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A while ago we decided to Op Lyrithya based upon her ability to write, coding nous, and her previous experience as an administrator elsewhere. Since that point in time a significant percentage of the community here have felt that she has become more of a dtriment than an asset to the community. I have now gotten to the point where I feel that I cannot contribute effectively here while she still remains as an admin, as her abuse of position and harassment and bullying of members based upon whim and favouritism is destroying the wiki. As I am currently not the most popular person amongst the administration of the wiki, I fully expect to be banned for even bringing this point up.

However, in the interest of a fair and democratic practise, I'm now raising a vote to decide on wether or not we should remove Lyrithya's administration rights. In the interest of reducing drama I'm going to ask that people vote with {{For}}/{{Against}} or '''For''' / '''Against''' and preface their votes with a bullet point. If you wish to make a non-vote comment, please add it in the comment section at the base of the page.

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Score: -12
  • Symbol for vote For. Of course.                               Puppy's talk page03:13 07 May
  • Symbol for vote For. --Hotadmin4u69 [TALK] 03:44 May 7 2012
  • Symbol for vote For.. She's a lunatic I tell ya. LUNATIC. 2nd Chance for me (because I was banned.) (Say) 12:35, May 7 2012
  • Symbol against vote Against. Rather not, no. Also lol at "in the interest of reducing drama." -RAHB 03:50, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. We all have our issues and our differences. Sure she could benefit from making her criticism of other users apply to her also, but thats a little extreme. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 06:41, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against.--Funnybony Icons-flag-th Agnideva-small.jpg AGT-logo-small.jpg 07:30, May 7
  • Symbol against vote Against.. I am for sysop accountability but I don't see how this vote can be constructive in the circumstances. I also don't like how the question suggests it's either one user or another who can stay here. That's petty and personal in my view. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 08:16, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. an invaluable member of our team, although she's a bit insane.--fcukmanLOOS3R! Desu desu 08:53, May 7, 2012 (UTC).
  • Symbol against vote Against. where is the proof of the bad things she has done? Gabriel Turner (talk) 09:53, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. The only person who ever seems to have a major issue with her is Puppy, who has brought this up in another forum a while ago. Personally, I have never found her to be abusive. She isn't even active anymore anyway, so de-opping her would accomplish nothing but saying "We don't like you," which would cause more drama. --Pwn head Sir Xam Ralco the Mediocre 10:42, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. Puppy is the best. Seriously. And Lithuania or however the name is spelled should realize that, and make up with him. Puppy's tried in the past to do that, and gotten shot down. So fuck Lusitania for not playing nice, but deopping is reserved only for Socky. Evil Socky. Bad bad Socky. Aleister 10:48 7-5-12
  • Symbol for vote For.Haha, Lithuania, Lusitania. That was funny. --A rose for you the dorky contralto Mexico flag Samsung flag korea Flag of Brazil Flag of Bangladesh 00:22, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
  • Abstain I don't think she's done anything that warrants being de-opped, even though she's been bullying some users to death recently. Nit picking and harping on users over non-issues and stuff no one cares about can never be good for anything. Also...I move that we call a vote to change Socky's user name to Socky-the-gay-Belgian-love-slave. --ShabiDOO 11:03, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
    To quote Lyrithya completely out of context, "O_o". Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 13:16, 7 May 2012
    MOTION SECONDED. ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usMon, May 7 '12 14:05 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Like Shabidoo, I abstain. Lyrithya does throw her weight around. She bans people when a simple conversation with them would make more sense. She is occasionally vindictive, and a bit impulsive. Her Javascripting is horrid. She thinks this is Wikipedia. Her cat is ugly. Her mother is a bitch. Lastly, she accepts money in exchange for sex. However: she writes guud, her CSS skills are decent, she makes an effort to improve the wiki (or at least, she did, before she decided that Wikipedia was more fun), and she hasn't banned me in the last three months. So...yeah. Abstain. ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usMon, May 7 '12 11:34 (UTC)
Cat the Colourful Cat
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TALK - 11:43, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
Umm... I made this one new cool template which you are watching RIGHT NOW WATCH IT OR YOU'LL DIE and I wrote about it to Ly. Ly didn't respond me, Ly very bad person, but... still she does have a big meaning to me and my existence. And everyone has those days that 'oh fuck Uncyclopedia sux I hate that place I'm not gonna go there whatever Puppy tells to other people'. So... She does not deserve to be stabbed in the back while she's not watching (or de-opped whatever you want to call it). I would call it Symbol against vote Against..
  • Symbol against vote Against. This forum is pointless when we could just as easy march to her house in real life with pitchforks and burning torches and throw dog poo at her roof while chanting “D-fence” until our throats are coarse and our genitals swollen. I understand and I wish to continue. HauntedUndies2. 11:52, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. Per Bizzeebeever, mostly (I haven't had the privilege of making her mother's acquaintance yet). Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 13:10, 7 May 2012
  • Symbol against vote Against. She's stubborn and insane, therefore displaying adminship qualities. Seriously, I think she's fair. Maybe having just a little more diplomacy would make her more popular, but I like her insanity. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 13:22, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Against. This is ridiculous. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 16:02, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. I haven't seen the kind of behavior that would warrant de-opping on a large scale. Per Aleister, POTR and Lyrithya need to reconcile, not continue this drama. On a wiki of this size, not everyone is going to get along, sadly. However, banning the unhappy users isn't the solution. If one person feels they have been banned unfairly, they can go on IRC and appeal the ban. Both of you should try to see the situation from the other's point of view. -- Simsilikesims(♀UN) Talk here. 20:12, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. Aleister said it. Time heals all wounds. It will. MrN Icons-flag-gb HalIcon.png WhoreMrn.png Fork you! 20:40, May 7
Symbol neutral vote Abstain. Changing my mind because of something which ShabiDOO said above, and this thing. I'm not currently completely comfortable with Lyrithya's judgement as an Uncyc admin. MrN Icons-flag-gb HalIcon.png WhoreMrn.png Fork you! 00:03, May 15
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. - Nonetheless, bringing about votes such as these over what amounts to basically personal issues between two people is pretty gay. -- Prof. Olipro Icons-flag-gb KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 04:56, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
    Trust me, it's not just Pup who's pissed at her. ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usTue, May 8 '12 6:03 (UTC)
    Take it up with her on her talk page or IRC and try to work it out. If all else fails, dance like you've never danced before. --ShabiDOO 10:49, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
  • At first I was like Symbol against vote Against. because this is an obvious exacerbation of drama that should have ended when, well, Puppy was banned for exacerbating drama. But then I was like Symbol for vote For. because he makes pretty salient points about Lyrithya's stubborn behavior and talent at being seriously petty oftentimes, and that precedent of conversation between the two users has only ended with even more exacerbated drama (see: the signature argument). But then I saw Lyrithya's sublimely measured response below, which slightly reassured my faith in her humanity, and I was like Symbol against vote Against. again. But then I realized I was already thinking about this dumb little waste of time too much and decided just to say Symbol neutral vote Abstain.. Let's all go back to writing funny things or writing nothing at all. --Littleboyonly TKFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Oldmanonly 12:25, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. I have no opinion as I can see none of the issues raised. I think they are both good contributors but should get over it. I agree there should be more accountability for admins. I feel left out as the only person on the site who apparently wasn't invited to comment. --C₂H₆O (hic) 12:43, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. Simply because Puppy actually took the effort to notify me of this forum, and hence I feel obliged to throw in my two cents. However, I DO believe that we should have refused her adminship when she was reluctant to accept it. That way, none of the issues would have cropped up in the first place. *sigh*, you can't fight destiny.... --Scofield & 1337 16:57, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Comment

For the record she has made a mere 4 edits in the past week, I don't see how this can cramp an editing style. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 08:22, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

And each one has been a snipe at someone. Yes, there is a personal element here, but it's not petty. If we had to vote to op someone, would you vote for her?                               Puppy's talk page08:27 07 May
Does that mean we can de-op everybody? -RAHB 08:29, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
One at a time.                               Puppy's talk page08:30 07 May

It's always easy to give a critique of someone who has for the moment lost face in the community. The problem is that there are aggravating behaviors done by both admins and users that often make someone who's proverbially had the final straw look like a completely irrational nutcase. Being open and transparent with these concerns is admirable, coming back from a weeks ban and then starting this is less so and does little to address what are, I suspect, very real concerns.--Sycamore (Talk) 08:47, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

I still haven't been given a reason for the ban beyond "don't start drama" for trying to address these concerns. I'm now addressing them in the nicest possible of ways.                               Puppy's talk page08:50 07 May
Wasn't it Zombiebaron that made the ban in question? Or was Lyrithya involved too? Sorry for being so uninformed about this matter. : / Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 13:40, 7 May 2012
It was ZB. I was complaining about Lyrithya.                               Puppy's talk page01:06 08 May
Got something against ambidextrous cunning linguists? ◄► UnUnUn ium ◄► 09:26, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Nominator invited me here, and I am not voting. Romartus votes, above: "I am for sysop accountability but I don't see how this vote can be constructive in the circumstances. I also don't like how the question suggests it's either one user or another who can stay here. That's petty and personal in my view." I concur on all counts, except that I don't see how such a vote can be constructive in any circumstances. Further to Gabriel's vote, I see neither proof nor even a list of the offenses. Only an assertion about a feeling of a "significant portion of the community" that I cannot measure.

Am aware that in the last month, she initiated drama over MrN's timestamp, and also that she opposed Puppy on VFS primarily on the basis that saying he had come to learn technical secrets that might be misused. Both issues seemed ridiculous, but I'll assume that there is other comparable drama that I haven't followed. Uncyclopedia is attractive both for cranking out funny material and for bossing around other people. Rather than responding to episodes with personal punishment, there ought to be a system in place to ensure that all the bossing around is in service to the cranking out--the way Mordillo used to do it. Spıke ¬ 10:54 7-May-12

Where the hell is Mordillo, anyway? ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usMon, May 7 '12 11:36 (UTC)
In Israel, probably. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 13:11, 7 May 2012
Everything on this wiki is in service to my cranking out. I have made it so. --ChiefjusticePS2 11:40, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
Spike, the oppose I put on the VFS for concerns regarding judgement in general; the specifics were just examples why I was concerned. As for the signatures... well, you got me there. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 07:43, 8 May 2012
I concede the first point and restate my comment more precisely. Please take to heart what you can from this episode about judgement in general. Spıke ¬ 10:55 8-May-12

This is pointless...

Lyrithya has become too powerful; the only way to destroy it is to first destroy all of her other cross-wiki accounts, thus rendering it mortal. --Black Flamingo 22:35, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

GO VOTE ON VFH INSTEAD OF LOSING YOUR TIME HERE!! Wait, I am also editing here... :S Snowflake mini Mattsnow 22:47, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
I believe Mattsnow is jealous of the attention Lyrithya is getting here. Ban Mattsnow!!! Aleister 23:42 7-5-'12
The secret behind Lyrithyas power is in her adrenal glands. Sabotage her sinuses and you can destroy her with one strike! --ShabiDOO 23:54, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure you have to be the heir of Famine for that to work. --Black Flamingo 14:04, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Response from Lyrithya

Puppy, it was never my intent to upset you. I admit I overreacted about the signatures two months ago; such a response was completely unwarranted, for which I can only apologise, and I hope we can put that behind us. I also will not censor myself, however - if I believe something will damage the site, I will speak out; I'm sorry if more recent criticism was taken personally, but I knew of no better way to say it.

That said, if any of you have specific issues that you can back up with diffs that you would like to take up with me, please do so. Obviously I am far from perfect and the environment here doesn't exactly help matters, so please, let's make this productive for a change. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 07:43, 8 May 2012

This diplomatic and nice answer brings tears to my eyes (literally, or at least once I get this damn onion juice off my eyelids). We are the world, we are the children. Aleister 11:50 (UTC)
Just a shame it took 2 months and this forum to get that apology. On an unrelated note... If you want to know the true measure of a person... Look at how they act and react when they are wrong about something. It's easy to be right when you are right, but being right when you are wrong? That's a lot more difficult. On an unrelated note... Right? I may be wrong. Who knows. MrN Icons-flag-gb HalIcon.png WhoreMrn.png Fork you! 12:37, May 8
Well, so much for good faith. Thank God irony is still alive, though! (Oh shit I'm not supposed to be editing this, are I? My bad) --Littleboyonly TKFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Oldmanonly 19:04, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

This forum

does not have enough penis jokes. That is all. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 07:46, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Moneytits. -RAHB 08:17, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
Frosty, sadly I think you're wrong.                               Puppy's talk page09:50 08 May
I am so right! ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 10:25, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
I once had a penis that was one hell of a penis! --ShabiDOO 11:04, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
Zombiebaron once put an ad in a newspaper, reading "Penis wanted." He got five hundred replies, all reading "take mine please!" ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usTue, May 8 '12 11:40 (UTC)
They love to tell jokes on Pen Island, a quiet little one-stop enisled paradise. Though if you visit, what you don't want to happen is having your presence aggravate the local ape nisus. ◄► UnUnUn ium ◄► 13:42, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
I'm cutting my thesaurus into a shiv, right this moment. You better watch out, Un. ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usTue, May 8 '12 13:47 (UTC)
*Pbbt!* Loser. I'm cutting my thesaurus into a bayonet, a blade, a bolo, a cutlass, a cutter, a cutting edge, a dagger, an edge, a lance, a lancet, a machete, a point, a ripper, a sabre, a scalpel, a scimitar, a scythe, a shank, a sickle, a skewer, a skiver, a steel, a stiletto, a switchblade, a sword and a tickler. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 14:27, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
I knew this guy once, Peter Johnson, he had a rooster once he named Willy. That old fellow was quite the pecker, often gets himself in trouble like a bird-brained dingaling. Once took a bush snake for a morning snack, then there was the time he let his beak prick Fang, the neighbor's vicious dachshund. That runt of a wiener dog was small, but one bite that could cut through chicken bone like a soft sausage could have ended him there, a wood rod to the dog's nose saved him that time, though might have left a swollen knob on the poor canine. That cock would probably have been more useful as fresh meat though, and you know the dog wouldn't have left a scrap, would've gulped down the whole package, organs and all and picked his teeth with a feather shaft. The owner was a real tool, but I suppose he thought of his pet as a member of the family or some such diddly.
Now you try picking them all out of that and you'll start seeing innuendos everywhere. ◄► UnUnUn ium ◄► 14:37, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
Are you implying what we think you are implying? that all of those words contain both consonants and vowels? That's a pretty predictable and contrite joke UU! --ShabiDOO 17:10, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
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