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This time I'm referring to the reordering of the user preferences. It was already confusing enough as it was, being all not like the normal wikis from which we get most of our new users, but now it's just nonsensical. Like the part about what pages are automatically watched, that's under 'email'. And stuff.

Anyway, since they love having community consensus regarding things:

Consensus: Is this dumb?

Score: 15

Oh, right, so I sent this along to Wikia

Totally forgot to add this here, in case any of you care (maybe you'd like to express concerns about other specific issues, or something). 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 07:08, 28 January 2012

Re: Wikia Support - Uncyclopedia wants normal MediaWiki user preferences back

Dopp, Jan-23 10:45 pm (UTC):


Thank you for contacting Wikia. The updated version of Preferences presents a more appropriate organization for Wikia's features and tools. We're aware that the watchlist options may need some updates (with some prefs being under Email and some under Followed Pages). If you have concerns about other specific issues in this update, we'd love to discuss them further.


Athyria, Jan-22 01:23 am (UTC):

We have established that we have consensus that the current setup is dumb here: [1] ('dumb' being the wording on the consensus, specifically)

As such, it would be appreciated if a more sensible order of user preferences could be reestablished, such as, for instance, something along the lines of what MediaWiki uses by default. New features can be added to that ordering same as to any other.

The Uncyclopedia cabal

While this message is funny and all, I'm not sure this is the best way to communicate our problem. Telling the people who are responsible for the faulty system we use as well as the people who can help us (or not help us) change it that it is dumb (and then quite sarcastically a second time) is not likely to inspire anyone to help us any time soon nor the exact way we would like. At least that's my guess. Perhaps. --ShabiDOO 14:38, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
The way Wikia does things would indicate that it doesn't matter just how one contacts them. Their 'creative' folk think something is a good idea and they go along with it regardless of community outcry, and thus the bulk of Wikia winds up with things like Oasis and Message Wall and Related Pages and a complete misattribution on all images (although I'm pretty sure they fixed that one due legal concerns), and all the poor email and community coordinater lackeys can do is say polite nothings and try to get the users to shut up and keep editing. The only difference from the norm is that this time we got some of it too.
That said, please prove me wrong; if you think sending a more serious message would help, then by all means do so. If it helps, woot or something. Helping is good. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 17:35, 29 January 2012
Everything in your message, the tone, the intent and the message seems perfect to me lyrithya, but I would just replace the "dumb" part and get rid of the link to "wikia screwed up again". If we don't put them on the defensive, and if we let them know what is good and or works, then maybe (or probably Im just too idealistic) the message might be heard. Or am I not getting the real problem here? I drafted this...I'll happily send it, just let me know if I understand the real problem here, if this isn't as direct and agressive as it should be and if my message adresses it or not and if you think this would be helpful and any grammar correcctions would be appreciated.
We have established that we have consensus that the current setup is incompatible with our individual needs: while the majority of the site functions well [you might laugh at this part Lyrithya ;) though Ill probably include it], keeping it closed to allow wikis to implement their own needed features, makes both your creative work unusable and our own programming and problem solving difficult. It would be appreciated if the user preferences were something along the lines of what MediaWiki uses by default. This way, wikis could use your creative teams general user preferences system and program their own individual features without both your team and our programmers having to to twice the work nor face twice the problems.
--ShabiDOO 20:10, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
Unfortunately, without a link to the forum itself on which we demonstrate our consensus, there is no consensus. And the consensus was precisely that 'it is dumb', so there's not much hiding that. I also don't understand what you're trying to say with this line: "keeping it closed to allow wikis to implement their own needed features, makes both your creative work unusable and our own programming and problem solving difficult." 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 21:12, 29 January 2012
Keeping it closed, should probably be switched with "by not allowing individual wikis to implement their own...". If you still don't follow what I'm saying, I probably wont be able to explain myself properly in any other way.
I see what you mean about the link. I have no idea what dealing with them are really like, if they are staff or volunteers etc., all I'm saying is, we might reconsider labeling them as morons when we deal with them. I asume they're not that different to uncyclopedias batch of controlling jewish neo-free-masonary comunist dictator members of the cabal ;)
If more users send individualised messages, will it be helpful? --ShabiDOO 01:39, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
This might tell you more about Wikia. And yeah, this newer wordage seems clearer. Don't think multiple messages would help that much since then they'd just have to sort through more tickets saying effectively the same thing, but it could prove amusing to try. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 23:01, 30 January 2012
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