn't it you who originally asked for this? Spıke Ѧ 11:20 8-Jun-13

PS--Help! Furry's code is willing to modify the RecentChanges report rather than take you to a different page. But I can't see it! On my PC I have:

 .mw-rollback-link A
     background-image: url(Graphics/Rollback.png);
     background-repeat: no-repeat;

Furry changes the text of the A and removes the href. What it seems I need to do is put something after A to not apply to all .mw-rollback-link A. But I don't know how to do it. Spıke Ѧ 19:10 8-Jun-13

Hey man. Been busy as crazy. Don't quite follow what you're looking for - what's the outcome you're after?                               Puppy's talk page10:00 10 Jun 2013

How do I modify the selector in the above CSS to restrict it to <A> for which the text is rollback, or for which there is no href? Spıke Ѧ 11:08 10-Jun-13

Ah. The first option is - as far a I'm aware - impossible, or close enough to make it too difficult to do reasonably. The HTML DOM doesn't recognise the text in a hyperlink as part of that element. When BB and I were looking at the patrol changes issue we had a similar issue, which we ended up getting around by doing a text match to the actual link itself. The second may be doable, but I'm not sure off the top of my head - I'm scattershot at js at the best of times. TBH, I don't know that I have the time to investigate at the moment - literally working every chance I have.                               Puppy's talk page11:15 10 Jun 2013

Summer's here! And so is the post

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:50, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

Recent news from old newspapers

Anton (talk) 19:52, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hey oop!

I had such a good idea for an article that would have required your skills

then I didn't get round to telling you about it
then I didn't get round to starting it
then I forgot what it was.
It's no wonder I never submit anything any more.
Wishing you a Happy belated Canada daySog1970 (talk) 19:00, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
I didn't write an article very similar to that recently myself.                               Puppy's talk page09:29 03 Jul 2013

If you don't know where to find the news

Happy reading! Anton (talk) 17:36, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Biopic contribution

If you haven't done it yet, how about writing your biopic contribution (a paragraph or two about yourself that might be fake, of course) to tell other users something interesting about you? If you decide to do this, the page where you can put it is here. Anton (talk) 08:25, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

PLS edition of UnSignpost with extra poo

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:12, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

like this

hey, look at what i did. like it? -- 02:28, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

                              Puppy's talk page12:45 01 Aug 2013

Sorry for the USP

I am sorry but the new format of the UnSignpost makes the content box and the edit buttons of the talk page disappear. Therefore, I am removing it for a while and will bring it back when these issues are fixed. But you can still read this issue at UnSignpost/20130810. Thank you for your patience! Anton (talk) 11:41, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Pup, I know you have a lot if work and not much time, but I just wanted to find out whether you will be able to fix the format, as you said that it is not going to be too hard. Because, as you see here, the last issue has been recalled for the indefinite amount of time and so I don't know whether it should be redelivered and the new issue should be made with the old format or if you are planning to help us soon? But I am, of course, not rushing you at all and not saying that you should do it... Thank you! Anton (talk) 10:06, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Several options on how it can be done. I've been short on time, so haven't had a chance to create mock-ups.
Maybe best thing is to fall back on olde style, and get feedback on what people prefer. Personally I like both, but olde style has a bit of history, whereas new style in more WP in style, so suits the parody aspect.                               Puppy's talk page11:21 19 Aug 2013
My vote is not to waste time getting the old hide/display buttons to work but to keep encouraging use of the alternative where what is delivered is an overview and a link to a (non-collapsing) UnSignpost rather than the entire text, which I have to pay to download every time I look at a subscriber's page, even in the lucky event that it renders Hidden. Spıke Ѧ 12:09 19-Aug-13
Which is what the WP Signpost does. That seems to be a neater format in my eyes, and having headlines and then from there link to full paper. Making the headlines in the main paper links to themselves, and having the text of each article as <noinclude>, and then the delivered page can be the same as the paper itself, and let wiki-format server side reduce the data load. It was one of the three options I was considering. It just needs to be mocked up and then from there throw out the options and see what's most readily accepted.                               Puppy's talk page12:22 19 Aug 2013

Oh, ok. I think this third option is the best. I think that I should bury my idea about the two subscription lists and just change the format, so that all the text is hidden. Anton (talk) 13:17, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

As someone with a minor connection to the paper and makes no decisions on the paper I just would like to say that I agree as well. I'll make a new issue tomorrow. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:22, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Then I will fix everything concerning the last recalled issue and then you can copy the format and make a new issue. Ok? Anton (talk) 13:24, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

This is a way more complicated than I thought

There is the Wikipedia Signpost which does not contain all the text and leads the reader to the new issue. However, this UnSignpost is not delivered. Something which is delivered is this template which is also made with the help of another template (WP:Template:Sidebar_with_collapsible_lists) the content of which is {{#invoke: Sidebar | collapsible }}.

So this leads us to another template. See? It is extremely complicated to achieve the same format as WP. And, although the idea is good, maybe it is currently better to copy the fork's formatting entirely and copy new templates from the fork, so our UnSignpost will look exactly as theirs and a bit as Wikipedia's? WP has a lot more templates than we do and copying every single one that they use for the Signpost is no use, as our site is a lot smaller. Anton (talk) 16:23, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Please, vote for the option you prefer at this forum! Anton (talk) 17:13, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
Haven't looked at the fork's version, but the WP version is not that difficult to mimic - we just have to create the effect in a less cumbersome manner. But a dual page thing is just more cumbersome to put together each week, but will work for one week to get the concept going.
The ability to use the same page as both the delivery and the result is not hard - it's just a liberal use of <includeonly> and <noinclude>. I'm trying to get to it - stupid real life.                               Puppy's talk page11:12 19 Aug 2013
Here's my screw about concept - User:PuppyOnTheRadio/testicle and it's transposed to User talk:PuppyOnTheRadio/testicle. It shows the basic logic behind the idea.                               Puppy's talk page11:37 19 Aug 2013

Oh, ok, thanks. I will take a look. Anton (talk) 11:58, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

And do you think this will solve the Internet megabytes problem? If the content is hidden, you won't have to download it, right? Anton (talk) 20:55, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
It's not that the content is hidden, but that it's not included. <noinclude> is an instruction on a template to not add whatever is in the tags to whatever page it's added to. <includeonly> tells the template to only add it to pages the template is added onto. So what you see on that talkpage is just the headers - which link to the template - and no content, because it simply doesn't load up. What you see on the template is the content, but not those links, because they don't load. Or in short - yes, it solves the data load problem.                               Puppy's talk page09:12 20 Aug 2013

Oh, wow, that's very cool! But how do you do the same thing with the UnSignpost? Just insert all the <noinclude> inside the UnSignpost news template? Anton (talk) 10:16, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

The current template works on hide/show. This means the content is there, but not displayed until you click the [show] button. Apparently there is another way to set up the show/hide with a customisable link, but the admin who installed it never bothered to explain it.
The last thing is the sighidden trick. This again loads the content but hides it until you hover over the customisable link. Not the ideal for this at all. It does some very ugly things to page set-up, and hover doesn't work well on touch screens (ie smart phones) without some complex wiki-fu. Plus what it does on different browsers is very different.
Trust me - coding Game:Alone in the dark taught me too much about all this.                               Puppy's talk page11:29 21 Aug 2013

Oh, so the best one is the first one? Should I try to use it? Anton (talk) 13:54, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Pup, sorry, I am leaving and so I won't be able to do this myself! Please, would you either apply this to the UnSignpost/20130810, if you have time, or tell Scott what to do? Anton (talk) 18:52, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Game:Alone in the dark

I clicked on the link you gave me and played the game! It is actually really funny, although you do get frustrated after you understand that there is now way out of the darkness. But that's the name of the game, so it should not really be unexpected. Anton (talk) 13:54, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't it look good?

Anton (talk) 13:20, August 27, 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for the new format, it's great! Could you just help to fix some problems with text fonts and sizes that have appeared, thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:27, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

UnSignpost - Delivered every [other] week!

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:41, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

You know...

ever since I sort of returned I've been wondering about the fork. Mostly, why? In as much as it's possible to respect anyone who spends time on either site there seem to be people I respect on both. And I'm too lazy to copy my shit across both. --Sog1970 (talk) 21:38, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware some people didn't like wikia because of content warning and more strict rules. The content warning has since been removed and the strict rules on this site have worked a wonder with Uncyclopedia's comedy standard rising. On the other site they have had to implement more rules as anarchy led to a degrading state of comedy. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:42, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
Different emphasis on the different sites - here is more restrained, there is more smutty. I rarely visit the fork now - wasn't a fan of forking to begin with, and the use of crass to create comedy has never been something I've been a huge fan of.                               Puppy's talk page09:47 30 Aug 2013
Fair enough but I miss Sonje and Chief and a few others.--Sog1970 (talk) 21:50, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
If you are refering to Chief Justice DS then he is only a member of this site. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:55, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
Same here. But it's Uncyc - we keep the fires burning, and old timers pop back in now and then to say hi. That much hasn't changed.                               Puppy's talk page10:06 30 Aug 2013
I also just registered there, but I only visit there occasionally because I like it here more. And I'm also on Absurdopedia's independent fork since around the same time too, the Absurdopedia which had grew out of its Wikia version. Newman66 Visit my table here! Contributions My works 22:14, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
The difference between the forks has become highly super exagerated. One is at times edgier and one is periodicaly dullish. Most featured articles aren't that different. Both suffer from lack of new writing, peer editing and comradery. Both suffer greatly from a lack of new articles from both of you! WRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE SOGS WRITE PUPPY!!!! --ShabiDOO 03:44, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
I think that you are being quite harsh. The featured articles here are good quality and most are very original. As for comradery read this: Forum:Second World War Community Project. To think that both Uncyclopedia forks are the same begs the question that I and Al have brought up before, why not re-merge? Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:54, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, why not? Then people can be one big dysfunctional family again. I liked it like that--Sog1970 (talk) 09:11, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Harsh? Huh? I'm not complaining about the articles...they're fine on both forks. 80% of them are pretty much the same if you actualy read them (and write them). We highly exagerate the differences. The Second WW project lights up my eyes. It's a great step towards the buzzing level of comradery that once existed here. Fresh blood. Exciting. And yes...PUPPY...SOG...please write something. Oh please! WRITE!!! --ShabiDOO 18:41, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry sir, I presumed that you stated that the featured articles were of bad quality however I mis-interpreted you. Please join in with the project! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:43, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Re:HowTo:Fix a broken smartphone

It depends on the problem you have. Anton (talk) 12:11, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

It was an issue of it disconnecting partway through an iOS update. Got the store to do the update, and then restored from back-up without issues. Thanks for the offer of help though.                               Puppy's talk page10:56 10 Sep 2013
Cool Anton (talk) 16:01, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

I humbly request of you, great POTR... vote yes on Aluminium. --The Sieger of Dungeons Lord Denza Aetherwing Inventory 22:35, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

If people ask me to vote on an article on VFH, I'm no more or less likely to vote. If they tell me how to vote, I'm more likely to vote in a contrary manner.                               Puppy's talk page10:39 09 Sep 2013
Denza, you have absolutely misused the VFH. Even though it is your first article, this does not mean you should urge every active user to vote for Aluminium. It is not your but a voter's decision about whether he should vote for, against or not vote at all. Anton (talk) 08:46, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
Apart from Denza's dozens of other misuses of this site, what he is doing here is referred to simply as "whoring his article." In the decade when we weren't allowed to self-nominate, politicking was the primary activity at Uncyclopedia, including sending out calling cards upon success, and only Uncyclopedians with a tight clique or a public-relations agency ever got featured. Spıke Ѧ 10:30 10-Sep-13

Sydney, Australia

New user Shultz6 is going to try to resuscitate the article on Sydney, for which I just found him source code (in his userspace) on the Mirror. I've started him out with editing instructions; you might like to ask his permission to kibitz before it hits mainspace.

PS--I quickly e-mailed details of your message on the Mobile change to Sannse, and thus a second maintenance ticket was filed to fix whatever they broke. Spıke Ѧ 21:12 12-Sep-13

I'll have a chat to him.                               Puppy's talk page11:57 12 Sep 2013
My inability to effectively edit means I'm having trouble writing to him. You need to explain that size doesn't have a direct relationship to an article being deleted, except where there are insufficient genuine funny moments to support extra length. I think he may still be under the assumption we delete for reasons other than quality.                               Puppy's talk page01:10 13 Sep 2013

He certainly is. Rather than warm up to my suggestions about what in this article needed to change (such as the listcruft), he replied with yet another tirade about the disrespect shown to Sydney and how the actions of the Admins are ruining the wiki experience. I snatched the article back from the ingrate's userspace. If you would like it as a skeleton on which humor might some day be attached, I'll fetch it back for you. Spıke Ѧ 13:44 14-Sep-13

Thee's a reason why he was going on about comparing it to Melbourne. The two cities have had a long held rivalry with each other. Melbournians have a tendency to insult Sydneyites, and vice versa.
As a result the worst person to write an article about Sydney is a Melbournian. And I'm very much a Melbournian. (Which also makes me the second worst choice to write about Melbourne, imho.)                               Puppy's talk page06:22 14 Sep 2013

Very well. Although a Melbournian might thus be the best choice to write a funny article about Sydney. Spıke Ѧ 18:58 14-Sep-13

UnSygnposte Delieverie

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:09, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

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