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Just uncovered: A Wikia administrator, Nicky (left), was taped talking to Mordillo (right) in 2011, which explains why he is no longer here to help us through this crisis of ownership. File footage courtesy of Aleister:
 
Just uncovered: A Wikia administrator, Nicky (left), was taped talking to Mordillo (right) in 2011, which explains why he is no longer here to help us through this crisis of ownership. File footage courtesy of Aleister:
 
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==A month further down the track==
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[[User:Mike the Great|Mike the Great]] is an active member of the community on the fork and is working - in part - to improve the site there. Bizzeebeever has been banned from this site for overtly advertising the fork. Almost every admin who said try would work across both sites has been absent from here for around a month. [[User:Hotadmin4u69|Hotadmin4u69]] added advertising into out nav tools that directs to the fork. [[User:Zombiebaron|Zombiebaron]] threw a tantrum when he was not quick enough to make Chief into a 'crat, and then decided that having a user that had been banned on the fork become an admin here would be funny. [[User:Lyrithya|Lyrithya]] has completely turned her back on this site, and now (surprise!) Illogicopedia is looking at moving onto the servers she controls. The structure behind the site, any form of statement that shows that the community retain control, details of this mysterious NFP that every is aware that Lyrithya has established but nobody knows the details, and any deeper understanding of the financial structure of the fork are still hidden.
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I'm still looking for evidence of this “good faith”. So far, no luck. {{User:PuppyOnTheRadio/sig3|10:44 24 Feb 2013}}

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Just a form to sort this out with.

Put an asterisk (*) and your name ({{|U|Yournamehere}}) below if you are staying primarily on this site. If you are flipping between sites like myself, and scanning over edits to see if they should also be on the other site, then you aren't obliged to add yourself.

Thanks. A (Fallen Reich)23:07 6 January 2013

Is there a duplicate forum on the other site asking the same question? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 11:25, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
I don't think so. --Mn-z 15:18, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Your names under here

  • Mnbvcxz --Mn-z 14:01, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
  • PuppyOnTheRadio I was going to bounce between the two sites. I was happy for both of them to be successful, and saw no reason why they had to compete. I had significant issues relating to the motivation behind the fork, and I didn't want content that I had been predominantly instrumental in providing to be used on the new site. Of course today the Wikia based site was attacked by a vandal who understood this site well, knew the way the site worked, and could throw together a script designed to make maximum damage to this site. That kind of vandalism would only be done by someone with a gripe against the site. Given it has hit here, but left the fork untouched, that indicates it's someone instrumental in moving over to the other site, and technically minded enough to do that, and has a personal gripe against Wikia. Which narrows the list of people who could do this - and would do this - but not hit the fork - down to less than half a dozen.
That suggests the motivation behind the creation of the site was both personal and political. Given that my main reason for not wanting to support the fork was my distrust of the stated intentions - and true colours are shining through in less than a fortnight after the fork - there is now little to no chance that I will be contributing there.                               Puppy's talk page10:07 12 Jan
Yes, people who are completely in over their heads in terms of how to operate a server are over here wasting time vandalizing. Yes. And trolls at ED have no experience with MediaWiki, so it can't possibly be them. Yes. That makes all the sense in the world. Please have everyone who moved banned from Wikia. Yes. Good call. I love you, Puppy, but what you just said was the height of dickishness. Considering that you're a 37-year-old person, could you, in the future, please consider the things that you write before you say them? Or are you just completely lacking a filter between your keyboard and your brain? ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usSat, Jan 12 '13 14:12 (UTC)
Oh boy, please do tell us who on uncyclopedia.co performed this attack bearing in mind Mike the Great is actually an ED admin. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 10:45, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
The only thing I know Frosty is that you are an admin at Encyclopedia Dramatica as Oblique. This you admitted to last year in the first 2011 VFS forum. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 11:32, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Hmm I made the move simply because Wikia seemed an irritating host to me, most notably for the content warning, which appears to be an immovable object. I think both sites will suffer if the contributors are split, I really would have liked it if everyone had jumped ship but maybe it's inevitable that it won't work like that . What is for sure is that the more energy we devote to vandalism and sniping, the less fun both sites will be. If the Wikia site is down for 20 minutes, people aren't going to come running over to the other site and vice versa. It's a complete waste of time, and will only serve to make people take sides. Puppy, I hope you revise your opinion and play on both sides of the tracks, that seems a really nice happy medium to me. If the vandal was someone from the new site, that's lame, and it wasn't done in all our names. --Leverage (talk) 11:39, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Calm heads must prevail. There is no proof that anybody closely associated with any uncyclopedia site had anything to do with the vandalism. Coding expertise is not limited to those who've edited here long term, and this dick may be the first of many. Like sharks circling, vandals hear that the site has been left and want a piece of the tasty bits. I was just at wikipedia and noticed a category they have which protects articles against being moved. Could that help? I hope, Puppy, that you change your mind, innocent until proven dick (and say it was a new-site guy, I point the finger at Sog, who should be stripped of his Hall of Shame membership for doing what he just did - nobody else there probably knew about it). I commend Frosty for helping with the vandal clean-up (is it done?), and would hope that lots of people at .co want to protect this site and see it go into a state similar to Uncyclopedia is almost full. I will, of course, continue to hang out on both sites, and I think everyone should imnho. Aleister 11:45 12-1-'13
I understood the fork was a choice. Some go, some stay, some work both sides of the street and others sleep soundly. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 12:37, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
An admin could make (and apparently has) a checkuser request to Sannse. That would prove if the vandals had the same IP address as anyone in the Free Uncyclopedia community. --Mn-z 13:51, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
I have asked Sannse to check on what happened last night. That's all, no finger pointing. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 15:19, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
I assure you those behind the vandalism were not Uncyclopedians involved in the move and that Frosty had nothing to do with it. Consider this an official statement if you'd like, not that I officially speak for anyone, at least not that I know of. I believe BB also very effectively summed up the matter in terms of practicality. -— Lyrithya 19:12, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Sog, no doubt in my mind. Strip him of his features, is what I'd do. And yeah, check user is a good idea /walks slow, then runs away
Means, motive, opportunity. I agree with BB in that others have the means to do this. The opportunity to do this is open to everyone. The motive is the sticking point. If you had an issue with Uncyclopedia, then it makes no sense to ignore the fork completely and just concentrate on the Wikia hosted site. Given that those who split the community to the fork have been bending over backwards to say that the community has “moved”, if you had a beef with the community, wouldn't you go where the community has gone to? Especially knowing that the technical support on the forked site is done by About three amateurs, and it's a bug ridden nightmare. If you wanted to trash Uncyc, than only an idiot would attack here and ignore elsewhere. Check user will show is the IP address of the person who did the vandalism - and if you're clever enough to be able to create that script then putting up a dummy IP won't be difficult. There are other possibilities, of course, but short of a smoking gun then I'll use Occam's razor to determine the most likely vandal.                               Puppy's talk page10:07 12 Jan
Hmm, maybe because en.uncyclopedia.co has more than one admin who is awake at any one time? NO, THAT CAN'T BE IT. Must've been Uncyclopedians. Yeah, screw those guys. ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usSat, Jan 12 '13 23:46 (UTC)
I guess I have to be some kind of adult here from time to time, which is boring and takes time away from important things. But Puppy, go boy, go and sign up at Uncyclopedia, which has saved your account and did a damn good job in saving your pages from some kind of tantrum. That site is us, everyone, duh. You could put up the mother in hell page and probably get it featured, at least I'd vote for it - that night was so much fun, one of the best I've had here. Romartus too, please, everyone sign up, you too msnbc, you are turning out to be a hell of a writer and I am very impressed. Welcome back. But everyone, Uncyclopedia is our home, that other site is home, dudes. But everyone there should haul ass back here once in awhile and help out with some of the admin at Uncyclopedia. This site, right here, is going to be uncyclopedia's search engine destination for a long time. New people will come here, hundreds if not thousands of them (wikia won't let us look at the site traffic numbers, WTF is that?), and they will see the best face of uncyclopedia we can give them while directing them in no uncertain terms if they're bright enough to catch it, where the site is that will be the most interesting form of uncyclopedia. This place has to shine like it always has, lights on and working. But telling them to go to the other site, duh, best of both worlds? This is our home too. So please, stop it, I need to do other things and write some stuff. Apology if I talked too much like I'm ordering people to do things, but someone has to do that for at least a few minutes or this place could fucking fall apart. Aleister 1:05 13-1-'13
  • Puppy, your comments here show an amazing level of ignorance, and frankly I am shocked to learn how low your opinion of your fellow Uncyclopedians is. What happened to "assume good faith"? From what I saw of the vandalism (haven't been around very much since school started) it looks like standard uncreative page move vandalism. All of us who worked hard to move the site did so with the best of intentions and a deep rooted love for the community, and I know none of us would turn around and do something petty and destructive like this. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 02:10, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I've got to put another interpretation out there... if it was our unmentionable and yet strangely cute neighbors over on ED, then vandalizing just one of the two versions of Uncyclopedia would be one way to increase tension and drama between the two, and so (as I understand they call them) "teh lolz". In which case, this forum is yummy. -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 00:54, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's "teh lulz". But OK. ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usTue, Jan 15 '13 1:23 (UTC)
Sanse...we all know it was you. Now fess up or we will all start spanking you...and NOT in the way that you oh so love! --ShabiDOO 03:02, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, it was that damn Sanse. Thank goodness no one thinks it might be me -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 20:45, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
I still think Sanse is actually a sockpuppet of Sansse. (And my phone apparently autocorrects sockpuppet as sick puppy.)                               Puppy's talk page11:03 15 Jan
Your phone knows....... -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 21:04, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Mordillo's missing in action explained

Just uncovered: A Wikia administrator, Nicky (left), was taped talking to Mordillo (right) in 2011, which explains why he is no longer here to help us through this crisis of ownership. File footage courtesy of Aleister:

A month further down the track

Mike the Great is an active member of the community on the fork and is working - in part - to improve the site there. Bizzeebeever has been banned from this site for overtly advertising the fork. Almost every admin who said try would work across both sites has been absent from here for around a month. Hotadmin4u69 added advertising into out nav tools that directs to the fork. Zombiebaron threw a tantrum when he was not quick enough to make Chief into a 'crat, and then decided that having a user that had been banned on the fork become an admin here would be funny. Lyrithya has completely turned her back on this site, and now (surprise!) Illogicopedia is looking at moving onto the servers she controls. The structure behind the site, any form of statement that shows that the community retain control, details of this mysterious NFP that every is aware that Lyrithya has established but nobody knows the details, and any deeper understanding of the financial structure of the fork are still hidden.

I'm still looking for evidence of this “good faith”. So far, no luck.                               Puppy's talk page10:44 24 Feb 2013

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