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I feel like we are missing out on all of the problems that Reddit is having because of Ellen Pao. Spike reverted my Minitrue suggestion to make an UnNews article about it stating we don't want punters to write about politics of other websites. Is writing about Ellen Pao and her ethics violations at Reddit a taboo topic? Wikipedia locked down her article, anyone who tries to post about it in certain subreddits get downvoted. There is something fishy going on about her and she seems to be protected from criticism. The Community at Reddit is being attacked and the same thing happened to Digg and Slashdot. Ethics violations is what is destroying the tech industry and corporations in general. There are a lot of questions and nobody has the answers for them. They are blaming Gamergate for attacks on Pao, but the Gamergate subreddit doesn't even mention Pao. All I saw on Wikipedia were people citing news articles about Pao having links to her husband's Ponzi scheme deleted, an employee with Leukemia being fired, Victoria who did the AMA verification being fired, a big revolt in Reddit making popular subreddits private in protest, etc. We currently don't have an Ellen Pao article, should we write one or is what happens on other websites not allowed to be written about here? Rather than me making an article about it, I thought it best to be wise and write here and see what others thought. If there really are Gamergate trolls trying to vandalize her article, then writing one here might attract them here, and I don't want that. How can we write about the situation and be funny without attracting trouble? Orion Blastar (talk) 02:23, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

This is a humor website. Write funny stuff. Don't write about someone's "ethics violations" or fishy things or criticise her because "she seems to be protected from criticism" elsewhere. Don't use this website as a staging area for the politics of other websites. If you can write about Ellen Pao and be funny and not take sides (reading the above, it doesn't seem so) or even seem to be taking sides, go wild. Spıke Radiomicrophone02:44 7-Jul-15
It is kind of hard not to take a side in it. I've seen startups go out of business due to stuff like this. For example MySpace used to be big, until it too got a new CEO who did the same things as Pao and ruined it. People seem to think that Facebook was the first social network and they forget about Myspace and Friendster and others who started out big and then got a new CEO who ran it into the ground. I'm trying to think about funny stuff without taking a side in it, but it is damned hard to do. Maybe I am better off not writing it because even if I don't take a side and make it funny, someone will edit it and take a side. Orion Blastar (talk) 03:16, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
I had seen something of this story. It is one of those niche interest stories in my view, difficult to find a funny angle in there as yet but one may arrive. --LaurelsRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 07:49, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
I agree there is nothing funny about the controversies, and it is business as usual with the typical American tyrant managers in charge. This is the end of an era in the USA and we're going to see another Dotcom bubble crash because of it. Like Spike said the same thing happened to Sears and Radio Shack. I was fired before for no good reason and lost many good paying jobs in the past. I heard this management style happened in the 1970s and exists to keep shareholders to maximize their value at the cost to the consumer and users of the products. Orion Blastar (talk) 22:54, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your understanding ("even if I don't take a side...someone will"). I have war stories of corporate mismanagement, and tales of ill-advised Wikia decisions are legend here; but you seem to be grinding an axe rather than contemplating amusing the reader. By the way, people also forget that Montgomery Ward and Sears were retailing powerhouses and RadioShack was the go-to place for answers to electronic questions until management at the latter two decided that squeezing customers into disclosing personal information was more lucrative. Also, you don't stay on top just by failing to run a business into the ground; you must also hustle better than the newest kid on the block (or, these days, collude with government). Spıke Radiomicrophone09:49 7-Jul-15
I had considered making it Pro-Pao the way we did it for George W. Bush at a time. Blaming everything on Gamergate, but that would stir stuff up as well. Orion Blastar (talk) 22:44, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
See my recommendations at CoW#Extremists on Poe's Law and avoiding the impression of advocacy. The only way to approach this is to make it so unrelated to reality (such as Ellen Pao as the inventor of the Kung Pao dish) that it can't stir anything up. Separately, it may amaze you but successful management does not disparage or disrespect the customer, quite the opposite. In fact, McDonald's (pamphlets on the corporate Rain Forest Policy in the stores) and Walmart (kowtowing to activists as though every cake decoration reflects a board-room decision) are putting other "stakeholders" ahead of the customer and might be seeing the beginning of the end. Spıke Radiomicrophone03:18 8-Jul-15

Looks like she resigned. This is a non-issue now. Got over 200,000 signatures on a petition. Orion Blastar (talk) 02:06, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

And one of 'em was mine! 03:52, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry I brought it up, it appears the board of directors did things Pao was blamed for. Reddit is going to take a big change and do a lot of bad things without Pao. No longer about free speech some subreddits and users will go. I guess that is why we shouldn't talk about politics of other websites, they blamed everything on Pao and made the public believe she was behind everything, but she was only a puppet for them. Orion Blastar (talk) 03:44, July 16, 2015 (UTC)