Talk:The Putz Who Stole Hanukkah

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edit The metre

As mentioned below, the original Dr Seuss work was written in anapaestic tetrameter. That is, the lines go something like "duh duh DUH duh duh DUH duh duh DUH duh duh DUH". The problem I have with this article is that this metre is lost far too often. I don't have a copy of How the Grinch Stole Christmas, but I'm guessing that in many cases, the word 'Hannukah' has replaced 'Christmas'. Since 'Hannukah' has an extra syllable, the rhythm is damaged unless the next word starts with a stressed syllable. (Cornbread, I don't mean this criticism personally; it is a problem many Seuss parodies have.) Pappubahry 09:55, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'll listen to your and your whopping 8 contribs...dont care -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 23:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

edit Exclusive Behind the Scenes Drama!!!

All the apparent "wit" in this article is simply due to the use of the anapestic tetrameter meter from the original Dr. Seuss work. That is the only clever part, and Dr. Seuss is rightly celebrated for its novel usage in children's verse. What has been added is two concepts: "Osama Bin Laden hates Jews", which is neither original nor funny, and "Osama Bin Laden is a Putz" which is worse. Placing these two concepts into the form of Dr. Seuss' children's verse does not make them any funnier - it merely renders them childish to a degree that is almost offensive. In Todd Lyon's case the form matched the content much better, because that one dealt with a much more multifacted and appropriate concept - namely the intersections between hypocracy, sexuality and infantilism. That one had a point to make - this one doesn't - other than the author's own self-aggrandisment, apparently. It hijacks someone elses work in order to force through something that is altogether without wit or style, and it is a sorry spectacle to witness. --Sir Hardwick Fundlebuggy (Bleat) 11:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I can't answer the rest of your letter, but the Osama Bin Grinchen pic was made because he ruined that holiday season; I remember empty malls, kids crying for daddy as ships moved out to the gulf, and my parents were afraid to leave the house (though they wouldn't admit it). Anyone who scares my parents gets a 'chopped pic in return, dagnabit. It's a petty reason, probably. But I stand behind it...and the pic is kinda funny, too, although I prefer it w/o a caption (as below).--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 20:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, that pic is not bad at all - it just kinda got caught in the crossfire - I think it's funny because it makes him look consumed by "EVIL" which I think works because it highlights the obsessional nature of his psychology in that respect. The article only emphasises his hatred, and that's a misfire, I reckon. The caption screws it up by relying on random slang. --Sir Hardwick Fundlebuggy (Bleat) 21:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Well Hardwick, I dont care what you think, as enough people thought it was funny enough to be featured.... FEATURED AT LAST!!!!!!!! -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 06:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Q.E.D. --Sir Hardwick Fundlebuggy (Bleat) 08:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Q.E.D.?? -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 08:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Q.E.D. "Quod Erat Demonstrandum" A Latin phrase used to indicate that something has been proven. I wrote a detailed critique of your article above, part of which claimed that it appears to serve no other purpose than you own self-aggrandisment. This view is based on what I saw from your previous comments about the article on the site - e.g. writing "come on, it's gold...", telling someone who voted against that "I don't need your vote anyway", telling someone that it will "be featured tomorrow", offering to swop votes with people if they vote for it, claiming that it is good enough to have a reskin in its honor, calling it "MY MASTERPIECE" in your sig, with full caps on glory, etc.... Your reply to me now states that you do not care about the critique - not that you think it is incorrect, note, but that you simply don't care. I assume, therefore, whether I am correct or not, the most important thing to you is not the content of the article, but simply that the article has got enough votes to be featured - thus proving my point that it serves no other purpose than your self-aggrandisment. Q.E.D. --Sir Hardwick Fundlebuggy (Bleat) 08:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, frankly, let me state again that you're right...I could give a shit about your critique, because enough people thought the "content" was funny. You're trying to make a ridiculous point, that simply because you didnt find it funny, the content is not funny. Funny is an objective word, that means something different to everyone. The content is funny to me, most importantly, and clearly many others. Trust me, I have many things in my life more important than having a featured article on a website. However, if I'm going to spend time here, I might as well make great articles that can be showcased. I think thats your problem. You dont have anything more important going on in reality, so you need to bitch about petty things online. After all, I'm an athletic teen, and you're probably some 30 year old computer geek. Get a life, and get over yourself. Its featured. Deal with it. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 22:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I didn't say that it wasn't funny, I said that all the wit in it was due to Dr. Seuss and the rest was trivial. But, never mind what was actually said, as it is now featured, therefore erasing all opinion and discussion. And the fact that it is featured remains your obsession, not mine. But since you are an athletic teen, with perfect spelling and, no doubt, perfectly athletic features and athletic hair and all kinds of sporty attributes, you must therefore be absolutely correct and I stand evaded. --Sir Hardwick Fundlebuggy (Bleat) 00:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I think you missed my point...I'm saying that you have nothing else going on in your life, likely you're the prototype 40 year old virgin...if this isnt your obsession, why do you continue to discuss it...You didnt even object to my assumption that you're a middle-aged computer geek, and if there was any comeback in your response I missed it. Oh, and if you think Dr.Seuss is funny, then I must be wrong...you're probably three. Hes a good poet obviously, but funny? Come on man, the humor was mine. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 01:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Let me assure you, Sir Cornbread, that if you knew even just the tiniest details of my life you would be stunned. But since that is none of your business and totally irrelevant, I will leave you to the fantasies about me which you are clearly so eager to tell the world about. I'm bowing out now, as bridging the huge gulf between where we are both coming from would be too much effort for too little gain - and from the moment you resorted to personal comments this whole thing has got very, well ... teenaged. --Sir Hardwick Fundlebuggy (Bleat) 01:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Wow, how big of you. Except wait, by saying that, you just proved my point. I'm a teenager, it's normal for kids my age to be online...but wait, you must be at least 30, if you're so mature. So either you have no life, or you're really my age and pretend to be grown up. Oh, and I believe you started with the personal comments by saying...what was it... that this was for my own "self-aggrandisment". Have a nice day hypocrite. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 01:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

P.S. -Regardless of our ages, at least I can spell swap. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 22:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Well done. It's a good start. --Sir Hardwick Fundlebuggy (Bleat) 00:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Come now, Hardwick, it's not that bad... No one ever said that The Swedish Orienteering And Firing A Rat From A Cannon Championships was petty and had no deeper purpose. -- §. | WotM | PLS | T | C | A
I agree. No one ever did say that. --Sir Hardwick Fundlebuggy (Bleat) 08:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Mommy! Daddy! Stop fighting! You're ruining my birthday party! You kids these days and your drama.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 14:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

You're right, Modus. It's getting unseemly. I'll bow out now and return to my pension books and knitting. --Sir Hardwick Fundlebuggy (Bleat) 00:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey Cornbread, are you ever going to move this to UnBooks? Just wondering... --Wehpudicontok--Welcome to Vaporstory! 17:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Probably not. Dont see why thats necessary. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 22:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

edit "The Wiki's the Thing..."

This is the worst talkpage ever. This is worse, possibly, than the horror of Forum:Deadmin vote for Spang which, I think both of you can agree, is the second worst thing on Uncyc. After this page. Which it is. Second, I mean. This is first.

I'm sad now.

Uncyc isn't supposed to make me sad. I come here to read (or to make) the humour with the funny and the giggles or, on occasion, pointed political satire with the hmmms and that whaaa?s. This talkpage is neither funny nor satirical. Congrats, my buzz is killed. CB, you need to get better at taking criticism. We're all adults here, figuratively. "The wiki's the thing...". There. You made me take Bacon and misquote out him of context. I hope you're happy.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 02:55, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I'm just defending my writing/article here. Hardwick went far past constructive criticism. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 03:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
The last line of his first post, while is diplomatically worded, is a bit much, granted...then you go and make it look good, by comparison, with the your reply. You both suck. I hope this argument is over. You're both mature enough to not hold grudges. Unlike me. I'm totally gonna get that kid who pushed me off the teeter-totter in first grade. Bill, Billy, Barry...Bobbie, something. Damn! I can't read my note; the crayon has gone all smudgy..."You got away with it this time, <shakes fist at sky> Bobbie something!" --Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 03:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm done with it. Im not gonna vote against all his stuff from now on or anything, it just pissed me off, because he basically called me a fake and an Anti-Semite, when I'm half Jewish. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 03:36, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
He's saying, essentially, that more could have been done with the concept, which is probably true. He's calling you a diva, because you are a diva. What I'm not seeing are any anti-semitic remarks above, nor in the comment with his vote on VFH.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 03:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I am no diva. BAM! I'm seriously done with this topic. Its featured, I'm happy, goodnight kids. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 04:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

edit Free donuts announcement

Ok, well I can now honestly say that I wish I had never started this. So, everyone involved, please accept a donut on me. Especially you, Sir Cornbread, as I understand from my nurse that you youngsters enjoy donuts and whatnot. Anyone prepared to send me their address details will receive a free donut by return post. I would send a nice cup of tea too, were that practical, but it won't be until at least 2025. --Sir Hardwick Fundlebuggy (Bleat) 12:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't be too hard on yourself. There's always room for tea. -- Brigadier Sir Mordillo Icons-flag-il GUN UotY WotM FP UotM AotM MI3 AnotM VFH +S 16:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey man, no harm done, that just got a little out of hand. I just took that a little personally, because it seemed it was. I'll get you a friendship ring or something. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 22:58, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Lets vote: who thinks this should be reverted to before this whole thing started? I know I do... If you're with me say I. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 23:03, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it". Unfortunate and unpleasant as this was, it should stay.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 06:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

edit The Putz: Exclusive Behind-the-scenes footage!

LittleCindyJewWho
Little Cindy Jew Who

how's this?--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 20:54, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Great! Thanks I'll definitely use it. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 00:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Oy vey... this is only half-baked, and already looks tasty. I'm watching this page to see how this progresses...--<<Bradmonogram.png>> 02:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah its a gold mine, but its pretty hard to change it and still have it rhyme...glad you like it! -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 02:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if this fits, but it gave me an excuse to figure out my tablet...I'm still working on the forehead.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 03:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I love it MO...The forehead does need some work, as you said, but otherwise, it fits perfectly. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 03:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
V1.1, revised forehead.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 04:37, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Osamabingrinchen1
Dont want to make this like Reefer Desk, but maybe just darken it a little to make it more balanced with the rest of the face. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 04:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
v1.15...still not perfect (colour balancing is tough).--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 04:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Its alright if its not. I really appreciate the effort, and unless you're going to VFP it (which could work), it doesnt need to be absolutely perfect. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 05:02, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Actually, if you've seen what I put on VFP, quality rarely has anything to do with "for" votes. As long as the mismatch isn't jarring, I'm happy with it. If you're happy with it, even better.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 05:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Maybe even try this at VFP...I think if people get the joke (read the article) they'll really like it. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 05:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm in no rush; one of mine is being butchered on VFP as we speak...still +5 for a political satire that (potentially) only north americans will understand isn't too bad. Finish the page first.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 05:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
v1.16 I think I got the forehead right & some other minor fixes (I think that I may be one of those perfectionistas...or maybe just neurotic).--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 07:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
ThePutzWhoStoleHanukkah

Okay, here's my (not-quite-done) take on the The Putz Who Stole Hanukkah book cover. If anything looks not-quite-right to you, just ask and I'll try and fix it. -- §. | WotM | PLS | T | C | A 19:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Minor tweak: straighten the right "arms" of the "k"s, as they look like "R"s w/part of the loop erased.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 20:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Fixt. I also made the U a little taller, and changed how the words were aligned. Anything else? -- §. | WotM | PLS | T | C | A 22:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Just one minor thing: Take out the hair on top of the turban, a little strand is just poking out. Thanks 4 the pic! -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 00:41, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, Done. -- §. | WotM | PLS | T | C | A 20:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Adorable!--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 20:37, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
+1--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 03:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Grinchbeard
the Putz's small beard/Grew three sizes that day!
Looks good, but one question...What are the red lines for...? -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 03:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
They're the lines marking growth...did I get it backwards?--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 03:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh, never mind dumb question...would it be possible to animate that/can you do that? -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 03:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Nay, I got rid of the "animated Gif" plugin ages ago (when HDDs were small) because I never used it and it doubled the size of the application.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 03:26, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Just asking...Its great as is anyway, and THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL 3! -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 03:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
There's at least one more coming. I'll try tomorrow.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 03:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
THANKS! -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 03:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Last one for tonight (I swapped the "Star of David" for a dreidel since I used a Star on the previous one:
Grinchdreidel
. The sad part is that I bought Oblivion a week ago, installed it, and patched it, but I've only played it for an hour or so...I'm disturbed greatly by the fact that retouching pictures is more fun that what is purported to be a great game.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 05:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks once again...I think shes almost ready... -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 05:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Last one. Worst...yarmukel...ever...
Grinchcamel05
You might want to reorg the pics (the seuss cover should probably go first, the rest have an appropriate para to sit beside)--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 03:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
You're my hero. I'll rearrange, and then possibly to VFH...You think...? -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 03:38, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Obviously. You might want to give it time to purcolate...just in case you think of last minute improvements. --Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 03:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

edit Semi-Protect This Article

Semi-protect this article before more vandals blank or vandalize it, 'kay, thnx.--Jtaylor1Small Egg 12:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

It already is, I think.--Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 12:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

edit Hilarious

Whoever wrote this article is a freaking genius. - Raul 02:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! That would be me. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 04:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Great, look what you've gone and done. "...his beard head grew three sizes that day"... ;) --Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 04:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Ja, great article 'n' stuff, but just one thing: Shouldn't the title be "How the Putz Stole Hanukkah"? Why change the phrasing in the title? Not a big deal, of course, but just something I noticed... Oh, and also, why reindeer?? Isn't there a Hanukkah animal you could break out or, failing that, some kind of "Jewish animal"? Hmm.. is there a Jewish animal? Maybe not... Well, anyway, that's my $0.02.
Re-read it. I did camel instead of reindeer to go along with the Middle East theme. -- Sir C Icons-flag-us Holla | CUN 09:00, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I like how everyone is complaining about this fabulous article while if it was written nowadays it'd probably be the best article written in months. --Sir DJ ~ Irreverent Icons-flag-au Noobaward Wotm Unbooks mousepad GUN 02:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Kvetching kvetching, I'm tempted to throw the {{sofixit}} template at you. ~Jewriken.GIF 06:17, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I had a little dreidel
I made it out of clay
When it's dry and ready
Then dreidel I shall play!
198.151.130.69 18:07, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
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