Talk:Inland Northwest

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This article was nominated for deletion on February 27, 2013.
The result of the discussion was Keep.

edit 2013 nomination for deletion

Some very recent instant delete comments on a page that's been around for over six years:

  • Written, and revised overnight with 2010 census numbers, overtly to boost the city of Boise, just irreverently enough to fit on a humor wiki. <-- You mostly get it, but if it has to be explained, it won't be funny to you. If you had the extra 20%, it might be amusing to you.
  • largely imaginary region (per wikipedia, the actual inland northwest refers to eastern Washington and northern Idaho). The author is overly excited about the fact that Boise is the 101st largest city in the United States <-- Turns out an element used in comedy is exaggeration. Again, if I have to explain it, it won't be funny. Those who get it love this thing. It turns out (explanation):
  1. People cherry pick facts. Notice that Boise gets to "rule" over a large five state region with the tallest guyed structure in the world. The states chosen are contiguous states with low populations vs. the rest of the country including Idaho. Boise is near the western edge of the "region", and the TV tower is near the eastern edge of the "region".
  2. Some people have unusually strong amounts of pride about where they live.
  3. Lots of people have an unusual amount of pride in their local sports teams.
  4. "The author is overly excited" <-- That's the idea. Exaggerated character.

This is dry satire. I know satire loses people, dry loses people, and the two don't cancel each other out.

To point out the obvious: If someone objects to an "Uncyclopedia" article because the region lacks accuracy, that's a red flag. If they go so far as to look up the city size and go "Boise is the 101st largest city in the United States", and then object to that city being the largest city in a 476,550 square mile, five state region of the United States, that's another red flag. Those don't cancel each other out either.

I don't know who went with the alternate "They hunt people" angle, but give this some thought: If it was true, would it be funny? If it was false, would it be funny? No. Not funny either way. At least the existing article is amusing to the people who understand dry satire about people having huge local pride about their area and/or local sports team. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.129.62.183 (talk • contribs)

I nominated this article at Votes for Deletion, not realizing that the shameless shilling for Boise was itself a put-on. However, the reason I nominated it is that the page is listy and ugly, and I dredged up a version from the past that was less so. Regarding your comment that, "If you had the extra 20%, it might be amusing to you," one interpretation is that the onus is on the writer to have the article give the extra 20% so that the reader will enjoy a satire rather than get the impression that Uncyclopedia has simply been vandalized. I will describe your comments at Votes for Deletion. But would you please go the extra mile (with or without registering as a user) and edit the article to be less listy and take this article beyond an exaggerated inside joke? Spıke ¬ 12:35 3-Mar-13

If you understand how people cherry pick facts, it's all about being "listy" (swarming people with an avalanche of "facts"). I won't be able to make dry satire funny with explanation. It's too late. I stand by my claim that "They hunt people" isn't funny, and that the objection to this article that's been around for 6+ years for quick deletion by a few people who don't get it is short sighted at the best. At worst, it doesn't meet the ground for quick deletion. I'd crack a (not so funny) clue stick reference, but I fear it being countered by the fact that wikipedia says there's clues and sticks, but no clue stick. :( (or does it, I didn't look) 65.129.62.183 20:59, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

The article's existence for 6 years is not a defense (we routinely hunt and kill the site's "2006-cruft") and is in fact one of the prerequisites for deletion by vote. However, understanding where you were going with this, I have taken your latest version and fit the boosterism into a more encyclopedic tone that I hope will give the reader that 20% of additional hints to understand the comedy. I don't know what Wikipedia says. This, famously, is not Wikipedia. Spıke ¬ 21:12 3-Mar-13

edit Notice!

The page isn't getting deleted after all. Hard to delete a page about a region covering almost half a million square miles with the greatest city that ever existed... ...BOISE, IDAHO!!! Home of the Boise State Broncos!!! Boise Rules!!! The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.129.19.238 (talk • contribs)

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