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  • The second and the third UnSignpost articles
  • Ukraine on VFH
  • Brittany (beginning)
  • Political discussion started on Reverend's talk page

edit The UnSignpost has arrived...Quick hide!

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:11, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

edit Is this the City Desk?

(Protocol might require this to go to Editor ScottPat, but surely he'll see it here.) Food for thought. Admin Zim ulator has not only "appeared briefly" "woken up" as today's UnSignpost states, but has re-laid-out the UnNews Front Page with fresh stories. (Romartus had been doing this with competence but with decreasing frequency.) Zim preceded me as Editor-in-Chief of UnNews, had told me that "acclimating seems...wiser...than diving right in," but may now have dove in. If so, this would be a newsworthy development and one that some Uncyclopedians might even take as an excuse to write more UnNews articles.

Separately, your coverage of the vandal was done with enough discretion that I don't feel he will celebrate himself too much; thanks. Spıke ¬ 20:14 18-May-13

I quote myself:
"Recently User:Zim ulator has woken up and User:Orian57 appeared briefly. Zim ulator seems to be here to stay so on behalf of the community of Uncyclopedia we welcome him back."
User:Zim ulator has woken up is one section of the statement with one verb refering to the noun. User:Orian57 appeared briefly is the other part of the sentence with one verb refering to the noun. You could even switch the order: User:Orian 57 appeared briefly and User:Zim ulator has woken up. I therefore never claimed that User:Zim ulator appeared briefly and even went out of my way to explain that he hadn't in the next sentence of the UnSignpost just in case someone mistaked the English in the first sentence. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:22, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

For Chrissakes. I apply a suitable correction above. I fished the UnSignpost out of the bottom of the bird cage to add a quote and re-read it quickly. The point I was making is unchanged. Your honor is intact. Spıke ¬ 20:28 18-May-13

I don't understand what you meant by the reply as you say my "honour [sic.] is intact" but also say that the point you made "is unchanged." Confused. Sorry. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:33, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

That was a little joke, that is, sarcasm: You pounced at length on a misreading that ultimately makes no difference. Spıke ¬ 20:45 18-May-13

I don't see how it makes little difference as you attack me for not respecting User:Zim ulator's work and I defended myself rightfully in saying I had commended him and welcomed him back. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:49, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
PS - Also reverting me for asking for help with a coding error's a bit off. Don't abuse the power Spike, I still respect you. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:50, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

I did not attack you at all! I reported that Zim's return is something the UnSignpost might give special focus to, to the extent that it holds promise for Uncyclopedia's future. If I was supposed to infer from the UnSignpost that you had come to the same conclusion, I'm sorry. On my talk page, I erased a request that I make a clerical correction--a request of no enduring significance--within a minute of in fact making that correction--and you instantly interpreted it as me blowing you off. An accusation of "abuse of power" hinders my ability to do this job and I take it seriously, and hinting that your respect for me is in the balance is manipulation.

You have spent too much time today imagining "attacks" on you and--not for the first time--needing to clear the air. (Also at Mimo&Maxus, and that user is younger than you and Greek is his first language, and these are two reasons why the air might not be cleared, and you ought to confine your remarks to editing issues.) Spıke ¬ 21:02 18-May-13

I never attacked Mimo at all. He asked me to chill so I, in a jokey mood, wrote a reply that typical South London teenager would. It was not meant to be interpreted as an attack. (How do you know whether he is younger than me as you don't know either of our ages?). I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you wrote and I'm sorry about the last saga. I'm going back to article writing now as I enjoy it more. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:47, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Well, you are actually attacking each other right now. Why can't we insert the news about Zim in the next UnSignpost (because we will probably have the lack of information as always)? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 07:38, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
Ok. We'll have a bit on Zim in the next UnSignpost as well. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:23, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
To be honest I'm fed up with the argument and I don't really understand what the actual argument was about. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:24, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

edit VFH Thanks

Thanks Anton for voting for Emu War and EU on VFH. I will try and get the Churchill reference dealt with thanks for reminding me. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:18, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

That's fine. If you have problems with doing it, you can just add an extra section telling how other countries contributed to the war. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 10:20, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

edit VFD

Can I nominate articles for Votes For Deletion? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 13:09, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Of course. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:18, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
Follow the rules, though. Most importantly:
  1. Check the history to see if a better version existed. If the article was vandalized, just undo the vandalism.
  2. Don't nominate articles less than a week old; we have other tools-of-torture for them.
  3. Attach a {{VFD}} tag to the article. Spıke ¬ 13:41 19-May-13

edit Swearing in articles

Thank you for making an issue of obscenity in the UnBooks article nominated on VFH. Swearing to strangers gives laughs to the author, whereas my vision for the website is to give laughs to the reader--who will not enter if he is sworn at on the main page. Thus I recently made an issue of including the "cunt decoration" article in the Recent list. American Uncyclopedians are largely from the two coasts and neglect the culture of the interior of the country, whose residents shun foul-mouthed people. Spıke ¬ 13:41 19-May-13

I did point this out to Aleister in the comments section below however he mentioned that the swearing was appropriate for UnBooks. I agree about searing putting people off however and I don't swear in any of my articles as it looks unencyclopedic and also I try not to swear in life.
PS - So Aleister comes from the Falkland Islands in the interior of the USA. Interesting...like every region/city in the US it must be named after a European city/region. (And yes the Falkland Islands are part of Europe). Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 14:35, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

That's not true. Many large US cities are named by the nationality that first settled the region, but others (and many states) are named for the natives, such as Seattle. Others are not that way at all: Truth or Consequences.

Swearing might be "appropriate for UnBooks." My problem with UnBooks is that it is a namespace that seems to carry an implicit message to "write however you want and don't worry about it fitting into a larger work." Regardless, the question on VFH is whether a given article should go on our main page and be our calling-card to new readers, and your answer is valid.

Aleister has thoroughly confused me as to what I do and do not know about him; but I never believed he is in the Falkland Islands. And I cling to the notion that the thing that both informs his mindset and enables his participation here is monthly checks for being "Permanently Unable to Work," though he has denied it, I think. Spıke ¬ 14:48 19-May-13

The Falkland Islands comment (as you know) was a joke. We Brits have a stereotypical view that every US city is named after one of our cities but I know that is not the case, I was joking, I've lived in the US I do know a bit about it.
I never for one moment belived that Al is from the Falklands. He writes in American English which Falkland Islanders do not. They are about the most patriotic people in the whole of Great Britain so would in no way want to associate themselves with other countries by spelling in their language dialect. Al is from the US as his references culturally stem from the US. The US is a big country but I do not have enough knowledge to pinpoint his culture refernces to a region of the US. I'm going to chose the North-East as most Americans live there so I have a high chance of being correct. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 15:16, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

(Full disclosure: I made sport of swearing Texans in Jam Jesus, and am quite willing to swear for a specific purpose, such as in the photo caption of UnNews:UnNews wire hacked; President is unhurt. However, at UnNews:Baseballer detonates bomb in Boston but walks free, using the sports-page euphemism "bleeping" did the job perfectly. Spıke ¬ 12:35 20-May-13)

Is it possible to create a program which will react to several swear words, like it does to external links? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 16:26, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

I can easily write an Abuse Filter (the thing that flags insertion of external links) that would be triggered by an edit that added a line containing an obscenity. I do not know how to make it count occurrences. However, addition of an external link is something I always want to take a look at. I will not always want to take a look at an edit that adds an obscenity. (I'm getting tired just thinking about that!) There is a difference between you and I agreeing that obscenity is not the highest quality writing, and a site-wide consensus that we will not permit anything of lower quality, which is a consensus we would never achieve. An Abuse Filter would only be appropriate if we were trying to eliminate obscenity entirely, and I gave you two examples above of cases where even I chose to use it. Spıke ¬ 16:41 20-May-13

I guess that's rather hard. Then we should just leave this all on the responsibility of writers (I am not sure if you can say this in English). Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 16:46, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

edit Review of HowTo:Write a HowTo that will get featured

Scott, thank you again for reviewing my work (I guess I begin repeating what you say). I wanted to explain my concept and humor:

  • My concept was rather ambiguous which I myself cannot phrase very well. What I wanted to do is to create a funny guide which at the same time will teach the reader what to do in his article (all my advice are relevant) and what not to do (that is basically what I did in my article). My main joke was that a person (who seems to be very experienced) teaches others how to write a good how to but actually completely fails and does the opposite of what he tells to do. The point is that although it is so, I hope that my guide will actually be helpful because I talk about several things which are not mentioned in other guides (as HowTo:Write a HowTo article and HowTo:Make your first HowTo.
  • I basically don't have any jokes in the introduction. It is made in order to give a impression that this is an original guide which will tell you something more than the other ones about writing good articles (and here I give examples of two other guides). This will become a joke at the end when, after not being able to finish the guide, I make another reference to those two article and suggest to read them.
  • In addition to theism if you may have noticed, I give several links to Wikipedia and, if the reader actually bothers to click them, he'll see what I am pointing at. What I basically said in the introduction is that: your article will be considered the best on Uncyclopedia and even on Wikipedia, but people who will consider it to be good will be Uncyclopedians. To be even more clear, I said that Uncyclopedians will think that your article is the best on Wikipedia.
  • What I am telling in the VFH part is that:
  1. When your article doesn't pass it, that means it has to be improved
  2. But it was supposed to have been improved by now, so that means that you probably can't improve it even more
  3. Basically, you don't have to delete the article in this case, the point is that my concept wouldn't work in other case. I wanted to show that I promise you how to get your article featured but don't achieve it.
  • Please, I would like to know which sentences are complicated to read, so I could improve them. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 10:22, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
"My main joke was that a person (who seems to be very experienced) teaches others how to write a good how to but actually completely fails and does the opposite of what he tells to do" sums up beautifully what I was trying to say in my long-winded humour paragraph. However I find the humour too subtle. It needs more bolstering.
Here is the phrasing that I found was a bit tongue-twisting: "2.Write about something: telling people how to make nobody do nothing may be funny but is completely useless. You should make an article which can be some kind of use to people (otherwise they will soon forget about it). Oh, it is rather off topic. Ok. So write about something: telling how to make nobody do nothing is absolutely nothing and you should write about something." I know it is part of the joke but still gets me lost. Anything you can do to explain it more easily is appreciated. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:33, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

I will try to improve it, thanks for your suggestions! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 18:20, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

edit VFH: Emu War

Thanks for reccomending that I stuck this article on VFH. I never thought it to be good enough but people see the funny side to it and it's doing well for itself so thanks for giving me the nudge. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:26, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome. Its concept is great as well as humor. Do you need help with it? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 16:57, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
If you could add the Winston Churchill reference that would be great. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:49, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
I can work on it. Just to warn you: what I am going to do is to add a section or 2 (rather short) where I will say how all the other countries participated in the Emu War. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 18:08, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
Great! Perhaps call the section, "Foreign Aid." Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:15, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
Anton the work you've done on it is great but it is on VFH and now looks incomplete so before I know it people are going to be voting against it because they will think it is incomplete. I am going to delete your last sentence for now so that it is complete and you may add the next paragraph when you next work on it. I hope you understand, thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:21, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for that. I am afraid you are too late with deleting the sentence: I have finished the section. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 05:49, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
No finishing the section was fine, that was what I meant you to do. I only deleted the sentence for temporary purposes. Thanks for that though. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:06, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

edit Brittany (disambiguation)

This article is on the region of France. For other uses see Brittany (disambiguation).

Spike, how do you do to make a template about: "This article is on the region of France. For other uses see Brittany (disambiguation)", please? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 19:16, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

I would not use a template at all. Look at how Wikipedia does it. Just code it as I've done now at the start of this section.

edit NotM

I have just nominated you for Noob of the Moment as you have done brilliant work as a noob for this community. You may vote for yourself there if you wish. I will add a template to the top of your userpage stating that you have been nominated for the award. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:42, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

PS - I have also nominated and voted for DarthMoogle as I couldn't decide between you two so the decision on who gets it will have to be made by other voters. Keep up the good work. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:59, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! It was a big surprise for me to see this template on my user page! And when did you win it? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 09:24, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
Yesterday! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:28, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
Congratulations!
My talk page is becoming long very quickly. Here are several most important points from the beginning (I am creating my third archive).
  • Articles: Germany (needs a rewrite) and buildings (has to be created).
  • Featured articles: create a better version in my user space then decide whether it should be moved or not.

Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 09:30, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Lets focus on Napoleonic Wars as well. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:50, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

I am trying to. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 09:53, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry perhaps that comment didn't come out well, I didn't mean to be forcing you, simply reminding you. I feel useless as I'm revising and can't do much on it now. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:55, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
It is an Uncyclopedia tradition that, when users archive their talk pages and create a blank page, someone comes along and "rapes" it with a pointless comment (usually "RAEP!"), just to be the first. When you archive only the older conversations and leave recent ones--the way I do it too--many of the website's rapists are irritated. Spıke ¬ 10:09 22-May-13
Anton's got three flippin' talk page archives and I've only got one! Nobody ever writes on my talk page anymore...(sob)...(sob). Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:15, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
So my archive won't be raped? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 12:41, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
I don't believe I stated any such guarantee. Spıke ¬ 12:45 22-May-13
Well, thank you for informing me, anyway. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 12:54, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

edit Writing in American-English

Is there a specific reason why you write in American? Perhaps try writing in English-English in articles, especially when we are collaborating together. English-English is the type of English I write in as I am English and when we collaborate we ought to write in the same dialect. The biggest difference between the two is the spelling of words. Words such as "rumor" in American are spelt "rumour" in English. Same goes for Labour (labor) and harbour (harbor). Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:21, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

In other words, if you learned one way, and ScottPat learned another way, then you, not he, must change.... In fact, the general rule is to write in whichever dialect best matches the subject matter of a given article, so as not to distract the target reader with the fact that words are spelled in ways he does not recognize. The only thing to avoid is to mix dialects within the same article; this is especially distracting to the reader. Spıke ¬ 13:43 22-May-13
The specific reasons is that when I write rumour and not rumor, the word gets underlined (I have an American keyboard) and I don't really like that so I change. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 14:42, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
No need to reply to him Anton he was carrying on my joke. On a serious note as I underlying message of my comment as we are collaborating on my User page and as we are writing about the Napoleonic Wars I think we should write in British-English as the Napoleonic Wars did not involve the US as much as it did the UK and we're both Europeans so we might as well apeak European-English. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:03, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
I was actually replying to your question. I understand that you prefer British English and I will begin using it. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 18:35, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, ScottPat, I was not making a joke; it is absurd to suggest that your wishes override Anton's. However, your later rationale is valid for this collaboration. Anton, it is not the nationality of your keyboard that forces underlining of British spelling as erroneous; it would be the settings you have given your operating system. You might change this so that it helps you align your spelling with ScottPat, rather than nag you for doing so. Spıke ¬ 18:44 22-May-13
No I was making the joke of being a stereotypical hate American spelling Brit. I'm fine with him writing in American but I as mentioned it would be good if he wrote in what we call "Proper" (hint: that was a joke) English on this one. I just presumed you knew I was joking. Thanks for agreeing. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:00, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
What I meant by "nationality of my keyboard" was actually "the program the operational system has been given". I just wanted to simplify it: thus, it is because the keyboard is American. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 15:11, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

edit Adoption service

As you note on your user page that you eagerly help new users, you might like to list yourself as an official adopter of new users at Uncyclopedia:AAN/Adopters. (It is a tenet of life that we take the things we love and formalize them--usually as a "career"--until we come to hate them.) Spıke ¬ 15:11 24-May-13

When you adopt a user, should you just help him when he doesn't know something and if he has problems? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 15:50, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but it should be more than just waiting for him to ask questions (as we all answer once asked). If you are not watching everything on Special:RecentChanges, you should at least watch your adoptees once in a while with Special:Contributions/name to advise him if he does something wrong. Spıke ¬ 16:11 24-May-13

I think that I can manage that if I abandon several of my other Uncyclopedia activities for some time. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 17:33, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Don't do that! I mean like once or twice a day! When we want people's creative output replaced with prevention-oriented chores, we make them Admins. Spıke ¬ 17:50 24-May-13

I am sorry to say that but I think I lost my creativeness and would prefer helping someone than writing an article. I am currently working on Brittany and it is actually getting longer and longer. But I feel that there are too few jokes and all of a same kind.
You may have noticed that I have listed myself as an adopter. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 17:55, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Your creativity will return (and when you least expect it!)--In the mean time, do whatever you prefer. I played with the first half of your article (up to menhirs, which stumped me, and I don't care to research them). I did not indeed find that you told one joke repetitively; but there was a lot of instruction, and a little text devoted to explaining to the reader exactly what was funny about the joke you just told. Spıke ¬ 18:52 24-May-13

Thanks! This is one of the few times my article actually made me laugh. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 18:50, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
That was actually very helpful. I wanted to ask you about Anna Pavlova (although you have probably never met her): can I simply re-write the article and not just edit it? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 19:15, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

As I said on VFD: Please take a copy and work in parallel. The original article contains affectations that strike you as wrong but strike me as a legitimate humor strategy. We might conceivably want to preserve both versions. Spıke ¬ 19:26 24-May-13

If it helps, I always receive my inspiration in short bursts and then I can't think of anything for a while and then it comes back again. That is just how creativity works but don't let that stop you article writing. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:28, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
I am working on it. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 07:47, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

edit VFH: Ukraine

I think we are ready to put it up. You may do the honours sir and don't forget to mention Spike's help as well. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:20, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

I will! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 19:23, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
Oh and by the way I didn't actually write the car insurance article I simply nominated it. I know you wouldn't think it looking at all the self-noms today but you can nominate someone elses article and that was the main point of VFH. So far I have only nominated two articles that weren't my own though (BNP and the car insurance one). Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:32, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
And who is the creator? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 19:33, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
I didn't check the history. Please read my comment about the article under your comment on VFH. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:36, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
PS - This Ukraine article of yours you just put up now, it's rather good so I voted for it. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:36, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
User:MaxPayne created it. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:37, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, that's a great surprise! I am glad that at least one person likes it! I did not know you were that interested in Ukraine to read the whole article several minutes after the nom. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 19:43, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
I am a very quick reader Anton. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:47, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

edit UnSignpost

Do you want a new UnSignpost article? It doesn't matter that the new issue will be several days later than normally. Also, do you think that the level of my English is 3 (as I wrote on my user page) or is it somewhere below? Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 09:28, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yes your Englsih is 3-4. Please write an article that would be helpful. I will probably make a publication on Monday. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:29, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Actually I spoke too fast about UnSignpost. I will try to write it tomorrow but I don't have any more time today. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 17:47, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

That's fine Anton. Please don't feel rushed. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:54, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Done. Hope that you will find it appropriate for publication. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 09:10, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Yes thanks, I'll write the UnSignpost up this evening. By the way there is a reply waiting on the Reverend's talk page. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:18, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

I replied to the one about Erwin joke. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 09:22, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

I never mean to offend people. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:26, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

edit Political Discussion on The Reverend's Talk Page Continued...

I originally posted this on the Reverend's Talk Page. Hopefully it should give you more historical background behind the "war" in Northern Ireland:

Anton you are looking at it from the wrong angle. The Northern Irelnd conflict was primarily a religious dispute between groups of Irish people. The Catholics advertised that they were the true Irish people as the Republic of Ireland is Catholic. The Protestants looked for support from the British government by claiming they were British but in reality they weren't. The British government in the 1900s remained a neutral in the conflict putting down any rebellions by any terrorists from any religion. However the IRA propaganda got to everyone and some believed it was Britain v Ireland. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:00, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

As for Bloody Sunday, it is a very contraversial thing. It plays into the hippy revolution well as it was pictured by the IRA as the State vs. the People (the Beatles were of course part of the hippy movement). However in actual fact there is more to it than that.
The IRA and revolutionaries had been holding extremely violent protests in the area for a few days and it was deemed to tough for the local police to deal with. The army decided to send in the paratroopers, one of the proudest and most trained regiments in the army, as they were doing atour of duty. The paratroopers had never dealt with a mob before and instead of waiting for the protest to come to them they began a battlefield style military manouvre to flank the protestors and prepare to attack them as it was rumoured there were key IRA members in the mob. The mob attacked the paras as they normally did to a police unit (some claim that some of the mob actually fired shots) however the paras took the attitude "no one attacks at us without us retaliating" and they fired back into the mob killing a few protestors. The blame probably lies in whoever sent the paras there in the first place as they simply carried out their duty and hadn't been trained properly for dealing with a mob. Some see it as a Tiannemen Square style incident however the mob were getting too much too handle for unarmed police and over the course of the recent months before many unarmed police officers were killed by IRA terrorists using firearms in the street.
The Northern Ireland conflict is often confused with the even longer struggle for Southern Irish Independence however these are two different wars. In the Irish Independence Wars the British were not neutral and forcibly tried to prevent Ireland from becoming its own country. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:17, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 05:08, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing this up for me! I understand right now and that is exactly what I asked for with my question about Northern Ireland's independence. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 07:01, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

The Northern Ireland issue is a bit difficult to unravel for outsiders but it wasn't a religious dispute as such but one of identity. What is called the Unionist/Loyalist community see themselves as British and are mainly from a protestant background (both Anglican and Presbyterian in origin) whilst the Nationalist/Republicans have been overwhelmingly (but not exclusively) from Catholic backgrounds. Ireland's political history has been linked with England (and Wales) since the 12th century. In both cases, the English conquered both Ireland and Wales but Scotland was a union that eventually came about with a common monarchy and then a united parliament (though as viewers of Braveheart will know, Mel Gibson sacrificed himself to preserve the haggis). --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 07:26, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

That's very interesting! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 15:54, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

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This was a heartless, generic message sent out to voters on VFH for or against my article to show that I really care about your votes. If you have received this message incorrectly please delete. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:25, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

No but seriously thanks Anton. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:25, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
You are welcome! I did not expect the former VFD article to become so good and funny. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 09:42, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
I finished the part about the Russian campaign. Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 09:43, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
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This was a heartless, generic message sent out to contribututors to articles to show that I really care about your contributions. If you have received this message incorrectly please delete.Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:03, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

PS - I'll stop this now I think the joke was over a while ago. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:03, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

edit The UnSignpost hath cometh

Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:24, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

That's great! The UnSignpost is still weekly! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 10:32, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
I apolagise for the delay. I blame the other writer! (Only joking! My fault entirely.) Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 15:29, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
That's all fine! Anton (talk) Uncyclopedia United 16:32, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
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