User:Happytimes/Zzz/2009Q4-4of8

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Greetings and Salutations random user who is looking at my talk page archives for some reason.
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edit Hey man you've been busy!

I had a look at the stuff you've written. Do you intend to use the legal templates for it at some point? I mean, it looks a bit heavy now with the red text and all that, and would probably make a better impression with Zana's stuff - at least would look more like a legal document. Of course you do what you like but I think a long red text is really hard to read. Which boils down to: people will read it more if it's in black, blue, or grey. I wasn't paying attention - only the headers are red. Looks OK, very important to the reader when they're red. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 06:42, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, about that, the bottom stuff was just to look all leagally although I think it worked out pretty well for now... I'll probably put it on a sub-page later on when I can devote more than equal time to this project. I haven't EVEN gotten my user pages where I want them yet, lot's of work there! Anypath, I'll add the template soon, as soon as I figure out the flow of the page. Once we officially launch UnLegal I'll add a "legal" jump link to my main page template as well.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  06:57, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Another thing: you filed a complaint and I opened the case - but I have an accusation of my own! How do you plead? Here: Uncyclopedia Legal Department/Happytimes vs Multiliteralist. My idea now is that we work this thing up into something resembling a court case and in the end, use templates where needed to make it look legal. Also, don't forget to add your own affidavit about the legal fees going over the top. After that we can wing it, adding §:s and whatnots, basically also write a law or statute or whatever on signatures and legal fees both. And link that as a reference to the case. And cash in on that of course. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 06:32, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah here's what I think we'll do: first file our affidavits (I did mine already) and you file yours. I then respond to your accusation, and you respond to mine - all as affidavits. Then we continue countering each others' accusations until it looks like a totally ridiculous mess, you know: "Yeah but he had no call to use my sig!" vs "He gets paid such a large fee so of course I used his sig!" -- we can use legalese or plain language, whichever looks funny. Then write up a transcript of the actual court session in the end, in one of our userspaces, and publish the whole as a case. Should be quite good. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 06:38, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Maybe if you used more flowery and businesslike language in your affidavits and I went the other way? Which do you like - I can do either, just let me know. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 06:40, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Wow! You type fast....  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  06:47, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
You too. Occurred to me - let's leave the sigs out of the affidavits - will look more legal. OK? I'll do some other stuff now - add the fee accusation again as another affidavit if you like. Then the Dept. will strike it later and gives "reasons undisclosed" as a reason. Everyone gets the joke and if they don't, we'll file a fucking complaint. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 06:51, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Yeah looks far better without sig. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 06:53, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
"file a fucking complaint" - lol, yes!
Yes, better without the official/normal sig but the time stamp is good! (Even if we fake it when we don't log on for a few days.) Looks like we need to make up official unlegal sigs now: "User:Happytimes/UnLegSigHeil" or some such. Possibly even: "User:Happytimes/UnLegSigHeil/Defender" "User:Happytimes/UnLegSigHeil/Prosecutor" "/Judge" "/Witness" "/Pimp" "/Guilty Party" etc.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  07:43, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
...and in the end, when the transcript is ready, we'll move it to the Case page where the affidavits now are, and make another page for the affidavits. Doesn't need to be in any way like real life cases are, as long as it looks somehow bureaucratic. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 06:56, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Hey! the case I filled was about you making more money than me (plus a rather clever comment in the summary I might add)!
But I see your point, lets go ahead and bring the argument around to money ~ you're now loosing revenue because I've diluted your name brand or some such. Now the royalty checks are less because of music/video type pirating by me. Intellectual property rights.... Ah, the ideas are endless. Plus love. Love will set me free. lol.
Money terms can be in bits, half pence, wooden nickles, ABC Gum, etc.
And of course you are right about the templates and formatting and such! This will be fun.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  07:10, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
As for the flowery and businesslike language, I really don't care. I mostly just write on the fly.
By the way, I have no legal background _at all_ so I pretty much have to fake it all the way through. That red & black on my legal page; sporked & re-edited. But I think I can wing it pretty well. I'll probably end up learning Latin and tax lingo along the way.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  07:20, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Yeah but really the red header/black text scheme looks good in a document where the reader should be scared of someone trying to steal from him. Maybe we should use Zana's template scheme where we are trying to rob them. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 07:14, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Ha!
Also, how do I add a link to lead to a specific header in an article? Will be useful later when we have laws and §:s and need to link to them from other documents. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 07:16, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
The best way is to jump to it from the Table Of Contents from a page. When you jump from the TOC copy the last bit of the link after your http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/ ... Once you've done that a couple of times you will see how easy it's done. (And if you're ambitious, do on the fly.)
If you look at my posts in Zana's talk page ((Newb Antagonist), etc.) you can see how they are linked there as well. ((The only problem with this method is if someone changes the text of a heading, or if someone takes part of the page and archives it (like on Zana's tp) then you have to go back & re-edit the link to make it work. (As I've done on Zana's tp.))  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  07:25, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Testing, works. OK, I suspected something like that. We'll just have to trust nobody changes the law without permission from the Dept. If they do, it's suing time again. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 07:56, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


Hey, you need to add a cross-complaint about my sig on the Uncyclopedia Legal Department/Complaints as well.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  08:11, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
You lost me - quickest if you add it in my name. Hey what's the new page doing on QVFD? -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 08:33, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
OK, check this out Uncyclopedia Legal Department/Complaints & update what I wrote for you.
QVFD, huh? I don't see it, link please.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  08:49, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Ah, & now it's gone... ~~ Hums theme song to Jeopardy ~~ and now it's back talk?  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  09:02, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Or back here maybe? I am so confuseded.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  09:10, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


Also, maybe we could start scripting the actual court session transcript. Whom could we ask to act as judge and jury? Makes more goodies if there's one more I think. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 08:34, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
I agree, the more the better.
I have no idea who to ask.... We may want to see about scheduling a "court date" anyway as I have to go to bed to go to work tomorrow and probably won't be back in force until this weekend.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  08:37, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Arite - I'll ask someone and meanwhile set up the session template and what else I can come up with. Nice to see you enjoy the idea like I do. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 08:39, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Yeah this is great fun, cheers!  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  08:49, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
For some reason the case is back on QFVD again - don't do anything, I have a backup of it in my userspace, I will recreate it if someone throws it away now. Might be some glitch somewhere but it's easier to go the other way than mix everyone into it. -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 10:11, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Well it's not there now and... wait a minute... (<-- go left some)

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... So. Well it's not there now. Sad I am.(By the way I never requested it to go to QVFD or QFVD or anything.)
Put up a link where you have it now so I can edits its toos pleases. Thank.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  05:15, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
Uncyclopedia_Legal_Department/Case:Happytimes_vs_Multiliteralist restored. I now have nothing to say but you could perhaps accuse me of moving the page and editing it in secret? -- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 09:29, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
On the other hand - we can always make that into a new case if nobody else complains. Let's let Zana judge and jury us now, I think? I think a good idea is to construct the court session somewheres before putting it on the case page, since proper mogrifeid legalese seems to get better with more sessions. Also, around the session itself there might occur some spots for unnecessary extra decoration like "The session was conducted according to (blah blah blah §8) and then, if in the mood for it, actually create said (blah blah blah §8) somewhere to be linked. OK - I'll make the construction page User:Multiliteralist/Multi_vs_Happy1.-- Style Oranssiviiva Guide 07:13, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. -- I wrote some stuff on the page but it's mostly just some notes at this point, when I have more time I'll unhide it & post it. (Please don't respond until I unhide it fo sho')... Let me know where the construction page is.  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!* Happytimes.gif (talk) (stalk) Π   ~ Xkey280 ~  08:11, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
Done.


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