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PuppyOnTheRadio informs Admins of a new Special:Community, which Wikia's Kirkburn touts. I replied that "I like this as little as I like the phony welcomes of newbies that Wikia used to forge my name to. A previous generation of Admins wrote Uncyclopedia:At A Glance and it does the job better."

I also said, "Identifying recently viewed articles and suggesting that every unwashed newbie 'ensure that it is up to our standards' is an invitation for cruft," because newbies who are familiar enough with Wikia to call up Special:Community might still not be familiar enough with Uncyclopedia to know what not to type, such as randomness, travel blogs about favorite pubs, jokes about classmates, or simple untruth.

Puppy seemed to concur, when he replied: "My concern is statements like '…with this information now in a consistent location on every community…' Uncyc has the appeal of non-conformity. While a consistent location is fine, consistent (non-customisable) layout, cookie-cutter pages don't show a community that is creating its own mark. Just more of the same."

Everyone: Shall I ask Wikia to make Special:Community link to Uncyclopedia:At A Glance rather than the generic Wikia display? Spıke Radiomicrophone15:45 1-Jul-16

At a glance does the job and advertising our wares is what the front page is for, but we should keep the page under a different guise perhaps. Trending articles may prove to be useful information, because it provides a good idea where to focus on a bit of improving/weeding out cruft, as well as getting a feel for what people are wanting to read — which unsurprisingly seems linked with current affairs at the minute. Perhaps there are more hits on Star Wars articles when a new film is opening... will having this insight mean we can tailor a bit more for the readership and increase traffic? Do we keep the page under a different name and change it around to our own style?
Invitation of cruft is a big problem as the top ranking articles are not about finding Dory, but making fish-food of Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson. Is there an argument that a list of trending articles will increase page views for that article, and will that not lead to increased general browsing? Does it deserve a place in the left sidebar, perhaps under toolbox or a link on At A Glance? The list of new contributors would be a nice touch for the main page perhaps.  EStop Easy button 07:22, July 2, 2016 (UTC)
I had these discussions back in 2013 with Wikia when I saw them in San Francisco. Uncyclopedia is the cuckoo in the Wikia nest, a bird that doesn't play by the rules and shouldn't be used to advertise 'trending' articles. I said we're a herd of cats and don't write funny to order. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:52, July 8, 2016 (UTC)
Okay, that is a good point.  EStop Easy button 09:35, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

I did file a ticket with Wikia asking Special:Community to be redirected in our case to At A Glance. George Marbulcanti responded, and I copied active Admins who are active. George seemed to regard this redirect as something that it would cost Wikia engineers time to maintain. He said that Special:Community will be reworked soon and we will be given a small rectangle in which to express our unique creativity. (If we express too much of it, it will grow scrollbars.)

I filed a different ticket about the fact that Special:UserLogin now redirects to a Wikia Community login page which, incidentally, does not work at all on my browser. I got a scolding to change browsers (which might require changing operating systems and changing computers, and would certainly discard the customizing I have done) for the privilege of continuing to provide Wikia skilled technical editing for free.

In short, in both cases, Wikia's community liaison responded by merely supplying the rationale for the corporate line. If the exodus of talent that happened in 2013 over the issue of soft porn had not happened, it would be happening now. Spıke Radiomicrophone18:41 8-Jul-16

Well nothing is perfect. What steam powered browser are you using btw? :)? --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 23:16, July 8, 2016 (UTC)
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