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Friends, Romans, countrymen...lend me your ears:

Seems our HowTo:, Why?:, UnBooks: and UnScripts: namespaces are...pretenders. They're not actual namespaces. They're just treated as such by convention. This means they are harder to maintain, and also are not directly searchable (y'know, on the search page. Go on, have a look. I'll wait. Do you see "Why?:" listed as a searchable namespace? No? Told you, didn't I. You never listen.)

But more importantly...the logos. My Internet "rides the short bus", so to speak. It's very very slow. So I have JavaScript turned off. Unfortunately, those faux-namespaces have their fancy-pantsy logos applied with JavaScript hacks. All I get to look at is the god-damned potato, instead of the Fantsy-Pantsy logos! Somebody worked very hard on those logos! This is highly irregular! I want to SEE those logos!

Fortunately, I'm told there's a solution: I come here, I bitch and whine about how HowTo:, Why?: UnBooks: and UnScripts: should be promoted to REAL namespaces, you good people vote "Yea"[1][2], a "community consensus" is formed, and at some point in the near future, a person from Wikia drops by and gives us our real namespaces with the click of her mouse.

WHAT SAY YOU?  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usSat, Oct 15 '11 6:17 (UTC)

SHALL THE FOLLOWING BE MADE INTO ACTUAL NAMESPACES???

Score: +13 people voting "FOR"
  • Symbol for vote For.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usSat, Oct 15 '11 6:17 (UTC)
  • And the other ones: UnPoetia, Unquotable, UnDebate, and UnReviews... especially UnDebate; there may be relatively few of them at present, but the formatting and setup there is just weird, and having namespace-specific stuff could potentially make the entire thing a lot easier to deal with, including what it takes to make new ones. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 01:21, 16 October 2011
  • Symbol for vote For. I agree. You have a way with words.--Iwillkillyou 333 TALK What's it like to be a heretic? 01:26, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
  • Yep ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) Icons-flag-au 01:57, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote You have a convincing argument --Evildemon PLEB SIR Lollipop (TALK) - updated on 16 October 2011, at 02:02
  • I guess so. -RAHB 08:22, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote Sure. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 08:25, 16 October 2011
  • Symbol for vote Meow. Because of Bizzeebeever, we cats can now finally talk. And thanks to that, I now support whatever he do 100 percent surely. This poll has something to do with racism right? OMG!!! It`s Cat the Colourful, Jesus Christ!!! 09:32 16 October 2011
  • Im just not sure. What exactly is in it for me? --ShabiDOO 09:59, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
    Cake. And lots of it too. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 10:39, 16 October 2011
    Not cake. Cold, hard cash. Also, people won't joke ban you anymore, Shabs.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usSun, Oct 16 '11 10:51 (UTC)
    Hmmm...are we talking about enough money to make a planet sized ghetto blaster? --ShabiDOO 06:04, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
    Can we just compromise on "moon-sized". Short of funds, here.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usWed, Oct 19 '11 7:04 (UTC)
    Umm...ojay...a moon sized ghetto blaster and a gold chain and reeboks the size of africa? --ShabiDOO 23:40, October 20, 2011 (UTC)
    Ok, how's this: a moon-sized ghetto blaster and a pimp cane. Final offer.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usFri, Oct 21 '11 6:55 (UTC)
    All I want is some cake, dammit. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 08:16, 26 October 2011
  • For. Bizzeebeever for President 2012. Snowflake mini Mattsnow 11:04, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. I like the idea of UnDebate and UnReviews. Meh on UnQuotable - too listy.--DRStrangesig5 Sherman Fingertalk  13:37, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
  • For Although we may as well just give them each their own wiki. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 03:35, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
    Actually, that would be optimal... if we had the userbase and interest to pull it off, which we especially don't these days. >.< Unless you know something I don't... which you probably do. What do you know? o_O 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 05:16, 19 October 2011
    Whoa, whoa, whoa. Any more of this talk about turning 500 or so articles into "new wikis" and I'm officially withdrawing my support. Them namespaces would be fine as namespaces, until Uncyclopedia actually turns into Wikipedia.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usWed, Oct 19 '11 5:29 (UTC)
    Isn't it? Wait, if it is, then I'm sockpuppetting again. Crap. *makes a hasty exit* 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:18, 19 October 2011
  • Symbol against vote Against. All of that shit is just ordinary articles with words in front of a colon. Inebriated 06:30, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
    I see you didn't read the footnote, Hyp...I mean, Inebriated.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usWed, Oct 19 '11 7:01 (UTC)
    Now, now... play nice, mon. The entire point of a vote is to be a dick in votes[3], not in comments to votes. But for that, there do need to be opposing votes. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 16:18, 19 October 2011
    I see you didn't read the second footnote, mon. ; ) Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 23:50, 20 October 2011
    It's hard to read things when they're not there. Still doesn't change the fact that acting on such a thing, joke or otherwise, ain't nice, however. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 00:09, 21 October 2011
  • Symbol for vote For. I read the footnote. --EpicAwesomeness (talk) 15:43, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote I agree with Lyrithya. --Tophat headless 04:00, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote I want an Earth-sized Moon![4] GiratinaOriginForme |Si Plebius Dato' (Sir) Joe ang Man on Fire CUN|IC Kill 800px-Flag of the Philippines svg | 10:38, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
  • Symbol for vote For. I thought they were namespaces. Maybe I don't understand, but I agree to most things I don't understand, like gravity and stuff. Aleister 18:08 1-12-'11

  1. If you don't want to vote "yes", then just fuck off RIGHT NOW, because if you vote "no", I'll kill your family and make you watch. And then I'll cut off your balls.
  2. P.S. For those unable to tell the difference, the preceding footnote was a joke.
  3. See the rules.
  4. On condition this becomes mainspace.

Ok, now what?

A +11 vote. Woo-hoo. Can we have our namespaces already?  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usWed, Nov 2 '11 4:32 (UTC)

OK, I'll do it... Errr, is it complicated? Snowflake mini Mattsnow 04:59, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
Send Wikia a contact requesting it and link here to show the support the community has for it. What little community there is, anyway. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 05:11, 2 November 2011
Link?  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usWed, Nov 2 '11 5:23 (UTC)
It's at the bottom of every page. It says, 'Contact Wikia'. 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 05:24, 2 November 2011
For the love of GOD, could you help a motherfucker out and...just link me to it HERE? I...I...can't reach that other link.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usWed, Nov 2 '11 5:33 (UTC)
Special:Contact -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 05:42, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
See? Now that's how you help a motherfucker out. Thank you, sir.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usWed, Nov 2 '11 6:02 (UTC)

He called me a bloke

But that's not the biggest problem... the biggest problem (OK, the second biggest, don't go there.) is that I can't make new namespaces if there are pages already in that space. So if I create "HowTo:", all current pages with the prefix will go "poof".

So, the pages need to be moved to "NotHowTo:" or something, then I can create the namespace, and then you can move them back. Anyone got a bot? -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 19:21, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Probably. *eyes Lyrithya* So, by "go poof" you mean the pages just magically disappear, right? What's the process behind that, if I may ask? Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 19:50, 3 November 2011
Crikey! And it's not just howTo, either... how many pages are we looking at moving, here?  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usThu, Nov 3 '11 20:10 (UTC)
Asked and answered: looks like around 1500 pages. Dear god. complete list here, although I will NOT guarantee its completeness or its accuracy.
Well, if anybody's going to do this, I recommend using the same prefix (such as UnMaintenance:) for every page, to make it easier for the move back.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usThu, Nov 3 '11 20:34 (UTC)
(stumbles in, dazed from NaNoWriMo) Did someone say bot? Draw up some very specific directions and I'll code one for ya. Almost guaranteed not to break anything!  Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize  writings  formspring) 21:06 Nov 03, 2011

From what I understand, the pages don't go poof; they just aren't accessible because the database is referring to them wrong afterwards. But the thing that gave me that impression also gave me the impression that there is a command to namespacify the pages directly. It just requires server access, or something (because apparently making it do that automatically is lower on the list of mediawiki priorities than making images rotatable). But don't any of you have server access? Or would that not work with your configuration anyway? Or am I mixing all of this up with something else entirely? Are you going to eat that? 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 02:50, 4 November 2011

I'm fairly certain Wikia staff don't directly access the server and instead use weird and obscure extensions to do simple things, for whatever reason. Maybe people like having a GUI for comfort reasons.  Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize  writings  formspring) 03:15 Nov 04, 2011
What the hell happened to this place? Where are the dozens of forum edits per day? I keep checking back to nothing at all.  Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize  writings  formspring) 00:41 Nov 06, 2011
The forums just weren't the same without you, Skully. Sir SockySexy girls Mermaid with dolphin Tired Marilyn Monroe (talk) (stalk)Magnemite Icons-flag-be GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 02:06, 6 November 2011

So...I guess this topic was murdered to death by laziness?

Do I use the rug to sweep this under the broom, or the broom to sweep this under the rug? I can't remember.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usWed, Nov 9 '11 2:53 (UTC)

Perhaps it was....MURDERED BY DEATH! -RAHB 03:28, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
Is Wikia death? 1234 ~ 16px-Pointy 03:52, 10 November 2011
See folks? This is why we can't have nice things.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usThu, Nov 10 '11 7:57 (UTC)

So...

Apparently I wasn't clear. I'm ready and willing to make the namespaces as soon as someone has botted the pages out of the way. tell me when you are ready. Thanks -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 20:22, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

So after various grumblings at and by me, ZombieBaron and Lyrithya... I blackmailed a techy in to doing it instead. Let me know via the contact form of problems please -- sannse@Wikia (talk) 01:06, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
Thank you sannse. -- Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 05:33, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hurray!

We haz namespaces! Thank you Sannse, Lyrithya, Zombiebaron, and everyone who voeted. (Oh, and also Skizzerz. You know why.) Now, go forth and enjoy your new namespaces by...uh...um...uhhhhh......

Lyrithya, wanna help me out here? I'm lost.  ~ BB ~ (T) Icons-flag-usThu, Dec 1 '11 13:26 (UTC)

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