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Gordon Brown
Born 20 Febuary 1951,
Giffnok, Scotland
Party: Labour
Spouse: Sarah Brown (2000-present)
Children: Jennifer Jane (deceased)
John Macaulay
James Fraser
Alma Mater: University of Edinburgh
Religion: Church of Scotland
Signature: GBsig
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Term of office: 27 June 2007 – 11 May 2010
Preceded by: Tony Blair
Succeeded by: David Cameron
Chancellor of the Exchequer
Term of office: 2 May 1997 – 27 June 2007
Preceded by: Kenneth Clarke
Succeeded by: Alistair Darling
Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer
Term of office: 18 July 1992 – 2 May 1997
Preceded by: John Smith
Succeeded by: Kenneth Clarke
Shadow Secretary of State for Trade
Term of office: 13 May 1985 – 18 July 1992
Preceded by: Robin Cook
Succeeded by: Margaret Beckett

It's all fact ready to be twisted so have we got any thoughts? DavefaceFMS ScottsigFlag 16:36, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Note: thoughts are different from just going ahead and editing everything I posted.
Some of the things have become sort of true, for instance Brown sort of power shared with Blair as it turned out. You could also have things about the power creep, Darling was 'sort of in charge of the money - but not too much". Gordon Brown was ineffective at allowing others to take the stage and surrounded himself with too many people who would just agree with him, as such the cabinet was filled with certain types of character. You could have a few jokes about that sort of thing. Brown was also left with a lot of bad news in his time as Prime minister - maybe something about shit hitting the fan after Tony went psycho?:-)--Sycamore (Talk) 21:03, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
I agree with the 'power creep' thing - together they set records for introducing new laws, many of which have as yet even to be examined properly in the courts, and some of those that have have been defeated. Maybe I'm still just arguing for a restoration of the satirical list-of-laws, but hey: some of it was rather funny. No jokes are occurring to me right now on the simply-fact sporked Wikipedia table. Anyone have any ideas? Myocardialinfarction 14:44, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

edit The Sun switches its support to the Tories

(moved from the main article since it's a bit mean, but hey, it is the truth) --->

Being Britons, we are unable to think for ourselves. Good thing we have some unprincipled tax-evading Australian scumbags and a shrieking harpie to do it for us. It Was The Sun Wot Won It. My Arse.

edit Lists, and hatred of such.

What is this shit with 'ALL LISTS SUCK'. No. MOST lists suck, and suck donkey dick at that. Some have FUNNY stuff in. Replacing a list with some funny bits with a paragraph of random guff with no vaguely good jokes is not improvement. I'd argue the list has a better hit rate, is written better, and is generally far more relevant. Prime ministers and governments get judged on their acts in office. Uncyclopedia crud gets judged on laughs. Please post on the talk page before throwing the list out entirely - or at least copy a candidate version under your own user page. Myocardialinfarction 16:24, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Plus, who laughed here?

One of Flawed Gord's favourite pastimes is foiling his own assasination plots against him, since his police force is under strict orders from The Stig to passively murder him before he manages to completely destroy the world. In a 2008 interview with Nuts magazine, one of the most important of his career, Gordon revealed that his favourite M&M was the yellow one, but he said "... in the words of Homer Simpson, they all end up the same colour in the end". Let's hope the country can sympathise with him enough to get him out of England alive when he's not protected by his reluctant band of cronies, the Government.

Someone's mowed the list again. Some of the list jokes only work on account of the list being so arbitrary, stupid and extensive (ie satire of G&T's superhuman abilities at making up new laws). We should put some of them back. HOWEVER! This needs a fresh pair of eyes, so can an independent party look at the previous versions and judge accordingly. PS If you judge that this list is as good as it gets, you are wrong and need to take another look so mneugh. ¬¬¬¬ (That was me attempting to sign it on an unfamiliar keyboard. Myocardialinfarction 17:11, August 3, 2010 (UTC))

I agree. --Ozymandiaz 15:35, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

edit Recent edits (August 2010)

On the removal/restoration of two paragraphs: I like the first one. Never laughed at the 'party animal' bit, but it's not a bad idea. Could people please post here on the talk page before ransacking the main article? Thanks. And I still think the list of laws should be here, but I'm wrong about lots of things. Myocardialinfarction 17:11, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

I'm a fan of the Comrade James Jar-Jar Gordon Josef Molotov-Ribbentrop... ect
DavefaceFMS ScottsigFlag 19:49, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
This article has and continues to have outbreaks of people deleting funny bits without discussing it on the talk page first, generally replacing it with more 'the erosion beam'-level crap. Right, you fuckers. I'm putting the comedy middle names back in and if you don't like them or think 'this is in need of a major rewrite' then bloody well rewrite it in your own user space and stop ruining good jokes. Myocardialinfarction 07:42, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
I'm firmly with OP on this one, also, OP is a fag. -- Prof. Olipro Icons-flag-gb KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 07:47, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
I did a major edit of the article last night. I tried not to delete too much content, rather just re-order the whole thing so it made more sense. In some cases there were really bad jokes or things that did not make any sense so they may have been chopped, placed elsewhere or added to. Also, the constant references to Gordon Shit just aren't funny and so I felt the need to reduce them and thus restore somewhat their humour. Also, much of the article still referred to Brown as if he were still PM, this was corrected. I hope that I have done justice to those who take this seriously. Kirwanco 14:44, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! (Just fixed up a few typos in my edit). Myocardialinfarction 14:24, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Cheers, I've been trying to tidy a little to and I'm with you on the Gordon shit bit. I think we would need to decide on one way of saying his name. So far I've just been referring to him and Gordon mostly. (I do like Broon fae toon but it has no link to his job as MP which is the main part of it.)
DavefaceFMS ScottsigFlag 06:45, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

edit Middle names

I can't help but feel that the lead-in gives Gordzilla a bit too many middle names, not all of them entirely comprehensible. To list:

The Decidedly Dishonourable Comrade Chairman Gordon Josef Jar-Jar Molotov-Ribbentrop No More Boom And Bust Jings Crivvens Helpmaboab Nixon Brown of the Politburo

I like the opening sentence very much and enjoy the witty description of him as "The Decidedly Dishonourable Comrade Chairman of the Politburo". The references to Josef Stalin, Vyacheslav Molotov and Richard Nixon I think are good but I don't like the Jar-Jar Binks reference. Jar-Jar, while an idiotic politician is an irritatingly cheerful individual whereas Brown seems to exist in a permanent state of lugubriousness. Merely attempting to smile visibly exhausts him. The names "Ribbentrop", "No More Boom and Bust", "Jings", "Crivvens" and "Helpmaboap" I don't understand at all and they sound like pure gibberish. Myocardialfaction seems to understand so perhaps he'd care to shed some light. I also think the Mr. Bean joke should be put back in because an MP (can't remember his name) once memorably referred to Brown as having "transformed from Josef Stalin to Mr. Bean." In any case, just thought I should bring it up. -- 16:54, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Shall attempt to explain the Helpmaboab bit - it relies on two things. 1) Gordon famously throughout his reigns as chancellor and then PM maintained the mantra "No More Boom And Bust", referring to his supposed financial prudence and sensibleness. 2) He's Scottish, and "Jings, Crivvens and Helpmaboab" is a traditional Scottish expression of dismay going back manymanymanymanymany years. Thus, the joke is an attempt to condense "Why 'No More Boom And Bust' is my middle name" and the internal crazed panic when the whole thing went tits up and everything landed right on his head.
The 'Jar-Jar' reference is there since (especially towards the end of his reign) he was almost universally despised, even within his own party, and also it sort of makes an inverse reference to his permanent 'someone just shot my dog' demeanour.
Now, Molotov-Ribbentrop refers to the pact made between Blair and Brown that Blair would be PM first, then hand over to Brown, and the subsequent, ahem, souring of relations between both pairs. It's a subtle joke, but entirely appropriate, and for my money actually better than Stalin/Nixon comparisons. I don't know where else in the article it would fit, and it works quite nicely here.
Thankyew for your contributions. Myocardialinfarction 20:42, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
And thank you for your explanations Myocardial, though I still don't understand the term "Ribbentrop". -- 00:21, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
Maybe this link will help you understand. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 00:39, 4 October 2010
Ah, I see. Sorry, I hadn't heard of Joachim Ribbentrop until I saw the page. Most amusing. -- 17:20, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
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