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Thanks for adding the alphabet template to my F9 page. I had forgotten how to do that. - User:LSK

Thanks for helping me on Koopa Troopa and The Final Countdown still trying to learn the markup codes for the site :) --Dave

All that work to change "World Domination" to "World domination"? You've gotta be kidding me! I'm pretty sure it is standard to use capital letters for all major words in a title, so it really should be capitalized. But whatever. --Ahmed the Jewess 23:14, 5 May 2005 (EDT)

Thanks for your recent cat' and spelling work on my entries. I wish I could spell better than I do, but I blame the Government. --IMBJR 11:22, 9 May 2005 (EDT)

I do not know what I would do without you, Carlb. I leeve awful speeling behind me like a snail's trail, and you come along and wipe it all up. It's like having my own, personal maid. Truly, I appreciate your tireless effort to make Uncyclopedia better than I leave it. Since I'm so apprecitative of your efforts, I will give you this gifte: A night off from cleaning up my messes. Enjoy it! --Famine 16:28, 10 May 2005 (EDT)

Thanks for categorizing my entry for me. I was just about to do so, and you beat me to the chase. :) --Portz 21:25, 11 May 2005 (EDT)

Thanks for the info on the "in russia" joke. --Paulgb Talk 14:12, 13 May 2005 (EDT)

Leave the Kneewheels alone. Lt Col. Kneewheels is an inside joke which is not only tolerated by the flamewar guidelines, but incouraged. So what if its a cruft page. WHO CARES?!? because you sure shouldn't ~SpareRibs

You appear to be working on articles in alphabetical order today... --Goomball 04:07, 18 May 2005 (EDT)

Carl, man, you are unstoppable. Would you be interested in being an administrator? Check the Community Portal (under "QuickVFD") if ye are. --Rcmurphy 12:48, 18 May 2005 (EDT)

Thanks for the compliment on the "Vader on a Segway" pic. I make these things many times without really knowing what I'm going to do with them! And thanks for all the good you do here in the "cleaning up other people's messes" department. Keep the faith! --RadicalX 22:23, 18 May 2005 (EDT)

Carlb, you are incredible. Do you ever sleep? --Repairman Jack 10:48, 24 May 2005 (EDT)

I just about squirted water out my nose when I saw the banner on your user page. Very, very nice. (note to self, steal that...) --Famine 17:03, 24 May 2005 (EDT)

Hey, just a note... I don't think Baddek Plytechnic University was teh same as Graham Bell earlier tonight. I think Someone may have changed it. Because looking at Bell now, it's not what I remember reading on Polytechnic earlier... Except I can't read the history for some reason. --PantsMacKenzie 00:57, 29 May 2005 (EDT)

Re: redirected links such as "Banks", "Fraternities", "Enemies", etc.: Just to let you know that my intent was (hopefully) to cut down on calls for submits to pluralized titles (which tend to be crappy), especially in the cases where we already have (or will probably soon have) decent submits for the singulars. Is this OK?, or should I desist? --DWIII 15:23, 31 May 2005 (EDT)

'k, CarlB (see User talk:DWIII). --DWIII 16:12, 31 May 2005 (EDT)

Okay, exactly is going on with Jack Cain? Is he just a useless one-trick pony or what? I blocked him for just a day because I don't really know what's happening. He frightens me. --Rcmurphy 04:33, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for smartening up Clavdivs CB. The boy's very dear to me. --Commander Jameson 08:19, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Carlb, could you please delete "Undictionary:Go Fuck Yourself" for me. I have moved the article. Donkeykong 16:33, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for adding on to the Elements part of The Signs of the Zodiac. Any ideas for improving the Planets section? --Aswdodge

More stub flags, less deletes please. Especially on the potentially theoretically amusing stubs, i.e. Narnia, etc. Well.. slightly less. By all means, delete crap like crazy, just slightly more mercy if it could potentially grow.--Chronarion 03:03, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Many thanks. --Aswdodge

Wow, you know the GNAA are a bunch of idiots when even a spell checking bot knows they're idiots. Anyway, what part of the UK is your bot from? 20:23, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Are you an administrator? If not, would you like to be one? User:Freibe 12:00, Jun 16, 2005

Check here for the current list of admins:

Sorry, I did not see that list. User:Freibe


How may I improve on this article, Carl? --Cowation 21:43, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, I didn't expect you to actually rewrite it. Thank you, however, --Cowation 01:55, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And on that note, you did show me why that article needed a rewrite!

Thanks for adding the category links to the Pac-Man page! --Goldbug 17:57, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Alcholic Communists

U tryin' to eliminate this category?--ByzantoMan 14:31, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)

☃ Headers ☃

Why did you put question marks on all the headers of the Canada article?

  • They're not question marks... most likely you don't have Unicode capability so your browser is displaying ?'s instead of the characters? --Carlb 04:08, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the category fix on Jeff Goldblum :) ---Hooloovoo 12:35, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

re: Template:Randomstub

I'm not sure why <tr> tags aren't working inside the <option> tags (it's possible that the parser renders HTML before rendering extension content, but I'll have to test this hypothesis further), but you can still use the pipe syntax without any problems. --Algorithm 03:42, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Just tested tables on my own wiki, and they're working fine without any changes to my code. Were the <tr> and <td> tags on their own inside the <option>s, or did you also have the <table> in there? If you didn't, then the failure of the <tr> and <td> tags is expected behavior. --Algorithm 04:17, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)
The <option>s were inside the table, as the initial text "This is a (whatever)-related..." stub was constant and the rest of the text pseudorandom. I just tried switching this so that the <table>s are entirely contained within the <option>s, instead of the other way around. The table codes worked in that configuration, but the {{{1}}} parameter was no longer being properly replaced as soon as it was within the <option> section. I've had to revert the template. Drats. --Carlb 05:41, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, that's also to be expected. The content of the selected option is rendered independently by the parser, and wouldn't have access to circumstantial variables. --Algorithm 08:43, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)


Cheers for adding the article (and fixing the redirect in the template, I didn't even realise that it was only a redirect, my bad) but I though that there might be ONE user who was on both that could write something, I'm slightly surprised there hasn't been any cross polination as yet!. Also I've removed Gv:, Ow: and Ch: from the Template:Languages as they are works in progess to be relesed on set anniversaries. Cheers --Elvis 21:27, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I'd only added Gv:, Ow: and Ch: as Uncyclopedia:List of Uncyclopedias already lists them as active languages (so I presumed they were live). Oops! --Carlb 21:32, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Thats my fault, I added them there so that people would find them as a pleasant surprise (I should probably remove them) but front paging them makes it a bit to easy, again my fault. --Elvis 21:39, 30 Jul 2005 (UTC)

WARNING! Classy and a half. Pr0pz, y0. W0rd. D0wg. Tac0.--Flammable 06:05, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

People are fucking around with penetrator (forgive the.. something... joke... thing.. maybe?) Could you look into that for me? I'm not sure what the fuck is going on. --Flammable CUN 05:18, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thx for deleting the saxarticle. I was tempted to blank it, out of shame, but I know that's a no no. --Marcos Malo 00:00, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Undictionary:Algore-ithm - why did you revert my edits?

Congratulations on winning Uncyclopedia:Writer of the Month, but I was wondering why you reverted my edits on the Undictionary:Algore-ithm page (diff here). If you need me to change the format to conform to the undictionary page, I can do that it's not that hard. BTW, despite what I said at the village dump, I don't mind too that you deleted the Hyad and JWSchmidt templates. But come on without Template:End of the Internet) (and it's redirect Template:Template), how are we supposed to know where the end of the internet is? Atleast you keeped [[Template:wtf]] - for random humor - besides, the World Trade Federation needs a template. -Hyad 08:00, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The only problem with the changes to Undictionary:Algore-ithm are, as you mention, format. An individual entry in a dictionary isn't divided into chapters and sections. A definition should be formatted as one or two paragraphs with no internal section headers, extra categories or templates (the name of the word being defined is the section header, and this much is already inserted automatically). Yes, this should be minor to fix.
As for the templates, many have been combined into a smaller number of templates (for instance, {{stub}} has been recoded to randomly display "you have reached the end of the Internet" one time in a hundred, and many other "this is a stub" or "this is a disambiguation page" entries have been combined using a random option/choose algorithm. See also Masters of the Internet as I suspect the end of the Internet is there.
Templates used once (on one page) have mostly been moved onto that page, unless they're generic enough to be likely candidates for re-use (for instance, the sci-fi article stub template {{yoda}}) or they're part of the main page and its variants.
There have been various discussions on vfd about combining various templates, and a list of templates in use has been created at Uncyclopedia:Templates (no, I don't know wtf to make of {{wtf}} or, for that matter, {{uk}}). You might want to add your two cents worth there? --Carlb 09:47, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Yup. -Hyad 01:20, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Stubs... again

Why have you removed "sub-sub-sub-sub-stub" out of Template:Randomstub? I kind of liked it. :( - Guest 13:53, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

A "This {{{1}}}-related article is a sub-sub-sub-sub-stub, making it such a stub that it disrupts the space-time continuum and needs to be wrenched from the dark side. Feel free to help with the wrenching." is back... the template is editable by anyone should you care to add more. :) --Carlb 00:49, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Golden Dancing Hoof

Like the wind of the north seas, your skills at removing articles I have made is to be set upon with much academic vigor, by those younger then you. To you a statue we build, or a least a golden dancing hoof I erect to you. Via con dias! --47 Monkeys 13:30, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

J'édite en même temps que toi!

Comment faire pour que ça se déroule sans accroc? J'ai essayé d'y aller par sections mais ça a encore été compliqué...--Sunsneezer 19:32, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Je crois qu'en cas de conflit, ça affiche une comparison des deux mais la consolidation des changements doit se faire manuellement? Enteka, j'ai fini avec mes corrections (que des fautes!) alors vas-y! --Carlb 19:48, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Si you guys parle francais comme me. (jk) Then perhaps you may aime Désencyclopédie, un outre wikipedia parody in francais. Il est of no use a moi as je ne peut pas contribuer avec un niveau élémentaire de french speaking. See ici. -Hyad 01:20, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Any particular reason you whacked my comment here? --Famine 13:55, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

My changes were a section edit to some other section (re: special:unusedimages) so this shouldn't have happened... wtf? --Carlb 19:48, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I sorta-guessed that that was the case. I'm still curious what happened. God damn communists, probably. --Famine 23:39, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Damn you

Not only did you win Writer of the Month, but you also won the popularity contest. What are you a robot or something? According to "the contest" you have made 11505 edits as of August 11th, that's about 8 times as many edits as User:EvilZak, the next highest user. Do you have some bot (besides Hymie) making changes in your name? I'd watch out for User:Marcos Malo though, he has made 288 edits in 4 days! -Hyad, #49, 01:13, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Buhhhhnanator. Iht's naaaht aahh tuumah.

Rfc Madness other there

I'm gonna have to take a break from this madness because if I have to read anymore of squekbox's nonsense I think my brains may leak out of my ears, if you need me for anything give me a shout. --Sir Elvis KUN FIC Bur. | Petition 00:27, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)


Hola. I had some Q's about Undictionary and Elvis mentioned you should be queried (not RFCed, heh). Please see: this thingy here. --Splaka Bur. SG CM © 23:14, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

<ONX> thanks for adding to my user page, i quite like it. i just got back from being grounded and having a giant spyware infection. ill be here on and off for a while.... yeah.. thanks. and lol, it gave me a JFK quote... XD

Thanks for stubbing my Anal Birth. I should have done that myself, but I was too busy laughing about my own jokes. Story of my life, I tell you. -Bringa 12:59, 18 Oct 2005 (UTC)


Um, you're my hero. --—rc (t) 16:48, 26 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Wow. That's... wow. You're *so* in reciept of the Mega Deletion award, and ... just wow -- Sir Codeine K·H·P·B·M·N·C·U·Bu. · (Harangue) 18:52, 27 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Jesus Land

Jesus Land and Jesusland are listed in List of countries under U for United States entries. --Ogopogo 02:16, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)

  • Drats, thought I'd checked to see if they already existed but must've missed 'em. Oh well... --Carlb 02:18, 6 Nov 2005 (UTC)

New language levels

I see you fixing the categories for the new levels ("a good thing"). One of the punishments for a user (Zak, Clorox) making such though is that they have to add it to all 20+ existing language category pages. So, don't be too helpful ^_^. Cheers! --Splaka 03:28, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)


The problem with Template:langlevels (I had debated making one myself) is that the category page is the only page that can be customized per individual language. On en.wp each language gets 5 templates to play with, here they only get one template (one or two words) and one category. If the category pages are made static, there is no variation. Also, the previous method *highly* discourgaged addition of new levels ("Its a good thing"), as adding new levels gets confusing. If people want custom levels, they can copy/paste the code manually... IMHO ^_^. Thoughts? --Splaka 23:25, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)

template:langlevels is useful for languages which re-use the same descriptions (English, Asshat, Simple English, and the like) and completely useless for categories which are actual non-English languages (Français, Deutsch, Español, français-canadien/joual). Only a default for where we don't have an existing customisation or translation of the text. I don't intend to use it everywhere. Pas de tout. --Carlb 23:30, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Ok, mon mauvais for making assumptions! That is a good thing then. It woulda been gooder if Dawg and myself had asked for a poll on the levels that should be added before a zillion languages were, but, 20/20 hindsight eh. Hmm, I am gonna add a section about making custom templates, I think. Cheers. --Splaka 23:34, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Looks like it means having to add any new levels sixteen times instead of twenty-six to get to all of the category pages. Deutsch, Español, Français and their variants all require full translation of level names, many others contain customisations. Still no small task. --Carlb 00:10, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Speaking of, that list would have to be updated everytime a new language is created (making new languages a 4 step process). I'm going to fix the wording a bit to just be two links to lists. Anyone smart enough to add a new level should be able to figure it out... maybe. --Splaka 02:33, 18 Nov 2005 (UTC)

fudged fixed up undic a bit

I modified Template:Dictionary to add a new page: Undictionary:* which contains all the non-start-with-standard-letters words (numbers, symbols, foreign words, etc) and moved such from Undictionary:A, and changed occurances of such (that I could find, only two though) pointing to A, to point to *. I chose asterisk as a wildcard (? is a bit ambiguous and people might thing their font isn't showing a unicode character, and # is ambiguous as a url anchor). So one can use {{undictionary|*}} on a page for $$$ if it ever gets created. I think... ? --Splaka 02:30, 18 Nov 2005 (UTC)

I've been deleting all the unused Undictionary: namespace entries (or in some cases, making them unused). Oh, and is the new favicon.ico ok? I used RC's tater and your design to color it up a bit, no one has bitched at me about it yet. *shrug*. You should come to IRC sometime or something. Have a gab. Etc. --Splaka 11:04, 21 Nov 2005 (UTC)


Hope you don't mind, I've been going along behind you and replacing border=1 with {{card/style}} (to make it easier to change the style of all the cards at once, if needed). It can contain cellpadding, cellspacing, border, as well as the style= tag of course. Cheers --Splaka 23:56, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Oops, didn't notice you'd built a list. I think sub-templates of templates can go on the template talk pages (maybe in tl form though). eg: Template_talk:Card and Template_talk:Die (also, I meta and wiki-fied die) --Splaka 05:20, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Bugging you again. Ahhhhh I hate that [new messages] thing (You should come to irc, hint hint). Would it be worth splitting the die into Template:Die/1 - Template:Die/6 to make it same as cards (and then fixing up the craps game to use them)? Since you seem to like answering with action rather than words, you can do it or not, no need to reply ^_^.


Hi, I'm pretty new here and I wanted to ask you what do you say about my articles. I saw you also fucked with Britney (Britanica).... Kakun 18:14, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)

OMGz Timeline

I award you this award: {{Ninjastar|Ninjastar.png|Original Ninjastar|I award carlb a Ninjastar for contributing a whole bunch to the timeline.|gwax}} --Sir gwax (talk) Signuke 21:57, 4 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Incidentally, did you use some sort of automated method to move all those bits and pieces into the timeline? If so, could you tell me how you did it? --Sir gwax (talk) Signuke 22:09, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)

I'd used pywikibot just to bulk-create the redirects. To include the bits and pieces into the timeline, all you need is to cut&paste something like this into the timeline article:

== 1900 ==

== 1901 ==

== 1902 ==
{{subst::1902}} ...

A program to spit that out (if you'd even need one) would be trivial. Once that's done, then the individual pages may be redirected. --Carlb 04:18, 12 Dec 2005 (UTC)


Wow, good job on getting every last zork page formattied! Whoever made this bot knows what he's doing. THink you could get Game Online formatted too? --[[User:Nintendorulez|Nintendorulez | talk]] 23:16, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)

If you want to do something that would reformat some large number of pages, it may be a good idea to raise the question in Uncyclopedia:Village Dump first? --Carlb 04:22, 12 Dec 2005 (UTC)


Newcookie Todd Lyons has awarded you a cookie!
Now go play in traffic.

Awarded 12/16/05 ~ For your pioneer contributions to Uncyclopedia:Folding@home.

In the News

That 50 Cent blurb you just put up is the funniest, not to mention cleverest, news entry I've ever read up there. Well played. -DrAwesome 03:52, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Ici aussi

Bon je te trouve ici aussi, heuh, alors si c'est le même admin pourquoi on aurait une fr: et une Désencyclopédie? Fool 15:30, 4 Jan 2006 (UTC)

On avait établi fr: avant qu'il y aie un désencyclopédie, alors le désencyclopédie effectivement le remplace. --Carlb 03:34, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Low Pressure System

Great addition to the Hurricane Rita page - that picture cracked me up  ;) I imagine a couple people will get offended because it's sourced on 9/11, but I thought it was great. -- Rei 17:53, 8 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it's a takeoff on high pressure system.jpg and sourced from both 9/11 and Katrina, so they should be doubly offended. ;) --Carlb 17:56, 8 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Re: Template categorization

I've been considering your bot suggestion, and I think now it's the right way to go. At your convenience, could you have Hymie go through and flag any template that does not contain <noinclude> with the following?


The extra {{PAGENAME}} is to ensure they're not all clustered under T.

Thanks. --Algorithm (talk) 09:09, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Looks like many of the ones with <noinclude> are listed in Uncyclopedia:Templates, the list of awards, the Babel project or other template lists. Nonetheless, flagging anything without the noinclude tag does put them into "uncategorised templates", not into a more appropriate category based on the existing lists. I've left them in uncategorised templates for now; if this wasn't what you had intended, please let me know. --Carlb 08:38, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Your new sig!

Well, you've won another honour, so, should you decide to update your sig in accordance with Order of Uncyclopedia, it'd look something like this:

Sir Carlb KUN NS WoTM UotM VFH MDA Bur. CM +S (Talk)

Obviously you'd change the formatting to make your sig fancier, and you might not change it at all. --officer designate Club symbol Lugiatm Club symbol MUN NS CM ZM WH 21:27, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Deletion: Orkut


I saw you deleted my Orkut article; in the deletion log you say it only forwarded to pt:orkut, but that's not how I remember it. I had written a pretty long article, translated it into horrible portuguese with the help of Babelfish; at the bottom was a link to automatically translate it back into even more horrible English. I thought it was a pretty funny article and I'd put quite a bit of work into it. Can you look at the history of deleted articles somehow?

PS: Oh, I found it:

This categorization destroys the joke ;) The point is to have an article in Portuguese in the ENGLISH section of uncyclopedia. I will let the so-called experts explain:

Also, the categorization breaks the Babelfish link, which could be fixed of course, but I'd find it a lot funnier if the article stayed as just /wiki/Orkut. Is that possible?

--Bringa 03:22, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Nothing has been deleted except the redirect created when the page was moved. An undelete revealed nothing else of interest. If you want to include the Portuguese text into Orkut, using the tag {{Babel:Pt/Orkut}} in the English page should insert the entire text, much like a template. You may also want to use {{Wikipedia}} or {{Wikipediapar}} to insert a link to the so-called experts if you want one there. --Carlb 06:02, 27 January 2006 (UTC)


I would like to point out that you Catagorized Zombieminion as an Uncatagorized Template, where as it was already Catagorized as an award...--Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 16:57, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

The category which was missing was <noinclude>[[Category:Award_templates]]</noinclude> from the template categorisation project. I've added it and removed the "uncategorised" tag which indicated its absence. --Carlb 05:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks --Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 15:19, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


I see you changed up UnNews to work more like WikiNews. One problem, though: you are setting the year/month category in Template:UnNews dynamically and that means that every time any edit is performed on a page - even a vandalism revert - the page gets moved to the top of the list. Right now, for instance, the top story under January is one written last September. I would suggest either going back to the old system or having people add a date stamp the same way that WikiNews does. If your choice is the second, I would be happy to impliment it. --- Quill Rev. Isra (talk) 22:28, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I've looked into this and have created {{news|07/2014}} as a variant of the {{UnNews}} template, but with the mm/yyyy date as a parameter. I've also looked into including subst: in templates to cause the {{subst:CURRENTMONTH}} to come up automagically - this latter may be more difficult (but not impossible) as any attempt to edit the template online replaces subst: with the contents of the variable. Tested at :) --Carlb 03:06, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Mr. Roboto Edit

Is there any reason to the bunch of deletion of the Mr. Roboto categories? I mean, I'd understand if you'd only deleted one or two, but a whole bunch of 'em was wiped off the face of the internet by yours you-ly. I'm not mad at you or anything, I'm just trying to understand; I'm new, see, with the learning and the comprehension not yet but will. --KChasm 05:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

In some cases, there were articles in a category but the category itself did not exist (these appear as red links. With most of these, I tried to clean up by sticking with categories which already exist where possible, on the assumption that the links to non-existent categories were created by mistake (and there were many, not sure if Category:Mr. Roboto was one). Not a statement as to whether a category should/should not exist in this case. --Carlb 13:19, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Michael Moore/Fat People

Can I PLEEEASE put Michael Moore back in the Fat People Category before the category gets deleted for having too few articles?--Naughtyned 19:39, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

If you like, yes. I had only cut back the list of categories as many of them were redlinks. --Carlb 19:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
OK, Thanks.--Naughtyned 19:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)


Forgive my ignorance here, but I'm trying to figure out the UnNews template. By using [[Category:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}|{{PAGENAME}}]], won't the stories keep getting carried forward to the current month as the month changes? Should we be integrating the manual system from Template:News to Template:UnNews. And whatever is going on, Nonymous should be advised on his talk page before he undoes anything else. T. (talk) 15:57, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Categories in templates don't get updated in the category itself unless someone actually edits the article, due to a MediaWiki limitation. Unfortunately, using this as a cute trick to get a timestamp on an article means that it's categorised to the month/year of last edit, not the month/year of creation.
The "start a new article" inputbox on the UnNews main page gets around this by using {{News}} instead of {{UnNews}}, but not manually at all - the {{news|{{subst:CURRENTMONTH}}/{{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}}}
{{date|{{subst:CURRENTDAY}} {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}}} codes are contained in the template for the blank new article and therefore substitute the date of article creation in-line as soon as the new article is saved.
Note that putting subst: within the new article template is a trick which is reserved to admins, as the "Import from XML" specialpage must be used to upload the template body. Editting that template normally would destroy it by actually making the date substitutions.
Perhaps it would make sense to have a 'bot go through the list of September, October, November... UnNews and stamp them all with {{News|whatever month/year}} so that they don't get recategorised if editted. The current system is a kludge, it relies on many MediaWiki ideosynchronacies to work at all and leaves much to be desired. The default is to stamp new entries with {{News}} and {{Date}}, not {{UnNews}}, but that still does leave the question of what to do with the old {{UnNews}}. --Carlb 18:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I've attempted to clean up this mess and have dropped a note on User talk:Nonymous. Hopefully no further edits to the templates themselves will be needed. --Carlb 18:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for straightening this out, Carl.  :) T. (talk) 18:58, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Double redirects

Arg. So I was about halfway through fixing the double redirect when suddenly all of the ones I had fixed showed up again. I see you moved the page back, so now there are a bunch of broken redirects from that. Please respond to this quickly so I know what to do. --- Quill Rev. Isra (talk) 23:33, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Looks like someone has been moving the date pages. I am unimpressed... as all of the individual years redirect here, this creates thousands of double redirects. I've been trying to undo the moves as damage control, basically returning the whole mess however it was before User:AMK152's page moves created this mess. --Carlb 23:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Well. If we are undoing those redirects (last night when I talked with splarka he was thinking of keeping of them) then we need to revert my last 250 or so edits. --- Quill Rev. Isra (talk) 23:38, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

To keep them, we would have to edit every individual year page, as they all redirect to these. 2000 of 'em! Not impossible, but it might be a good idea to think this through or even raise the issue in Uncyclopedia:Village Dump before doing something like this. --Carlb 23:40, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
2000 is quite feasible. I can do it in 2 hours. And was. --- Quill Rev. Isra (talk) 23:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, since 1000-1699 is half done, I am going to finish it. I will be on IRC if you want to discuss the rest. --- Quill Rev. Isra (talk) 23:47, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
If you're willing to clean up the double redirects this causes, fine. Whomever originally created this mess chose not to do so. --Carlb 23:48, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind. looks like you reverted my edits en masse. --- Quill Rev. Isra (talk) 23:48, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Oh, wait, I see what you did. Yeah. I will finish up 1000-1699


Special:Wantedpages isn't very helpful anymore, what with all the pointless links. Keitei said I should mention this to you, and so I am. Hi.—Mandaliet 10:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


Were you planning on doing something with Traduko? --- Quill Rev. Isra (talk) 02:39, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Why bother? Truth is stranger than fiction - and the ironically error-filled translation of an ad for a translation service is real. I didn't have to make up a word of it. --Carlb 02:44, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, it seems a bit unlike an encyclopedia article. And it clutters Special:Deadends. I guess I will just add a white link or something. --- Quill Rev. Isra (talk) 02:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
I added a PS. All your base are belong to us (old cliché, I know, but that should knock it off the dead end list). --Carlb 02:53, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
It's actually a good addition there (for once :) ). Thanks. --- Quill Rev. Isra (talk) 02:54, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


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For pointing out the Wikipedia search toolbar. - Sir Sikon [formerly known as Guest] 15:20, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


Carlb: "I shall deal with this when I get around to it."

Very funny... I'll award you a cookie or something for that tomorrow. Bloopy icon Bloopy 06:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Worst 100 April Fools

Cheers for adding to it... you know, I'm still pretty much dry of ideas, still, loved the Iraq one. Cheers --Olipro (Harass) 16:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


That was his edit, as a matter of fact... Told us on the cabal an' all. ;) Good of you to notice, though. :D --⇔ Sir Mon€¥$ignSTFU F@H|CUNT|+S 15:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Oops... I had looked at the edit (IP which pretty much blanked the page except for one line), looked at the history (page had previously been vandalised and reverted) and suspected that the edit was more likely to be page blanking than useful. Most edits that replace an entire page with one line are suspect. --Carlb 15:55, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I understood your confusion. That's why I didn't ban your ass. ;) Have a good one! --⇔ Sir Mon€¥$ignSTFU F@H|CUNT|+S 09:09, 6 April 2006 (PDT)


Hi. I have start adding interwikis beetween Uncyclopedia and Nonsensopedia. Could you tell me I'm not doing any wrong? It's not harm? Big sorry for my engilsh. Szoferka 15:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, they appear to be correct. Glad to see that the interwiki links are now working in both directions. --Carlb 15:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of which, do you think this could be implemented in uncyclopedia? It's all in advanced chinese for me, but I thought you may be able to make sense from it.--Rataube 16:08, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Here you go: User:Hymie the SpelChek™ bot/ You do need a working pywikipediabot in order to use this... --Carlb 12:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks!!--Rataube 22:24, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

We need to talk

Keitei and I are trying to set up a bot to move pages at the new Chinese uncyclopedia. She has no idea what to do, and I haven't even tried. Any help or assistance would be greatly appreciated. Don't feel too obligated though.. you seem ind of busy.

(P.S. We're on IRC.)

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I don't know if you've read the history of the discussion behind the SRV template in the context of the deletion changes, but it's sort of interesting. See and .

Tension betwen deletionists and (dunno what to call me (us, maybe, since you seem to agree with it) is a part of any wiki, and tempers can often get out of control. I try to keep the discussion rational and focused on making uncyclopedia better. Thanks for letting me know about your post, and perhaps even if the policy isn't changed we can try to encourage more people to at least identify a reason when they NRV someone's idea. "Seven day stay of execution/electrocution/death by a thousand cuts then dipping into the lemon juice/etc" doesn't exactly send a message that NRVers are interested in helping the person who had the idea in making their article better, and may be driving new users away from the site, which I don't think is in uncyclopedia's best interest. If we want new ideas, instead of a million kitten huffing/oscar wilde/chuck norris pages, we need new users, and if new users get turned off by the NRV policy, and the way it's used by people who place NRVs, then we won't be able to accomplish that. Like I said in the forum, NRV should encourage creativity as well as serve as a way to delete items that won't go anywhere useful for the site.

--RudolfRadna 17:29, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[[1]] Like you've noticed, isra is very against modifying the current use of NRV so I think we'd be better off focusing on trying to encourage people who use NRV to use it differently rather than to change site policy. I do think he's missing the point of this driving away new users, which uncyc needs, but that's just my opinion. I wouldn't worry too much about it. The last thing I want to do is get personally emotionally involved in some debate over a template on uncyc. Honestly, it's just not worth that extreme to me. I do think that if we drive people away with the deletion policy being offensive that will in the long term be a bad thing for the site, rather than a good thing.

By the way, the reason I'm putting this here instead of in the forum is because I don't think it will do any good there, honestly, and the last thing I want to do is get into another pointless conflict with admins about site policy that accomplishes nothing except eating up server space.

--RudolfRadna 14:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I've thought it over and I think the debate comes down to this: Isra and others who don't want to change NRV want to keep the current system because it's simpler and easier to use, it's what they're used to and from their perspective it works at deleting "crap." However, in my opinion, they don't see the cost of the material you're losing because of n00bs who are intimidated by the policy who are driven away from the site. They don't think this is an issue. Personally, I think if we want new ideas and new creativity, it's worth making some sort of a change just to improve the atmosphere so it's less intimidating for new users, but since I already went over this a few weeks ago and the idea went down in flames, I don't want to revisit it because like I said, I think it would be pointless and just lead to destructive personality conflicts. I'm just explaining my position here since you took an interest in this subject, and because I was also interested in your opinion on the impact of the current NRV policy on the "environment" for n00bs here, in terms of intimidation/etc.

Another odd thing I noticed is that by default, the way NRV works means it's easier for a n00b to make a contribution by adding material to an existing page, or changing material on that page, than it is to create a wholly new article. Maybe one approach would be to encourage new users to work on modifying an existing page rather than creating a wholly new one, to get familiar with uncyc. At least with an established page, they could work on it without having to deal with being attacked by the NRV monster. There could be a page of advice for n00bs, explaining all of this, and recommending starting by editing a page instead of jumping into the deletion war and creating something new that will nearly inevitably be NRV'd by someone, given their lack of experience/not understanding yet what uncyc is about . . .

--RudolfRadna 14:32, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Have you looked at wikipedia:template:prod? It's (sort of) the equivalent to NRV here, a "proposal for deletion" tag placed on an article - if it's placed and remains undisputed, the article may be deleted. That's where the similarity ends, though - remove the tag and it does not get put on again. Still want to delete it? Take it to regular VFD (AfD, articles for deletion) for a vote. That way, undisputed items aren't finding their way into the voting process (where, with hundreds of useless one-liners a week, they'd quickly become unmanageable) but the "don't bite the n00bs" principle is better-respected. Save the bans (or threats of bans) for those deliberately vandalising (blanking pages, deleting entire articles one section at a time, or unleashing spambots to bury us under hundred of useless external links).

Perhaps some of what's being deleted (one-line fragments posted as separate articles) could be merged into other articles on related topics, or dumped in the undictionary. Then again, using Undictionary as a dumping ground for fragments could well be what has turned it into the pile of rubbish it is now. --Carlb 14:49, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

This is obviously a complex issues with competing, perhaps contradictory, goals. It's a balancing act between encouraging creativity, and being able to get rid of "garbage" or "crap." I like what you wrote on the [[2]] forum, and am glad that an admin thinks, as I do, that maybe we need to be a little more n00b friendly. Of course, you understand that because of the history ( and I am hesistant to discuss this issue in the forums again. My opinion doesn't have much weight, perhaps yours will.

I think using the wikipedia equivalent to NRV is an interesting idea, and should be explored. I'm mainly concerned that NRV can be, either purposefully or unpurposefully, misused, and that it should be able to serve its purpose of encouraging quality material on the site. I don't think the current system does that, and I'm open to any position that makes the tag itself more n00b sensitive, even if no procedures change. I'd be saying this in the forum if I thought it would do any good, but I honestly think it's better for me to sit this one out for now since I already said my piece and I don't want this to turn into a fight between me and Isra. I respect his right to disagree with me, but I don't think a battle is what we need to resolve this issue. I'd be willing to discuss this with him/her, but he/she doesn't seem willing to budge a nanometer, and doesn't even seem to consider the impact of the template on n00bs to even be a concern, so I don't see the point of a discussion with him/her right now. I honestly doubt it can contribute anything to uncyc, so that's why I'm refraining.

Thanks again for caring about this, it's not about n00bs so much as making uncyc better, and let me know if there's anything I can do to help, aside from going 10 rounds with Isra again . . .

--RudolfRadna 15:59, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

"Many of these concerns are addressed in UN:NRV to which the template links. For several attempts to make the template less harsh, see it's history. For the reason why these didn't stay around, see Algo. He has some very strong opinions on the wording. ---Ven. Isra +s cun vfh vfp (commune) 01:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)"

Nothing surprising here. Because we all know the earth will split open and fires, plague, and republicans will consume us all if NRV is changed. Not that I really mind the template being what it is now. But I don't buy the "horrible things will happen if we change this" position. And I don't buy the idea that the concerns about n00bs being turned off to uncyc are being dealt with just because there's an improved page concerning the template now. That's a great step, but I don't see what's wrong with discouraging people from putting comments like "stay of execution" on people's pages. That isn't even part of the template. It's how people are using the template, and I think it's abusive, and I think it should stop.

Maybe we could have a trial of the new NRV language? If it doesn't work we can switch it back? What do you think? In any case, it's unclear that any of this will go anywhere, since I don't think Isra will allow it.

--RudolfRadna 02:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Recentchanges interwiki

Hey, can you add this text [[ca:Especial:Recentchanges]] [[de:Spezial:Recentchanges]] [[el:Ειδικό:Recentchanges]] [[en:Special:Recentchanges]] [[es:Especial:Recentchanges]] [[fi:Toiminnot:Recentchanges]] [[fr:Special:Recentchanges]] [[he:מיוחד:Recentchanges]] [[it:Speciale:Recentchanges]] [[la:Specialis:Recentchanges]] [[pl:Specjalna:Recentchanges]] [[ru:Служебная:Recentchanges]] to this file on Uncyclopedia and this on Desencyclopedia? We got it now. Thanks. :) Szoferka 16:27, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Forum:Deletion policy, again

I thought you'd be interested in this discussion. It involves a just created stub that got summarily deleted while I was trying to work on it. No deletion procedure at all, just gone.

--RudolfRadna 21:57, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I wrote a n00b editing how-to [[3]]. What do you think? Any ideas how to make it better?

--RudolfRadna 23:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Numbers bot

Hi, could you operate the numbers bot on eincyclopedia please? Just link all the numbers to here. Thanks anyway. --Kakun_Sig.JPG VFP Eincyc (talk) 00:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, you're great. --Kakun_Sig.JPG VFP Eincyc (talk) 17:50, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
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