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On the Forum For Illogicopedia it was suggested by ZeroTrousers that there be a couple of pages pages created on illogicopedia and Uncyclopedia for voting for transwiki of articles. These Would be a voted system with voting at each end of the system, So a User Could put up an article s/he thinks should be in the other wiki. Then there is a vote to see if the article should be Moved to the other wiki. Then if the article has a majority it is moved over and added to the VAU page on the other wiki. The users on the other wiki then vote to dicide if they think the article should be accepted and then if the article has a majority on the VAU page then it is accepted into the wiki, if the vote fails the article is deemed as unacceptable for either wiki and is deleted. Does this sound like a good idea to you?

So this is how it would work:

VFT (vote for illogicopedia Transwiki)>>>VAU (Vote Acceptance of article from Uncyc)
VAU (Vote Acceptance of article from Illgicopedia)<<<VFT (vote for uncyc Transwiki)

--Sir Silent Penguin Penguin foot "your site makes no sence" The illusion is complete 15:53, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Comments and suggestions

  • Ummm...what language is "illogicopedia"? I seem to forget all the diffrent names. Also, would the articles be translated into english? -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 15:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Illogicopedia is in english. It is a randomness site rather than comedy, i remember people saying many "good" articles would fit better under Random than humo(u)r better, Basicly im proposing an article sharing system.--Sir Silent Penguin Penguin foot "your site makes no sence" The illusion is complete 16:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

  • I like the sharing idea, but it sounds like a lot of extra voting work to me. It would mean effectively two VFDs - one for outright deletion and one for moving. How about making it an offshoot of VFD, so that if we decide to delete something on grounds of randomness it gets forwarded to a vote for Illogicopedia transfer? As for the other direction, we've never voted things in before - just stick it on and we'll ICU it if we don't like it. Whatever happens, it's gonna need one heck of a good system of coordination. --Strange (but) Untrue  Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 17:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
...While we're on this subject btw, as far as I'm concerned I don't have time for another wiki, so if something gets transwikied it's as good as deleted for me. (Do others agree?) I'd just like to say that if all the good but slightly more random articles (Category:Self-reference, etc) currently accepted by Uncyc start slowly getting filtered out and moved over on grounds that they're not actually being deleted, I'm frankly likely to lose interest in the whole business. I'm sure it won't happen, I'm just saying we need to make sure it doesn't. Oh dear, how very melodramatic. Quick, say something to ruin it! What ho, Mr Plibble! Phnurr! --Strange (but) Untrue  Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 17:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I designed the method so that articles that the community deemed as inappropriate could be filtered out and deleted, Thus meaning no content is lost. Im not worried how uncyc decides how to pick which articles to keep and delete, as long as there is some sort of communication between the two wikis, If you want you could add an extra option to the VFD page if you wish, its not up to me to say how it should be done, im just suggestiong one way it could be done.--Sir Silent Penguin Penguin foot "your site makes no sence" The illusion is complete 18:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey hey I designed the method.--User:Zerotrousers/sig 08:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree with SBU, too much extra work. I suggest you and the other illogicopedians check VFD and ICU periodically, and copy whatever is about to be deleted and you think it's appropiate for illogicopedia under your own chriteria. In VFD, add notes to the comments asking for the articles to be moved to your namespace, or give you some time to move them directly to illogicopedia. If you need to filter what gets in illogicopedia, maybe you can take the articles to a waiting lounge, but make it over there, so you don't have to involve the rest of us in the filtering and complicate our deleting process. About what comes in, again I agree with SBU, post here whatever you think is appropiated, we'll vote it out if it's not.---Asteroid B612B612 (aka Rataube) - Ñ 19:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Also, it's not so bad if the two wikis have a small overlap. Even if the material you take from here doesn't get deleted in the end, it's ok. Just make sure to make the attributions under CC or GFDL in any case.---Asteroid B612B612 (aka Rataube) - Ñ 20:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I just think this whole thing would just be a whole lot easier if we had different pages to accept articles. About the extra work thing that SBU pointed out, you don't have to vote on it. The only people who will really be using it at all will be me, silent penguin, hindleyite, flameviper and nerd42. We will have to have an acceptance page, we can't just load random articles from another wiki to this one.--User:Zerotrousers/sig 21:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Sure, you can make the accepting page in your namespace. But if you mix your acceptance process with uncyc's current deletion system it will indeed be much more work for us to do (a lot easier for you 5, but not for the rest of us). If, for instance, as SilenteP suggested, we added an "send to illogicopedia" option in VFD it will couse endless cases of confusion and people asking what's that illogicopedia option is for. I still remember all the mess we had with the rewrite votes and such, beofre we changed it into only two clearcut options, keep or delete. What other people may do with the articles voted out of the mainspace does not concern us anymore. I symphatize with your desire to make something useful of that content, but messing with the VFD system is not worth it. BTW, Hidleyete can rescue any deleted content.---Asteroid B612B612 (aka Rataube) - Ñ 23:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Here, it's under my namespace. To prevent too much extra work to people not involved with ?pedia, I've kept it seperate from vfd.--User:Zerotrousers/sig 08:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think there should be any moving of articles off-wiki. If they're vfd'd here, by all means copy them over under the terms of the licence, but if it would survive vfd here, it should stay. You can still copy them over as long as you keep within the licence. Though I'm not sure how compatible CCBYNCSA articles are on GFDL wikis. Spang talk 05:26, 18 Apr 2007

First off, what the hell are CCBYNCSA and GDFL wikis. Please explain. also, how about an article which is being succesfully nominated for deletion is discussed under my namespace by all the illogicopedia members while it is on illogicopedia. This will prevent extra work for all the vfd regulars.--User:Zerotrousers/sig 06:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
CCBYNCSA and GFDL. —Braydie 19:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
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