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I'm thinking about encouraging myself to stop being stingy and promote a couple of users for working hard. It seems from looking at the Rank page that promotions are not done very often. To ease the task, I'm working on a template to officially promote users. I've asked spike to help me finish it. Questions, comments, or phlegm? Cheers! Zimbuddha Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 05:05, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

The promotion template , such as it is, is working. Anyone who wants to make it prettier or knows how to grab the BASEPAGENAME and the promoters sig and place it in the template, eliminating the need for two of the four parameters passed, is more than welcome to improve it. Please let me know when if you do fix anything, so I can learn how to do it myself. Next step, add this template to the Uncyclopedia:Admin Rank page. Cheers! Zimbuddha Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 14:35, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
Added information to Uncyclopedia:Admin Rank page here. Have I missed anything? Cheers! Zimbuddha Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 14:47, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
Wouldn't many of the regular users already have a rank of captain due to being nominated for adminship? Or, they will get rank of captain when they get nominated on VFS? --Mn-z 04:18, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, if I understand correctly, that is correct. I don't know if it's actually necessary for an admin to officially promote users. Comments? Zimbuddha Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 02:54, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
From my reading of it, it would appear that "userright/VFS nom" levels would take precedence over the right of higher officers to give promotions/demotions. I.e. each useright level would be to a specific group of ranks. Additionally, it appears non-admins who can also promote and demote those below themselves. Basically, the ranks by userright level would be (note that the following list is my personal interpretation):
  • Chronarion is the Lieutenant General for being the site founder. His rank would be for all practical purposes unmovable. It is unclear if the rank of Lt. Gen is reserved for the site founder or not; but either way, since officers can only promote others to rank immediately below themselves, Chronarion could not promote any one else to that Rank. The only persons above Lt. Gen. have either been dead for 110 years or are mythical.
  • Bureaucrats can hold the ranks of either Brigadier or Major General. Only Chronarion, as the sole [actual or possible] Lieutenant general, could promote of Bureaucrat to Major General.
  • Admins can hold the rank of Major, Lieutenant Colonel, or Colonel. Any Bureaucrat could change an admin ranking. Since there are 3 ranks for this userright level, a admin with the rank full Colonel could promote another admin to Lieutenant Colonel.
  • Admin candidates hold the rank of captain. Since there is only only rank for admin candidates, they can not be promoted or demoted.
  • The filthy underclasses Users who have never been nommed for admin can hold the rank of Officer cadet, officer designate, 2nd Lieutenant, or full Lieutenant. A 2nd Lieutenant or higher would have some lower officers he could promote/demote. (An officer designate could in theory change the rank of an officer cadet, but there is no rank the officer cadet could be demoted to.) --Mn-z 00:53, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
Non admins have been demoted in the past by admins including from the rank of Captain. ~Jewriken.GIF 01:02, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
But that logic, a 'crat could demote an admin down to officer candidate. And, there is a chance that those demotions were illegal. --Mn-z 01:15, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
OK. let's clarify that:
  1. Crats can promote and demote all users up to and including Captain. Crats can promote admins up to and including Colonel but they cannot demote an admin below the rank of Major.
  2. Admins can promote and demote all users up to and including Captain.
  3. Users who reach the 3rd stage of VFS will be automatically given the rank of Captain. I say 3rd phase since the original process included nomination only by admins, and as everyone can be nominated now as part of the new (2007?) VFS process, we'll have dozens of Captains, including trolls and joke nominations.

I feel fairly silly now. I think I'll go demote someone. ~Jewriken.GIF 10:49, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

That makes sense. What there is a few more clarifications needed:
  • Can captains or lieutenants promote or demote regular users? (A similar issue would occur with an Colonel admin promoting or demoting Major or Lt. Col admins)
  • More importantly, if Oscar Wilde rises from the dead, could he appoint a 'crat to the rank of Lt. Gen or is that rank reserved for the site founder? --Mn-z 22:32, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
Yes and yes. Zimbuddha Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 01:21, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Trolls and joke nominations

I think trolls and joke nominations should not be given rank of captain, because, at least in my little mind, rank is an symbol that one has paid some dues and put in some time and effort. I do not propose we take rank too seriously, but rather confer is as a token of respect for more than token contribution to the greater good. Zimbuddha Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 15:41, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

What's with all these military titles anyway. Should be 1st Potato, 2nd Potato , Spud and Mash...--LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ® (Orate) 18:45, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
Having been in military service, I find the rank scheme hilarious. Zimbuddha Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 01:19, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
Likewise. I think we need to start the "Uncyclopedia veterans club". ~Jewriken.GIF 13:45, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
Could it be like a military veterans' club with heavily-subsidised alcohol and a run-down room in which old-timers spend all day getting drunk and talking complete bollocks? And if so, how can I join? Rabbi Techno Icons-flag-gb kvetch Icon rabbi Contribs Foxicon FOXES 13:47, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
Um, I think that's called the Village Dump. MrN Icons-flag-gb HalIcon.png WhoreMrn.png Fork you! 13:50, Mar 11
I served in the military and lost all four of my limbs, I don't find this rank parody funny in the slightest. --nldr 13:51, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
How are you typing this now? Oh, you clever dick you. MrN Icons-flag-gb HalIcon.png WhoreMrn.png Fork you! 13:52, Mar 11
MrN scores ten points! Rabbi Techno Icons-flag-gb kvetch Icon rabbi Contribs Foxicon FOXES 13:54, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
I operate the keyboard using my nose. --nldr 13:56, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
LIAR! You told me you lost it in the Ardens! ~Jewriken.GIF 14:30, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
He's got a wireless keyboard. Obviously. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 17:21, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

I say we open an officers club in Amsterdam, zoned in a marijuana-friendly district. Some of us shouldn't drink alcohol due to medication regimes, but are content to smoke weed as a social lubricant instead. We'll have to make sure the ventilation is such that non-smokers wouldn't be forced to inhale. Some people actually have what one might call an allergic reaction to the smoke. In any case, no party should be unserved, and I refuse to be unhigh, if I want to be. Cheers! Zimbuddha Rev. Zim (Talk) Get saved! 18:41, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

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