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edit UnNews style

No excess capitals in the headline, please. Oh, and by the way, welcome back to, um, Preggopedia. Spıke Ѧ 22:11 10-Jan-13

What is the standard for capitalization now? A headline is a title, so wouldn't every word except articles, prepositions, linking verbs, etc, be capitalized? --Mn-z 13:54, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Newspapers have different styles for headlines; most have the style you described, but a few don't. UnNews for a long time has followed the capitalization style of Uncyclopedia pages in general. Look at the list at the right of the UnNews Front Page and you will see that the other current stories capitalize differently from yours. Spıke Ѧ 16:22 11-Jan-13

But, hypothetically, if I wrote all unNews articles, whatever I used would be the community standard by default, right? --Mn-z 19:44, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Hypothetically, yes. Hypothetically, if you were also the only reader, no one else would see a problem. At present, there are at least two others who might join you in the space, and we ought to try to make our stuff look alike. Spıke Ѧ 20:09 11-Jan-13

Btw, I remember there being a box-style template that was used to link to older UnNews articles. Do we still have it, and, if so, what is it called? --Mn-z 20:20, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

It's {{Old news}}. No one will complain even if you use it to cross-promote newer articles. The argument is the page name, minus the UnNews: prefix. Spıke Ѧ 20:38 11-Jan-13

edit Joe Biden

Ewwww, you got me with your user page. You have an odd fetish, man. Yes, that's a funny page, of course mainspace. Musth must make me laugh. The title should maybe have "nearly" taken out when you mainspace, so it resonates with the category you hate. Nice work! Aleister today, or maybe yesterday, not sure.

I read some of the musth article, I didn't know elephants in musth have as much as 60 times as much testosterone in their bodies during that crazy time. Remember when Spock went into musth on Star Trek? Weird. Aleister 19:34 today
I don't know if you're doing this, but please think about copying the pages and posting them on the other site too. You're on a roll with Joe Biden, and he will cut you if he meets you in a bar. Aleister yes!
The My Sojurn inside-joke became popular 2008/09, it comes from That_time_I_was_nearly_raped_by_a_yak_during_my_sojourn_in_Canada, which actually dates back to 2006. That is where the usage of the word "musk" comes from. --Mn-z 19:42, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, musk! You spelled in "must" in the page, and I thought you meant "musth". A strange time we live in. Al, later
That might have been some other editor, the original word in this one was "gaff". --Mn-z 19:48, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
As for moving my work, I intend to stay here. You can, however, encourage people on Free Uncyclopedia to read the new content over here, or even move it yourself, with proper attribution. --Mn-z 20:22, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
I moved it to the new digs, and it looks so good there I took credit for it, and everyone is shaking my hand and handing me room keys. Whoo hoo! Aleister 22:22 13-1-'13

edit Test Comment

Testing. --Mn-z 22:04, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

again. --Mn-z 22:05, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

edit UnNews:Obama's cabinet criticized for lack of diversity

Please pare the lede down! both in the story and in its rendition on the Front Page. There are so many words here that it starts out reading like serious news. The theme of reverse-reverse discrimination is valid but subtle. So do it in half the words and get the reader to the funny stuff faster. Cheers. Spıke Ѧ 14:10 13-Jan-13

Fixed, although, if the future, I would remind you that you can edit the articles of others. --Mn-z 19:30, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, I know that. But to edit an article about Obama might lead me in other directions with it that made you believe--rightly or wrongly--that I was taking it over. The days of me editing UnNewses are over. Spıke Ѧ 19:51 13-Jan-13

Regards UnNews articles (in fact any articles), If the author is still active, a word on their talk page is more diplomatic when making great changes. Some authors can go on a hissy meltdown if they think someone is 'meddling' with their comic gold. Otherwise, correcting obvious typos (unless that is the joke), grammatical mistakes (their and there) adding relevant images and a general tidy up without adding more text would be ok in my book. If a writer subsequently reverts everything you have done without an explanation then you know what to do next time. Your friendly neighbourhood admin will come along with a bucket... --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 10:27, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
I don't think Spike was proposing great changes to the article. From what I can tell, he wanted to tidy up the intro some. Did we develop some sort of concept of article "ownership" when I was gone? --Mn-z 13:33, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

I see Romartus as writing about courtesy ("diplomacy") more than hard-and-fast rules. Funnybony often served up undeveloped dog-bites-man ideas and was enthused when I pumped extraneous stuff into them to give them richness. This UnNews is based on the fact that Obama seems to be headed in a counterintuitive direction. Again, if I had done the editing myself, I would have pared it down severely and then would have felt the need to pad it with a large amount of other stuff regarding the space between Obama's rhetoric and his actions. I did not do so, not because it's against the rules, but because I don't want to get back in the business of doing so, and don't know how Mnbvcxz would have taken it. Spıke Ѧ 14:02 14-Jan-13

Regards 'article ownership', I think if the author is active on the site, then it is probably a good drama avoider to start re-editing someone else's story without talking to themRepetition. Because users are spread over a 24 hour time zone, perhaps the next full time UnNews editor could be allowed more latitude to re-jig an UnNews article which is more time dependent than the other articles submitted. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:00, January 14, 2013 (UTC) I'm writing 'preggo stories'!!! Duh...--LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:03, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
As a counter-example to that theory, UnNews:Uncyclopedia_Stays_on_Wikia was improved by other people adding content. --Mn-z 17:38, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Another quibble. There is nothing time-dependent about this UnNews at all. Obama is not going to withdraw his nominations (each of which are not just whiter and more male than the first-term aides but more extreme-left). And the Republican Party is not going to stop them either; it controls only the House, which does not participate in confirmation of appointees. The time-dependent criterion would not have been a mandate for me to rewrite Mnbvcxz's article myself. I think you had it right beneath the strike-through: Above all avoid drama. Spıke Ѧ 17:53 14-Jan-13

Mnz...can we have a break from the preggo stories? (serious voice). Ok I did one today but it was news relevant. I would like to attract old contributors, new contributors and if they keep seeing your Preggo stories...they may think this UnCyclopedia has gone off into some weird land. Thanks. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:29, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I'll tone it down. I'm running out of pregnancy-related news topics anyway. --Mn-z 18:31, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 19:12, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

edit UnNews:Pro-slavery activists seek Supreme Court nod

Renamed as shown per our discussion. Spıke Ѧ 16:14 18-Jan-13

edit Quotes in UnNews

I minced words at the start of this UnNews as well. In real or UnNews, the lede has got to hook the reader, and devoting Sentence #2 to the guy's next employment is a crucial waste.

Don't write, "X is quoted as saying" but "X said". Quoting is what you are doing. (Like: the Table of Contents doesn't say "Table of Contents"; it is a table that says "Contents".) You would not write: "Mnbvcxz quotes X as saying...."

Separately, quoting "one American" detracts from the article's resemblance of news. No news story quotes "one American" but gives the name. (If the name is also a joke when you think about it, that's worth bonus points.) That the UnNews reporter is also baffled is funny enough to compensate for the fact that no real news article would go there either.

This headline is flat too. UnNews:Canadian Space Agency president steps down does not give me any hint that it might be funny to read it. At the expense of length, you might do "Canadian Space Agency president's resignation highlights existence of agency" or at the expense of conventionality: "Who knew Canada had a Space Agency?" Spıke Ѧ 19:44 18-Jan-13

Good criticism, except I for two did like the title, it sounds real but at the same time funny. We don't have to push the joke in the face of the reader, the subtle "Canadian Space Agency...." made my day for a few moments. Aleister 19:55 18-1-'13

Point not well taken! The existing headline might have made you laugh--as any headline that starts with "Dick Cheney" might turn you purple with mirth--but not because it is a funny headline! Canada has a lot of real-sounding institutions, and merely naming one is not (yet) the joke. Spıke Ѧ 20:10 18-Jan-13

Well, that was me, and I'm a space junkie (not to be confused with cowboy junkie, or pregnancy junkie) so I got the intent of the joke. But yes, many will miss it. A side note, since Spike will be here. Today I was reading an article about a famous fellow in the U.S. Senate during Lincoln's time, Tommy Lee Jones plays him in the movie, and him and Lincoln would banter. Many of his lines were quoted, and they reminded me of Spike's way with words. I'll have to quote some of those to you, Spike, but not now. On my to do list now though. Aleister 20:40 18-1-'13
UnNews titles that are "too funny" run the risk of revealing the punchline before the article starts. If I wanted to that, then I'd start the article with a bright box of canned humor template. --Mn-z 02:39, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

I too am against headlines that are "too funny," such as those with exclamations or exclamation points. This was not what I was advocating; just some hint in the headline of the humor within. Give the reader a reason to click on it. My new UnNews:Obama dashes Republican hopes, takes oath of office‎‎ does somewhat disclose my take (that Republicans have no strategy except to hope that Obama goes away) but if it merely read dryly, "Obama takes oath of office", no one would care. Cheers. Spıke Ѧ 14:43 20-Jan-13

edit Thanks for the Nom

If you know of any other person willing to put forward their nomination of myself for admin, I will forever be in your debt should I attain the coveted sysop position. --Revolutionary, Anti-Bensonist, and TYATU Boss Uncyclopedian Meganew (Chat) (Care for a peek at my work?) (SUCK IT, FROGGY!) 14:35, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

edit UnNews:British lottery ticket prices rise to £2

I have my usual humor problem with this UnNews: Accusations that a given policy change is a deliberate attack on the poor or on minorities might be irrational, but they are not absurd, as such accusations are used all the time by partisans. A newspaper recently editorialized that my US Senator was opposing Obama's gun-control proposals because she was comfortable seeing schoolchildren massacred. (They had to issue an apology, but not before noting that the letter-writing campaign was orchestrated by the Senator's party.) I see what you are trying to do, but one can read the ending of this UnNews as not being funny at all. It is incredible that the people quoted believe this, but entirely believable that they would have said such things.

The earlier poverty joke works well, but it would be better if you added that the person who cannot afford two-pound tickets has all she can do to buy ten one-pound ones.

Separately, it will superficially resemble a real news article better if you would give names to your interviewees. Spıke Ѧ 16:03 21-Jan-13

In case you haven't noticed, I've been on an UnNews blitz over the past few weeks, so I am not spending as much time as I should on a few unNews articles. That one, in particular, was a little "forced" so feel free to edit it. I'm going to take a break from unNews until my next unscript article is finished. --Mn-z 17:20, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Fine; am not trying to criticize but just teach (or remind of) good practices. Regarding the edits, it looks as though Aleister is pitching in as well. Spıke Ѧ 17:40 21-Jan-13

I'd come across this conversation and gave it a go. Maybe if we three all work on it it will go down in history as going down in history. Al minutes later but not a moment too soon

edit UnNews:Obama confesses Islam

This one sets off two of my perennial hot buttons. WorldNet Daily is not a legitimate mainstream news source; it is an arch-conservative propaganda site. That doesn't matter; what matters is that you have not found a news story and added the value of a creative interpretation of the news; you have found conservatives being unreasonable and (with a small amount of extrapolation) made the case that these conservatives are unreasonable, which is no value added at all. There are very few people on which the humor will be lost because they think Obama might indeed be a Muslim, but what you are doing is not writing comedy but ridiculing the already-pretty-ridiculous. Most of the humor content occurred off Uncyclopedia.

Separately, a trend in recent UnNews, which is not necessarily bad satire but would absolutely be bad news-writing if we were a news source, is starting UnNewses with, for example, "In a move that has shocked many". This interprets for the reader before you even tell him what the news is. Again, if it helps the humor, ignore me, but it somewhat spoils the resemblance to a real news story. Cheers. Spıke Ѧ 19:28 23-Jan-13

I think the story is adequate parody. It is a "what if <Subject> did what he was actually accused of" type story. --Mn-z 15:29, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

I understand what you are shooting for; just wanted to emphasize that there is a major difference between "X is a closet Muslim" and "X wore a suit that made him look like a pimp." In the former case, my style would be to add more Goofy. Spıke Ѧ 15:44 24-Jan-13

edit Joe Biden

Attribution given on FreeUncy, and taken back. hahahahahahaha On the admin thing, I wish all you guys could be admins, except for a couple or one (I'd even try Aimsplode to see if he works out, as long as Chief, TKF and Zombiebaron watched every move he made.) I don't know why we stopped at two new admins, we could have used a few. Aleister 20:43 23-1-'13

edit Where are you?

To get a clear picture for the VFS vote: From what time zone do you edit? Spıke Ѧ 14:55 24-Jan-13

America, central time zone. Why do you need to know what time zone I am in? --Mn-z 15:16, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

To see if there is an advantage to voting for you in terms of round-the-clock patrolling over Simsie (Pacific) and Puppy (Australia--but doesn't want to patrol much). Conclusion: Not much, as I am in the Eastern. Spıke Ѧ 15:44 24-Jan-13

Mnbvcxz, you should move immediately to Spain or New Zealand, thus obtaining Spike's vote and seeing a new portion of the world. Yes? Aleister 18:11 24-1-'13

Spain doesn't work as we already have two Admins on GMT, plus Aleister's watchful eyes. If I don't get in, Mnbvcxz could be the only active Admin in the eastern half of the US. How do you feel about Iran??? Spıke Ѧ 13:48 25-Jan-13

edit Preggos

As you are still hard at work, let's discuss the underlying issue. You may cite evolution, but the non-pregnant female form is obviously the most arousing thing to most males and, in my opinion, the pregnant female form is merely a necessary temporary consequence. While I can understand some pride-of-achievement if a male happens to be the knocker-up, I cannot understand the fetish value of a distended female belly, any more than I can relate to infatuation over the pre-pubescent (though I am not Catholic). Why is this sexy??? Spıke Ѧ 15:53 25-Jan-13

Because people can be weird (To clarify, the page in question is parody, and Hype probably doesn't have all of those fetishes. Although, someone, or rather, quite a few people, does.) --Mn-z 16:13, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Mind you, my question is not, "What's with you, Mnbvcxz?" but nothing more than, Why is this sexy??? To whomever. Spıke Ѧ 16:27 25-Jan-13

I would site evolutionary reasons. There would be advantages and disadvantages to going after pregnant or non-pregnant females. The pregnant female is definitely willing and able to procreate, but is more likely to have a partner, or be raising children of another male. Also, a male with a pregnancy attraction would be more likely to stay with a mate during pregnancy, but from an evolutionary perspective, that could be good or bad depending on the situation. However, either strategy would make more sense to homosexuality or bestiality or 85% of all fetishes. Also, Meganew also has a pregnancy fetish. --Mn-z 17:07, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
The last time I was with a pregnant chick her water broke, and man, that was some goooooood lovin'. We went at it like two porpises slick with the salt of the ocean, and by the time the baby came out and I was pounding away at the placenta (she was screaming the whole time, it must have been so good for her!) I spent myself all over her and the babies faces. I could hear crying, and didn't really know which one it was. Aleister (that will be 10 euros for reading this porn, thank you, pay a few hundred in advance and I'll write a whole page of this for you)
Actually, I'm merely a fan of the belly newts. If anyone here has a pregnancy fetish, it would be Mnbvcxz. He did create a shrine dedicated to all things pregnant, after all. --Revolutionary, Anti-Bensonist, and TYATU Boss Uncyclopedian Meganew (Chat) (Care for a peek at my work?) (SUCK IT, FROGGY!) 18:50, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Regards to your preggo fixations Meganew and Mnz..I guess you know all about this page. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 19:31, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
I already mentioned that wikipedia believes the venus figurines to be erotic images on aleister's talk page. The joke also appears in UnNews:Medical Cause of Unpregnancy Fetishism Discovered --Mn-z 19:47, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Labor party is really funny and a unique twist. Did you just dash this off or is it an older page? hahahahahahaha Aleister (whoops, almost signed my real name again, Mortimer J. Cousinbumper)
That is a new page. Also, to clarify in case someone gets confused I DO NOT HAVE A LABOR FETISH. --Mn-z 12:27, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Very nice work, and with polishing, a classic of pregnancy. Can I (or you) add in that stuff about fucking the placenta and cumming all over the faces of the baby and the mother? Please please please. Mortimer J. Cousinbumper 12:33
That wouldn't fit with the tone of the article. --Mn-z 12:50, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

edit Chatting up IPs

Would you please look at yesterday's discussion with Aleister in Sec.14 of my talk page? In my opinion, the only reason to talk to an IP is to encourage one who seems good to sign up. If he makes the commitment to sign up, he is worth personal instruction. One who seems bad may be very bad--a vandal--and may be doing it only for the reward of getting attention paid to him. A revert is attention but is required; a personal note may bring him around or may simply encourage more misconduct. Your call. Spıke Ѧ 20:20 25-Jan-13

We should not assume every IP is acting in bad faith. What he was doing was stupid, but more noobery than vandalism. --Mn-z 20:23, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

This particular case was adding bad content by way of imitating what was already there. It could have been noobery or vandalism; I only set out to discuss the possible risk of sending him a personal note. Cheers. Spıke Ѧ 20:27 25-Jan-13

IMO: IPs are actually people. As an IP here one of my first acts was minor vandalism - not out of any malice but out of a misunderstanding of the purpose of the site. If someone had said “Don't do that because…” at the time I would have listened. I may not be in the majority of IPs that edit, but better to encourage genuine potential than not.                               Puppy's talk page11:08 25 Jan

Perhaps rationales and general guidance could be given in the Change Summary rather than by using Rollback. If Anon is a vandal, a "personal note" on one's very own talk page is a reward that is more likely to provoke more vandalism. I encourage the positive with anon talk pages, but don't have comparable hopes of converting negative to positive. Spıke Ѧ 23:39 25-Jan-13

Obvious vandalism is blanking, leaving some crap message ('My name is Dave and I like bananas' type) on a number of pages and inserting links to porn sites. Leaving messages for IPs is tricky as that ends up as a user page. Problem is people come to Uncyclopedia thinking adding stupid is the house style here (like no house style). One way is to lock a page to prevent further damage but only admins can do that. Very often noobs go to already bad pages and go fly tipping on them. The ones that start extending lists and such like. I agree, edit history could be used a lot more but I am sure many ips read those logs. Anyway, I am open to ideas. It is true, many users have started off as and only later decide to create an account. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:59, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

edit UnNews:Iran launches monkey into space

Please move "in to" -> "into" before anyone links to this! Cheers. Spıke Ѧ 16:34 28-Jan-13

edit File:Greatseal.jpg

The uploader was Pastacarlo and I've told him on his talk page why he should pick a different name for his photo. Spıke Ѧ 16:22 30-Jan-13

Sorry for the mix up, Mnbvcxz. Still getting used to the editor. Pastacarlo (talk) 18:35, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

edit Generic and specific humor

Thanks for supporting me on VFD to delete Sarvajanik College of Engineering and Technology. But you raise the same issue you did with Peru on VFH (I replied to you there): that an article is a mix of humor that is too generic and humor that is too specific (funny only to insiders). The question is how ever to write a good article, as all humor is either based on the facts or based on tried-and-true generic techniques. Are you saying that no article on the given topic could ever satisfy you? Spıke Ѧ 14:07 1-Feb-13

The issue is commonly called "towncruft". The reader doesn't have enough background to get most of the jokes that the author might write. Additionally, nothing really sets the subject apart from similar entities. The issue isn't general versus specific, but the author writing about information that only a native would get. Paradoxically, to the "uninformed" reader, it seems like the bulk of the article could be applied to several similar entities.
This might actually be true of notable subjects. However, the reader generally has enough background information to "get" the jokes. --Mn-z 14:35, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

So it does seem to me to be about the reader rather than the writing; that is, the choice of page title. How is anyone going to write about the state of Kerala, India (which took two tries to reach the main page)? One's choices are only generic third-world pratfalls, or humor based on institutions inside Kerala (whatever they are).

I understand what you are saying; I only don't understand why it isn't unconditional to any humor strategy. Spıke Ѧ 14:48 1-Feb-13 Certain topics do put one behind the eight-ball. For example Miranda Cosgrove's Uterus is quite good for being an article about an inside joke-based wacky womb war. However, it still is an article about an inside joke based wacky womb war, so I don't expect it ever to be featured. --Mn-z 15:39, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Hmphh! I say we redirect Category:Wombs to Special:Contributions/Mnbvcxz! Happy editing! Spıke Ѧ 16:01 1-Feb-13

I know there is a better way to explain what I am getting at. There are ways of writing on obscure topics without going into towncruft. However, if you need to explain every joke, or worse, assume your reader has the background information to get every joke, then the article won't be funny. --Mn-z 16:34, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well, what you are getting at is simply a classic dilemma, as in, damned if you do, damned if you don't. Yes, there must be background information for every joke, and you will either need to explain it, assume the reader already knows it, or rely on themes that might be called generic. In Section 2.4 of Peru, on the recent Presidents, for instance, the truth itself is funny (when told the right way). Aleister had a specific gripe with this article: Too many quotes (which I've fixed slightly; and I concede that all the Spanish at the start is off-putting), but your complaint seems unsolvable by any article about the place. Spıke Ѧ 17:40 3-Feb-13

edit Promotion to Captain

Although nobody cares since Rev. Zim ulator abdicated, you stood for Admin, were universally agreed to be one of the serious candidates, got a respectable handful of votes and some very nice things said about you, and had the great fortune of contriving to get not too many votes. I am pleased to promote you to the rank of Captain of Uncyclopedia on that basis. (I am new at this, so forgive me if you already held a higher rank.)

edit UnNews:Special play performed in Toronto

You still can't spell! Try renaming it again. Spıke Ѧ 22:06 4-Feb-13

preformed is a word. Albeit the wrong one. --Mn-z 22:12, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

edit Grammar nazi

Yikes! I simply exchanged the meat and the redirect and edited neither. You're right that the lower-n nazi now redirected to itself. Thanks for fixing my screw-up. Spıke Ѧ 20:10 9-Feb-13

edit Good grief

Now that is how you do a pee review.

I would have to agree that there is too much hatecruft. It's especially unsavory, since I love Charlie Brown, and hatefulness doesn't seem to catch the spirit of the beloved Christmas special. I also plan to work on the soundtrack section, since the A Charlie Brown Christmas soundtrack apparently has importance. This is the kind of thing I plan to polish throughout the year so it will shine by the Christmas season.

Do you think it would work better with the UnScript formatting? It is a show about a play, after all. -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 00:43, Feb. 10, 2013

An unscript could work. However, there are limitations to the style. Basically, an Unscript would expand the "plot" section, but remove everything else. Since, the plot section is about 2/3 of your article, it would probably open more doors than it closes. --Mn-z 11:19, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

edit On the utility of multiple wikis to hold our work

PuppyOnTheRadio, on my talk page, has talked me out of giving the recent Forum a better name than "A suggestion". But your so-called "rant" opens a different topic and seems to belong in a separate Forum so it can be found more easily in the future. Spıke Ѧ 13:52 11-Feb-13

I reworked and expanded by thoughts some and posted it here: Forum:On_the_utility_of_multiple_wikis_to_hold_our_work. I trust your admin judgement on how to deal with Forum:A suggestion. My comments do sidetrack the post, but they are somewhat relevant to the concerns brought up. --Mn-z 14:26, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Your trust in my admin judgement is vindicated, as it included asking around and accepting Puppy's argument not to implement my first admin judgement! Separately, I just read a short essay for investors that touches on many aspects of poor-quality-of-implementation. ("What do you mean backup is not daily on this wiki?!") Spıke Ѧ 14:32 11-Feb-13

That really isn't relevant to this project. We are producing Copyleft material, so we are not concerned with "security" in the same sense that a business would be. AKA our content can be taken without our permission or knowledge. --Mn-z 18:15, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

edit Steady now

Leverage (talk) 21:23, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

The pics aren't nearly good enough to care about. --Mn-z 18:13, February 14, 2013 (UTC)
The pix can't be seen in the UK (self loathing censorship by the British press). Hence all the blanking! --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 23:03, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

edit Evil Jesus

Why? Why? A thousand time, oh look, a money on the ground. I'm glad you took the template off, I dislike that big template. But how did Evil Jesus lose his place among the legion of evil doers? He's so evil that even Evel Knievel couldn't jump him. Al 14:38 15-2-'13

Because his seat went to Justin Bieber. --Mn-z 14:43, February 15, 2013 (UTC)
I hope you joke, for Bieber isn't evil, just irritating. Adding him would be random. Evil Jesus has no seat, he just is. And he shall return to blaze across the heavens once again! Aleister 20:07 15-2-'13

edit LOL

I saw your edit to "Paleolithic Age" (e-mail notification) and the summary "needless link to my userspace" and got a huge kick out of it. Glad to see you're back, I always liked you in an internet kind of way. I'm still in defiant, stubborn, drama queen mode myself. Cheers! --DRStrangesig5 Sherman Fingertalk  17:27, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

The link was to a copy of the mainspace version of the article. I say "was" because the userpage was deleted back in 2009. --Mn-z 17:34, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

edit FYI to you and Pup

I will not accept MrN9000's invitation to discuss "a few wiki" even not knowing whether he is playing Good Cop or Bad Cop today. Anything involving the future of the wiki or of me can be discussed publicly. Romartus was the other one receiving that offer, but he assures me he will not be schmoozed into quitting. Spıke Ѧ 14:02 20-Feb-13

edit New Unquotable template?

UnNews Logo Potato
UnNews Senior Editors are currently arguing over the gender-neutrality of this related article:

Obama dashes Republican hopes, takes oath of office

As you are rationalizing the Unquotable pages, in some cases you are referencing them only in the See also section of the matching article in mainspace. Why doesn't Unquotable have a cross-mainspace nav-template as UnNews does? Spıke Ѧ 11:29 23-Feb-13

I think a single link template might come across as clutter-y. It basically uses a colored box when a link would suffice. --Mn-z 12:48, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, a link would suffice; but when the reader has just chunked out two long paragraphs with no illustrations, this excuse for clutter is helpful on the eyes. At least, that was our excuse for the UnNews one. Perhaps add instructions in the template warning the user to be judicious. Spıke Ѧ 19:19 24-Feb-13

edit Miranda Cosgrove

I see you categorizing a photo uploaded yesterday to which I gave this name. The uploader used it in Miranda Cosgrove's clitoris, which had not an ounce of funny; I posted to him when he graduated to Miranda Cosgrove's vagina with identical, lecherous text. I did not expect him to do anything funny with Clitoris, but thought you might. If you don't intend to, I'll QVFD it. Spıke Ѧ 12:41 24-Feb-13

Ironically, I'm working on it right now. --Mn-z 12:45, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Like many claims of irony, that's not irony but coincidence. But--thanks. Spıke Ѧ 12:48 24-Feb-13

PS--Yikes! Look at all the excess capital letters in section heads at Miranda Cosgrove's Uterus (including one in that title). Poptropica was another article that a new user started yesterday and a real Uncyclopedian had to finish; the noob's stub lives on at Section 5. Spıke Ѧ 13:11 24-Feb-13

I went ahead a fleshed out his ideas at Miranda Cosgrove's clitoris. However, I also added a construction tag. I'm willing to help him write the article, but I don't think I have enough ideas to complete it. I think one article on a part of Miranda Cosgrove's reproductive system is sufficient. --Mn-z 20:04, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
It's good to see the two of you have given Miranda Cosgrove's vagina a thorough going over. (I haven't looked at any of the articles, but this conversation made me laugh.)                               Puppy's talk page11:03 24 Feb 2013

The "irony" that you note at Unquotable:Founding Fathers regarding George Washington and penis jokes, isn't irony either, but ineptitude. Spıke Ѧ 19:17 24-Feb-13

On second look, it does seem that your use of {{Factoid}} is mostly to criticize another author, in-line, for being ignorant at American History (which is not even a bar to writing good comedy). Spıke Ѧ 19:22 24-Feb-13

I feel as though that fact should be shoe-horned in somewhere, but it does come off as arguing with other editors. --Mn-z 20:01, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

edit Links to the Fork

I don't think your statement to Hindleyite at Forum:Audio deletion request is where we left this during VFS. No one is under the illusion that we can keep people from learning the URL of the Fork. The principle is to avoid advertising other sites gratuitously--under the general principle of not using Wikia's servers to direct traffic elsewhere. Ironically, this means that Hindleyite's link is okay--as he renamed his Forum, as I requested, on this side only--while yours is an example of the "Look what I can get away with" that we often see, and object to, when it comes from the Forkers. Spıke Ѧ 12:26 8-Mar-13

I was talking about his sig link to illogicopedia, not his in-text link. --Mn-z 14:01, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Yup; and that one he has now fixed. Spıke Ѧ 14:05 8-Mar-13

edit Template:OWQ et al.

I rebuffed your request to delete this and three other quotecruft templates on QVFD (now archived), asking that you first work on Uncyclopedia:Templates/In-universe/Quotes, a page where an Old Master teaches young Grasshoppers how to write crap articles by imitation. It is a directory of much that you have obsoleted. Spıke Ѧ 00:20 14-Mar-13

That is part of the template listing page. So long as the template still exists, there is a reason to have documentation for it. The quote template list does not suggest spamming quotes. --Mn-z 12:57, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
I went ahead and added some template usage information on that page. --Mn-z 18:07, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; that page needs a few finishing touches. FYI, "Depreciated" means having something's price drop, or not valuing sufficiently; deprecated is the word meaning recommended not to be used, like tags in web pages before STYLE came along. Now, they are not just deprecated; they are disappeared. Spıke Ѧ 18:49 14-Mar-13

In the usage guide, you suggest that quotes are used to make articles look like Wikipedia articles. However, Wikipedia articles rarely, perhaps never, start with a quote. Additionally, wikipedia uses a different quote format that is more like a real-life block quote rather than our over formatted quote template. Starting an article with a quote makes it look as though it is not a wikipedia article. I personally am of the opinion that one should always try to start with text, rather than a quote or colored box. --Mn-z 13:06, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

In fact, I have never seen any encyclopedia where the articles begin with quotations. Do you have any idea, then, why we began doing this in the first place? How should that article advise new editors? "Quotations flagrantly break the canon, but be sure not to be stupid about it, to boot"? Spıke Ѧ 13:12 15-Mar-13

Legacycruft. Every article in 2005 had header quotes, so everyone thought that article are supposed to have header quotes. Eventually, people realized that header quotes were, in fact, not funny. However, although header quotes were dialed back, they weren't completely abandoned. People didn't think that every article needed a header quote, nor did they think that 10 header quotes and 3 colored boxes should go on an article. However, people still thought that a header quote could be a normal part of an article. Even today, people think that {{Q}} should be used in lieu of quotation marks on uncyclopedia.
Now as to why this is, the short answer is that it is easier to add listcruft and one-liners to an article then to write paragraphs. Quotes were an easy way to add one-liners. Once quotes were established, they became part of the Uncyclopedia cliches, and people tend to confuse inside jokes with humor. Their cliche status is part of the reason why the survived for so long even though no-one in the real world uses a similar method of quoting. In fact, Unquotable does not even use the quote template to quote people.
As for how to handle the issue, I would recommend discouraging its use. I don't mean in the "don't abuse it" sense, but in the "this template doesn't help ever" sense. --Mn-z 15:29, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
I wrote a mini rant on the subject at Forum:A Fun Fact About Header Quotes --Mn-z 15:42, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

edit Where have you been?

VFD is languishing without you. We are not yet to the point where I will huff articles with only one supporting vote. Spıke Ѧ 12:59 5-Apr-13

edit UnSignpost

UnSignpost has changed mangement and I have taken charge. I realise that you have been a contributor to UnSignpost. Please send any articles that you want to contribute to UnSignpost to the press room as we are desperate for new articles. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 16:33, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

Here is the first UnSignpost after being taken over as all the previous editors left:

Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 16:35, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

Romartus told me you knew how bots worked as well so if you could help send it out when the next one comes out (4th May). Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 16:47, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

edit Award

Wherever you went, I believe you left this behind: Spıke Ѧ 23:23 21-May-13

BePrepared Uncyclopedian of the Month March-April 2013

edit Ive pissed all over your article

And I marked my territory --ShabiDOO 17:35, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

edit Dilbert

Dilbert - The Pregnancy21:55

Dilbert - The Pregnancy

You didn't by chance write this episode, did you? -- Kip > Talk Works Puzzle Potato Dry Brush CUN Icons-flag-us 22:39, Sep. 5, 2013

edit For your great UnNews pieces...

Please accept the Foolitzer Prize for February 2013! Come back and write more, if you wish, or it will be taken away from you! Anton (talk) 16:55, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Please, please, PLEASE We hope you do come back. Sir ScottPat (converse) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:27, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
Dittoes, "M". I have been ripping out initial quotations in your memory, but it just ain't the same. Spıke Ѧ 19:31 7-Apr-14
Perhaps he was taken away by the Preggos...--LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:56, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

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