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edit Welcome to Uncyclopedia

Spike the Dog (06b)

Spike is a grumpy old dog. You can stroke his fur, or you can be smitten by his stick. It is up to you.

Hello, Anton199, and welcome to Uncyclopedia. This is a wiki (a collection of pages anyone can edit). Words in blue are "links" and can be clicked to take you to another page. This wiki is for comedy. It pretends it's Wikipedia, but we make people laugh, not bore them. If you aren't interested in a fake encyclopedia but in writing fake news stories, we have UnNews, and there are other projects for scripts, lyrics, how-to guides, and so on.

What you can do

You can create your own article. For starters, create it under your own name; for example, User:Anton199/Bedbug. (The red instead of blue is a link to a page that doesn't yet exist.) We have a list of articles that need to be created. You can help without writing articles; just read articles and, if you see an improvement in writing or in comedy, jump in and edit it. In fact, you can help without writing at all, such as organizing, watching for vandals, or even greeting other new users.

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To write articles, you need a sense of humor and an ability to write good English. We all have strengths and weaknesses and you can get help in any area. But everyone needs an ability to work with other people. Be polite, positive, and helpful toward others, and assume others are doing the same toward you.

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I hope you enjoy it here and write a lot of funny stuff! Spıke Ѧ 19:31 2-Apr-13

edit Probability theory

Hello, welcome, and thank you for your contribution! I touched it up so it looks more like a conventional Uncyclopedia article; for instance, an article on Probability theory does not need a section on Probability theory. You need to remove the small bits of first person, as encyclopedia articles don't talk about what "we" think or how sure "we" are. Cheers! Spıke Ѧ 19:31 2-Apr-13

edit User:Uca government/UCA

Usually users are not supposed to edit articles in other users' spaces. I understand that this article is a vanity piece about a clique. It is never going to be of interest to the general reader of this wiki. For this reason, it may be deleted at any time. Would you please spend your time writing material that will amuse someone other than yourselves? Thank you. Spıke Ѧ 14:15 3-Apr-13

Hello, Spike! Thank you very much for your help and advises! But I am still a bit confused about the situation with the UCA Government article. First of all, you see, when I was editing this article I didn't notice that it was another user's zone because I got a link to this article from another person and I thought that it was just a random article in Uncyclopedia. Now this is clear. But if it is a page of another user, I don't understand how it can be deleted. Can't a user write anything he wants on his own page? Anton199 (talk) 19:23, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Anyone can edit any page unless it has special protections. Even though you can edit a page under "Uca government" you ought not. Only Admins can delete articles. We would not delete established articles in mainspace without a vote at Votes for Deletion. We would not delete articles in userspace except for cyberbullying and vanity. This article seems to me to be vanity. If it continues to be the focus of a lot of attention, at the expense of articles that many readers would enjoy, I will delete it. Spıke Ѧ 20:23 3-Apr-13

Thank you, I've understood this now! But what should we do so the article would not get deleted. Because, although it's a vanity piece, we've still spent a lot of time on it. Anton199 (talk) 15:46, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Create a free account on any of the many social websites or blog sites, save the source and/or printable version of this page, and transfer it there. Some changes to the mark-up coding may be necessary. But Uncyclopedia is not for personal blogs, and the amount of time you spent on an article that doesn't belong here is not a valid argument. Spıke Ѧ 16:25 5-Apr-13

edit Normandy

Welcome Anton199. I'm quite new here too. I joined on 31st March 2013. Just popped by to say: Thanks for creating a page on Normandy. Uncyclopedia needed one. Also if you have any questions ask me on my user page (Click on my signature and go to the discussion page). Constant usage of this sight for six days in a row is making me very knowlegable about Uncyclopedia. SPIKE will help you settle in but then he abandons you and only comes back to tell you you've been taking up space with thousands of edits on "recent changes." Any articles that you make that are decent, like maybe the Normandy one you're creating, can be put on Pee Reviews. Check it out as you can review other people's work and get a good judgement of good and bad pieces if you read the "reviewed" section. You can vote to see whether certain pages should get awards on the Votes for Highlight section so get stuck in and happy Uncyclopeding. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:08, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help! I will ask you questions if I have any. Anton199 (talk) 18:53, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Read my comments in the discussion page of your Normandy article. Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:37, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Um, we don't care what Normandy's administrative capitals are, unless you can make it funny. The point of having an Infobox in a geography article is to look like Wikipedia and to be funny. Most Infoboxes here don't need to be filled out completely. Be sure your purpose here is to amuse the reader and not to teach him. Cheers! Spıke Ѧ 19:51 6-Apr-13

Ok, thanks, Spike. I actually wanted to make it funny but, I guess, didn't achieve it. Anton199 (talk) 19:56, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Is the bit about "administrative capitals" a joke that I just missed? We can make it work! But if it will take too much text to explain it to dumb Yankees like me, this is better done in the text of the article than in the Infobox. Spıke Ѧ 20:00 6-Apr-13

No, I mean, this wasn't really a joke. I just wanted to show that Normandy has a lot of different capitals at the same time. Anton199 (talk) 20:04, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

In that case, take it to Wikipedia or somewhere! But it sounds like something that could be turned into a joke, especially if the different administrative capitals becomes a burden for the citizen. Keep that in mind for later! Spıke Ѧ 20:11 6-Apr-13

Ok, I will. Anton199 (talk) 20:34, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Don't give up on the article. Just rethink it. Start again and make it funny. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 08:33, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Just seen the improvements. I love it. Its great so far. "3.45 million Vikings." However there are a few grammatical errors, "It is a surprising information especially for the people living in Normandy" should be, "It is especially suprising for people living in Normandy." Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 09:35, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

I've seen some more grammatical errors so I edited them myself. Hope you don't mind. You can change them if you are unhappy with them. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 09:37, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

"Apolagizes" is American. I have change it to "Apolagises" as Uncyclopedia is written in the English language. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 09:40, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! As English is not my first language, I sometimes make mistakes that I don't notice. Anton199 (talk) 09:43, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

That's ok. Don't let it hold you back from writing articles. By the way as an Englishman, I just wanted to say that Normandy was owned by England since the invasion by William the Conqueror all the way up to the Hundred Years War. Your article implies that the English invaded Normandy in the Hundred Years War. However do not let this change what you wrote in your article. I like the patriotic spirit behind it and I know some friends from Brittany (Bretagne) who think that Brittany should be a seperate nation form France. Also I saw you were writing about the Norman language/dialect next just thought I'd mention a strange but true fact: During the time of the French Revolution (1789) 30% of the population of France spoke French as their native language. Keep going. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 10:00, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

This is very interesting! I should edit the article a little, so it will be funny but still won't contradict the truth. Anton199 (talk) 10:29, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

ScottPat, I love it when you lecture a fellow newbie on our policy! In fact, Uncyclopedia articles use either American or British English depending on the thing written about, so obviously it's British English for an article on Normandy, except perhaps one with a WW2 focus. Most of our articles use American English, but the overriding rule is to follow the style of the page when you edit it, so the reader is not distracted by the inconsistency.
Regarding your history lesson, youse ought to spend less time discussing facts and more time discussing what would be funny. Notably, an article written from an alternate viewpoint (and this is hard to do well and I don't recommend trying when just starting out)--for example, an article written by a Frenchman--might flout the facts.
Regarding your spelling lesson, it's "apologize" (or "apologise"). Also, "separate." Spıke Ѧ 10:44 7-Apr-13

I think that I wrote everything I wanted about Normandy. Do you think the article looks like it's finished? Anton199 (talk) 10:55, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

I tightened up the wording at the start and the end. (It is unforgivable not to get through the first sentence without providing interpretation for the reader! and once this is turned around, the interpretation can even be funny.) There is a great deal about this article that is designed to introduce us to Normandy rather than to be funny; this is understandable, and you can do the first, but please, only as a side-effect of the second. Spıke Ѧ 11:26 7-Apr-13

I agree with Spike that this article is very informative and needs more humour. Try adding a paragraph on an event in Norman history/geography/politics that is serious and make it sound stupid and useless. Alternatively find a silly thing about Norman history/geography/politics that is silly and make it sound serious. Examples are: "The famous French comedian Remi Gaillard once filmed a scene in one of his sketches where a car filled with Nazis falls off a cliff onto allied invasion troops below on the cliffs above Juno beach in Normandy. This was upheld by the government of Normandy as a fine example of a sane [means: sensible, not crazy] Frenchman going about his daily business for the good of France" or "Normandy is famous across the World for the D-Day landings that took place here. However the French government denies that the D-Day landings ever happened and also denies that France was ever invaded by the Germans in WW2." (By the way both of these facts have been completely made up.) Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 12:39, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree: Don't make anything "sound stupid and useless"--make everything sound encyclopedic, and be revealed as total crap only when the reader stops to think about it! The perfect thing will straddle reality and silliness and will not be completely made up. It is too easy to just invent random stuff--the voters on Votes for Deletion disparage it as "Randumbo"--and has too little to engage the reader. Even Scott's made-up sentence isn't totally random; it is still about actual France, and would be even better if it were also about actual--Normandy! But yes, I didn't touch your sections on cuisine and language as they need a fresh approach; you are strenuously trying to introduce us to Normandy and the only humor is your amazement that it is so distinct from the rest of France. (Surprise! Read how distinct my New Hampshire is from the rest of the U.S.!) Spıke Ѧ 12:58 7-Apr-13

What I meant by stupid and useless as explained in my example is someone who is as insane and silly as Remi Gaillard (who is really a French comedian (as Anton199 probably knows)) being made to look like someone important and serious. Both sentences were relevant to Normandy but make your own ones up. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 13:10, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

If Gaillard is from Normandy, morphing him from a comedian into a statesman fits the bill and keeps one foot planted on reality; you get the point. Spıke Ѧ 13:16 7-Apr-13

I think he's actually from the South of France but I was just using him as an example as he was the most ridiculous Frenchman I know of so Anton199 may understand what I'm trying to say. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 13:26, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Spike, thank you very much for editing Normandy, it has become a lot better. I will try to make the cuisine and language funnier. ScottPat, I get what you mean. I will try to do it. Anton199 (talk) 13:33, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

'Fraid I beat you to cuisine! Your new initial quotation needs more work: Articles don't need to have these, and if they are present, they should be a clever aperitif for the reader. It's okay to have one from Hollande, but the subject (We are independent/no you aren't) is trite and the long exclamation mars the impression that it's an encyclopedia article, and this is the first impression. Spıke Ѧ 13:48 7-Apr-13

I know what Spike said about the Hollande quote but I think the one you put on there now isn't funny. Try, "Normandy? A country? C'est ridiculouse." Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 14:25, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

edit It is proved that....

This doesn't sound quite English unless it is in the perfect tense ("It has been proven that..."). But even so, the question arises: By whom? And you have stumbled onto a repeated piece of advice I give to editors: Just say it--without such adornment. Please read User:SPIKE/Cliches-1. Spıke Ѧ 21:09 6-Apr-13

Thank you, I've changed it. Anton199 (talk) 10:28, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

edit User Page

Create a user page to put your articles on. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 14:24, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

I should. Anton199 (talk) 18:53, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Read the last sentence of the Normandy talk bit above. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:55, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

edit Normandy bis

Some of last night's edits don't boost the humor of this page.

  • The page begins with the idea that "Normandy" sounds like "Norway." You pursue this in {{Whoops}}. Overnight, you added a quote that tells the same frickin' joke. If the reader thinks this is all you've got, he'll stop reading right there! Moreover, you attribute it to Oscar Wilde--surely not because it's funny but because you've seen it sprinkled on a thousand other Uncyclopedia pages--though it has nothing to do with Oscar Wilde nor with Normandy. Be funny; don't pursue humor by imitating. If it's not gay, don't make it a Wildeism.
  • That brings the article up to three initial quotations. The two that are left are about Hollande vs. Sarkozy, and the two adversaries suddenly finding themselves in agreement. All right, if short and sweet, but it too has nothing to do with Normandy (nor particularly with the two politicians). If you can't find a quotation that is a tasty aperitif for the article, it would be better off with none.
  • Regarding "(not to be confused with Brittany)"--Normandy is not to be confused with Zambia either. So what? Again, we must ease the reader into this article, not throw tangential ideas at him. If Normandy is often confused with its neighbor, this is better treated in a separate section. "Foreign Policy"? As in: The Normans pursue friendly relations with neighboring regions (and have done an awful job of it).
  • I minced a few words in the final section. But even people who know the history of Joan of Arc do not know that it was Rouen where she got burnt--Americans, for example, don't learn French history in such detail--and your rework of this section breaks that useful link. Meanwhile, what you have done to the item on Mont-Saint-Michel has no humor left and goes back to trying to introduce people to Normandy rather than making them laugh. Spıke Ѧ 13:08 8-Apr-13
Spike I have to respectfully disagree with your third point because many poeple over here in England get confused between Brittany and Normandy a lot. We just think thet Brittany is where we come from because we are Great "Britain" but the nobles actually came from Normandy. I'm sure French people get confused between the two regions if their not from round there. we get confused between Yorkshire and Lancashire and both counties hate being confused with the other. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 14:07, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
Spike, I saw all your comments. In next several days the article will be edited. Anton199 (talk) 14:06, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Very good; it's complete enough that no one will delete it in the meantime! Scott, as always, the issue is not what is true but what is funny. "(not to be confused with Brittany)" is not only not funny without some supporting text to explain the remark, supporting text in the first sentence of the article would be even worse: digressing to an unrelated concept before completing the explanation of the first concept, that Normandy thinks it's a separate country. It really does need to be moved beyond the Intro. Spıke Ѧ 14:18 9-Apr-13

Am looking at today's edits...

  • Good work tightening up the quotation.
  • "Some say...nobody knows" is unencyclopedic and only justified if done very cleverly. Once again, state it simply. Make its form authoritative, and have only its substance be crap.
  • "It here are French people who think that the Norman language is easy to understand." Well, "It here are" one Frenchman who thinks the same of English! Separately, what you prove is a proof. For God's sake, don't ask me why!
  • Brittany? Surely you're going to venture outward and do an article on Brittany next? Start at Anton199/Brittany, but feel free to replace what is at Brittany because it's only a disambiguation page, and a goofy one with no pictures, at that. Spıke Ѧ 15:08 9-Apr-13
Oh, I thought that a real Brittany article existed, that's why I put the link. Then I'll make a real one (I hope soon).

Anyway, I changed everything you showed me. The 'it here are French people' was purely accidental: although I sometimes make grammar mistakes but not such. Also, I didn't quite understand about "one Frenchman who thinks the same of English". If this is about me, then you are wrong: I am not French. Anton199 (talk) 15:25, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

A real article does exist at Brittany only it's not a real article. And yes, unfortunately I did assume you were French. Spıke Ѧ 15:34 9-Apr-13

edit I couldn't interest you with an UnSignpost could I, sir?

Tell me if you hate it and don't want it but here's your free taster of the free newspaper. (Don't worry we've subtracted £10 from your bank account.) Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 15:46, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 15:46, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! It's very good! Are you doing this alone?

By the way, my name in the article was useless to mention: I have already got a lot of help and advises (including the specifics). Right, Spike? Anton199 (talk) 16:00, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

I know but I needed to back up my point. By the way you should really get round to making a user page. Then we can see what articles you've made/contributed to. Anyway thank you for the approval. The answer to whether I am alone is yes and no. I'm not alone in supporting the fact that UnSignpost needs a comeback (it has been dormant for three months) and I get technical help from SPIKE and others but when it comes to article writing Dannyboy1209 wrote a biopic (on himself!) and two links to penguin and club penguin and I wrote the rest (Article 1, Article 2, Helpful pages, Comments). Usually two different writers write it but all the usual editors/writers have basically gone missing so I just decided to revive it. You, sir, can contribute. Articles and comments can be submitted to the UnSignpost page (find it through the links provided). I'm going to archive what's on there now, however and make a new fresh page maybe today or tommorrow so don't write there yet. Dannyboy has taken a keen interest in helping write articles but apart from that that's it. Please contribute. This open to anyone and then you too can have your name written in the contributions part at the bottom right. Listen to what the newspaper told you. I know you're new but please contribute to pee review and VFH. If you can't be bothered to write long comments about other's work then simply vote on VFH for articles that you like or hate. Please do because if people like you don't then articles don't receive enough votes to either pass or fail and then the feature item on the main page never changes for weeks. Anyway enough pleading and rambling said I see you've signed up for more UnSignpost: the next one I have planned for is 4th May so hopefully you shall receive one then. Keep going with your article writing. Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 16:56, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

I will create a user page some day, even though I don't have enough contributions to write about. Right now I am trying to create my own signature and I have big problems.... Good luck with your following newspapers! Anton199 (talk) 17:00, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

I know a wee bit about creating a signature if you want help. Here's my template: User:ScottPat/sig. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 17:04, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Anton, if you use his signature and start calling yourself Scott, we will never forgive you! There's additional help at UN:SIG, amid all the scolding. Spıke Ѧ 18:32 9-Apr-13

Ok, this is too hard for me to create something artistic, as I don't know anything about creating signature templates. So my will be short and simple. Anton (talk) 18:35, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

This is the test. Anton (talk) 18:38, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

It's fine I've got a pretty simple one. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:53, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

edit User Page

It's great. Thanks for mentioning me. By the way the plural of advice is just advice not advices so I corrected that. Keep going because you're doing a great job. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 20:10, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Anton (talk) 06:47, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

edit Votes For Highlight

Sorry, I don't want to annoying but may I remind you that there are many articles on Votes For Highlight that need voting for or against. If you contributed your vote could tip some articles over the boundary so that they could be featured on the front page of Uncyclopedia so check out the Votes For Highlight page now. It's on the left-hand bar of the screen. Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 07:22, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Very suprised to see you correcting other people's English! (It's only because I usually correct yours). No but on a serious note thanks for that as when I write my articles I write a lightning speed and can't be bothered to re-read them so I really appreciate it. Also at least it shows you've read the article in detail. Thanks. Tell me of any articles you've done recently and I'll be happy to correct them. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 10:33, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Me, too, I prefer writing articles quickly. This will be a great partnership if we keep on correcting each other. Anton (talk) 10:49, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. I was unsure about the article whether it was too history nerdy but I'm glad you like it. I always love the joke about the Low Countries not having any proper hills or mountains. Don't know whether you knew this but the picture there is the real picture of the real tallest mountain hill in Belgium. I have driven past it. It's on the French border and the taller part of th hill is technically in France. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 10:55, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Please vote on VFH for or against as many articles as you can. Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 10:55, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. I have already voted for 2. Anton (talk) 10:59, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

edit Pee review

Thanks. Perhaps if you are not to busy, sir, sometime in the near future you may be inclined to do one or two pee reviews of articles if sir doesn't mind. Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 11:07, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Dear sir, I have begun working on it. You say 'one or two reviews' which implies that you ask me with the only purpose to make Uncyclopedia better. But all articles there are yours... Anyway, I am not blaming you: that's just funny. P.S.: Please, be open to criticism. Anton (talk) 17:36, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

The reason why they are all mine is because I spent a lot of time and effort doing everyone elses that no one had bothered to do since November last year. I must have done fifteen. I would appreciate it if you did some please. Thanks Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 17:58, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Is the score supposed to be out of 50? Anton (talk) 18:38, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I think Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:47, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for that review. Amazing detail you are a great reviewer. If only the reviewer prize was still up and running I'd nominate you but you'd have to ask SPIKE about the Reviewer of the Month award. I've got a lot to work on then. Cheers. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:51, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

I am glad you like it. I guess I was too strict. Although I criticized you so much, I really like your article. Anton (talk) 08:26, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

I am reading your Lord Sutch now because I want to continue to vote. Has Lord Sutch ever been elected in his real life? Anton (talk) 08:52, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Please read my talk page thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 13:14, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

edit Hello

Seen you around recent changes and have read some of your edits and all, and have seen the activity on your busy talk page, so just wanted to pop my head in and say hello! Good to have you aboard this great ship, and will see you btih (before the iceberg hits). I'm off to hunt zebras and wallabee (they graze together in the magic bean patch). Aleister 10:25 13-4-'13

Hi, Aleister! Nice to meet you! If you have any comments, questions or anything about me and my work, feel free to share! Anton (talk) 10:56, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Al likes everyone. Everyone likes Al. Welcome Anton --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 23:07, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
Wait! can we vote? Spıke Ѧ 00:14 14-Apr-13

Thank you, Romartus! Sorry, Spike, I am afraid I didn't really get what you mean. VFH? Anton (talk) 09:01, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

No, that we vote on whether everyone likes him. Just joking. Spıke Ѧ 10:26 14-Apr-13

Ok. Anton (talk) 10:53, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

edit Your user page

Not to instigate another phase of your Great Depression; but if that is your user page, why is it about me? I am not "the" Admin but one of several; and I do make grammar mistakes, which other Uncyclopedians expose. With relish and delight. When it happens. But thank you for praising my editing. Spıke Ѧ 12:48 14-Apr-13

My user page is like a book where you put acknowledgements. It is not only about me but also about people who helped me. I think you can't deny that you did. I will change the title of this section so everyone will understand me.

Concerning the grammar mistakes, I haven't noticed anything so far. Just make some and I will rewrite the part about you. Anton (talk) 12:53, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

There are two deliberate ones in Ph.D. on VFH. Spıke Ѧ 13:22 14-Apr-13

Thanks again for your praise on your user page. I rephrased one sentence, as a comma led to a logical error. Here is an English lesson on a related subject:

“I like dogs that are black.”
~ A valid statement, if you like black dogs.
“I like dogs which are black.”
~ The same statement, but less preferred than the first way. Some editors go on "which hunts."
“I like dogs, which are black.”
~ This form--which must use "which" and not "that"--asserts that all dogs are black. This is generally not what you mean.

Your warning about editing someone else's articles is too absolute. Edit Funnybony's stuff and he'll praise you if it's at all good. You note your own willingness to be edited, which is useful information for others. Edit those articles listed on my user page and it had better be funnier than what I had before, and be the same style of humor. The same standard holds, and is enforced by many people, for articles that have run on the main page, unless they have been overtaken by changes in facts and need to be brought up-to-date. Other "owned" articles are owned by fallen-away Uncyclopedians and nothing will happen. A better rule is to check with an article's creator, if possible, before making major changes.

I personally don't like your jokes about causing problems and being persecuted; it happens too often, but sometimes people think it is happening when it isn't. But your praise of the people who helped you is helpful to the website! Spıke Ѧ 16:14 16-Apr-13

Your lesson is very useful! I have deleted the part about editing. Anton (talk) 17:55, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

edit Spellchecking

Thank you for spell checking so much of my work. I owe a lot to you. I'm glad someone's reading it thoroughly. You've been so helpful. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 13:26, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome. Meanwhile, I have made a second review. Feel free to criticize as I can be too strict sometimes. Anton (talk) 13:35, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the second review reading it now. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 13:45, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Just read it thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 13:46, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I have never lived in Britain. I currently live in Paris and I am Russian. Anton (talk) 17:00, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

Oh right. Ever been to Britain? Nice place you know. I know quite a few Russians here. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:46, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

To my greatest shame - no. But I know that it is a great country. Anton (talk) 18:09, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Well thank you. I've heard Russia is great too. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:07, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

edit Pee Review: Probability theory

I've done your probability pee review for you. I really liked reading it. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 07:29, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Newcookie ScottPat has awarded you a cookie!
For doing amazing pee reviews.

Thanks a lot! Anton (talk) 17:47, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

I have read it and it is really helpful. But there is the problem with the dice picture: did you see that this one has all the six sides and the 16,7% is a joke? But I will make it look better. Anton (talk) 17:57, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes. No need to make it look better. I just didn't see it the first time. I understand the joke fine it's good. Keep it. I'll just change the pee review to accomadate for my blindness. (By the way, on your comment above, we say 16.7% in English not 16,7% like on the continent. Just thought you ought to know.) Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:44, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hello Anton. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 17:57, April 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hello! I have changed the comma thing. Anton (talk) 17:58, April 16, 2013 (UTC)

Good. Got any more articles planned? Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:01, April 16, 2013 (UTC)

I have got a lot of ideas. The next one will be definitely started some time this week. Anton (talk) 18:04, April 16, 2013 (UTC)

edit Ukraine

I saw recently that the Ukranian article needed re-writing so I have started a new version on my user space. Being a Russian I thought you could take the article (it isn't finished yet) and tell me whether it contains any humour in it. If you want you could work with me an we could write this article together. See what you think: User:ScottPat/Ukraine. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:07, April 16, 2013 (UTC)

What you have written is so far is very interesting! But concerning the Supreme President, is the mistake in his name made on purpose? I like the way you write it and wish to cooperate. Anton (talk) 17:54, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Glad you spotted that mistake. I have named him such as there was a StalIN a LenIN and now a PutIN so all these great Russian leaders have "in" at the end of their names so so should the Ukranian one. So do you want to work on it with me? Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:01, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Unsolicited language lesson! In this context, "cooperate" does not have its historical meaning of "operate together." "I...wish to cooperate" conveys a strong sense of "I wish not to offer resistance." Spıke Ѧ 18:33 17-Apr-13

Why does it not have this meaning in this context? Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:39, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry just seen what he wrote. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:40, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

I'm having some problem with the crossing out thing. This is not meant to be crossed out. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:42, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

There is code that takes effect between paragraphs. I know it cancels bolding and italics achieved by consecutive quote characters, and apparently it remembers the state of strikethrough, which might have to be turned on and off in each paragraph. To avoid confusing Anton, I'll just delete your paste from Google, as I take it you agree that what Anton wrote doesn't sound right. (You have been the most adamant exactly when you have been wrong.) Spıke Ѧ 18:48 17-Apr-13

I'm sorry SPIKE you know my character. I'm just asking out of curiosity. I know it came out quite fierce. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:51, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

PS - And sometimes you are most adamant when you have been wrong such as dismissing the Emu War as a fictional war when the backbone of the story is completely true. Seriously look it up. (Anyway just saying. Let's stop making sly comments here and there.) Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:00, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. I wish to WORK TOGETHER with you. Unfortunately, I don't really have much time now, but I can add some parts to your article tomorrow or a bit later. Anton (talk) 19:09, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

That's ok. Take all the time you need. Just post any suggestions or paragraphs or topics etc. on this talk page or on the article. Thanks Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:24, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
Just popped by to say thanks for the changes mad to the Ukraine article. If we keep going like this we might have an article good enough for VFH. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 20:16, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

edit Ukraine Edits

Anton. I just wanted to say that I think your last edit doesn't quite fit in with the main humour point of thearticle as it finds humour in the fact that the Ukranians pretend they are Russian. However the rest of the article is satirically pro-Ukranian and would not think that Ukraine is pretending to be Russian it would say that Ukraine is Russian. I will give you an example of how I think it should be written to fit in with that style:

"Ukraine is the only country which has had a major influence on Russian culture and Russia's formation. The evidence that really backs this up is the well-known fact in Ukraine that Russian reversals were born in the Ukraine."

This is just a suggestion of how it should be written and you do not need to copy it or you can if you want to. I have not changed your edits as we are partners working together.

Just to clarify the point of the article is Ukraine biased as though everything that Russia is famous for is actually Ukranian. I know you are Russian so you probably detest this however that is why it is funny as it is satirical. In fact the idea behind this article was oringinally formed when my Russian friend kept telling me that Ukranians were in no way similar to Russia and that they should be part of Russia. Anyway, thanks. Keep editing. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:39, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

I have finished the part about Ukraine and Russia. I hope you like it. I would like to work more but don't have much time: that's why I am not really participating now and I sometimes don't answer your messages. Anton (talk) 15:31, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

edit Editing others' userspace

In general, don't edit others' userspace pages without their permission. If they are open to a collaboration then you can edit the userspace with them, but otherwise, it results in problems like the ones described above. The primary author of the piece is generally the one who has it in his (her) userspace. Thanks. -- Simsilikesims(♀GUN) Talk here. 19:43, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry but in case you didn't realise we are jointly writing this article and he has my full permission to edit this. Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:47, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, no problem then. Carry on. Collaborations in userspace are totally welcome. -- Simsilikesims(♀GUN) Talk here. 19:55, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. SPIKE suggested moving it to mainspace but there is already a Ukraine article up there however it is a very bad one so this is why we are rewriting it. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 20:31, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

edit Ukraine Continuation

I love your edits. They are great. Now that we have done the Russian reversal joke don't carry this out to make it look like the whole point of the article is Russian reversals. I've corrected some grammar mistakes and deleted the explanation to a joke as I thought that it was good enough to not need the explanation. I will expand on this paragraph a bit as well. Thanks, more parts like this when you can please. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 16:04, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

I will try to. You can leave politics part to me and I will work on it during this week. Anton (talk) 11:48, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
Good collaboration, guys. I also visited on "Ukraine Reversal" and likewise got the impression that Anton spent a lot of time telling a joke after it had already been told. For example, if you want the reader to relate the text to the photo, merely writing "(pictured)" does it in a dry way. (Reprising our discussion of national "humor styles" above: a tendency to explain a joke is an American stereotype of foreign comedy, especially the Japanese.) Any time you bring out the exclamation point, it breaks the encyclopedia cover so drastically that you should consider rewording so the reader will get the joke without being coached. Spıke Ѧ 12:35 24-Apr-13

Sure, I will apply this to my work. Anton (talk) 18:41, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

Anton you are here! Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:44, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry but not for a long time. I may leave at any moment. Anton (talk) 18:47, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

Try some editing while you are here. It's fun! Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:48, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

IMPORTANT: Anton, I'm moving the User:ScottPat/Ukraine work to the actual Ukraine article now. Please edit Ukraine from now on. Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 07:41, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

PS - I left in abit of the original Ukraine article and added it to the History section I was writing as I thought it was quite funny. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 08:09, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

That's great! I will be able to work on it tomorrow! Sorry for a long delay! Anton (talk) 18:38, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

No it's fine. Don't mean to sound impolite but don't forget the Lord Sutch review you said you'd do a while back. Don't feel you need to do it immediatly, I'm just reminding you. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:34, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. I didn't forget, I just forgot. Anton (talk) 10:09, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 10:13, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Anton (talk) 10:44, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Please work on Ukraine now if you want. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 10:46, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Ok Anton (talk) 10:55, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

I think the articles really taking shape and will be one of our best. It really helps when two people work together as then the article doesn't feel too samey (similar) throughout. Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 11:14, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

PS - When we have fully finished the article we'll get my good friend User:Reverend P. Pennyfeather to correct the spelling and grammar errors in both of our writing, put it up for pee review and if good enough, VFH. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 11:16, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Yes indeed, one-author articles are too coherent and sometimes even get accused of having a theme or a comedy strategy! No, seriously, cheers to both of you for identifying and using all the available talent. Spıke Ѧ 11:26 28-Apr-13

I have finished the Pee review. By the way, congratulations with your featured article! Anton (talk) 12:17, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Anton, thanks for continuing to work on this. But try to avoid the device of long lists where the items aren't inherently funny on their own, because anonymous editors see this, think they can add to it, and pretty soon the article is junk. Instead, identify the funny point you are trying to make and write a paragraph about it, such as underneath the list. The hackers won't touch that. Spıke Ѧ 11:51 29-Apr-13

Ok. So I should just explain the list in the article? Anton (talk) 12:04, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I think that would be more robust--and funnier. As always, don't so much "explain" anything as simply make the funny points. Spıke Ѧ 12:12 29-Apr-13

I get it, thank you! Anton (talk) 12:14, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

It was rather hard to give my funny points (the joke is that in the list all the parties which have the normal names like "Our Ukraine", "Ukrainian People's Party" are real and all their opponents which seem to be right (not left) such as "Animal's Party", "Christian Anti-Democratic Union" are fake), so I just divided this long list in two small parts (right parties and left parties). I think that it is better now. Anton (talk) 12:35, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

This will indeed frustrate Anon when he comes along to add the Hello Kitty Party. He will not know whether to put it on the "right" or on the "left." At the risk of again depressing you, I'll come aboard to copy-edit your political history. Spıke Ѧ 12:44 29-Apr-13
Having read Parties now, I think you are focusing too much on informing us (of details of specific parties that no one in the English-speaking world will understand how to process) and too little on comedy. That is, none of your readers will be amused by what joke you are making of the actual party, though we might be amused by creative use of English. (I thought about relating the "Animal Party" with Furry suit wearers.) And the list following "Also" is still an Anon magnet. Separately, "It is rumored that..." is one of those "encyclopedia clichés" that I rant about. Uncyclopedia should spend no time explaining how it came to discover any fact, especially that it doesn't really know; but you repeat the "rumor" angle a second time. Spıke Ѧ 13:12 29-Apr-13

I wanted to explain the jokes about different parties because you say that I am focusing too much on informing and too little on comedy:

  • My main joke is that anti-American political camp is a lot stronger than the anti-Russian one, as if Ukraine was still part of the USSR (by the way, this is not completely fake, see [1]
  • The joke about 'Our Ukraine' is connected with the USSR when the government tried to "protect" people from western "dangerous" influence. That's why I said that the party is called 'Their Ukraine' (their=American; not ours=Russian) by its opponents and which is a terrible insult. (This is fake, of course)
  • The Animal party, as you have probably understood, is made up. When I say that the People Party was banned and that the Animal Party is an average Ukrainian party, I am basically saying that there only animals in Ukraine have the right to take part in politics.
  • Separatism one doesn't exist, it is made in order to give the impression that there is an absurd right anti-party which is against a real left party.

Anton (talk) 15:18, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Also, my the English's language is being not bad such, to have laughed been on it. Just kidding. Anton (talk) 15:26, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

To take just one: "Separatism one doesn't exist, it is made in order to give the impression that there is an absurd right anti-party which is against a real left party." I did not know this before I read it, and I did not know this after I read it. Therefore the joke flew over my head. Nor did I realize that you made up the Animal party; I thought this had something to do with Western "animal rights" movements. Unless the average reader knows a lot more about Ukraine than I do (which, I admit, is nothing!), a joke you have to explain on a talk page is not a good joke. Spıke Ѧ 17:02 29-Apr-13

edit Lord Sutch pee review

Thanks a lot, Anton. A joke explanation:

  • He was born on a date. Date means date as in 28/4/13 or the fruit date. So he was born on the fruit date.

Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 12:27, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Oh. Ok. Then you should leave it. Meanwhile, you can look at the list of Ukrainian parties. Anton (talk) 12:43, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

It's great but quite a few grammar mishaps. I'll touch them up for you. Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 12:56, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

ScottPat: Again on dates: Never write 28/4/13. I too use the British order (in my signature, for example), but 1/2/13 is ambiguous among Uncyclopedia readers worldwide. Spıke Ѧ 12:12 29-Apr-13

Lo siento, señor Spike. Si te gusta, escribiré mis fechas en Español. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 16:09, Abril 29, 2013 (UTC)

(Un señor que ha estudiado bien los datos en mi página de usuario.) Sólo que pongas el mes en letras en vez de números. Spıke Ѧ 17:02 29-Abr-13

Si, yo se pero es muy divertido hablar en espanol y puedo practicar esta lengua. Gracias. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 17:41, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

edit Ukraine Again (Rhymes!)

(Only in Britain!) Spıke Ѧ 17:02 29-Apr-13

Anton. I'm not sure your USSR joke will work as I have already donated USSR to mean actual Russia previously in the article so the joke in the table about driving on squashed USSR peasants won't work. I have left you to change the edit. I see two possible options:

  • Delete your Ukrainian SSR (USSR) joke.
  • Come up with another name for the Ukrainians to call Russians that isn't USSR.

Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 16:09, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't get why my joke doesn't work. I only said that Ukrainian SSR is USSR and this should not be confused with the USSR.

Anton (talk) 17:20, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Ah sorry didn't see the "not be confused with" bit. Thanks. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 17:37, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

PS - Oh and Spike as I wrote that I was actually wondering whether the Yankees would get it as I thought you might pronounce Ukraine as badly as you pronounce Israel, Iraq and Iran. Thanks for reading my mind. I would get you to write out how the Americans would pronounce it but I don't know how to read those sound things in dictionaries. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 17:39, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

You cloistered young man! it is "again" that we pronounce differently. Here it rhymes with "men" not "main." Don't ask Spıke Ѧ 17:50 29-Apr-13

They didn't pronounce nothing like again no different when I lived in the South of USA but then they don't pronounce nothing much there. They just speak with their shotgun (fully automatic, of course). Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 17:54, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Den you done had cotton in yo's ears. In Dixie, "again" rhymes with "pin." Spıke Ѧ 18:18 29-Apr-13
Spike, thank you for editing everything but I can I rewrite the piece about Animal party and make it funny? Anton (talk) 18:07, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
"This is a humor wiki." Have at it. Spıke Ѧ 18:18 29-Apr-13

Spike: Ever been to a Confederate state? They're nice people you know. Have to confess I've never been to a Yankee state. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:27, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

PS - Perhaps we should move the conversation as no doubt Anton is baffled. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 18:28, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

No, that's fine. But, on the contrary, I don't speak Spanish and feel a stranger when I see this dialogue on my talk page. (I am not saying that you should move it or anything) Anton (talk) 18:39, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
I have an uncle in Dixie. I was young and the walk to the outhouse was frightening because of his guard dogs. Dixie is one of the few places where bad things can happen to me just from my car license plate or my accent. I try to get through it without stopping overnight. More local color: In a "Yankee state," "Yankee" refers exclusively to New York City or to its baseball team.
Anton, you could be an American. Our motto: "The only reason those dark-skinned people could have for talking in that language is that they must be talking about me!!!" Spıke Ѧ 18:49 29-Apr-13
PS--Your enhanced description of the Ukrainian Animal Party doesn't seem like an improvement. This is a made-up party and the only joke is that, if there is a People's Party, there must be an Animal Party. Giving further details simply explains to the reader what was funny about your joke. The additional details on the People's Party contain bad grammar. Spıke Ѧ 18:57 29-Apr-13

Just two things:

  1. Do not become American (or French) Anton. Become British or stay Russian simply because these two nationalities are better.
  2. Spike: If you think you a Northerner (not Yankee, sorry) imagine how the locals took to the English people. Mind you the locals took to us quite well and we had to pretend that we went to Church (athiest family) and tell them that we didn't know what small town in England their grandfather came from was or where it was.

My dad on a visit to Kentucky once when asked by a local where he came from replied, "London." The local said he didn't have the right accent to come from London. My dad was confused until he realised that just down the road there was the little village of London, Kentucky. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:04, April 29, 2013 (UTC) Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 UnS CUN VFH (talk) 19:04, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Spike, what I am basically saying with the animal party is that people can't take part in politics. And those who can are animals (like in Russia). Anton (talk) 09:04, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
Also the details about 1991 in the part about People Party are necessary: they make allusion to the USSR "animal" government. What I am telling is that after the fall of the USSR, Ukrainians decided to make their government belong to people but their attempt failed. (this is just a joke; I have no idea if the Ukrainian government is as unfair and corrupted as its neighbor's (let's not name it). Anton (talk) 12:35, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
Hi, ScottPat! What do you want to write in the policies part? Anton (talk) 13:34, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Preferably two paragraphs: One on internal policies (welfare, education and healthcare etc.) and one on foreign policies (diplomatic relations - for this see my history part to find out who the Ukraine has been at war with). By the way you are doing a great job with this article. I feel like I am not contributing enough and am trying to think of some funny ideas for geography of Ukraine any ideas would be most appreciated (being Russian and probably having lived in Russia you might know a bot more about the terrain around there).

To tell you the truth I was expecting to write the politics part and had some ideas for that but you wanted to do and so I let you and I don't think I could have done anything half as good as that so I am pleased about your willingness to do the Politics part. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose UnS CUN VFH and Bar (talk) 15:13 21, October 2016

PS - If you ever get bored of writing ScottPat then you may address me as Scott because that's what most people seem to want to call me around here. Sir ScottPat Icons-flag-gb Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose UnS CUN VFH and Bar (talk) 15:13 21, October 2016

Sure. Concerning the politics part, I think that all I did still lacks some information so you can add anything you want to already existing sections. Anton (talk) 16:47, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

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