Kwanzaa (history, logs)

Article: Kwanzaa

Score: 17.5 fool celebrants

Nominated by: Aleister
For: 18.5
  1. Symbol for vote For and Nom This is one of those rare instances when an article is VFD'd and someone says "Feature", and they put it on feature. Read it yourself. I have no idea who wrote it. Aleister 15:19 19-5-'12
  2. Symbol for vote For. This was rewritten by an IP. You heard correctly, an anonymous IP! --Pwn head Sir Xam Ralco the Mediocre 15:21, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
  3. For. Convinced me, Dawg! Funnybony Icons-flag-th Agnideva-small.jpg AGT-logo-small.jpg 18:17, May 19
  4. For. Why is this on VFD? ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 22:44, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Symbol for vote For. ShabiDOO 01:23, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
  6. For. --Roman Dog Bird (talk) 03:04, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
  7. Symbol for vote For. I understand and I wish to continue. HauntedUndies2. 11:29, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
  8. For. Sir Georgie Harangue Mediocracy 15:12, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
  9. Symbol for vote For. YEAH! BLACK POWER! Matthlock Bernie Soundgarden 800px-Flag of Moldova.svg Talal of Jordan Lionel Hutz 800px-Flag of India svg Dafydd el Gordon-gekko-from-wall-street 600px-Flag of Romania.svg Idi Amin Angryblackman Flag of Andorra LOTL-11 Have-you-seen-this-boy 800px-Flag of Nicaragua.svg Blue Öyster Cult Kurt Demmler 1989 The Honorable Flag of Quebec 20:36, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
  10. Symbol for vote For. From the guy who put it carelessly on VFD :/ -- Alpha Quintesson (talk) 20:52, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
  11. Symbol for vote For. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 00:41, 21 May 2012
  12. For. RS (talk) 04:46, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
  13. Sure. Black Flamingo 20:24, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
  14. For. I was ready to dismiss it as an over-done joke, but it's actually pretty damn hilarious. 22:02, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
  15. For. MamboCalamari (talk) 22:12, May 21, 2012 (UTC)MamboCalamari MamboCalamari (talk) 22:12, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
  16. For. Hide08 (talk) 23:49, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
  17. For. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 23:56, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
  18. For. 00:29, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
  19. For. Sweet Potato (talk) 03:12, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
Against: 1
  1. Against. In my ungarnished 'onion', I don't see it as a feature. LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 13:12, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
  • Does anyone mind if I just remove the first heading and _NOTOC_ from the top of the page? --Qzekrom sig trans Sir CuteReshiramOnTheRadio [CUNPBJ'12PLS(0)] 21:27, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
    • Removing the first heading is a good idea, I did so per your idea. I think it should have the notoc code, because without it it has this huge template and seems to disrupt the flow of the page. Check it out and see if it feels overloads with the Table of Contents compared to without the table. And SPIKE suggested that this be featured in December, but I have an idea. Since SPIKE is working on Kwanzaa/Classic and making it into something very worthwhile, that one could go on the feature block nearer the holiday and it would be funny to throw this one into the feature que in May! Nice work, IP, and I hope he finds out about this. Aleister 00:41 21-5-'12
      • Let me see for myself. Actually it looks better when I browsed. It looks fairly standard compared to Wikipedia pages. --Qzekrom sig trans Sir CuteReshiramOnTheRadio [CUNPBJ'12PLS(0)] 00:46, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
      • I also changed some of the level-2 headings to level-3 headings. Maybe that'll make it a little more modular. I mean, it's like a conversation, right? --Qzekrom sig trans Sir CuteReshiramOnTheRadio [CUNPBJ'12PLS(0)] 00:48, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
        • I had that first heading up there for a reason: it starts the conversation. If it's missing, it isn't clear that a conversation is going on, at first. It just looks like a rant, and the {{title}} thing only works if you have javascript turned on. 01:10, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
    • An alternative to _NOTOC_ is to make all headings but the first one ;unnumbered. Repeating my comment on VFD that Kwanzaa/Classic ultimately wants to be in mainspace and this article wants to be somewhere else; and on my talk page that featuring Kwanzaa in May will be inscrutable to everyone but giggly Aleister. Admins should warehouse both versions for possible use in December; they won't go stale. I had removed the final illustration, not just because a pictorial stereotype is blunter than the rest of the page, but because it's not from our multimedia but from an external site; however, it has returned Spıke Ѧ 11:24 22-May-12


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