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You know, I've been thinking about the constant attempts to recreate and delete the article "This page does not exist." We have links to that article. Doesn't that encourage numbnuts to create it? Shouldn't the point of us deleting an article to discourage the article's creation? So I propose we remove all links to that article. Who's with me? --Crazyswordsman...With SAVINGS!!!! (T/C) 00:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, this is a serious discussion. Don't take this the wrong way, please. --Crazyswordsman...With SAVINGS!!!! (T/C) 00:50, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Against. If there are no links to it, it doesn't even "not exist", it just doesn't exist. If you catch my drift. And if it just doesn't exist, it paradoxically doesn't matter if someone creates it. Basically, I think TPDNE is always going to take a little bit of work now and then. With great funny comes great responsibility, and all that. --Strange (but) Untrue  Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 00:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Can't it just be protected as a blank article, like Um, African-Americans used to be?Icons-flag-us Love:M.D--Dr. Love 01:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
No, because then it would exist. --Crazyswordsman...With SAVINGS!!!! (T/C) 02:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
If there's no links to it, then it's no fun. It's better that it's entirely possible to create, and well linked, but it just doesn't exist. Spang talk 10:22, 19 Jun 2007

Other articles that do not exist

--L 05:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

My point exactly. All these don't exist, and yet they are not This page does not exist. There's something a bit mystical in there somewhere. --Strange (but) Untrue  Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 09:55, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Still, they're no worthy rival for The page that does not exist... at least not here.
Why? We're on an outdated MediaWiki version. Version 1.9. If we were running version 1.11 like Desciclopédia or Wikipedia, we could protect non-existent pages.
And no, I have no idea what any of this has to do with <DPL> vs. <DynamicPageList>, something Wikia seems to be invoking as an obstacle to any upgrade. The dynamic page list is not part of core MediaWiki code; it is an extension. The original (old, old) version had <DynamicPageList> as the tag, the next version (DPL2) switched the tag to <DPL> as the extension's authors seemed to think that sites would want to install both versions of the same extension on the same wiki... no idea why. There's now a third version, DPL, to add a little more confusion. Maybe the antiquated version of the extension doesn't work on newfangled computers that run on electricity instead of coal? --Carlb 16:05, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

A couple of broader questions?

  • When admins delete a page (VFD, QVFD, just felt like it, whatever), should they also be expected to remove any red links thus created? Currently, this is routinely not done and the result is that the page is most often recreated... as even lower-quality than whatever the admin just deleted.
  • When pages are put on Uncyclopedia:CVP, should there be some sort of expiry date after which they are removed? Almost all page names that are dumped there now seem to languish there forever, long after they've been long forgotten. No one checks whether they still need to be locked, or whether they can be huffed or redirected to valid, related articles that do exist. --Carlb 16:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • If there's an article in CVP that you want to create, I'm sure any admin would let a longtime contributor who they know not to write crap write the article. --Crazyswordsman...With SAVINGS!!!! (T/C) 22:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Part 1 would be nice, but it's really never going to happen unless we got a team going to take care of it. These n00by authors seem to have a lot more time to spam their pages all around the site than anyone else has time to clear them all up. And CVP could rightly do with a clear out I guess, but I'd not rate it very highly on the Admin Things To Do list. --Strange (but) Untrue  Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 23:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
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