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Merry Xmas!

Bonner would like to wish you

a Merry Christgame
And a happy New Game
P.S, You just lost the game
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Have a not-shitty Christmas!

WinterBreakCalendar Heya, The Led Balloon here, wishing you merry Christmas, or any other holiday you feel like celebrating. Just remember what it's all really about: NO WORK, NO SCHOOL, FREE STUFF!!!
Here's to hoping your school(or work) calendar for December doesn't look too much like this...

Merry Christmas, - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon Baloon(Tick Tock) (Contribs) 00:41, Dec 17

Bloody Pagans

Pagans, the Whole Lot of Yous

Premier Tom Mayfair has been a naughty boy this year, but he still deserves a kiss from under the mistletoe. His external organ is fair game.

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Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas. ~ Mitch

-- Mitch Icons-flag-au 13:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


Do you know what never mind the buzzcocks is.

Which aspect of the page was so bad it had to be deleted. Please do act smart and say everything.

oh yea - sorry for posting this stuff on your wikia page too


Seriously, nobody cares. It was listed in QVFD page, so I deleted. It didn't appear to be too good, so I huffed. It is just an article. If you want stuff not to get huffed, either spend more time on making it look professional or register an account, create a user subpage and put the article into the subpage. Or both. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 18:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Heisenberg Deletion

Hello and Merry Christmas. I stumbled across this page and proceeded to hack away at it without noticing (i) the blatantly obvious slepping mistake and (ii) that a page with the "correct" spelling already exists - can you delete the one with the incorrect spelling please?

--JGDross 09:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Huffed. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 13:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Will & Grace jokes list

Hi there,

You huffed the article "List of jokes in Will & Grace", stating that this is not Wikipedia. I know this - the article was a concept article, the supposed "joke" being that there were no jokes.

Would it be possible to get this article re-instated? The preceding unsigned comment was added by JGDross (talk • contribs)

It was listed on the QVFD page twice. I didn't find it too funny either and I do agree with the people that submitted it into the QVFD. So no, I won't restore it (well, I can c+p the deleted version to a user subpage of yours if you'd like that), but I can suggest making it a part of the main article. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 13:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough - I thought you just deleted it because it contained the word "list" and thought it was an attempt at an article with some sort of factual content. Thanks for letting me know, anywho. --JGDross 13:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

24 Tenth Season?

Hi Jack. Great job on making the video-wiki button and link disappear! Maybe you can help me out deleting more content from other pages (this one, maybe?).
At last we have found the plot for 24 tenth season: Jack Bauer is on the run to restore the video-wiki button and link to Uncyclopedia. Will he succeed? fail? If you don't want it to happen (I mean, 7 seasons are more than enough, don't you think?) you know what to do... UnThx, IdoSet 13:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Loads of thanks

You finally made a friggin Uncyc talk page! Excellent. Well, ever since our first encounter on IRC (where I whored to you, I believe), you moved up the ranks far faster than I. Now everybody loves you. I'm just glad to get a slice of the pie, namely on VFS twice. Thanks a bundle.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 04:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Heh, being a Wikia whore might help in that. <g>
But it was about time you got +sysop - cheers! --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 13:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Did someone say whore? — Sir Manticore progress-wheel.gif 09:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks be to you!

Thanks again for the votes, and for being such a cool, sexy, and helpful admin, - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon Baloon(Tick Tock) (Contribs) 05:05, Mar 1

Yay! Now I have two admins that can delete crap while I laze around. \o/ --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 13:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)



Hey there,

Thanks for voting your friendly janitorial whore in as admin. If there's anything you need, don't hesitate to contact Spike instead. No, seriously, I'm very lazy. But that's a good thing, right?

Love always,


Per topic. Also, thankies. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 14:58, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


Sir Manticore progress-wheel.gif 08:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Aww, I <3 u 2. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 13:55, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for Vote

Thanks for voteing for my article;)--— Sir Sycamore (talk) 08:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

othx :) --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 19:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Adam and Eve

I'm in an edit war with someone who won, "Wanker of the Month" over my article, Adam and Eve. Please sort this out before one or both of us gets banned under the 3 reverts rule. Proxima Centauri

Two things. First, my userpage is controlled vandalism, and that is a joke award. Welcome to Uncyclopedia. Second, the article that you made is a stub. Stubs are bad. Also, I doubt that Jack Phoenix is the one that you want to run to, as he's probably more busy elsewhere on Wikia. Sig_pic.PNG Unsolicited conversation Extravagant beauty PEEING 17:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Responded at the articles talk page. ~Jewriken.GIF 20:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


Good to see you again! :D - RougethebatAdmiral Enzo Aquarius-Dial the Gate SonicLivesPicture 22:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

You thought you'd get rid of me that easily? Pfft, not likely. ;-) --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 11:39, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the vote

Thanks for the vote - you're a star:)— Sir Sycamore (talk) 15:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks, hehe. ;-) --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 14:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

newbie needs help

how do i become an administator. plz help,im a wikipedian refugee .Raja1020 23:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

In two words: You don't. Navwheel-small.png» DJ "Reaper of Fail" Gentoo, now with wit, sarcasm, and even more obscure folk metal. Now in lime green! 21:48, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Bonner would like to wish you

a Merry Christgame
And a happy New Game
P.S, You just lost the game
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STRONG BONNER! I mean, thanks and you too, although this is a bit late. ;-) --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 12:15, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Hanukkah

Started already before I got this, but thank you, it's the thought that counts. :-) --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 12:15, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


Festivus-card Happy Festivus, from The Led Balloon and Jerry Stiller. Put up your Festivus Pole, air your grievances, and prepare for the feats of strength, for festivus cannot continue until I am pinned! Oh, and merry Christmas if you're into that sort of thing.
It's a Festivus miracle!

- P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon Baloon(Tick Tock) (Contribs) 20:35, Dec 21

Woohoo! \o/ Thanks, dude. ;-) --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 12:15, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Here's Your Christmas Tree

----Pleb- Sawblade5 [block me!] ( yell | FAQ | I did this ) 10:01, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Yay potatos! --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 12:15, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


SAFPAS For your vote in VFS
You have been awarded a Certificate guaranteeing you safe passage within Uncyclopedia's borders if Zionist domination is eventually established.

Rabbi Techno

Hmm...s/if/when/, I suppose? --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 17:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


Why did you Huff "secret Sauce" the details on it are very secret I would just like you to know that and if you think you can do better go a head The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs)


you deleted "secret sauce" and i would like to complain, I'd like to you do better on a subject that has no details on it... go on try The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs)

Well you can always try complaining, but I can always ignore your complaints. And revert your edits. And ban you. For a looooooong time. Wanna try? If you don't, I'd suggest learning some English. "anoyed" and "retarted" are not words. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 14:23, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


Can you take a look at this? it's beyond my mediawiki abilities. I was thinking it's done via common.js, but couldn't get it to work. ~Jewriken.GIF 16:16, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Done. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 21:27, January 28, 2010 (UTC)


What's your problem with Montenegrina? --Bald dude Roman Dog Bird!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Bald dude 21:55, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

I have no problem with said user at all. I just don't appreciate comments like this. A simple "why did you delete my article?" would have done and I'd have explained it nicely. Flaming me and recreating the same, unfunny ministub over and over again ain't helping. The Beginner's Guide to Being an Uncyclopedian states that "If it's been deleted and you recreate it, I think you can guess what'll happen next". --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 22:25, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

This is Montenegrina, I am so sorry, but I am new to Uncyclopedia. I am still not sure how it works. Did not mean to be rude to you. We all make mistakes,mostly not deliberatelly. Once again I apologise I thought I had not saved it properly and I simply repeated it. And I liked it, it was nice for me, but if you didnt its fine for me that you deleted it. Thats why this wonderfull Uncyclopedia exists. We dont have to like the same and then when we dont like we may do that its gone. But I didnt mean to make you angry. Why should I. Have a nice day or night whichever it is wherever you are And you know what else I am sick and tired of people who constantly PUNISH and DISCIPLINE you and DEMAND nice behaviour otherwise they will prosecute. I guess you also, they just pretend to be polite, but they can be sometimes very cruel. It is easy to punish, to help and forgive much easier and makes YOU feel good. Try it. PS If you ever visit Montenegro, just send me an emai. Lets go for a nice beer somewhere.


SAFPAS For your vote in VFS

and as promised last time
You have been awarded a Certificate guaranteeing you safe passage whilst inside those areas of Uncyclopedia under Zionist domination.
Certificate also redeemable for one (1) free bagel at your nearest grocery - simply print out and present
to the shopkeeper to claim your free bagel with the filling of your choice.

Rabbi Techno


Good work Phoenix fella! --UU - natter UU Manhole 10:51, May 7

Thank you UU, it's good to hear that not everyone loves Rich Text Editor and all other new stuff Wikia pushes down our throats. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 10:53, May 7, 2010 (UTC)


So long since I've played with wikicoding... -- Sir Mhaille Icons-flag-gb (talk to me)

No problem, I noticed the invalid link and decided to fix it. I've had similar problems myself in the past because image syntax did not always have the link= parameter, so people had to use <imagemap> instead to make images where the link is something else than the image's description page. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 14:43, May 11, 2010 (UTC)


Hey buddy, you kind of locked the page "Weegee", even though there is no page... Me and my freind want to make a page on it and its locked by you. Can you please unlock it? That would be swell. Reply under this message if possible, thanks.


Done, enjoy! --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 07:19, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


WASP Killer

Let's make a few things clear here, pal. Firstly, you don't demand anything, you ask nicely. Secondly, no need to YELL LIKE THIS at me. Thirdly, you're barking at the wrong tree admin, try Roman Dog Bird instead (and I'm sure that he'll ban you if you keep goin' with that attitude, just saying). --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 15:56, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Silly question

Did you ever figure out what was wrong with the thing to check if stuff was already on ban patrol with the script? Because I just tried it, and the thing does work, apparently. Un...

Oh! Nevermind; I was testing it on you - it doesn't work on you, because your name has a space. Replacing the space, it still checks if the list includes a non-space-version... I mean, I don't know this for a fact, but that'd make sense, wouldn't it? Would you be able to fix that on the check itself, same thing as you did to the writing on it bit? 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 11:50, 29 March 2011

Maybe this helps. On the other hand, maybe not. If it fails, I'd suggest copying the gadget code to a user subpage of yours, disabling the gadget in Special:Preferences and loading this new user subpage in your uncyclopedia.js with importScriptPage(); that way you could modify the gadget locally and test your changes (spamming the code with alert()s and console.log()s is always fun and maybe you'll learn something new about JS — I know I've learned plenty of stuff by debugging some annoying scripts). --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 13:10, March 29, 2011 (UTC)


I was wondering what the ban summary was going to be for that guy. You exceeded my expectations. Well done sir. Jackofspades (talk) 21:31, 8 April 2011

I aim to please. No, not like that... --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 21:35, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

can i get the page "Holland." moved to "Holland" ? thanks

hi jack, great work with this.!


why would someone write that about Allah among all names you chose to make fun of Allah. this shit should be illegal . this has nothing to do with being funny or freedom of speech you causing pain to people this way. how long will it take before you realize that this is really bad and immature. it's not even worth making someone laugh. I mean if laughs have to be on the account of others,the pain of others. this is awfully selfish. 01:01, June 7, 2011 (UTC) Al Zach

No idea who you are

But hi. --1 year of Lollipop (TALK) - updated on 31 August 2011, at 01:03

Hi! --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 23:28, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

LangName templates

Well it took me a while and I think I destroyed recent changes and my mind, but I fixed 'em all. I don't think any more templates and userpages should be broken anymore. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 09:15, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

You break it, you fix it, or else we break you. So that was a good choice you made there. ;-) --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 23:28, June 16, 2012 (UTC)
Thank-you for the speedy response. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 10:47, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
It's what I try to aim for. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 15:19, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Jack!

I've noticed that there's a change in the format of Uncyclopedia. What do I mean? Well, I was editing an article, when the next thing I looked up, the buttons labelled "Edit", "+", "History" and "Watch" were moved more to my left. I'm not complaining or anything, I'd just like you to Fill me in on this change.

Please contact me on my talk page, sir. Thank you.

-Sir Matthew Philip Matthlock, Attorney at Law LLC, 1-800-MTT-HLCK (Give me a call!) 01:15, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Actually never mind, sir, it's gone, must've been some sort of malfunction. (Because things are now back to normal) -Sir Matthew Philip Matthlock, Attorney at Law LLC, 1-800-MTT-HLCK (Give me a call!) 01:17, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
I blame Wikia, just like we all do. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 23:28, June 16, 2012 (UTC)


Where'd you come from? ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usSat, Jun 16 '12 23:22 (UTC)

From the same place we all come from.
Besides that, I've always been around, just lurking. Come say hi someday! --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 23:28, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

face book share/like button

Hey Jack Phoenix...remember know me...we never talk to each other. So yeah...that means you owe me a favour right?! Fair...isnt it?

It would be really nice if we could get the facebook share button working. Aparantly the old one was broken (maybe because of all the code this site is based on...I don't know). According to Zombie Baron you are a coding maybe you could help?

If the site can't have a generic share button on the skin, would you know how to put share buttons on specific pages? I tried the following two methods, to no success.

I copied the code on the developers.facebook onto the wiki, but it doesn't read that code, maybe because the wiki code is not the same as website code? As for the help.wikia I have no idea how to access those tools. I've also dropped a line with Bizzebeever and Olipro...but I have a feeling you'll beat them too sexy hunk you (shabidoo flutters his eyelashes). xoxoxox --ShabiDOO 18:15, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

Facebook and nice in the same sentence? Does not compute!
Even if we ignore my personal thoughts on Facebook and how they treat people's data, your proposal still has some problems. You refer to an old version of the Facebook share button, but to my knowledge, there hasn't been such a thing. At least I haven't seen any.
I (and plenty of other users, I'm sure) use Monobook, not the Vector-looklike "Uncyclopedia" skin, so some things might be different if you're not using Monobook.
And I have no idea why you thought that the Wikia way of doing things works.
All that aside, I probably can whip up some delicious JavaScript for you if you give me specs that are detailed enough. Basically I'd need to know where such a button would appear on the skin at least...I'll let you know if I manage to come up with further requirements.
And yes, wikitext is not HTML; wikitext accepts a limited number of HTML tags, but Facebook's non-standard tags are certainly not among those. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 21:47, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
Hey Jack...thanks for the reply. The only thing I'd like to implement (at least for now) is to put a button on individual that when one clicks on it, it puts the link on the persons face book wall, and not the more complicated option. Would you be able to pull something like that out of your but?

this code was given on a site: I frame (whatever the hell that is): <iframe src="Some Facebook URL" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px; height:px">

Java: <fb:like href="Your URL" layout="standard" show-faces="true" width="450" action="like" colorscheme="light" />

And once we have a little button like that...we can take on the far more challenging job of putting it on the whole site. Or am I really stupid and not get how this works?

big kisses and hugs and eskimo kisses!--ShabiDOO 09:08, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, because I'm a programmer, allow me to rant at you about the big differences between JavaScript (JS) and Java; they're as similar as apples and oranges; both are fruits (programming languages) but that's about it.
Now, I threw up a quick, dirty and untested JS hack in a few minutes; it's not pretty, but it should work...I hope. Try it and let me know how badly it fails:
 * Annoying Facebook like button, at Shabidoo's request.
 * The like button iframe element is inserted inside the element which has the
 * class "annoying-fb-like-button". For example:
 * <span class="annoying-fb-like-button"></span>
 * Users can opt out from like buttons by setting "disableFBLikeButton = true;"
 * in their skin.js page.
 * Naturally I've also exempted myself from this.
 * The commented-out calls to mw.config.get() are the ResourceLoader-compatible
 * calls to get certain JS globals. Read more about RL on
 * At the time when I wrote this (3 July 2012), Uncyclopedia was running a
 * legacy version (1.16.5) of MediaWiki which did not support ResourceLoader,
 * hence why I commented those out. ResourceLoader was introduced in MW 1.17.
 * @author Jack Phoenix <>
 * @date 3 July 2012
jQuery( document ).ready( function() {
	var userName = wgUserName;//mw.config.get( 'wgUserName' );
	if (
		typeof userName !== 'undefined' &&
		( userName !== 'Jack Phoenix' || typeof disableFBLikeButton !== 'undefined' && disableFBLikeButton !== true ) ||
		userName === null // sucks to be you, anon
		jQuery( '.annoying-fb-like-button' ).each( function( index ) {
			if ( jQuery( this ).length > 0 ) {
				jQuery( this ).html(
					'<iframe src="//' +
						wgServer + wgArticlePath.replace( '$1', wgPageName )
						//mw.config.get( 'wgServer' ) +
						//mw.config.get( 'wgArticlePath' ).replace( '$1',
						//	mw.config.get( 'wgPageName' ) )
					) +
					'&amp;send=false&amp;layout=standard&amp;width=450&amp;show_faces=false&amp;action=like&amp;colorscheme=light&amp;font&amp;height=35" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px; height:35px;" allowTransparency="true"></iframe>'
		} );
} );
--User:Jack Phoenix/sig 15:19, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

How would you like to participate in a forum I've created?

Forum:Are you a Matthlock? Welcome to the machine MATTHLOCK 21:04, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 05:17, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

You're probably right and all

But I'm the wrong person to complain to. I was just copypasting the code Bizzeebeever ordered me to put there. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:40, 16 July 2012

I'll complain to everybody and their aunt until they learn to indent with tabs instead of spaces. ;-) Or I could just go and implement some JavaScript-based solution (read: hack) that is active only on .css/.js pages... --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 23:43, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, hello, Mr. High and Mighty Arbiter of The Way Things Are Done. Up yours. It's not Sock's fault, it's Wikipedia's fault, because that's where I cut and pasted that code from. So if you have issues with the CSS formatting, blame them, not Mr. Socky. Jeez. Make assumptions much? ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usTue, Jul 17 '12 4:36 (UTC)
How can you guys just go around doing things without making sure that the result of it all isn't some total screw up of epic radioactive proportions. It puts a dark rotten seed in my stomache that will grow into some sort of concentration camp of Armenian refugees who are forced into slave labour to print copies of the Koran to sell them to raise enough money to blow up the moon. Thats the kind of thing that will happen if you aren't more careful about the things you guys go around doing on this website. Zheesh! --ShabiDOO 05:21, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
/me indents shabidoo's face ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usTue, Jul 17 '12 5:36 (UTC)
The Internet is serious business, and Uncyclopedia even more so.
But it does worry me that a mortal decides to copypaste random code from some external wiki (in this case, Wikipedia) and that an admin who isn't totally sure what the code does adds it to the site-wide CSS page. This time no actual harm was done and nothing blew up, but what if we had been dealing with JavaScript that alters document.location, for example? Let's just say that it doesn't take a genius to write a one-liner JS snippet to redirect all users to an external (possibly malicious) site.
Thirdly, if I was blaming someone...let's just say that a joke block would not be involved. It was supposed to be a reminder; "this didn't quite go the way it was supposed to, but maybe it will the next time". Apologies if it didn't seem like that; when you fix up a crapload of crappy code, you'll eventually get sick and tired of having to do it again and again and again and...see what I mean here?
Coding style, like other minor and insignificant things, such as recycling and whatnot, is meant to help, not just you or me, but everyone. Small things can make a big difference — and I for one would prefer the difference to be a good one, not a bad one. --User:Jack Phoenix/sig 15:14, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
Ok, point taken, but (1) I'm not just some 'mortal', I'm a specific mortal named Bizzeebeever who's been around the site for a little over a year, and who's written several other code snippets which are in use by other users, mainly the patrol script which we use for maintenance (Socky, MrN9000, Lyrithya, RAHB, Frosty, SPIKE and others can vouch for my skills). (2) I never grab "random" crap from other wikis; this was copied and pasted directly from Wikipedia to work with our new {{Navbox}}, which also came from there. (3) I fully explained to Socky where the code came from and what it did before he put it in the site-CSS, and I doubt he would just toss stuff in there if somebody else asked.
While I am familiar with MediaWiki's best-practices, and I've used tab-indentation ever since I started with HTML, Javascript and CSS over fourteen years ago, I chose not to change the code at all, so that if Socky wanted to, he could do a search-and-compare with Wikipedia's CSS.
To sum up: it wasn't just some blind lark, I know what I'm doing (mostly), and Socky was familiar with me and well-informed, and trusted my changes. :) ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usWed, Jul 18 '12 16:36 (UTC)

September admin nominations

Go nominate and vote for new admins here. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 03:05, September 11, 2012 (UTC)


I hereby request that my articles that are listed on the QVFD for today be huffed ASAP as my genuine apology towards my actions made several years ago. Kevz64 (talk) 04:36, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Mr Pheonix is not as regularly here as he has been in the past. QVFD is cleared at least daily, however. An easier, and more effective, way to apologise is simply saying sorry, btw.                               Puppy's talk page04:50 16 Sep

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