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Why are people getting offended

I was just wondering why people are getting so offended, there is an article called Neurotypical syndrome that makes fun of so called normal people and no one gets offended, I actually thought it was pretty funny. People just need to chill, Uncyclopedia isn't meant to be taken seriously --Uncle J 00:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I can't help thinking that this page should have a massive image at the top with Carlos Mencia going, "This page is a joke! Dee dee dee!" ...Or maybe not, because you might not think that's funny.Atomic shlumpster 01:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I thought this was funny... but a lot of it i didn't get. Im an Aspie and i know a few of them, some of them are total arseholes and use the syndrome as an excuse, as you do, but most of them are nice and quiet outside the classroom. I myself am one of the loud Aspies and about once a month i do something really insensitive and only realise it the night after doing it and am kept awake all night...sigh. i had OT so i don't come across like more seveer Aspie's would. I don't get why anyone can be offended by anything on this site, it's a whole joke. The only jokes that should really offend people are ones that involve Jews (because they are so offensive(that's a joke, btw, Jews aren't offensive so that's why it's funny...dont hate me...) and they explain their jokes and use bracets inside bracets) and ones that impeach the honor of Douglas Adams. Dr Ottis Widlun Caiv 11:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Aspies are by non-Aspies often considered to be stiff yet overacting, easily disturbed and self-obsessed. Just like actors, hence the Hollywood team, :-). If anyone is to be offended, is it the aspies or the actors? ,--Suresh simple Swami A. Suresh 20:49, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
This article is extremely offensive. As to your defense, Hitler wouldn't get off war crimes by calling the Holocaust a joke. Unfortunately I don't have the authorization to delete the article. Xx 00:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

yeeeeah sorry i complained abput it b4 i got a sense of humor i find it funny now XD


Getting it

Some users have objected against running Asperger's as a Hollywood team and about the impropriate in joking about the mentally handicapped. I didn't start it, but this is my viewpoint:

Asperger's syndrom is a rubber diagnosis. I's a bit loose in the edges and can be twisted around in order to fit in on any emotionally disturbed or detached relatively normally functioning individual. In severe cases an Aspberger is an emotionally cut off or disturbed individual who talks monotonily, shows great interest for some selected obscure details or calendar facts and relates to people in an awkward non empatic way - if at all.

Honestly, with the way people usually act, don't you wish you had a proper excuse to be a total jackass? (Not having a choice annoys me sometimes, but then I remember 95% of people are total idiots. :P ) And btw, this article's a bit crappy, not offending. 62.197.170.146 22:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Now - what is the extrem opposite of this? Well - the socially smooth ever smiling and constantly relating inhabitants of the show biz upper atmosphere of trend sensitivity. What bigger scorning of those pompous jerks not fitting in there than comparing them to Asberger's? The joke is on them, not on some poor retarded schmuck spending his or hers life in front of a computer screen because of an ability to get real friends. So don't fell hit by this, dear borderline Aspie user. The Uncyclopedia is on your side. --{{User:Suresh/sig}} 19:05, 8 May 2006 (UTC) (with more diagnoses than you can spell)

Diseases, and other types of human suffering are either ripe for a humourous approach, or they're not. This is not my first trip down disease lane — OCD was featured. Why? It's inaccurate. It's as limited in scope as it could be, and completely ignores the debilitative nature of extreme cases. Why would I write this? Because this is Uncyclopedia, and we're trying to laugh about things to keep ourselves from crying. Look at Cancer porn or Tourette's Syndrome... If we want to try to find a shred of humour in these diseases, we do so playing up the ways they are misunderstood by the public, or by adding a completely ridiculous element. If you want the sad and sobering truth, there's Wikipedia. But I think there's some value in trying to laugh through the things that hurt, though as human beings we find it easier to laugh at someone else's pain than our own, or that of someone we love. It may interest you to know that like other authors of some of these articles, I have first hand knowledge of the actual subject. I'm well versed in Pervasive Developmental Disorders, which includes Autism Spectrum Disorders, and Asperger's Syndrome— which is often characterized as high-functioning Autism. Portraying socially inappropriate actors like Alec Baldwin or Russell Crowe as Asperger's sufferers didn't seem too harsh to me, compared to some of the more extreme disease-related articles on Uncyc. Your mileage may vary. ~ T. (talk) 19:31, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I still dislike this article, with all due respect to its authors. Why not make fun of people with Asperger's syndrome by comparing them to machines or something like that? However, if others find it funny, then I shall no longer struggle futilely.
^ Sign your comments dude.
This is shitloads better than the ED version, and I have Asperger's syndrome myself. I like this bit: "Sadly, there is no cure, but some are able to lead an almost normal life by hiring a good public relations firm and an expensive team of lawyers." --thematrixeætsyou, the 1337 (talk) (flames) 05:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

However, Suresh, why would a person with Asperger's syndrome be described as a "some poor retarded schmuck spending his or hers life in front of a computer screen"? People with Asperger's syndrome are not retarded, for Einstein, Newton, and many other intellectuals are widely believed to have Asperger's syndrome. What about the poor retarded schmuck spending his or her life mindlessly chattering nonsense with other poor, retarded schmucks?

Well, that question solves itself through iteration, doesn't it? --Suresh simple Swami A. Suresh 03:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

--IconSir Xiao Li CUN VFH NS (Talk)[citation needed] 23:51, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

(Forum discussion...)

Japanese

Suggestion to Todd: Cut the Japanese race comment in first chapter. --Suresh 10:57, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)

I thought about it, but the guy who added it is Japanese. He's toned the comment down a little in the latest edit. What do you think? I hate to completely kill anyone's contributions. -- T. (talk) 11:19, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)

I don't know - maybe User talk:Ryoske can sharpen the self-irony by giving some background to the statement or even add some exaggerating comments ? --Suresh 11:25, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)

I got the idea for that comment because I've heard that somebody (don't know who) once described Japan as an "Aspergian Society" as the Japanese have Asperger's Syndrome-like characteristics. I thought that since the pages on Japan and Japanese already attack them, a comment like this wouldn't hurt.--Ryoske 22:41, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)


Neeeh... I'm walking a slightly different track here. I'm not really into smoothen the japanese angle (though the wordchange from race to people ie good taste.) I want either to cut out or spice up. I'm more into a comment like this: Some theorists believe that the entire Japanese people suffer from Aspberger because of their tendency to stay emotionally detached in all situations except seppuku. --Suresh 00:29, 17 Dec 2005 (UTC)

I like Suresh's toned-down version better.--<<Bradmonogram.png>> 15:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Better than what , Bradley? My verson is om the page since december.--{{User:Suresh/sig}} 18:00, 10 May 2006 (UTC) (BTW - I promise my self to read about signature bug this evening!

Famous People (Edits)

I'd like to discuss an editing question concerning this entry. Is this the place to do it?--Suresh 01:31, 13 Dec 2005 (UTC)

You might get a faster reaction by contacting the user in question on their talk page (check the [history] and find the user name). If it is an anonymous IP however (and not a logged in user) that did the edit in question, it might be dynamic, so in that case ask here. Also, if the edit was done by multiple people, ask here. --Splaka 02:15, 13 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Ok - The disputed edit was made by a dynamic IP-person, so I'll continue the ranting here.

Lament by the misunderstood genius:

I added a 'famous persons' - section and filled it up with people. I chose good guys and bad guys, starting with the holy trinity: Hitler - Jesus - Einstein. This triumvirate lack all connection other then they are most often chosen as syndrome carrier by people who don't know what they are talking about, Hitler being artist and vegetarian, Jesus being a commie/liberal/conservative/gay. Einstein have really been suggested for Asperger, so theres a fact warning here. The point being, people who invent ideologies and other kind of diseases tend to go back in history, picking up the most spectacular guy they can find and then shoute - HE HAD IT! Or SHE, if the question concerns someone before Christ said to be a feminist or a lesbian.

Now some scmuck edited out Jesus, Einstein and all other good guys and replced them with more killers like Stalin and Saddam. This misses the point entirely - A list of all Bad guys fails to descibe the intellectual self pride I wanted to describe here. Also - it is absolute popintless on Aspbergers since this list of villains should be put with more accuracy on ADHD.

I removed Einstein from the list, because he defentivily had it and we can't lower our standard enough to include actual facts here on uncyclopedia, now can we? I also added a rotated aspiesforfreedom logo, thought the text was funnier when it was in my mind then in print, if anyone can come up with something better, feel free to replace. Baron of Greed 17:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Now to the action:

Whether you agree with me or not - how should I put forward my point of wiev in a way that doesn't provoke you mighty purgerer constructive way. Just erasing the changes seem to lame.--Suresh 09:29, 13 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Mom, he did it again! It happened again the famous people added by a dynamic IP was just erased today: Blanking attempt and no reason given as to why they were deleted. Certainly Burger King has his own ideology and self-pride as did Ronald Reagan and some of the other people? So really, WTF? --01:10, 21 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Humor (Needs more)

I think this wee article could use an expansion and some more humor. I'd rate it... meh... 6/10? (P.S I'm an Aspie and I'm not whining about this, nor or am I offended, so I hope that sets an example. --4.227.101.115 22:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Aspie

Know the wrath of the Real Aspie

You're not an Aspie, you liar. Or you're self diagnosed - which amounts to the same thing. 202.0.106.130 06:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I've found out that Asperger's is something that's rarely formally diagnosed. It's possible, but it's rare. Oh, and knock it off with the reverts. I thought Aspies were supposed to enjoy humor...? Maj Major Sir Hinoa (Plead) (KUN) (12:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC))
Well I've been formally diagnosed. And there is a difference between humour and destructive criticism (which is what this article represents). Aspies can not handle that, and I was reverting because the article contributes to the attitude of making fun of a serious problem. So serious in fact one Aspie reverted to killing 35 people as revenge for not getting his structure and for being criticised (see the history of this article and my edits for more). This article - and the worse one on Encyclopedia Dramatica - perpetuate the notion that Aspergers is frivilous. It's not, and I'm the living proof of it - as is Martin Bryant who for the record has it worse that I have. And a message for Todd Lyons - get some credibility before blocking IP's. Especially public library ones! This matter will be taken further. 72.232.67.202 23:43, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
The website is about frivolity. We strongly frown upon the perpetuation of truth. If you can't cope, you know where the door is, but you'd do well to learn to laugh at yourself. I'd ask you to add a few jokes, but it sounds like you'd feel more comfortable curled up in a wet blanket with the rest of the editors at Wikipedia. ~ T. (talk) 00:39, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I know how to laugh at myself. But I frown upon anyone laughing at me because I happen to be an Aspie. It goes against every fair thought pattern anyone reasonable would have. And any reasonable person would agree with me. Further - they would agree that making light/fun/whatever-you-want-to-call-it of disabilities that make life difficult is a sorry piece of trash that deserves a level of contempt reserved for the likes of Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Ladin and Adolf Hitler. Wikipedia is a responsible website that doesn't suffer intolerance like that. You can show me the door, but your garbage remains for others like me to also see - and one day one might see it and hunt you down and kill you for being so pathetically stupid and inconsiderate towards those who (given a structure and the means to keep it) can be a benefit to society. Idiots like you and this article restrict that benefit to the extent that contacting the UN Human Rights area would be appropriate. Oh - and keep banning my proxies. I got a million of them - so you'd better start listening because this is nothing to be laughing at. As I keep saying - ask the 35 people who were killed at Port Arthur what happens when an Aspie is treated like this article! As I said - if you won't be reasonable, I have the means to shut your whole site down. Might be better if you deleted the article. Only cowards and bullies make fun of disabilities. 208.101.35.51 02:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, making empty threats while hiding behind an anonymous IP is the height of cowardice. Your continued harping about people with Asperger's being violence prone is also the most ignorant garbage on this page. Please don't embarrass yourself further.  :) ~ T. (talk) 03:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm an Aspie. Now, Anony, tell me: do you find most articles here funny? Do you take them seriously? Most people take this page just as seriously as every other page here. If you don't understand, they don't take it seriously. They laugh at it. *bows, walks off stage* --Clorox Icons-flag-us MUN ONS (diskussion) 18:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Man, you guys are dickbags. I have been formally diagnosed with high-functioning Asperger's, and for the record, if you can't deal with humor, fuck you. And "ask the 35 people who were killed?" There are two problems with that: 1)All they knew about the guy was that he was shooting at them, and 2) they're dead. Also, that pretty much amounts to "stop making fun of us or we'll kill you because we're medically incapable of having a sense of humor." G'orzak the Dubious And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. Genesis 6:6 14:53, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

There's a lot of complaining about lack of humour, but no real effort to add more. C'mon folks. Every other bad stereotype gets inflated to comedic effect around here, so get your pumps out and start pushing. There's even a user box created in response to this article -- made by someone with Asperger's no less.  :) And a lot of Uncyclopedians are using it. So take 5 deep breaths, think of the ridiculous ways that Asperger Syndrome is perceived by the average Joe, and run with it. And in case you missed it, Welcome to Uncyclopedia. ~ T. (talk) 12:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

"Asperger Syndrome is defined in section 299.80 of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) by the following criteria:
      1. Voluntary impairment in social interaction;
      2. The presence of expected, repetitive and stereotyped behaviors and interests;
      3. Significant impairment in "giving a shit";
      4. No significant delay in inappropriate language;
      5. No significant delay in cognitive development, self-help skills, or adaptive behaviors (other than social interaction); and,
      6. The symptoms must not be better accounted for by another specific pervasive developmental disorder or schizophrenia."


So. Bloody. Accurate. Let us Aspies conquer the world!--The Emo Hunter

Correct Title

The correct title is Asperger Syndrome, not Asperger's Syndrome. Change any Asperger's to Asperger. --Micoolio101 04:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)Micoolio101

New Version (not vandalism)

I hope the updated version that Hrodulf and I have created is to everyone's satisfaction and mirth. (I will be removing this note when Eddie gets out of hospital in case he sees what I have been partly responsible for) Wally Burns 20:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you seem to have replaced this article with one about Asparagus Syndrome. I am fixing this error now. Bone_F_clear.png Sir Famine, Gun Petition » 11/20 03:11
No, this was not an error. The intention was to replace the article. I have left a message on your talk page about this. Wally Burns 07:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Redirection

I intend to redirect this page to Asparagus Syndrome temporarily tomorrow morning. Eddie is definitely being released from hospital tomorrow after he managed to get the hospital psychiatrist into trouble for keeping him there too long. I am going to try and get him to pursue the matter, and seeing this page replaced may be just the distraction we need. I will put a link to this message on some user talk pages for some responses. I intend to record this page on my talk page to preserve it, and I will restore matters tomorrow night. I hope everyone is happy to do this. Wally Burns 09:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't have a problem, but I'm not sure it will work. You can try as far as I'm concerned, though. --Hrodulf 13:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Combined with the distraction of taking out a lawsuit against the hospital psychiatrist I think it could work, Hrodulf. If we can deflect him from here I can see him directing all his negative energy towards the legal action. I will let you know what happens tonight. I shall insert the re-direction just as soon as I transfer the current article to my user page and find a redirection example to copy. Wally Burns 20:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Forum:Eddie/Slashy_situation_remedy Wally Burns 21:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Correctish Title

It CAN be called Asperger Syndrome, considering Mohammad Ghaziuddin (one of the leaders in AS research, University of Michigan) uses the term, however Asperger's Syndrome is used in the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry, as well as the British Medical Journal. Giggity. --Got Milk? 07:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I am not offended

I am one of the people who has Asperger's Syndrome, and I get the jokes, and am not offended. Marshal Uncyclopedian! Talk to me! 03:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I was diagnosed with "Asperger's syndrome" and I think this article is ingenious! Brad 05:32, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I too have AS and found this article to be hilarious. ~Minitrue Sir SysRq! Talk! Sex! =/ GUNWotMRotMAotMVFHSKPEEINGHPBFF (@ 23:32 8 Feb, 2008)

As do I and I have to say this article is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on Uncyclopedia. I think whoever wrote the article had a bad experience with someone with Asperger's but there actually are people with it who are exactly the way this article depicts. The comments and jokes made are very well observed. --Narcissus Black 15:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


I have Aspergers, as well, but this page is damn funny. Ineedhelpalot

I personally have this disorder, and i find this funny. --RemTar 20:42, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Read it backwards

I actually read this saga backwards, as in I read The Great Aspie War of Ought Six then Forum:Asperger's_Syndrome_is_no_laughing_matter_Volume_I and finally the article itself and to be honest, having read the works of Anonymous Slashy the article seems fairly accurate! This article seems to be poking fun at the people who claim to have Aperger but actually are just wankers. -- User:Pashion 16:38, 23 August 2007 (GMT)

EDIT

I edited this a week before Christmas, but forgot to post about it. I edited it because someone else turned it into something a bit more insulting and unfunny. Throwing around random insults in place of 'sarcasm' is NOT the way to be funny, this isn't encyclopedia dramatica. I, too, have Aspergers. --RawDanger 02:33, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

More humerous if it acknowledges that it is real?

As an aspie, I feel that this section could be a lot more humerous to both Aspie and NT alike if it acknowledged the reality of Aspergers syndrome and poked fun at the people diagnosed with it instead. (Eg, joking about inability to get laid to the point where scientists suspect Aspies reproduce via mitosis.)

--Fusion7 (talk) 08:06, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

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