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Why, when we are struggling to keep users in site, do we have a banner encouraging them to go off site?                               Puppy's talk page12:32 01 Sep

IRC is where we can talk with other users in real time. Also trivia is quite fun, and may encourage users to become part of the community if they are enjoying themselves. I for one think its working, because the average numbers on IRC has gone up from about 30 - 35 to about 40. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 23:24, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
while the number of edits on sure is steadily declining.                               Puppy's talk page11:41 01 Sep
IRC is the beating heart of the community. It is the best place to talk with other Uncyclopedians, and is a valuable resource for noobs that need help. Also, RAHB has a ridiculously high score on the trivia, so somebody needs to beat him. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 23:43, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
So it makes sense to have a link in the nav bar. The site banner could be put to better use by encouraging IPs to join, or for users to share the site via social media to attract more user base. Saying to newcomers "welcome, but go to IRC" which is not newcomer friendly is counter productive. And the users that are likely to go to IRC are already there. In short, this has little to no benefit, and has definite detriment to this site.                               Puppy's talk page12:13 02 Sep
Based on the fact that you are not currently on IRC, I am going to politely remind you that you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. The sitenotice telling people to go on IRC isn't meant to be permanent, but it has encourage some of the site regulars to come on IRC more frequently while it has been up. We've also had a few new users come on, and based on the fact that they played trivia with us for quite awhile, I'd say the channel was pretty friendly to them. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 00:27, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
Yes. I for one have seen three or four new users at least in the past few days coming into IRC and asking for help with articles, and with joining and contributing to the community in general. They've been having a good time, getting to know some of the regulars which I'm sure cuts down on the intimidation of joining an established community, and some old users have been coming back and getting help with getting re-acquainted, via the IRC. I have to second ZB's notion that you seem to not know what the fuck you're talking about. -RAHB 00:35, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
I'm in IRC every other day, and here every day. But apparently trying to create a parody encyclopaedia takes back seat to a trivia game.                               Puppy's talk page12:52 02 Sep
You can see it however you'd like, but yes, I think the community is more important than the site. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 01:05, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
I concur. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 01:14, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
Ah, so you're creating a parody website now. Interesting choice of words. -RAHB 01:15, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
Yes. We are creating a parody website. At least that's what I thought we were doing. Of course if this is just a social network, where the common purpose is not the creation of comedic content, then by all means I concur as well. And wonder what happened to us along the way where we lost sight of what we were doing together and what the common link between us all is.                               Puppy's talk page01:30 02 Sep
We are a community that writes comedy for free, relies on non-existent donations, and at our heart is trying to have fun and enjoy ourselves. You make it sound like we're a political party who changed its platform in the midst of being caught up in media exposure. I agree that our article productivity is down. I agree that that's our main purpose. But don't try to make it sound like we're some sort of important entity that has something hinging on the performance of largely a group of teenagers. Join the peace corps if you're so concerned with changing the world. -RAHB 01:38, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
Or whatever the Australian equivalent is, considering I just learned that the Peace Corps is apparently only for Americans. Which is kind of hypocritical if you ask me. -RAHB 01:42, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
I for one believe their is far much more to this site that just writing comedy, their is also the getting to know people that may live thousands on miles from you. Also far too many users believe that the site's success is measured in how many users we get per month and how many new articles get written. Leaving out how much the current users are actually enjoying themselves. Trivia on IRC is a way for many of our current users to enjoy themselves and to make friends with people they would never have met without it. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 01:48, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
Whatever. Of course, the site becoming stagnant is obviously a triviality. The user base dwindling is unimportant. The featuring of new, funny content is merely an aside. As long as we can all chat on IRC then everything is fine. I obviously don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.                               Puppy's talk page02:35 02 Sep
The fact that IRC exists and is used is not what is causing any of that though and I'd really be genuinely curious to see what the equation is you've managed to work out that supports the idea that it is. I don't see why this specific thing has got your panties in such a bundle. -RAHB 02:50, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
You do realize that most users that leave, leave because they have families or are university students who just don't have the time. IRC has nothing to do with it. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 02:59, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
I'm not suggesting IRC is causing any issues in that regard. I just think site banner should be used to promote what is on site. VFH health is low, and new users should be encouraged to edit. Current users who have rollback should be encouraged to patrol edits. We have discussions elsewhere relating to a VFS, and TKFs ideas of cross promotion are again being highlighted on ZB's user page. Regular awards are falling into disuse. VFD is apparently broken. I'm not saying that IRC doesn't have a role, but in terms of priority it's fairly low. Adding IRC to the site banner is just navelism, as far as I can see.                               Puppy's talk page03:01 02 Sep
My point of view is that if everyone from the site was also on IRC we would be experiencing none of these problems. We would all link each other to our works in progress and get live feedback, we would link each other to important votes, we would collaborate more frequently, and we would get to know each other. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 03:17, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
(Deindent) If that's what IRC is doing, great.                               Puppy's talk page03:21 02 Sep
I'm glad you finally understand that hanging out and talking to other community members in real time somehow strengthens our community, after it took Frosty and RAHB and Zombiebaron the maximum indents to communicate that notion. --Littleboyonly TKFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Oldmanonly 11:32, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
You missed the part where I said "If".                               Puppy's talk page11:49 02 Sep
Then I apologize for underestimating your stubborn, misguided ignorance. --Littleboyonly TKFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Oldmanonly 18:44, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
"IRC" is onomatopoeic, like "fart". Don't deny it. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 09:04, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
Exactly like fart. (Is it a hard or a soft 'c'?)                               Puppy's talk page09:14 02 Sep
The user base is a bit like expecting a permanent population living at a train station. Those who stay must be the pigeons. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 19:04, September 3, 2012 (UTC)