User talk:ESTune

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edit Welcome!

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edit RöSS

Hello and welcome! The emerging article on your user page strikes me as somewhere between vanity and not of general interest. The page is well-written and well-built, and sufficiently good humor about a band (like the movie Spinal Tap) can be funny even to people who don't know the basis of the humor. However, writing funny references about yourselves, which will be funny only to yourselves, or chronicling a band in--where? Estonia?--won't survive here, whether or not the band actually exists (which we will never know). Keep this in mind, and happy editing!

By the way, if you press the Preview button, you can see how your edits will look and then continue editing, only pressing Save to write them to your user page when you have gotten to a good stopping point. Cheers! Spıke ¬ 12:36 31-Mar-13

PS--Be sure to log in before editing your own userspace, to avoid ambiguity. In this case it was pretty clear that it was you, but many Uncyclopedians would undo anonymous edits to protect your page. Spıke ¬ 14:52 31-Mar-13

edit Reply

Thanks for the commentary SPIKE. It's sometimes hard to use some english words, that I don't know. Heck, I'm having difficulties even forming estonian words sometimes. Writing this article or the user page is rather difficult, since the first (by now deceased?) band members told me their band biography like it was a fairytale. I was in the band for a week, so I don't know much about them (We split up after economic problems in 2007). I didn't know that the article was funny (although the morningstar thing is definately a hoax). Most of the things are true, like the bassist Radik didn't actually smile, after an accident with explosives in the Red Army.

Does the user page has to be also funny or not?

(Sigh!) Where to begin? Yes. The user page has to be funny. I have already deleted one "before breakfast" (as I am in the Eastern US) that was just a reference chart for a television show, but you are polite, whereas that owner ignored the warning of another Admin. The only humor on your user page, by your own description, is a hoax; and as we often say, "Untrue ≠ Funny." The user page is to let you introduce yourself to us, not to pursue hoaxes. Again, you could make this funny enough to survive in the main encyclopedia (for tips, read "How To Be Funny And Not Just Stupid" but even then it would have problems with notability.
But we thank you for pursuing your English, which is pretty fine. Have you looked at our article on Estonia to see whether you could improve it? Spıke ¬ 10:15 14-Apr-13
I'll try to iron them mistakes at my user page and thanks for the tips. I saw the article about Estonia alright and it's quite similiar of the way how Estonians think. Also had reedited the article of Geography of Estonia, to a more humbler "story". Think of that Estonian humour is something like British humour - dark humour, rough jokes and tragedy and not sure about what is American humour specifically. About notability, only need it enough just to survive... starting with an article which isn't sadly popular here, since there ain't an article of it. Someday I'll make an attempt on Conker's Bad Fur Day, which is a tremendous game.
Not used that the word I is spelled capitalized and adding so much of them. In Estonia, we don't capitalize and add them that much since estonian as a language is so complexed. 19:16, 16 aprill 2013 (E. Europe) «Krai» Värs
Perhaps the reason it is capitalized is to prevent overuse (that is, keep us from talking about ourselves too much--It doesn't always work!). American style of humor? We have four national sports, two leagues per sport, at one time we had more sports channels than Britain had channels, American cuisines in three digits, and "American humor" subdivides into many different genres.
Start your article at any time in userspace--click here at User:ESTune/Conker's Bad Fur Day--and take all the time you need without fear of it being deleted. Spıke ¬ 16:21 16-Apr-13
Thanks for the heads up about your country's humour and the userspace article and now I know why my last user-created article has "mysteriously" gone. I think that the TV set, when I used to live in Tallinn, had 20 American sport channels. If you like some good foreign jokes, I would recommend Russian jokes and our/theire animal folklore tales, which tend to be dark humored to a good laughter. Oh and one last thing at the moment: Is my article looking good at the moment? I think that I might have some lethal mistakes in it. 19:48, 20. Aprill 2013 (GMT) «Krai» Värs

edit Signature

If you want a fancier signature, read UN:SIG, and read my recent instructions at User talk:Denza252 (who couldn't be bothered to follow them). Don't specify small type without cancelling the specification so it doesn't apply to what I typed afterward; and don't use local time, because none of us know where E. Europe is! Spıke ¬ 16:25 16-Apr-13

Back in action! Followed the instructions, and I managed to mess something up with the placement of the signature. That's why I'm a technical sergeant, who is clueless. About the East Europe thing - I completely forgot that ».«

I broke the signature and it's source code and it will remain like that, since technical problems aren't my deal.

edit Euro as currency

With regrets, I undid your changes on this article with the long title. An article that has reached our main page (by vote of many Uncyclopedians) is assumed to be funny enough not to need help, and the help you offered was to take a litany (How to make a Euro sign on the keyboard) and make it slightly longer, which doesn't make it any funnier.

Likewise at Baseball, where you seem to have found an offbeat news story from Russia, which few people in the English-speaking world will have read, and stuck the information cryptically in the article, with a footnote that you are "not joking." If you want to do this up right, the best way to do it would be to write a "news release" for our UnNews department. In contrast to encyclopedia articles, which should not send the reader to other sites, UnNews stories require a Source section with which to relate the UnNews to NewsNews. Our current-events readership will be interested in your interpretation on why Mother Russia bought so much equipment to indulge in the American "national pastime."

Separately, if I could call your attention to the Preview button (right next to Save under your editing window), pressing it will show you how your changes will look and then let you keep editing. Save your changes to the encyclopedia only when you reach a logical stopping point. This will make your work show up as one rather than ten transactions at Special:RecentChanges and simplify our review of this report. Thanks! Spıke ¬ 17:31 17-Jul-13

I don't know if (or on the circumstance) when you read these replies, but here is my reply:
About the Euro thing. I won't deny my mistake there. A deceased schoolmate said once: "It's best to listen to the specialists of his field, if you don't want your head smashed by a whiskey bottle". I learned another lesson today.
The baseball boom about our common eastern/western neighbor: I rad that once in a local newspaper, but now I can't even remember which newspaper it was. Searching that source or even the print would prove actually more difficult, than searching a needle in a haystack. So that will probably be lost in time...
I've been using the preview button quite often, for example on an article Military_Tank. I might have been overused that button, since computer related things aren't my thing, like me screwing up my planned signature, regardless of following the instructions. It's probably best, if I'd stick to my own roots.--«Край» Värs 18:56, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

There is no such thing as overusing Preview--we can no more sense how many times you preview an edit than we can sense how many times you type something locally and then delete it before submitting at all. But I can see that you pressed Save for your user page 12 times in one recent hour, and that could have been optimized. Regarding baseball, you vindicate my action; if even you cannot recall your source, then it would certainly have been lost on the reader too.

The safe way to contact someone is on his own talk page, but it's likely that anyone will keep your talk page on his Watchlist for days after he writes to you, and it's better for any future research to keep the conversation in one place. Also, as an Admin, I am looking at all edits that occur on the wiki. Spıke ¬ 19:08 17-Jul-13

edit Hero

Hello, ESTune! Are you Russian? That will be cool because, surprisingly, me, too, I am. If this is the case we can talk in Russian. But I will say the following things in English so others will understand what I am talking about.

I am sorry but I reverted your edit of the article Hero. The reason is simple: I did not find the quote funny or essential and the subsection you added was not long and developed enough to catch well the reader's attention and to make him laugh. But if it gets any better, I will be glad to restore it. Happy editing! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 11:56, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I read your talk and saw that you were Estonian. But you seem to know Russia well. USSR? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 11:59, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
I'm neither Estonian, nor Russian (semi-Slavic would be ethnically the closest), but that was a good notice.. --«Край» 08:57, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, ok. But you do speak Russian, looking at your signature? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 10:46, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Beginner and trying to learn it.--«Край» 11:37, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, that's cool! Good luck! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 12:27, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

edit Junk categories

Thank you for categorizing some of the photos--it makes it easier for other authors to find them when looking for photos to fit a new article. However, adding junk categories such as [Category:Idiots], as you did to File:KhrushchevMad.JPG‎, does not help the author, nor the reader; it is mostly funny to you, and it is like sticking the sentence "I think this guy is an idiot!!!" into the text of the article. Spıke ¬ 16:52 23-Aug-13

I thought that someone would come up with that. The last seen user added that label, who probably considered his weak economical knowledge. As we know history, he truly wasn't 100% idiot, although his actions were peculiar (after the visit in the U.S. he started mass campaigns for corn-development which was without an exaggeration, an epic failure). If you haven't deleted it from that category, I will do it.--«Krzsztof» 09:57, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I share your low opinion of Khruschev (although the US's current drive to divert our corn production into motor fuel is having some disastrous unforeseen side-effects!). But the point of this website is neither your opinion nor mine, but humor (though it will surely be opinionated), and categories should be used to help readers find stuff, not to help readers find guys I think are idiots. There are a few explicitly ridiculous categories I have not been able to get rid of, but the general rule, as often stated by Uncyclopedian Mnbvcxz is, "Don't crack wise with the navigation tools." Spıke ¬ 11:56 26-Aug-13

edit User deletion (uploads, pictures and any edits or contributions - if possible)

This is purely optional (preferrably mandatory):
As for the title says above, could anyone do that - if it weights this place down? The first user left, since he's too greedy to buy a new computer. And to me; this user might aswell be that new outhouse for our company, which nobody actually uses. "Do we have an excessive barrack or did we forgot to build an extra latrine?" said once our lieutenant.

  • Main reason: You'd laugh, if I'd tell you from which year my own computer was complected (low RAM) and what an accountant my battalion's staff is with the payments to it's sappers. Also, time is of the essence.
  • Second reason: Humour is opinionated, as stated in the subject above, which makes it очень difficult to make a joke suitable for everyone. For example, the Estonian talk page has many thoughts that other people can't understand those jokes.
  • If the first user will ever manage to buy a new computer, he probably won't return to this site. My own contributions won't occur, since I don't have much time to spare.

Estonia in the soviet and EU era: We were rich, but the stores were empty. Now we're poor, but the stores are filled.
I think that sums it up.
--«Krzsztof» 06:22, 08.28.2013 (UTC)

No, we do not have anyone here that does "user deletion". User accounts are never deleted, though a change of username can be requested from wikia staff. User contributions are changed and edited by editors that came along after the first editor, so deleting user contributions would be impractical. This is why content submitted is licensed on a CC-by-SA basis. As it says when you edit pages, "You agree to license submissions under CC-BY-NC-SA 2.0. Pictures if unused, can be submitted to QVFD. If they are used in articles however, they cannot simply be deleted. Hope this answers your question! -- Simsilikesims(♀UN) Talk here. 07:53, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
Fine by me about the user deletion - it might aswell be here. Yet, I think that some of those pictures violate some rules (copyrights, etc.). Can those pictures be permanently/instantly deleted what ESTune has submitted, in QVFD: Is it allowed to delete 14 unused pictures in one? Thanks in advance! --«Krzsztof» 07:17, 08.28.2013 (UTC)
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