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edit Welcoming anons/users

Hi SPIKE, is it possible if you tell me the code you use to welcome users? I find your welcome template quite a good one, but I don't have the time to create one as I am mainly on Wikipedia. So perhaps when I use your template I will mention that I welcomed on behalf of you? Cheers. Graphium () 11:38, 20 June 2013

Sure; and I'm flattered. The code is at User:SPIKE/Welcome. You should customize the photo and caption. Do not welcome Anons, unless they are good; then use {{Account}} and invite them to register. Spıke Ѧ 13:07 20-Jun-13
I have left a message on Graphium's page. Ah..I like that idea of welcoming an IP who makes edits to improve an article. I will use that template too. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 13:25, June 20, 2013 (UTC)
I learned that from Simsilikesims. However, as I explain in my change summary, a full Welcome message, notably the part about how Anon would ask to be adopted, should wait until he registers; accordingly, I've changed Graphium's full welcome of the repairer of MMORPG. Spıke Ѧ 13:39 20-Jun-13
@SPIKE: OK, I will customise it when I have time before using it. Graphium () 10:13, 21 June 2013 10:13, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

edit How not to do it

Copied from User talk:Graphium

You promised me you would edit my Welcome message to change the personalization to yourself (or you can remove the personalization entirely) before using it to welcome new users. Do not deliver remarks that seem to be from me "on behalf of" me.

Separately, everything you know about good writing needs to be subordinated to evaluating how enforcement will look to a very new user. In particular, you should not engage in a revert war with a newly registered Uncyclopedian (who might not know how to see your rationale in the Change Summary) without explaining your disagreement, probably on his talk page. (In the case of Idontthinksomeonehasthisusername, this is now done.) Spıke Ѧ 13:27 21-Jun-13

Oh, sorry SPIKE. Graphium () 07:35, 25 June 2013

edit Anton199

Can I, please, welcome new users to Uncyclopedia? If I can, then can I take your welcoming message (I know where to find it) and change it a bit? Anton (talk) 06:48, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, make your own. Just remember to keep it userspace (I learned it the hard way), and that the code works well. Don't make it too long, and include all the necassary n00b articles. --The Shield of Azunai DSA510My Edits! 00:19, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
Of course you may welcome new users, and I'd be happy for you to take parts of my message; see also just above. Spıke Ѧ 04:13 9-Jul-13
Ok. I will work on it. Anton (talk) 12:12, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

edit Restoring Harry Potter (character) after deletion by VFD

Hi, I am about to restore an old version of the article Harry Potter (character), which was deleted on January 6, 2010 via VFD (here is the link to the discussion). The version I intend to restore (here in my userspace) is mostly the article's original version from December 2007, with a few later edits incorporated and some tidying up of my own. The original work is almost totally unrecognizable in the version that was deleted in January 2010 (article rot at its highest), so I don't think "restoring" the article would be a problem. Besides, the current version of that article is only a redirect to Harry Potter, which, in return, contains a link back to Harry Potter (character).

Since you seem to be the guy maintaining VFD, I thought I would ask you whether an {{Oldvfd}} template should be put on the article's talk page, in order to preserve and represent the article's history? Or, to avoid adding the article to Category:Deletion Survivor, substituting the template and then removing the category? Schamschi, 18:25, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not in the full know here but in your situation I would just copy and paste your article into the redirect page. I have never even heard of Deletion Survivor and I have re-written a few from VFD so I wouldn't bother worrying about that. Leave the old VFD template on the talk page. Of course see what Spike says as he's the veteran. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:32, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your input, however, I don't want to just copy and paste the new version because it isn't really my own work and I think it should be attributed appropriately, which is why I want to preserve the article's history. Schamschi, 18:37, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
Oh fair enough, I see. I would say restore history then but wait for Spike's decision. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:40, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

A vote of VFD is a vote (with procedural safeguards including quorum and minimum time before deletion) to discard another Uncyclopedian's work. It certainly does not mean that no article can ever again be created on that subject. But unilaterally going against the decision of that August Body is a serious offense.

The rules say that a nominator is supposed to comb through the history and look for a better version. This might not have been done in this case; also, I see that my vote was that the current state of the article was a result of numerous bad edits by numerous IPs. This also argues that it had seen better days and that there was a better outcome than outright deletion. Given your own personal attention to it, you are helping the website to restore an older, better version.

Past that, however, I am lost. Harry Potter (character) now redirects to a disambiguation page. It should live on, under the name Harry Potter (disambiguation), and the referenced pages should feed it ("For other uses of Harry Potter, see...."). Your text could go to Harry Potter (character) or just Harry Potter (if you wish to repair the resulting red-links). I see that RDB deleted this as you say, also that Lee Harvey Osmond undeleted it on 25-Nov-2012. But there is no article history; only the creation of the redirect. I agree that the history should be preserved, but I do not see how to recover it. Maybe the Chief can.

On {{Oldvfd}}: You should copy this discussion to the restored article's talk page. Oldvfd is a strange duck; by definition it never appears with result=Delete. However, it is often used with something other than result=Keep, when necessary to explain other action that the VFD voters agreed to. You should tag it with {{Oldvfd}} simply to point to the VFD vote (although copying the discussion will also do so). Spıke Ѧ 19:10 14-Jul-13

Actually, User:Schamschi/Harry Potter (character) is the page that Lee Harvey Osmond aka Roman Dog Bird restored, meaning the article and its whole history, it's just that I already overwrote the last version (the version that was VFD-ed) with the version I want to restore. I don't know what exactly RDB did – judging by the logs, he wasn't quite sure how to do it, which is probably why the redirect Harry Potter (character) is no longer protected (it used to be). Maybe I should have asked for permission to overwrite the page because of this, but Lee Harvey Osmond (he was the one who protected the redirect after the VFD) is no longer active and he didn't seem to care about the whole issue back when I asked him, so I just assumed that nobody would care if I overwrote the redirect, not only because the version I intended to restore had basically nothing to do with the article that was VFD-ed, but also because, even though the disambiguation page links to 3 articles, none of these really fills the "Harry Potter (character)" niche. But I understand what you are saying about the VFD policy about checking for older revisions etc.
About the disambiguation page: What I meant was that within the first entry in Harry Potter there is a link to Harry Potter (character). Yes, this is a sign that the disambiguation page is badly organized, and needs to be remedied. I already addressed this issue here in November 2012, but nobody responded (probably because nobody was watching the page), and I didn't care enough to pursue the issue.
So does that mean that you're OK with me moving the page from my userspace to Harry Potter (character) if I repair the disambiguation page and make the articles referenced there link to it? Schamschi, 20:15, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I am OK with it. I posted a query to ChiefjusticeDS on the history, but apparently youse moved it after restoring it and you are in possession of the history. I do not want to make my approval contingent on the conditions you list, but I do like a job to be done completely, cheers! Spıke Ѧ 03:35 15-Jul-13

OK, could you please unprotect Harry Potter so I can update it? And do you mean that I should move this disambiguation page to Harry Potter (disambiguation) and make Harry Potter redirect to it? Because there currently doesn't seem to be a Harry Potter article in the broad sense, only specific articles (Harry Potter (character), which is where I intend to move the restored article, Harry Potter (books), Harry Potter (films)). Schamschi, 10:26, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

You are now able to edit or move that disambiguation page. Spıke Ѧ 11:33 16-Jul-13

OK, thanks. But it turns out I still need your help, because apparently I can't move the page from my userspace to Harry Potter (character), even though the notes say "Note that the page will not be moved if there is already a page at the new title, unless it is empty or a redirect and has no past edit history", which is why I assumed that I would be able to move the page. So could you please delete Harry Potter (character)? Schamschi, 11:55, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Done. I listed it on QVFD to make it official, and to show you an alternative way to make this request that would be carried out by whomever was on duty. Spıke Ѧ 12:02 16-Jul-13

Thanks for your help! I wouldn't have thought about putting it on QVFD, since the deletion of that page only made sense within the context of the move, and I thought that this would be outside the scope of QVFD. But I'll keep that in mind. Schamschi, 12:08, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Good point; another Admin would not only have had to research the issue, but would have gotten around to it only perhaps once-a-day, which would have delayed your project. Spıke Ѧ 12:11 16-Jul-13

Continuing this, you are changing several links to point to the disambiguation page, commenting at one point that Uncyclopedia could eventually have a Harry Potter article, as Wikipedia does. Why is this a pointer to the disambiguation page, and not exactly the full article you have restored? Although the disambiguation page has a bit of humor, why don't you point those other articles directly to the content? That is, why do we have a Harry Potter (character) (with a redirect at Harry Potter (person) and not a Harry Potter? The rule at Wikipedia is that you never point to a disambiguation page but take the reader through it to the desired content page. Spıke Ѧ 13:09 16-Jul-13

I assume you mean the redirects I have changed, because if I have changed in-article-links, I've only changed them NOT to point to the disambiguation page. Yeah, you're right, it would indeed make sense for these pages to redirect to Harry Potter instead of a disambiguation page, but in the current situation, that would cause double redirects. But this is really the only reason I redirected these pages to the disambiguation page. Or do you mean that I should point these articles (eg. Draco Malfoy, Dobby) to Harry Potter (character) or one of the other articles from the disambiguation page? I thought that would be too specific, which is why I only redirected Harry Potter (person) to Harry Potter (character). Schamschi, 14:09, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
Ah, you mean that I should simply move the restoration to Harry Potter? But the question is whether the article is general enough to fit into that spot. It is true that the original title chosen by back in 2007 was The legend of harry potter and that it was MadMax who moved the page to Harry Potter (character) a few days later (Harry Potter was already a disambiguation page at that time), but the article is kind of focused on Harry. I agree that, if the disambiguation page is at Harry Potter (disambiguation), there should be a proper article at Harry Potter, but maybe Harry Potter (books) is better suited for that spot. The alternative would be to move the disambiguation page back to Harry Potter, so that pages can be redirected to Harry Potter without causing double redirects. Schamschi, 14:28, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

I mean that many of these distinctions are too fine. Whatever is at Harry Potter should be content. You seem to be saying that we have two pages with actual Harry Potter content, and whatever you decide, as to which of these is the "main" Harry Potter article, is fine with me; simply make it easy for the reader to find the other one too. If someone really wants to create an article on individual books in the series, we can deal with that later. Spıke Ѧ 14:46 16-Jul-13

OK, I've decided that the article currently at Harry Potter (books) is simply too bad to be moved to Harry Potter and be the "main" Harry Potter article, and unfortunately, its history doesn't look very promising either (not that the article I've restored is great, but I think it's a bit better). Also, I think the books-article is more focused on the books than the restored article is focused on Harry, which would justify making Harry Potter (character) the main Harry Potter article. Now there's only the page currently at Harry Potter standing in the way of the move … Schamschi, 13:53, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
Well, that should do it … thanks again for your help! Schamschi, 17:31, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

edit Interwiki requests


Hi there. I have requested twice now that someone insert the interwiki link cy:AAAAAAAAA! into that article, and you could do this, so would you please?

Also, I hear tell that local admins on Wikia wikis cannot edit a local interwiki table. This appears to be true, as Special:Interwiki gives me an error. Can you comment on this? Thank you. -– Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs 23:27, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Your interwiki link is now inserted. I cannot edit Special:Interwiki either, but not because I lack privileges, but because it is not one of the closed set of defined pages in the Special namespace. PuppyOnTheRadio knows more than I on how interwiki links are achieved. Spıke Ѧ 03:35 15-Jul-13
Thank you - but you'll need to remove the leading colon. Only as [[cy:AAAAAAAAA!]] will it display in the sidebar.
From what I can gather, only Wikia staff have access to the interwiki table, and Special:Interwiki doesn't exist for anyone on Wikia wikis. I think that's really all there is to it. I was mostly wondering what your opinion of this setup was. -– Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs 16:18, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
Hi, you still need to remove the colon. I suppose I won't bother you any more... :) -– Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs 23:12, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
Got it. Spıke Ѧ 11:33 16-Jul-13

edit Help:Contents

Sorry, another edit request. Could you add the following interwikis to that, please?

Thank you, and please remember to leave off the leading colons. -– Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs 00:47, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

edit Penguin

I saw that you protected this page several months ago or so but should Anon's edits be reverted? Anton (talk) 10:09, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Your call; and the page is not protected against you but only against Anon. I would have seen the edits that Anon made eight hours before my move. I think I decided his latest edits, while not having a clear comedy direction, were not that bad. Spıke Ѧ 11:31 16-Jul-13
Oh, ok. I just did not know whether to revert them or not and decided that you knew better, as you protected the page. Then I will just mark them as patrolled. Anton (talk) 11:37, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

edit Cotswold Olimpick Games

Hi Spike, I notice that you have not added this to your user page as one of the articles you wrote (I may have missed it) despite the fact that you joint wrote it with me. Is this a mistake or do you not take credit for it? Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:11, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

A mere oversight. Ooh, you gave me half credit in the Hall of Shame! Spıke Ѧ 16:22 16-Jul-13
Well you did collaborate with me, it's only decent of me. Besides your wonderful intro set the tone for my content. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:56, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops. Mis-read. I thought it implied "two weeks earlier than the date that the reader is reading the article on." Thanks for the revert. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:32, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

edit Brit-slayer... we need to look into this

Its not vandalism anymore. I'd classify it as an obsession. The guy doesn't want to vandalize uncyclopedia (let me finish), he just hates the british. I mean, the "nya" guy (who kept making pages with the word nya), gave up (hopefully) after the second try. This guy keeps coming back. He, almost religiously, comes and posts his crap here. I'm not sure what to do, save rollback and ban-patrol him. Since he uses the same text, the exact words should be put into the abuse filter. --The Shield of Azunai DSA510My Edits! 05:13, July 18, 2013 (UTC)(Sorry if I seemed rambling in this post...)

Ironically his determination to continue when everyone else has moved on and thinks he is just sad is very British indeed. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:38, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
I understood there already was a filter set up for some of the text, but he may have changed a tiny feature that causes it to go unnoticed. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 11:19, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
The conversation is here. I assume AF7 is a type of filter. Sir Reverend P. Pennyfeather (fancy a chat?) CUN VFH PLS 11:26, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
On many days, you will see that his messages vary, and sometimes decrease by half. This binary method is the most efficient way for him to determine exactly what text I am matching on and modify the manifesto. He is expending enormous effort to have no lasting effect on the wiki. Spıke Ѧ 11:30 18-Jul-13
AF7 is Special:AbuseFilter/7 (Don't bother clicking on it). Spike sockpuppet (talk)
Sorry bit confused who is Spike the sockpuppet. Is that a legal sockpuppet you have Spike (if so why use it here?) or is it an intruder. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:01, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
It is someone SPIKE keeps locked in the basement. He must have left the key in again. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 08:20, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
I used it to see what garden-variety Uncyclopedians see when they try to view a non-public Abuse Filter--in order to tell you not to bother. Spıke Ѧ 12:11 19-Jul-13
PS--It got one this morning! Spıke Ѧ 12:49 19-Jul-13


May I...write an article about a recent account hacking thing? There are no specific people, but armorgames was down. It would be a nice change from the more serious UnNews articles and such. Thanks! --The Shield of Azunai DSA510My Edits! 04:37, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

You don't need permission to write anything (in fact you don't need permission to do nearly anything here) as long as it's not disruptive and it is in the spirit of HTBFANJS. Want to write...then write. Want to propose something new...make a forum. Want to improve bold and try it. You don't have to ask. Just do. --ShabiDOO 04:46, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
Well said. Nevertheless, an article or UnNews about mischief occurring at some other website would normally lack notability both to the typical writer and to the typical reader of Uncyclopedia. Something tells me that what you have is not a brilliant comedy concept but the recurring desire to show us that we are not your only website. An UnNews primarily designed to inform rather than entertain would be a change from the "serious" business of applying a funny take to a piece of real news that we hope the reader is familiar with, but not a nice one. You indeed don't need permission, but if you were instead asking for advice, my advice is to pick again. As you are familiar with the site, you might create an article on it (like Lucifuge's recent that puts a comedy spin on it. Spıke Ѧ 13:01 23-Jul-13
Please don't interpret my choice as me saying: "Other sites are interesting, this site sucks." I'm a very lampshady guy... which means I like to point out/ comment on things I see. But I'll write something soon. Love, --The Shield of Azunai DSA510My Edits! 01:36, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
Denza, read again carefully. I am not asking you for boosterism; only relevance to the reader. Spıke Ѧ 02:53 26-Jul-13

edit Jesus Penis

I'm flattered that you think I'm Mojo Nixon, If that were the case I'd have played toad in the Super Mario Bros movie. But no, I'm not Mojo Nixon. The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs)

You are mistaken to think I viewed your YouTube video. But I did delete your attempt to add it to a page, as this site does not exist so that you can advertise your video. Spıke Ѧ 13:01 23-Jul-13

edit FA Cap'n Crunch/The Last King of Scotland

Hi Spike. Congratulations on our feature, we finally got Cap'n to rise up in the World for once. Also thanks for voting for Last King of Scotland. Seeing as you rarely vote I must be privelaged or you must be drunk. Thanks. The preceding unsigned comment was added by ScottPat (talk • contribs)

Thanks! But I am not drunk, and you still can't spell. Spıke Ѧ 16:20 23-Jul-13
I don't admit to being good at spelling however I am surprised I forgot to sign my name! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:11, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

"Privelaged" [sic] must have been merely a reminder for me to proofread the other half of "Scotland"--as several of its VFH voters said it needed. Spıke Ѧ 18:30 23-Jul-13

edit Requests for Autopatrolled

Give Lakepoint autopatrolled....Isn't a spammer afaik. --The Shield of Azunai DSA510My Edits! 01:55, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed, but neither is he rip-roaringly funny. At the moment, he is confining his work to his own userspace, where you may certainly mark his edits Patrolled without detailed analysis. Spıke Ѧ 02:53 26-Jul-13

BlogsyQuenz Has gotten straight to work cleaning up errors in the site. Doesn't look like a spammer, and has potential for humor. --The Shield of Azunai DSA510My Edits! 01:38, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Mostly positive contributions; thank you for delivering praise. Simsie found one bad move (at 4chan). I'll keep an eye on him. Spıke Ѧ 12:39 29-Jul-13

edit Improving other articles

I have been reading the Uncyclopedia pages on all the countries of the world, and I noticed one happened to be missing: the United Kingdom. When you type in UK, there is a redirect to the page of Great Britain, which is an island that makes up a large portion of the UK. However, the article is written to describe the UK exactly (an island that constitutes a nation wouldn't have a prime minister, etc.), so I think this article needs a title change.

Another article I'd like to improve is that of Pokémon. The article has one paragraph that constantly repeats itself throughout the article, but it is uneditable (I know that's not a word). I'm sure other Uncyclopedia users and me could put together a pretty good article that actually contains more information, but this is impossible at the moment. Thanks Spike! --Chocolin (talk) 22:01, July 29, 2013 (UTC)Chocolin

On Great Britain, I agree with your comment on nomenclature. However, we only have the one article, and it doesn't bother me that "Great Britain" and "United Kingdom" point to the same text. If your point is that the wrong one is the redirect, it is valid. Would you please mention this to ScottPat, as he tends to have extremely strong ideas when it comes to GB and UK? Likewise if your point is that you'd like to write a second article with a different comedy take (which is explicitly allowed, and doesn't have to be consistent with the existing article).
Pokémon is presently a redirect to another page. It has been protected since 2008 so that only Admins can edit it. I have changed this protection so that you can make it something other than a redirect. However, please make it easy for readers who actually want to see the other page to get to it. Spıke Ѧ 04:28 30-Jul-13

The page that I was talking about that needed editing was the Pokémon (video games series) page. The same paragraph repeats over and over, and I think this could be a pretty good written article if it sprouted out of the paragraph and into other information. In my opinion, the redirect is good because we don't need to separate pages for Pokémon and Pokémon (video games series), since the franchise mainly is a video game series. I'm not sure if this page was originally written by an admin, but it still is locked from editing. Thanks Spike. --Chocolin (talk) 21:57, July 30, 2013 (UTC)Chocolin

Pokémon (video games series) was protected by departed Admin MrN9000 in April 2012. I find it tedious; the joke that Pokémon video games are distinguished mainly by having different signature colors and by nothing else, really does not have to be told 19 times. In his Change Summary in the Protection Log, he raises the possibility that a better article could be written, but wanted to see it done before letting his article be transformed. I tend to agree; tedious or not, it does what it is trying to do very well. If you have a different comedy strategy, I don't doubt that it will be better (or at least more diverse), but do pursue it in a separate page--for example, the now-editable Pokémon.
Separately, I appreciate your vote to feature Cap'n Crunch--but it ran last week. Spıke Ѧ 02:20 31-Jul-13

Thanks Spike. I might go ahead and do that, but I don't know if the articles I'm creating are good enough along the lines of humor! I feel dumb for not getting MrN9000's joke, and that makes the article have a pretty good humor strategy. Earlier, I mentioned the UK article, and found that ScottPat will not return from vacation until mid-August, so I guess I'll wait on that. If you have any sports, geography, or other articles that need completion or editing, I'd be happy to help! --Chocolin (talk) 03:10, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

A risk-free option is to click here: User:Chocolin/Pokémon. For other suggestions, you can browse Uncyclopedia:Requested Articles or peruse our articles on nations of the world, states of the US, and states of Mexico, for gaping quality holes. Boston Red Sox is an article that departed user Kamek98 began with the strategy of exploiting cheap puns, and on which I insisted that it had to reflect some of the club's history, but never finished the job. Spıke Ѧ 03:28 31-Jul-13

edit A question

Hello. I was recently blocked. I am wondering if I could have more info on why (specifically what I vandalised) The preceding unsigned comment was added by Phant0mhaX0r (talk • contribs)

Thank you for your inquiry. After typing the unhelpful, and unsigned, comment "Writer block is umm… er… let's just say meh" at Talk:Writer's block, you went to work on an actual article, Wikipedian, and I quote, "There is a reason why The Site Which Must Not Be Named has no spork label. It is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE spork." Together with a user page full of L33T, this struck me as vandalism and I banned you for 1 day. I also provided a detailed explanation along the same lines as this, at User talk:Phant0mhaX0r, plus reading suggestions for you. Spıke Ѧ 12:03 2-Aug-13

edit QVFD

Spike, sorry, but could you, please, delete UnSignpost/Template:News (but it is a redirect page) and restore Uncyclopedia:UnSignpost_Template? Maybe I posted it the wrong way on the QVFD. Anton (talk) 19:21, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Done. The reason the rules call for you to use {{Redirect}} on UN:QVFD is to keep us from clicking through it to the page redirected to. Spıke Ѧ 20:39 4-Aug-13
Ok, thanks. I will always double-check the pages I post there. By the way, I was on an unexpected leave for two days and I hope that today I will finish everything concerning the formatting. Anton (talk) 09:27, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
No rush. However, I am baffled that the UK and Russia seem to have been annexed by France so that everyone has the entire month of August on vacation. Spıke Ѧ 15:54 7-Aug-13
Do you mean Reverend? I actually did not know he was leaving in France. I thought he only had some relatives there.
And what do you think about this? (The articles are from the Wikipedia Signpost, so just look at the formatting. Anton (talk) 17:58, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
It's attractive; and it probably makes a lot more sense for us to mimic (and track) Wikipedia rather than the Fork. A couple years ago, UnNews was re-skinned to continue to imitate Wikinews. However, the word UnSignpost is annoyingly large; I think humor should be achieved by funny writing, not by large lettering. Also, the date of the articles seems to be coded as a section heading at the same level as the headline itself, which should not be the case. Spıke Ѧ 18:10 7-Aug-13

Ok, thanks. There is actually another problem to fix (except the two you mentioned): the newspaper can fold itself (see my talk page "test") but cannot get unfolded. Then delivering it makes no sense, if the readers won't have a mean to open it. Anton (talk) 19:25, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

I finished this current issue and am planning to deliver it tomorrow. The only problem is that it does not fold itself (I fixed the first problem - the fact that it could not unfold itself). But this is impossible of the formatting is similar to Wikipedia's, and I don't think we really need this. You can write an article for the next issue (if there is anything to talk about), as I agree with you on the newsworthiness of recent events. Anton (talk) 19:55, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
May I explain Spike's joke: The French are famous for their holiday routine in which every single Frenchman decides to take a holiday at the same time in August so that France basically closes down for a month. He presumed that because the Russians and Brits on this site have their holiday in August that they must be turning French. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:19, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, now I get it. Spike probably found my comment extremely stupid. I was baffled by the word "annexed" the meaning of which I did not know well. Thanks for explaining! Anton (talk) 20:21, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

edit Token ban for Denza

Spike, Denza is upset by his ban even though it is rather short. This is what he said exactly: "I just wanted to direct the user to an admin, but I now realize that I should have linked him to UN:AA". So he is sorry and asks you if you can unban him, please! Anton (talk) 19:00, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, UN:AA is exactly the right way to do it. The system is not letting me unblock Denza, so he will have to wait another 3 minutes. Spıke Ѧ 19:49 13-Aug-13
Should have used UN:AA, I'll remember that next time. --The Sieger of Dungeons Lord Denza Aetherwing Inventory 19:57, August 13, 2013 (UTC)(shiny new sig!)
Everyone should; and if you agree with me, vote with me at VFD, where I have nominated this piece of Performance Art for deletion. Spıke Ѧ 20:04 13-Aug-13

edit UnSignpost Subscription

Just wanted to tell you that after V V I P's comments, I made another option for the UnSignpost subsrcibers: from now on they can choose to only receive a link to the new issue and the news summary (like on Wikipedia). I am just informing you, so you do not have to react to this in any way. Anton (talk) 16:18, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

This is a very good idea. Having the UnSignpost be a template means that, although it does not increase the character count of people's talk pages, it vastly increases the character count of their talk pages as rendered. Even to select the correct section of an infrequent editor's talk page on which to comment, I have to download the complete text of all UnSignposts since he last archived each page! This is a concern for those of us on slow and metered Internet links. I would like this option to become the default (though I am not "voting" for this, as it isn't my talk page and I don't read it by subscription). Spıke Ѧ 16:28 15-Aug-13
Thank you for your opinion! I will go and include my and V V I P's names to the second list! Anton (talk) 16:31, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

edit User:Reverend P. Pennyfeather's block

Spike, don't you think that a two week block is a bit much for being drunk and mis-spelling votes on VFH (or as the Reverend now calls it "VHF"). As far as I can tell he hasn't done anything bad to this site, so wouldn't a shorter block be better? Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 05:50, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

PS - It was exam results day over here in England and Wales, which may explain his drunkeness (depression or celebration). I find it slightly amusing he started correcting spelling to British English from American English when usually he distances himself away from me when I do that (and not even I go as far as he did!) but in all in all he's only drunk for one night so I don't think he ought to have that long a block. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:07, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Yikes! I meant two hours, not two weeks, as evidenced by my comment that he sleep it off, and not Rip Van Winkle style! You are right to object. Fixed now, and let me blame force-of-habit. Spıke Ѧ 11:10 16-Aug-13


You again. *sigh*...

Do you know anyone who knows about NASCAR? I worked hard on that page, don't want it deleted... The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aaronaraujo2013 (talk • contribs)

I don't think the article is at risk of being deleted, but more content is always better. Good move to call for help on the article's talk page. On the present page, it is always going to be "me again." No Uncyclopedians who are also NASCAR fans have advertised that fact. Spıke Ѧ 20:24 17-Aug-13

edit UnBooks:My Summer Vacation in Saudi Arabia

On the nomination I responded to your against vote. Are you voting against it because you think it should be in some other namespace. I ought to be in unbooks. --ShabiDOO 20:25, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

I do think it would be better in UnBooks; but I also think the function of the main page is to showcase our "encyclopedia" identity and not the fact that we have good writers doing relatively unrelated things. Spıke Ѧ 20:29 17-Aug-13
In this period of one against vote usually kills a's a pity that one users idiosyncratic view trumps. But we have to respect it. --ShabiDOO 22:03, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
It doesn't seem idiosyncratic to hold that the Uncyclopedia main page showcase Uncyclopedia rather than individuals. But I have suggested to the editors that the next UnSignpost flog the question of whether my opinion is "namespace bias" as is prohibited in VFH and what, if anything, should be done about it. Repeating a previous conversation in response to a complaint of Anton199, it is not one vote against that is fatal but persistent lack of votes in favor. Spıke Ѧ 22:09 17-Aug-13
PS--Are you a car-racing fan? If so, see immediately preceding section. Spıke Ѧ 22:11 17-Aug-13
The feature page was set up...from the show case the best of the best of uncyclopedia. This has...over the years of its existance included all sub projects which parody wikipedias projects. Based on the voting patterns of nearly all users in the last so and so years...the community clearly, openly and welcomly voted to feature non mainspace articles. The only exception I can think of was when there were four or five unnews in one week...and I believe the dissenters were often over-ruled by the votes of the rest of the community anyways. I could count on my hands the amount of times I've seen users openly vote down an UnProject article because it wasn't mainspace. And even then...that featured mainspace articles should be thoroughly "encyclopedic" is an issue that I have never ever heard mentioned in votes or on forums about the vision of uncyclopedia. Perhaps there are a few rare moments or there were some of those before I came here.
I suppose if users became more active in voting against articles that didn't meld with their vision of the wiki...then indeed there would be more articles featured despite votes against and perhaps more balance. Perhaps we should all become more proactive by letting users know our own visions of the wiki and voting in kind. Not a bad idea considering the lack of users. Now is a great time to openly carve out a vision that emcompases how all the remaining and new users see the future uncyclopedia fork here. Great time for change.
Sorry...I don't know anything about NASCAR except for how southpark parodied them. It was an okay episode. --ShabiDOO 02:14, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Spike that 1 vote does not kill an article. I have had a few featured recently with one and even two votes against (some of those votes against coming from both you and Spike). As for whether an UnBooks can be featured it is a dilema. You don't won't to spoil the parody effect of the front page but I reckon that chances are you'd have got the joke before you get to the front page because most people find it through article pages.
By the way what happened to the content warning as I no longer get it. Is it gone finally? Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 06:36, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
Wikia removed it after a discussion with the admins on this website. Regards VFH, the issue of voting against an article has been a long running issue that pre-dates the schism. I see no problem with people voting against an article. Regards whether an article should be 'encyclopedic', 'navelistic' or personal ('The Day My Fridge Ate the Postman' type story) is up to the people who are active on this site. I have my own preferences but when it comes to VFH it is a matter of drumming up enough support. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 08:22, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but isn't it this: "Articles from all namespaces (including UnNews, UnTunes, HowTo, UnBooks, etc.) are eligible for VFH. Votes against articles based on namespace prejudice will be discarded"? Anton (talk) 13:45, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Now see Forum:Namespace prejudice. Spıke Ѧ 13:55 18-Aug-13

edit UnNews:Russia makes prison time a prerequisite for voting

Thank you very much for proofreading my UnNews! However, I changed some of the sentences back, as probably you did not fully understand my concept. So, if you want to know more about Russian politics, here is some information:

  • Alexey Navalny is the greatest opposition leader in Russia right now (the greatest, because of the amount of his supporters and because of his actions against the government, and not because I like him the most). He is known for criticizing the government's actions openly. This is why he got arrested. This is not my opinion, this is just that all the evidence got falsified and after taking a close look at all the process, it will become obvious that he is innocent. So I am not parodying him but the government.
  • I did not name the sponsor, knowing that the law is fake, which is another aspect of my concept: I parodied all the silly and pointless laws that the government made recently and another reason for not talking who the sponsor was, is that anyone from the government could be him.
  • Finally, I did not want to annoy the reader with many Russian political details (what I am currently doing now) but I wrote about Alexey Navalny, knowing that his verdict became very famous outside Russia and caused a lot of people from different countries to express their opinion on the Russian democracy. I am not sure whether you know this or not, but the press (not the Russian one) even associated Navalny with Nelson Mandela.

Thank you for your attention and sorry to bother you with all this! Anton (talk) 14:20, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

No, I did not want to know more about Russian politics. I just wanted it to read like a news story, which means it must open with what just happened, not how what happened was conceived. Failing to state the law's sponsor seriously detracts from the resemblance to news. What you should do instead is contrive an explanation for how the law's sponsor was unknown or unavailable.
"This is why he got arrested" is of course your opinion, as arrests in Russia do not correspond exactly to transgressions. You are welcome to describe this arrest as a reprisal, but you should do it delicately and with irony--not add a footnote saying essentially that people who don't come to your conclusion aren't paying attention. This feels like advocacy. It always works to have the "writer of the article" be credulous and repeat the explanations of Government without questioning them, even though the reader will. Spıke Ѧ 14:34 18-Aug-13

What I said in the UnNews is "People who disagree with the verdict did not study the affair closely) which is irony, as actually those with it are people who studied the affair closely. And thank you for your criticism: I will include the reason for which the sponsor is unknown. Anton (talk) 14:37, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

edit Cupar, the UnSignpost and your talkpage

Do you think the article needs more work? I think that I did all I could. Anton (talk) 20:35, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

It is now in good shape, but not yet remarkable enough for the main page. The challenge on a VFD save is not to produce the best possible article. If that is your goal, I had a look at the Wikipedia article and there is material about history and commerce that might be sporked and ridiculed. Spıke Ѧ 20:58 18-Aug-13

I was actually not planning to feature it. But if it is good, I can add history and commerce and maybe nominate it. Anton (talk) 09:52, August 19, 2013 (UTC) There will be too much small sections on your talkpage, if I keep on creating new ones every time I have a question, so I just decided to post this here:

  • Please, could you take a look at at this forum and vote, if you care about the UnSignpost format?
  • Do you know that before the contents of your talkpage are downloaded completely, there is the Uncyclopedia logo which appears at the upper left corner right where Spike the Dog's head is and disappears immediately? This gives the body of the dog and the Halloween Pumpkin at the top, because the is not enough time to notice that it is a potato. Anton (talk) 17:42, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
I've been told that. I should not dabble in these tricks, as my screen dimensions are very non-standard. Spıke Ѧ 21:28 19-Aug-13

edit Promising new Uncyclopedians

Could you, please, make Tyrone McGee autopatrolled? His edits are very good and he is adopted by Scott, so they will get reviewed anyway. Thanks. Anton (talk) 19:13, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Not yet. He aroused my suspicion by making a bee-line for Cunt and Masturbation (sport), and his Sir Swagsalot article, even after renaming, makes me regard him as part of a recent trio (with The TwaFFs and Kody-the-Fox) of promising new Uncyclopedians who have not yet bought into the idea of writing articles that "encyclopedia" readers will actually search for. Spıke Ѧ 21:28 19-Aug-13
I agree that it is not the most encyclopedic however for a first article it is very promising. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 22:15, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, fine. Anton (talk) 11:38, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Chaoarren or Theluseichronicler would be counted in that trio instead because I looked at Kody-the-Fox's contributions and logs, and he was registered in 2009, but rather a possible comeback of him. This correction would be that the recent trio of articles that have not yet bought into the idea of writing good articles (at the time) would include Tyrone McGee, The TwaFFs, and Theluseichronicler (or Chaoarren). Newman66 Visit my table here! Contributions My works 00:15, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
I did not say any of the above don't try to "writ[e] good articles," only that they had not bought into the concept of writing about real things that someone might look for in a real encyclopedia. However, we'll split the difference and give Autopatrolled to none of them. Spıke Ѧ 00:26 31-Aug-13
Where did this "encyclopedic" meme come from? The articles in question may be stupid and should be deleted...but that doesn't mean we should tell writers what to write about and how to write and tell them that readers expect to read uncyclopedic articles and things that are real...this is a fringe view and totally and utterly new to me. As long as they don't break HTBFANJS they can create whatever they like. --ShabiDOO 02:53, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
I think Spike just is refering to the fact that as a parody of an encyclopedia we must put on the most decent impression of an encyclopedia and then ruin the encyclopedic nature of an article with jokes in images and writing. The best impressionists are the ones with the best accents but say ridiculous things. That means that if the article at first glance doesn't look like something of wikipedia (without reading it) it looks like a poor impression. The only exeption are funny one-joke articles like Enigma Code and such which have a funny enough joke to comprimise the encyclopedic looking nature of the article. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:59, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

edit I'm continuing to work on my userspaced articles.

I am working on all my userspaced articles that I have planned so far. One of them include Afghan rubber duck, which I have planned since my first times here, although I haven't made the content live up until just now. Newman66 Visit my table here! Contributions My works 21:26, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

edit C@ptcha actions

I'm pretty sure there are c@ptcha triggering actions. Just a few hours ago when I was editing my user page it asked me to enter a c@ptcha(twice actually) because a script detected I may have been linkspamming because I entered several external links. On another note, why do people say c@ptcha instead of ca.ptcha? I say it as c@ptcha here because there may be some serious reason to :P Jirachi8932 (talk) 18:27, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

No, you would have triggered an Abuse Filter that I wrote to minimize such edits. (As I told you, it is all right on your user page.) A c@ptcha is where you see some really ugly typesetting and describe what you see to prove that you are a human, and I don't think we use these still. The reason people write it like that is that writing it normally probably triggers one of them. Spıke Ѧ 18:42 26-Aug-13

edit Great Library of Alexandria

Spike, you magnificent beast!...Hello, and I'll be around for another hour or so. Is the warning label gone???!!! It hasn't been on the last several times I've logged on, and I have my toes, fingers, and other things crossed. Every time I log on you have been hard at work. This is Spike-Year for sure (and I am seriously impressed and institutionally grateful for what you've done since the split). Another item, can we transfer GLoAlexandria over to the other site? It's featurable there as well, I would think. "No site is an Island, entire of itself" said Joey No-Thumbs. Aleister 17:48 27-8-'13

The warning sign has gone for good after a Costa Rican stand off. What is GLoAlexandria? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:00, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
Seriously???!!! Very nice to hear that, thanks. It was a horrid part of uncyclopedia history, and well worth relagation to the dustbin of said history. Great Library of Alexandria would be the GLoAlexandria in question. I'll try to be here more, I have a little more internet access but still need an upgrade of that access. We shall see. Thanks! Aleister 18:04 that day
Bit of a problem as that includes edits by many hands since the split. Without asking everybody involved, I can't see how it can be done for now. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 18:10, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
Just looked at the history, and it's only myself, yourself, Spikeself, and Msnbc and Mr.N (mnbvcxz has already said to transfer his pages over, and MrN wouldn't mind since he is there - but has been missing in action for awhile. I have the backstory on that but can't tell it, damn). So if you (Romartus) and Spike are okay with it....? Aleister 18:16 that day
Not sure how the actual warning went but when it did it took a while to take seriously. As the dominant user in the campaign to get rid of it, I congratulate you Al. As another bonus the only thing that wikia ever did that affected this site is gone so no ones got an excuse to blame them now. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:48, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the compliments, Aleister. No, I do not consent to it. Spıke Ѧ 00:33 28-Aug-13
Fair enough, and I understand and expected you to say no. Staying on principle, which is one of the most valuable things you've done for this site since January. I don't get serious enough with you, but I've told Funnybony and others that you saved this site by protecting it and by bringing along new writers who should thank their lucky stars to have someone like you giving them advice. OK, enough seriousness. Woo woo, clown dances, woo woo, penguins doing stuff! Aleister 18:15 31-8-'13

edit Americanizing [sic.] the Atheist Alliance of America article

Hola Spike! (No hemos discutado discutido cosas en espanol recientemente!) Thanks for your suggestion on VFH about Americanising the spelling of the article. I have heeded your wisdom and attempted to translate as much as possible. However I am certainly not fluent in your dialect and therefore struggle greatly. Not sure whether the official US word for "car" is "automobile" because everyone said that where I lived but some use the word "car." Also this may sound daft but should I use Old English measurements instead of metric ones or is that going too far? I have done as much as I can but could you just check over please. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:07, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

"Car" is fine in the US. Search globally for "organis" and you will be halfway to Americanizing this. Also, then, search for "however" and prove you took something from our conversation on run-on sentences. Then run it through a spell-checker, as you should have done before nominating it. Then I will look at it. Spıke Ѧ 00:33 28-Aug-13
I've done all the "organis." Commas in front of "howevers," God that's being pedantic, however I shall comply (see what I did there!). Oh and...of course I...umm...ran it through a spell checker (like I always do!). Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 22:04, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
Spell-check find anything, then? It is not pedantic commas; it is the fact that most of your "howevers" take the place of what should be a full stop. Spıke Ѧ 22:12 28-Aug-13
Last I knew, "however," was a conjuction and in English conjunctions join two clauses and therefore do not need commas next to them as it's bloomin' obvious that two clauses have been joined. As for spell-check nothing came up so I think I am all done now. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:49, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
The problem is that you are not joining two conjunctions but two sentences: "I don't happen to agree with the opposing view however I have a right to let him/her speak it." This should be: "I don't happen to agree with the opposing view. However, I have a right to let him/her speak it." Yes, I added a comma as well. The former is verbal incontinence. Spıke Ѧ 13:32 29-Aug-13

To that I simply quote:

"I take it you already know

Of tough and bough and cough and dough?

Others may stumble, but not you

On hiccough, thorough, slough, and through.

Well don't! And now you wish, perhaps,

To learn of less familiar traps.

Beware of heard, a dreadful word

That looks like beard but sounds like bird.

And dead: it's said like bed, not bead,

For goodness sake don't call it deed!

Watch out for meat and great and threat

(They rhyme with suite and straight and debt).

A moth is not a moth as in mother

Nor both as in bother, nor broth as in brother,

And here is not a match for there,

Nor dear and fear, for bear and pear.

And then there's dose and rose and lose--

Just look them up--and goose and choose

And cork and work and card and ward

And font and front and word and sword

And do and go, then thwart and cart,

Come, come! I've hardly made a start.

A dreadful Language? Why man alive!

I learned to talk it when I was five.

And yet to write it, the more I tried,

I hadn't learned it at fifty-five. "

My favourite poem! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 14:00, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

edit Forum:Namespace prejudice

I missed that you asked a question in there about striking your own votes, and it appears that I'm not the only one who missed it. My perspective - and Shabby's based upon his recent edits there - suggest that you shouldn't. If you have already done this though, I probably wouldn't change it again unless it's a passionately held view. Sleeping dogs are liars, or something.                               Puppy's talk page12:46 29 Aug 2013

I did not strike my votes. If the voters are serious about this sentence in the instructions, I will do so for the sake of completeness. However, everyone but you went off on a tangent, and before reading your post here, I went there and tried to reset the debate. Spıke Ѧ 01:25 29-Aug-13
LOL. Your own speech at the beginning of the forum is a much longer tangent that anyone elses and once again a chance to speculate about the fork. LOL --ShabiDOO 02:40, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
Yep. I misunderstood the original premise. Wasn't thinking about the fork while I wrote though, so that may be in the mind of the reader, not writer.                               Puppy's talk page03:57 29 Aug 2013

I opened that Forum in fairness to Shabidoo; I voted against one of his pieces and wanted to know the status of this rule that says I should not have. But Shabidoo is too busy voting against me in that Forum to realize that he is espousing the exact same opinion as mine. My "much longer tangent" was to present the entire context before calling for a vote, and his crack about the fork refers to my introductory mention that those who revel in not being bound by the encyclopedia, or most other criteria for writing engaging pieces, have mostly found their own home. "Aha! You mentioned the Fork!" If we were face-to-face, this would surely be followed by, "That makes you a h-h-hypocrite!!!" In short, he is too intent on trolling to notice the wide areas of agreement. Spıke Ѧ 13:15 29-Aug-13

Rule number two SPIKE...rule number two. --ShabiDOO 17:07, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

After a long debate on the morals of democracy I think that your opinions have a good chance of getting through now. However as another user and friend I would just like to remind you that you ought not vote against every single "alternative" namespace article based on namespace prejudice as we ought to allow some once in a while (especially if they're good!). Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 12:21, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the support Spike, I think they got the point of putting personal tastes into the rules, I'd brought that up a while back, now Anton insists that these personal tastes are correct and better than anyone elses which I rebuttled by pointing out how very undemocratic that was. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:39, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Scott, thank you very much for misinterpreting my words in order to back up your point which has changed several times during this debate. What I think, is that we ought to give as much freedom as we can, unless we harm anyone by this. Now we are about to harm people by providing a legal opportunity to make their nominations fail. Anton (talk) 14:02, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

So you only care about the people who nominated the article? Like I said favouring one opinion. Not sure that my view has ever changed. I supported people voting whatever they wanted in the first place (without prejudice and I still do). You fail to come up with a better alternative than democracy so I think I have the best solution so far. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:24, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

If anyone votes against something, he ought to provide a reason for it. Like this, the nominator can improve on the article and so the voter can change his or her vote. Or not, but the article will still become better. If a person votes against something based on the fact that it is not if a certain namespace (not because the article suits that namespace well, but because the namespace itself is being discriminated against), he gives the nominator no chance to make his article better and puts down his nomination. Anton (talk) 17:43, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Some users feel SO STRONG about some articles that no critique will help the author change the article or keep the user from voting against. Blanket-against-voting might be controversial (and harsh when there are only eight voters) but at least in the history of one has ever been OBLIGED to provide reasons for their votes (unless it was disruptive). --ShabiDOO 18:11, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
To Anton: Good and evil, right and wrong are just human perceptions of something. The Universe does not have definite rights and wrongs therefore how do you know that namespace prejudice isn't good for Uncyclopedia? Some people may hate those articles (example of a reason: because they are un-encyclopedic) and want them to fail so to them that is a justified reason in the cause of righteusnous (can't spell that). By not allowing them to make those articles fail you are destroying their rights to pick what they feel is right just because you share a different opinion. You cannot opionate the rules! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:42, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
I agree, except that, for the umpteenth time, my opinion--that our main page should not demand that the new reader understand both our core concept and our fringe projects--is not a desire for any " fail."
PS--I do not know what ScottPat means by "opionate" above, though I have read that Opionate is the religion of the masses. Spıke Ѧ 20:11 30-Aug-13
Sorry I meant in the sense of bias. I also infered that namespace prejudice leading to failure is a random person's belief and is not meant to reflect any specific person's beliefs. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:24, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

edit Forum:Second World War Community Project

What do you think of this Spike. Good idea or bad idea? Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:02, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Our WW2 coverage only gets serious when pre-teens think it would be a good idea to extrapolate to WW3, WW8000, and WW∞. I have no particular expertise to apply to this task, but Romartus probably does. Spıke Ѧ 20:11 30-Aug-13
Thanks. I'm sure knowing you that you will contribute anyway in some form (probably grammar corrections). I'll ask Romartus. I understand WW3 may emerge but if this site could produce the best possible WW2 article we could that is encyclopedic (retains the basic storyline of WW2) but extremely funny we may be able to get it featured and then protect it from vandals. Thanks for the support! Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:16, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

edit Game:LRPG5

Hi, I'm an old user who makes returns sometimes to work on various projects for fun. A few months ago I started working on Game:LRPG5 and left a note saying I may not edit it for a while but will sometimes feel like returning. But after a couple of weeks of not editing it, it was deleted still. I recently posted here and was told I could ask you to bring back my project. If you could that would be really awesome. But, once again I might not edit it all the time and it could go over a month before I feel creative again. Is that okay or is that going to get it deleted again? But thanks ahead of time if you can help me out!

PS. I have a problem where I can't edit my signature without confirming my email and even when I do confirm my email I still can't edit my signature.

Edit: Sorry but it actually turns out that only the front page of the game was deleted so that's all good but can I still have some assurance that it won't be deleted again?

---Da man360Talk HAPPY 20:32, 31 August 2013! 20:32, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

The construction tag only covers your article for a week before deletion. To ensure the game won't be deleted (if it is incomplete) move all your pages of the game to userspace until they are finished and then you can move them back to mainspace. Dp you understand how to do that? Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:40, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

edit Moving trouble

When I found out that there already was a page for 'Iphone', I tried to move my version to my own userspace. But instead, I managed to create an userpage of a non-existant user. So, could you delete User:Iphone and also the redirect that I left? (Saddex (talk) 21:05, August 31, 2013 (UTC))

Spike's doing something now. I think it's still daytime in US so I'll get it done for you. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:10, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

edit Southern United States

Hi Spike. I have taken the task of re-writing this article after Anton nominated it for VFD. I am not fully aware of up-to-date American culture and customs and so would appreciate it if you could fill in the "National Heros" section of the infobox with some terrible American cartoon characters or anything else you would think to be appropriate. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:44, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

For a cartoon character, File:Pogo 1.gif may be helpful. I wished y'all luck at VFD and will chip in. Spıke Ѧ 13:06 3-Sep-13
Spike, thanks for history section write up. Very funny. However you missed out the fact I had already started a history section. I'll combine the two. Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 14:21, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
ScottPat, I just reverted you (without Change Summary because JavaScript widget didn't take)--Changing "tobacco" to "Tobasco" [sic] replaced relevance with nonsense and broke the point of the paragraph. Spıke Ѧ 17:20 3-Sep-13
Isn't it more original talking about Tobasco (produced in Louisiana) than tobacco. It's a joke where you say something the reader doesn't expect. Is there a way you can fit it in some other way? Sir ScottPat (talk) White Ensign Scotland Flag 1 Compassrose VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:47, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
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