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It has too much stuff. Mainly the interaction thing - it's twice as big as Wikipedia's, and a lot of it is pretty redundant. And the projects thing is bloody giant if you don't have javascript...

Anyway, I guess I'm asking...

  • Do you people use all of that?
  • Which ones do folks use?
  • Would there be a better way to group some of these?
  • Should we perhaps start using the Community Portal at some point?
  • What, even, is the Community Portal?
  • In fact, what are most of those, and how should a new user or reader or random passerby even know what they're for? I mean, I don't even know. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:26, 17 September 2011
Here are my answers: Yes, all of them, no, yes to join the Folding@home team, a way to find the link to Uncyclopedia's Folding@home team and who cares. --ChiefjusticePS3 16:34, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
That's not exactly filling me with confidence. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:52, 17 September 2011
You're already full of something else. Yes, that's right. You're full of candy. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 17:04, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
I like candy. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 17:16, 17 September 2011
i herd u liek me. u rly rly liek me!!! --Evildemon PLEB SIR Lollipop (TALK) - updated on 20 September 2011, at 01:40
I like it when you do things for me. Naughty things. Things like finishing roofing my shed for half-pay so I don't feed you to my cats. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 02:59, 20 September 2011
For the last time, i'm done with buying vibrating mouse toys for your sexually encouraged cat. Ask Magic man to do that for you, he visits "pet"shops most every day. --Evildemon PLEB SIR Lollipop (TALK) - updated on 20 September 2011, at 04:22

I use the sidebar all the time. You can get rid of the projets, and the toolbox, but let everything else stay. Seriously, i use it every time i come on, it's good. Fuck the community portal, and the ones i use are the following: Village Dump, Chatroom, VFH, VFP, Upcoming events, and Things to do. Although I dontr use the projects tab that much, at least keep HowTo therr, everyone loves that. A (Ruins) 01:39, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

I agree its gotten pretty big over the years. When I last edited the sidebar, I tried to compensate by adding the most vital links under "Navigation" and "Interaction" (mirroring Wikipedia) and the "classic" sidebar under "Community". Though I don't use the sidebar as much as I used to, I did rely heavily Things to do during my early years here. I think it'd be helpful for a lot of newer users (especially those who might not be comfortable using Special:SpecialPages or Category:Uncyclopedia maintenance). Personally, I think the best way to reorganize the sidebar is to use Wikipedia's version. Anything leftover could be sorted into a third section or maybe incorporated into something like Wikipedia's recent changes header? MadMax 03:01, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, why not. Just need to not completely overdo it like they did... *shifty eyes* 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 03:00, 20 September 2011
The community portal should be revamped. It would be a great chance to make a page with a comprehensive list of the links that any uncuyclopedia would need and give new users a good idea of the various spaces on uncyclopedia. Im willing to take part in a revamps--ShabiDOO 18:45, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
Great. Please do. Like, in userspace for now, though. Or something. Totally. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 02:59, 20 September 2011
I say keep them all there, they are all useful in my view. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 07:54, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
All 40 links? Feel free to express that opinion by voting below. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:56, 20 September 2011
OK you're right, there are some who are useless, but the majority is useful. I'll vote against the useless ones. But there should be a link that links to all these links who are mildly useful, do you get my drill? Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:39, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
Just finished the first version of the recent changes template. MadMax 09:11, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, what exactly does that template do, MadMax? Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 09:18, 20 September 2011
It's a version of Wikipedia's recent changes template to replace the current one. In theory, it could be used for links removed from the sidebar. MadMax 09:27, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Enough!

Time to put this bugger to a vote! Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:26, 20 September 2011

Navigation

Main page

Score: 2

Featured content

Score: 5

Current events

Score: 4
  • Symbol for vote For. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. A (Ruins) 17:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote Fortress of solitude Uh-huh. Yep. ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote For.. --ShabiDOO 14:00, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. Mnid talk 15:11, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Recent changes

Score: 8

Random article

Score: 4
  • Symbol for vote For. Good tool to find VFD crap. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. A (Ruins) 17:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote Fur. ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote For.. --ShabiDOO 14:00, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • I like to see if I'm not banned :) Mnid talk 15:11, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. DJMIXERR (talk)(contributions) DJ Mixerr 04:27, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Requested articles

Score: 4
  • Symbol for vote For. Helps noobs Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. Yeah those bastards. A (Ruins) 18:01, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote 'Stain. ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote For....seriously! --ShabiDOO 14:00, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote AGAINST!!! Mnid talk 15:11, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote Keep For creating old and new articles also ideas. DJMIXERR (talk)(contributions) DJ Mixerr 04:29, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

All of the above

Score: TKF + For + Filial Piety +HALP! = PROFIT!!!

Interaction

Help

Score: 4
  • Symbol for vote For. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. Meh... A (Ruins) 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote Obviously. Think of the n00bs! ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote For.. --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. Mnid talk 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

About Uncyclopedia

Score: 4
  • Symbol for vote For. Great for new visitors I guess. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. A (Ruins) 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. one, it links to HTBFANJS, which is the frikking principle of the entire wiki, right along with AAAAAAAAA! and other in-jokes. ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote For.. --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. Mnid talk 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Community portal

Score: 2
  • Symbol for vote For. This link links to a lot of links that are proposed for deletion, so if it is maintained, I am in favor of eliminating the links that this link links to. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:59, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. A (Ruins) 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Stain on my shirt. ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote For.. --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • I'm still not sure what this is. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:07, 21 September 2011
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. Mnid talk 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

What's happening

Score: 3
  • Symbol for vote For. Looking at stats is fun. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 10:00, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. Definitely. A (Ruins) 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Nobody cares. ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote For.. --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. Not likely to mean anything to the average reader/user and also takes too long to load to be useful. Putting it on the recentchanges template would probably make more sense. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:07, 21 September 2011
  • Symbol for vote Weak, weak, for. Mnid talk 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Things to do

Score: 5
  • Symbol for vote For. It's a nice page to link to. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:34, 20 September 2011
  • Symbol for vote For. Good when you want to help but don't feel like writing an article. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. A (Ruins) 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Unknown ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote For.. --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • I still think this is redundant with the community portal. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:07, 21 September 2011
  • Symbol for vote Of course. Mnid talk 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Village Dump

Score: 7

Chatroom

Score: 5

Pee Review

Score: 3
  • Symbol for vote For. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. A (Ruins) 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote Forehead ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • comment: Symbol for vote For.. --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. Mnid talk 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Votes for Highlight

Score: 6
  • Symbol for vote For. VFH can never be whored enough. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 07:36, 20 September 2011
  • Symbol for vote For. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote What the fuck A (Ruins) 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote Foreskin C'mon, what is UN without VFF? ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol for vote For..THIS SHOULD BE IN BIG LETTERS AS THIS MIGHT BE A GREAT WAY TO ATTRACT GREATER READER PARTICIPATION --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. And Symbol for vote for Shabi's vote. Mnid talk 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Votes for Pictures

Score: 4

Upcoming events

Score: -5
  • Symbol against vote Against. There are few of them and they are always advertised on the top banner anyway Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. A (Ruins) 17:58, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Against That's what the sitenotice is for. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 18:07, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. It seems that ZB has a valid point. --Sai Jack Phoenix, professional killer admin (Whine?) (Wikia ads) 18:33, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Maybe so, maybe not. Just in case I change my mind, I'm not voting against. ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol for vote For.. --ShabiDOO 14:02, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. - Things to do/community portal/forums/sitenotice should already cover this - having the link relevant places (say, contest pages) for those curious certainly wouldn't hurt, though. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:07, 21 September 2011
  • Symbol against vote Per Lyrithya. Mnid talk 15:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Report a problem

Score: -1
  • Symbol against vote Against. If you know the site enough to identify a problem, you know the site enough to find an admin. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
But th n again, th r ar n w us rs who don't put th s The letter "e" in s nt nc s and can't find an admin. Mnid talk 20:57, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Projects

Score: 0
  • Symbol against vote Against. It's collapsed by default and therefore I never use it. --Sai Jack Phoenix, professional killer admin (Whine?) (Wikia ads) 18:33, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
    • Symbol comment vote Comment. The idea behind this was to try to promote the various projects here. If this isn't working, then perhaps we need a better idea (not that a better idea wouldn't necessarily be nice anyway), and if the projects themselves aren't worth promoting, well... you know. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 21:01, 20 September 2011
  • Symbol for vote .roF I think that this is a jolly good idea! Who's going to scroll down to the very bottom of them main page, anyway? ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol for vote For. - See my suggestion below. -- Simsilikesims(♀UN) Talk here. 02:32, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote NO Mnid talk 15:17, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. 85% of everything listed on here. DJMIXERR (talk)(contributions) DJ Mixerr 04:46, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Remove Projects section and put a link to a main Projects page in the main Navigation

Basically, that thing Simsilikesims was saying, but more... specific?

Score: -1
  • Honestly, against - I'd still contend that the things need as much visibility as possible, at least the main ones. Perhaps taking it down to four or five main ones and then having an All Projects page to link to for a complete overview and for the other ones would work better? 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:22, 21 September 2011

Babel

Score: -2
  • Against.This one is useless, since all the languages are listed at the bottom of the sidebar. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:35, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. A (Ruins) 18:01, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote C'mon, Babel is part of Uncyclopedia! ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol against vote Against. It is? But while linking here somewhere would definitely be useful to some folks, I don't think the sidebar is the best place. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:22, 21 September 2011

Bestiary

Score: -4

Game

Score: 2

HowTo

Score: 3 + a fake vote

UnBooks

Score: 3
  • Symbol for vote For. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. Whatever... A (Ruins) 18:03, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote Much more interesting than Wikibooks *cricket cricket* ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011

Uncycloversity

Score: -2

UnDebate

Score: 2

Undictionary

Score: 1

UnNews

Score: 2
  • Symbol for vote For. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. A (Ruins) 18:08, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Already listed above, at "Current events." ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol for vote For.. --ShabiDOO 14:03, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

UnPoetia

Score: 2
  • Symbol for vote For. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote No A (Ruins) 18:08, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abdominal Snowman! Symbol for vote Foreplay! ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol for vote For this and everything else that's close except for Babel No time to go through every listing, please add one more to everything when you count them, and that will be me. Thanks! Aleister 3:42 21-9-'11
  • As it is technically part of UnBooks, doesn't need to be here... but on the other hand, it is also basically its own project at this point. On the other other hand, it tends to utterly suck. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:22, 21 September 2011

Unquotable

Score: -1
  • Symbol for vote For. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 09:53, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote No A (Ruins) 18:08, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote .niatsbA ~Ths talkstalkblockarticles 02:15, 09/21/2011
  • Symbol against vote Against. Not maintained. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:22, 21 September 2011

UnReviews

Score: 1

UnScripts

Score: 1

UnTunes

Score: 3

Why?

Score: 2 + a fake vote

Additional things people might like to vote on

I will never vote on any of these in a million billion years because there are so many voting headers

Score: 0
  • Symbol for vote For. --ChiefjusticePS3 18:29, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol neutral vote Abstain. That's what I told myself at first, but once you start, it's a vicious cycle. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 20:28, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Well, funny story... I voted all at once on the toolbox section, than Zombiebaron submitted an edit during my edit, so I deleted all the shit he wrote and put back in the shit I wrote, which resulted in a nice, 24hr ban. A (Ruins) 23:15, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
    • points and laughs* Mnid talk 15:07, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Adding a link to the UnSignpost in the sidebar because people should look at it more often

Score: 5
PLEASE STOP! THAT IS FUNNY, IS IT NOT? Mnid talk 20:55, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. Yeah what the fuck....A (Ruins) 23:30, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Adding a link to Special:CreatePage

Score: 1
  • Symbol for vote For. The only downside is, it creates an easier way for vandals and spambots and IPs and 10-year-olds to add more poo. Mnid talk 21:07, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For a second there, I thought that was Jimmy Fallon with the "POO" sign. A (Ruins) 23:18, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against.. Per Mnid, who made all the right arguments to vote against his proposition! :) Snowflake mini Mattsnow 22:02, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
    Symbol for vote For Mattsnow's vote. Mnid talk 15:04, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Creating a separate page for summarizing UnProjects, along with a brief explanation of each on that page

Score: 3
  • Symbol for vote For. That way users without Javascript can just click on the Unprojects page, without having to go back to the main page, and the sidebar gets less complicated, with only one link to click on (similarly to how the help page is set up now). Also, there would be less to vote on. -- Simsilikesims(♀UN) Talk here. 02:30, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 11:14, 21 September 2011
  • Symbol for vote For. A (Ruins) 23:30, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

As a parody of Wikipedia, our sidebar should be as similar as possible to Wikipedia's

Score: -3
  • Nom and For. Our default sidebar should be as close to Wikipedia's as possible, and then users can add to their sidebar's using javascript. I have links to VFD, QVFD, BP, and UN:M in my sidebar that I find very useful. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 03:35, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. I don't have a problem with looking like Wikipedia, but I do have an issue with this fervent we-need-to-have-everything-exactly-like-Wikipedia-has-it-ism. So, being as similar as is desirable, but not to the point where it needlessly messes up the site? Yes. Being as similar as possible? Hell no. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 11:13, 21 September 2011
  • I'd say so, at least to a point - Wikipedia is just an encyclopaedia, but Uncyclopedia is like trying to parody bloody every wikimedia project mashed together along with a bunch of other unaffiliated wikis also thrown in. So... yeah. Eh. How do you even organise that? 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:12, 21 September 2011
  • Symbol against vote Against. Ergo Tintin. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 18:57, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Wikipedia sucks ass, remember? A (Ruins) 23:30, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote The balls are inert. -- Tinypony Sir "TheSlyPony" Invariably certifiable. 13:37 September 22, 2011 (UTC)

As a parody of Wikipedia we should have one useless link...like a link that you can't click on or that makes the screen blow up

Score: 3

A vote on whether to streamline the bloated sidebar by removing two links...then adding three new ones.

Score: 2
  • Symbol for vote A definite "For!" Why? Because folks don't do quite enough pointless things around here. Now, if you'll exqueeze me, I'm busy doing a terrible rewrite of a slightly more terrible article from VFD, which no one will ever read, and which will be deleted during the 2015 Forest Fire Week. ⇒»Biz E.B. Ver Icons-flag-us (gabble) 08:09, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. Symbol against vote Against. Symbol for vote For. Symbol for vote For. Symbol for vote For. A (Ruins) 23:07, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

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