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Any and all comments about ads may be removed for being completely off-topic, because certain people can't get it through their thick skulls that this is about the domain name. Please. Get it through your thick skulls.
Recommended prior reading, maybe?: Forum:Uncyclopedia domain name, Forum:Uncyclopedia: An Essay On Uncyclopedia by RAHB,'Forum:Decisions Time Folks - Let's Be Organized for a Change/Archive Forum:An open letter to the Cabal, Forum:Count to a million'

Following the chaos of the last few days, I think our biggest problem as a community is that we almost never make conscious decisions. We tend to spiral down into Drama lane pretty quick and in the end of the day we end up with what we had in the last week. And this last week, in my view, didn't really get us anywhere.

The way it looks to me at the moment, for the first time really, we are about to lose the place. No humor for you. Come back, two years.

So for once, just once, let's not try to discuss things properly, make a decision and go along with our lives. Either way, we can't remain in our current position of a semi-striking pouting community. This doesn't help.

The way I see it we have these options:

  1. Form a group to do serious negotiations with Wikia, via phone via meetings via whatever - not via posts through the dump. No more than 3-4 people who can represent us. If that option is going down we can do a quick vote to decide who these will be. What do we want out of these negotiations? First - no ads. Second - the wikipedia look alike will remain as a given, no reskin and such. Third - in the future changes will be discussed with us before implementing them, not dropped on our heads. I hope that in the end of the day wikia will understand that without a community there will be no Uncyclopedia and perhaps be more willing to cooperate if we actually try to talk with them face to face.
  2. Accept the fact the URL thing is done and over with and we can get on with our lives. If and when wikia place ads on the site we will check our options again.
  3. Seriously start looking for a new hosting partner. Again, we'll need to discuss this with Wikia to allow us a migration of the database and perhaps our URL. But we need to understand that this will involve costs. Are people here willing to contribute money? That needs to be checked. Will also need someone to run this project, with some technical abilities. Possibly Olipro (when he's not busy molesting someone) or Spang (when he's not busy running around in his kilt) or whoever deemed right for this. On a personal note, I'd advise against moving under CarlB, since we'll just moving ourselves again into a position of someone controlling the domain without us having a say in it. And CarlB hasn't really been a member of this site for over two years now.

Whatever we decide we cannot continue with the current route we're taking. This has been my home for over two and a half years now, I've got some genuine friends from it, in real life as well, and at the moment we're burning it down with our own hands.

Let's make a decision for once - but for god's sakes - NO DRAMA!!!!

Also, RAHB, you don't need to discuss your penis, just this once.

I'm placing my options for vote - if anyone has any other ideas, please put them as well.

Thanks. ~Jewriken.GIF 10:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

RAHB's penis aside, the way I see it we have three choices:
  1. Put up with the current situation, put up with the exodus of active members of the community and see what happens.
  2. Form a group to deal with Wikia and negotiate a move to seperate hosting. For this we need to know exactly the costs involved (enough people are happy to pay them so that isn't an issue)
  3. Find out a costing from Wikia for the hosting and pay it (that way Wikia make something from the website and we can return control to the community, including having our domain back.
There may be other options, but we need to know what it valid and let the people decide their own future. -- Sir Mhaille Icons-flag-gb (talk to me)
A few observations: First, Wikia did talk to us, through Sannse, for several days before they implemented the domain name change. It was not negotiation per se, but they did try to speak to our concerns and they did address our suggestions. Second, as far as I know Wikia has NOT advocated a reskin or the placement of their ads on Uncyc. As far as I know -- and I may be missing something -- these are hypothetical threats. Hasty action is therefore not called for. Considered, logical evaluation is appropriate. But lets not shout fire when we only guess that there is a possibility of smoke at some future time. ----OEJ 17:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm tempted to put this at the top of the forum inside eight big tags and a "blink" template, but I'll settle for centered bold down here:

This is about a domain name, not ads.

Previous archived discussion posted Fhere, for further detials plaese read this before posting.

Brief Update

I'd just like to take the time to inform the wider community that we are working on several options which we will post within the Forum once all the i's are dotted and t's crossed. I'd like to thank everyone who is contibuting behind the scenes to give this site and its community choices on the direction it will take in the future, but ultimately it is down to YOU. As our friends at ?pedia have already shown a site isn't its hosting or who owns the domain name, it is about the people who put the time, effort and talent into making something greater than the sum of its parts. With my dealings with members of the Uncyclopedia community over the last few weeks I have seen very clearly what a special group of people that we have here. The desire to find a secure and stable long term solution for Uncyclopedia is key to what we are hoping to achieve and once again I'd like to thank everyone who is helping in this aim. -- Sir Mhaille Icons-flag-gb (talk to me)

Here, here. I would like to thank the Chosen Ones for working on behalf of our community, keeping things above board, chin up - and all that. Its easy to point ones fingers at others and say, "here, you go fix this" and then standing around waiting for the perfect solution to our own needs to magically appear. Well, suffice it say, all this is taking a great deal of work. So guys, on behalf of Me, Myself and I, we thank you for the effort that you are spending on us. With hugs, hugs, and more hugs, Dame PPsigPPlips.gifGUN PotY WotM 2xPotM 17xVFH VFP Poo PMS •YAP• 13:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Does it mean that we get free booze and cheap women as a show of gratitude? ~Jewriken.GIF 13:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Not quite, but we're working on getting some cheap booze and free women. And by "working on" I mean "desperately wishing for". -RAHB 15:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I was hoping that there would be a few good looking straight men thrown in for moi?? If not, choclate works too. Dame PPsigPPlips.gifGUN PotY WotM 2xPotM 17xVFH VFP Poo PMS •YAP• 21:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Straight chocolate men? Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 21:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Cheers for the update Mhaille. I think the general consensus is that the domain move was an inconvenience, not really a major thing, but a selection of the community feel very strongly about it. I personally think that W*kia's essential aims are noble but their vision is being clouded by money, leading to a bit of community alienation. I have a lot of respect for the guys at W*kia but I suppose I'm always going to have a chip on my shoulder about them based on my experience with Illogicopedia where there's a collective disgust.
With Uncyclopedia, I'd personally love for it to go independent again as it was when I first found it. Not up to me though, and I'm sure you guys are doing a brilliant job negotiating with Our Great Overlords.
Oh, and I think choccies are due all round. Save me a Kit Kat or something. -- Hindleyite Converse 23:08, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

One Kit Cat. Please assemble carefully according to instructions

Seems a strange request, but there you go... --UU - natter UU Manhole 09:25, Nov 26
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