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Is there any reason we haven't gone over to Wikipedia's new skin? Because, really, it seems like we should. We want to be a parody of Wikipedia, not an outdated parody of Wikipedia. I know we talked about this a few months ago, but... no one seemed to express any strong opinions, and nothing got either done or decided. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 17:42, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

For changing to the vector skin. MegaPleb Dexter111344 Complain here 17:44, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
Symbol for vote For changing to the vector skin, opping Hyperbole, and making him deal with all the bugs that moving to another skin will undoubtedly cause.  Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize  writings  SU&W) 18:08 Apr 01, 2011
Why do you think I waited until the day I got deopped to bring this up? Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 18:36, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
We'd have to get Wikia to enable/install it as an option, first. Or we could do what Inciclopedia did, just turn a monobook into it... it'd look more like Wikipedia while not having all the annoying quirks, nor some of the more useful bits, for that matter. I did steal their code and started fixing a bit, but even that would need work. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 18:56, 1 April 2011
Symbol for vote For Lyrithya. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 19:01, 1 April 2011
*grumble* I'll work on that, then. It'll go on my to-do list somewhere after vandalising Zim_ulator's userpage. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 20:40, 1 April 2011
Symbol for vote For. - Now for the bad news: we would need to get wikia to add the skin to the site's Mediawiki installation -- Prof. Olipro Icons-flag-gb KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 20:55, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
If you guys are talking about this ugly Facebok-esque layout, please please get rid of it. Symbol against vote Against.. AFD prank or not, do us all a favor. Thank you. PF4Eva, the King of Imagination talk Contributions 00:02, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not Wikia. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 20:54, 2 April 2011
I don't like the new wikipedia skin, and use the old one there (it's an option), mainly it's too blah light blue, and what's with that big hole in it's toolbar on top? Aleister 21:00 2-4-'11
Well, if it is properly installed as a skin, you'd be able to do that here, too. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 21:09, 2 April 2011
Indeed, Monobook will continue to exist; in any case, I will press wikia to get the fucking thing installed so those of us interested in getting it working can do so, people can then manually switch over to it, try it and we can all have a big orgy vote on whether to make it default -- Prof. Olipro Icons-flag-gb KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 04:21, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
Against. It puts the lotion on its skin. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 07:43, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol against vote Against. It would ruin Uncyclopedia's originality. - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 09:56, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
    Uncyclopedia's what?! Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 10:06, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it differentiates from Wikipedia. - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 10:17, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Which is bad because it defeats the whole "parody" thing we're going for. MegaPleb Dexter111344 Complain here 21:04, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ask Wikia (Politely) to Install the Skin

What this means: Users will have the option of using the new skin, allowing administrators and other supposedly competent people to begin working out the inevitable CSS bugs that will litter the skin.

What this does not mean: We are not voting to make the skin default, just asking Wikia to install the skin as an option. Whether or not it will be a default skin is a separate issue; this is just a matter of having the choice. Eventually I'm sure we'll have a long discussion filled with essays as to whether it'll become default, but for now, we're only talking about installing it.

Score: +9
  • Symbol for vote For. I don't believe we can have a proper discussion about the skin being default until we actually have the skin, period.  Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize  writings  SU&W) 17:19 Apr 04, 2011
  • For My only concern in implementing the Vector skin is how it will break pages such as Drawing (which is arguably broken right now anyway) and a few others. But yeah, we should do everything we can to look like the site we're parodying. Also, what's all this "politely" nonsense? We need to be forceful, like a jailhouse rapist who delivered the newspaper when he was younger. MegaPleb Dexter111344 Complain here 17:24, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
  • Indeed. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 17:40, 4 April 2011
  • I have trouble seeing any grounds on which anyone would oppose doing this. It is usually sensible to measure before you cut. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 18:13, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. They owe us one for the domain change. Explode fire Explode fireNeon Green Hammer And Sickle - Not particularly sincere, Sir ColinAYBExplode fireCUNExplode fireVFHExplode fireWhoringExplode fireMore Whoring Explode fireat01:42, Tuesday 05 April 2011 - Neon Green Hammer And SickleExplode fireExplode fire
  • Symbol for vote For. per the obvious reasons. Ajraddatz Talk 04:43, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. I like the suggestions on Wikipedia. When wroting letter A, I`d love to see AAAAAAAA! first there. Like when we had the Wikia-reskin. I loved that. Cat the Colourful (Feed me!) Zzz Sleeping Cat 04:48, 26 May, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. --Hotadmin4u69 [TALK] 06:19 May 26 2011
  • Symbol for vote For, But... I already asked, they said no, if we want this, we'll have to either scare them into doing it, or hack up Monobook -- Prof. Olipro Icons-flag-gb KUN (W)Anchor Op Bur. (Harass) 09:33, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ask Wikia (Rudely) to Install the Skin

What this means: Us alienating our host and possibly causing a big stink/losing our site. We all go back to living our boring real lives, drink a few beers, play a few games of Halo or Pacman 3D or some shit, and then eventually getting 9-5 jobs at the meat packing plant where we will get a few cursing asshole friends, lowered standards of life, and a smoking addiction.

What this does not mean: Us getting the skin.

Score: +1

For. I like to live dangerously. It's Mrthejazz... a case not yet solved. 03:46, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Get sidetracked and talk about bananas

I'll stick to the Uncyclopedia skin. ED are now going to have the "100% plagarism" joke on us now. - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 18:15, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...? 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 18:43, 4 April 2011

Yeah, the'll say we ripped off there joke and we ripped off Wikipedia's skin because That's how they work. The Head working little fuckers. - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 18:47, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

And I suppose next you're going to be criticizing Weird Al's "Amish Paradise" for plagiarizing some ideas from Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise." Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 18:48, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
Hype and Lyrithya are missing the most important point: UN:N MegaPleb Dexter111344 Complain here 18:50, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

at least Weird Al didn't steal at least 8% of it's content from other websites. I've come across quite a few jokes in articles which I've seen before on ED. Seriously (>_>) - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 18:52, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Weird Al "stole" the chord structure, the melody, the harmonies, the backup vocals, the instrumentation, the arrangement, and literally everything except the words themselves. 8% of the content? He stole 98%. It's something called "parody." What we do here is satire, but it works pretty much the same way. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 18:54, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Please red UN:PRAISE. This website has only 24 million views; Encyclopedia Dramatica has nearly 100 million. Do I need to say anything more? Hyperbole, I have reward you by saying Suddenly, Raccoons is one of the funniest articles I've ever read. But it is stolen From 4chan's " Suddenly, Bananas". Stealing from 4chan? Tsk tsk. - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 19:00, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

*hits Hyperbole and Another n00b both with a frying pan* 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 19:03, 4 April 2011
I'd never even heard of "Suddenly, Bananas" until just now. Sometimes, two people have similar ideas. I apparently also wrote the movie "Swing Vote" without ever seeing it. That's not the point. The point is that we skinned ourselves exactly like Wikipedia so we'd look like a satire of them. Then they changed their skin. Now you want us to look like Wikipedia-two-years-ago so we won't be "plagiarized"? That's fucking ridiculous. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 19:14, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I agree with you on that one (Although I do think the Wikipedia skin is almost as bad as Wikia's). There is still one thing pissing me off. Look at the images in the "Grue" Article. Then look at a picture of Domo-Kun. Rather similar, aren't they? Now, what annoys me is that, in "In-universe" perspective, it doesn't make sense. Does this mean Domo-Kun a Grue? Is Oscar Wilde really quoted Quoted over 2000 times? Doesn't make sense in my point of View.

Now this is the same with ED, I Know. But some-times it's really hard not to think "Hang on, what am I doing in this poor man's ED?". Because, to me and other ED users on this site. Apart from the Big ugly advertisements shown only when not logged in, this site does seem like it's much less angsty little brother. - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 19:27, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

ED is pretty much just angry teenagers saying "Check it out, I saw this on the Internet and it's a bunch of faggotry. Check it out, I called it faggotry, isn't that lulzy." God help us all if we're ever derivative of that. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 19:30, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think I'm more glad that where not Illogicopedia: " Look! Look! I made an article on some IP Address which vandalised my Userpage, and even though it's only 2 sentences long, and because it references yaks for some fucking God-damm reason it got featured! ". - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 19:34, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I know it's mean, but I really do think Illogicopedia is just people who failed to make the cut here. And ED is just for people who can't see any difference between angry and funny. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 19:37, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I failed the cut here. I'm so ashamed. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 19:42, 4 April 2011
Yeah, you'd be the obvious exception. And Romartus is over there for some reason, too, which I really, really, really don't get. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 19:45, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Glad to know I didn't "make the cut" here. MegaPleb Dexter111344 Complain here 19:48, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
Just to be painfully obvious, people who are here and have features here and do shit here made the cut here. People who are there but not here, are usually there but not here because their work would not be appreciated here. Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 19:53, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
I know it's not really not that mean, but I think Illogicopedia is just idiots who have some sort of sexual Paraphilia to either large yaks or Supermarket meat. And ED is just for people who want free porn without getting a virus (Oh, and write about "Internet memes". ) - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 19:43, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
And of course by "Internet memes" they mean "People imitating each others' shitty image macros" as though it were some kind of fucking CULTURAL PHENOMENON Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 19:46, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
Jessi Slaughter is so puddi. Kitty Purry LOLOLOLOLOL! MegaPleb Dexter111344 Complain here 19:48, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
Factually relating that an eleven year old girl was obnoxious and lots of people were mean to her is totally the best possible use of a wiki and totally not both redundant and inferior to the dozens of news stories about the staggeringly unimportant incident!! Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 19:51, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, yes. I was clicking onto a Hyperlink from there one time, and it linked me to a page which was Saying "Find hot fucks in Liverpool for free". Even though:

1) I don't live in fucking Liverpool

2) It genuinely shown an image of one of the "Hot chicks" being :File:Pieeater.jpg.

I Guess I was warned when the link said "Wakachan". Like what? . - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 19:51, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and what about the other 60 million passers by? Huh?? - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 19:55, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Why the hell did you move my reply to Dexter? Did you think I was talking about ED? Tinymasaru.gifpillow talk 19:59, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Erm..... Yes I did. Sorry. It's just that like Illogicopedia is the Website equivalent of France. So easy to mock..... - Barn-owl LOL vandalz 20:02, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Faking Wikipedias skin instead of really switching to vector ....

Sorry for bringing this thread back from the dead (and sorry for my poor english in advance).
Porting all of Uncyclopedias modifications over to the real vector skin would be lots of work (in our wiki we switched a year ago, and haven't been able to port everything because of lacking manpower).

An alternative (the german Uncyclopedia currently uses) would be to fake Wikipedias current look.

I put de.uncyclopedias CSS here, and if you would copy that over to MediaWiki:Common.css Uncyclopedia would look like this --Nachteule 00:39, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah? If we switch you over to a really good looking woman you could suck me. Wikipedia has a boring blue look and you have to go all the way to the top to search. And what's that huge space between the two things on the top bar? What is that space? Keep the search in the middle, and be happy all the days of your life. Aleister 00:47 26-5-'11
I'm gay, and if your cock is nice, just close your eyes and I can suck you off right away. If not, just use your hand as always ;) --Nachteule 00:57, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
I think we can all agree this was the best possible reply.  Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize  writings  SU&W) 01:32 May 26, 2011
I bow to Mr. Nachteule, who is my new fantasy and role model. To be more serious, I for three have the exact problems with the wikipedia skin that I mention. Putting the search box on top seems counter-productive, and what is that large open space in the top "menu". Not to mention again the pale blue look of the page which tends to subdue the reader and put them to sleep. Yummy "Al" Aleister 1:39 26-5-'11
Redesigning those tabs is like your giant magic wand ... a pain in the ass. Wikipedia split those tabs (left are viewing page & talk and right all the "action" tabs followed by search). I put that space in there to follow that seperation (viewing/ action), but it's just CSS and can simply be changed to no giant space between those tabs
"search on top" makes sense (if we want to parody Wikipedia) because they have it there (and people in general are getting used to look up there for site-search)
By the way, most Uncyclopedia visitors don't even know this site has a search, because those dumbfucks are too stupid to properly install software and and up like this ;)
That pale look mimics Wikipedias pale look, that's why it's pale. But again, it's only CSS so we can give it a touch of pink if you like :) --Nachteule 02:04, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

The look can be faked a lot more effectively than that - I said this before, but again, see Inciclopedia, for an example. I was working on a sporked skin from there, though, trying to get it more similar to proper vector appearance whilst being at least somewhat cross-browser and OS compatible (css3, at any rate), but I don't actually recall what I did with it. But, er... if we want to make it look like vector, we should do it right, no? Actually make it look like vector. And such. Although someone should really fix the addPortLetLinks thing... *wanders off, mumbling* 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 04:01, 26 May 2011

I strongly support switching to Wikipedia's vector skin, as unlike Aleister in Chains, I find it to be far superior to our skin. The bigger, blue tabs look way better than the drab, tiny tabs we have on our skin, and the search bar is far more conspicuous when placed at the top. Thanks for bringing this up, Hyperbole. Heck, I'll oversee the transition if it comes to that (or take orders from the admin who oversees the transition, you get what I mean!) --Scofield & Dudes 10:20, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Great. You can start by making this work with webkit. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 10:44, 27 May 2011
Aside from bigger tabs taking up more room, my eyes were opened when Nachteule pointed out that people are used to seeing the "Search" field on top and many may not even know we have a search field. Our readers are morons, of course, so it is a good point. I prefer the side search, but will modify my opinion to include the logic of it all. Aleister 10:57 27-5-'11
Before they killed Monobook, Wikipedia used to have the search box at the top of the sidebar. We can put it there too, by adding * SEARCH right at the top in MediaWiki:Sidebar.
We fixed the auto-suggestion-feature [1] but right now, there often is not enough space for the dropdown menu (for people without biiiig screens). Placing search on top would fix this too. --Nachteule 12:06, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
This is sick. You people are talking about how your skins look like. Big blue tabs... on skin... Sick. Cat the Colourful (Feed me!) Zzz Sleeping Cat 11:21, 27 May, 2011 (UTC)
I will get nightmares. Cat the Colourful (Feed me!) Zzz Sleeping Cat 11:22, 27 May, 2011 (UTC)
That's just fair, that way you'll get a better understanding what it's like reading your pointless comments ;) --Nachteule 12:06, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
Hilarious. Cat the Colourful (Feed me!) Zzz Sleeping Cat 12:18, 27 May, 2011 (UTC) you need Safari to run webkit? --Scofield & Dudes 12:52, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Safari or chrome. Which is funny, because people keep thinking the small monospace is a chrome bug, but it's actually webkit... 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 19:15, 27 May 2011
Okay, so I installed Safari in order to activate webkit, but now I'm lost. --Scofield & Dudes 16:47, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
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